Obervations on "Naturals"

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Fri, 10/10/2014 - 08:12

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Three things in common to ALL of them:

Horny -- these guys either have above-average sex drives or are unable to suppress it. You can see it in their behavior if they haven't gotten any in a week--irritable, restless, looking for a fight.

Screening for DTF/Available -- they've learned to pick up on the signals given off by horny girls who are into them. The girls who come here to get dick and are self-aware of that fact. They can read body language, and they know that if a girl is responding to texts and wants to meet up that she's prob DTF. Some of the guys screw up either figuring out logistics, leading, or overcoming LMR (and they don't know why or how).

Confident/Comfortable cold-approaching: can walk up to strangers and make friends. Not afraid of girls. A few of them need some alcohol in them to loosen up first, and some of them still feel the need to lie to girls, but from the girls' perspective they are fun, confident dudes.

Other things that most have in common, but not shared by ALL--

Process/Routine:

Meet the girl --> Get number --> meet up at club/after club --> pull from club

Meet girl --> go to bar and spend money on drinks--> pull to hotel or car and sometimes home

There's one I know who's too young to drink, and he gets someone else to buy them booze and then eventually pulls to his car or a friend's house.

Quality:

Most naturals don't seem to give a fuck about quality. They're horny, and she's not hideous, so why not. I know two who do have high standards or a specific look they want, and they know how to get it. Of the other guys, one in particular has fucked 9s, but will also fuck a fat 3 if she's all that's available.

Winging:

In my experience they don't know how to or don't want to wing. Generally selfish and as long as things are going well for them they don't care about you. The best one I know is a total narcissist.

Social circle:

Some of them get girls from girls they already know. Fuck their way through her groups of friends.

Hard Screening for DTF:

Some screen by a girl's responsiveness and compliance. Others straight up ask up front: approach strong and find out within the first 2 mins if the girl is DTF. "Do you wanna fuck?"

Getting $ and other gifts from women:

Two of them who "shape their own reality" through application of their own standards were simultaneously male exotic dancers and drug dealers in the past.

They got so used to women trying to seduce them and begging them to hang out that they have zero patience for girls who "want to play games." If the girl isn't immediately responsive, they end the interaction. Examples of standards, and being open about desires: girls paying their bills, buying them clothes, watches, shoes, paying for trips. The one guy would tell women, "I have these bills, which one are you paying?" Or "I need a new suit."

Another guy has been "tipped" almost $1000 by a MILF, and then, at a later date, that MILF referred her friend to him and he banged the friend who also tipped him.

Escorts/Prostitutes:

Some will even pay for sex from time to time when they are especially horny and there isn't a readily available girl. The one said he does it because of the feeling of "owning" her. The others do it out of expediency or because they're in a country where its cheap and semi-legal.

The Butthurt:

When things don't go well, they get emotional. If they bring the wrong energy to an interaction and the girl blows them off, they'll tell the girl to go fuck herself or tell her she's ugly.

And they're totally clueless when they've moved things further along, but they don't bang. They can't differentiate between girls who are along for the ride and ones who are actually wanting a deep dicking.

Terrible with LMR. They'll try several times like a bull in a china shop, aggressively going for it. And if it doesn't work out they don't see that they sold the girl the boyfriend fantasy so she chose to make him wait like she would a bf, or that he said or did something that made her afraid of judgment.

Drugs:

Many of them sell or have sold drugs in the past, and are aware of the power of telling the girls they have coke/weed and inviting them to partake. Coke seems to be the most effective.

Fri, 10/10/2014 - 09:47

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Lul.

Lul.

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Sun, 10/12/2014 - 06:20

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This is almost exactly my

This is almost exactly my experience too. One of my natural friends said almost verbatim what you just wrote, "If I don't get laid in a while I start going crazy." They will fuck just about anything, but they also bang some REALLY hot girls too.

Funny story about that... he pulled this 40-something year old cougar one time. At the time I was crashing on his futon. Another friend was crashed on the floor in the living room. This cougar had this stupid crazy chihuahua that she brought with her. I was asleep and was woken up by a strange noise and I look over and this chihuahua is humping my friends face in his sleep.

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Sun, 10/12/2014 - 06:31

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But yeah, naturals are very

But yeah, naturals are very opportunistic and predatory by nature. To the point were they can be a huge pain in the ass sometimes.

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Tue, 10/14/2014 - 01:14

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Thats,

Thats, describing me completely, except from the Drug Part, but who knows what i am gonna do in the future.Selling drugs might be a good idea after all, haha ;)

Tue, 10/14/2014 - 04:32

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I'm just wondering about

I'm just wondering about this, but Trt you said you are a "natural" and you asked how normal guys get all haywire...

One of the things I've noticed is a lot of naturals had some chaos in their childhoods. My one friend, I've known since I was 12, and he only ever once mentioned his childhood. He was talking about the scars where his mom and her boyfriend put cigarettes out on his back.

I'm just speculating, but I think that may instill in them a distrust... Like there's a lack of parental support and they realize at an early age that they have to rely on themselves, not authority figures or society. With the naturals I know, there is almost this closed off, defensive, ego shell. For them it's kindof a double-edged sword, because on one hand it makes them social badasses, but on the other they don't know how to connect. Basically, they attract people like flies, but tend to drive them away just as fast.

On the flipside, I think "normal guys aka chodes" are slaves to social conditioning. They're sorta like programmed robots. Super predictable and they hate unpredictability. As kids they were raised in relatively stable environments and "following the rules" was the means to success, IE "be a good boy, do as you're told, don't raise your voice." Which carries on to adulthood as, "Go to school, get a good job, get married, have kids, retire" paradigm. They're constantly following the social rules. Which is why they get pissed, for example, at women/other men for NOT following the rules. There's this social reward/punishment system in place for following the rules and being a "good boy." Don't believe me? Try talking about "game" on Facebook and see what happens... Just prepare yourself for the Axes and Pitchforks.

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Tue, 10/14/2014 - 04:58

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One observation Ive made is

One observation Ive made is that they are almost always undisciplined in all other aspects of their lives. Its almost like they wing everything else, while their subconscious is locked-in on pussy, making it very easy for them to get because every part of their being is helping them do it.

Tue, 10/14/2014 - 05:31

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Interestingly enough I had a

Interestingly enough I had a decently traumatic childhood but I was also raised with a lot of empathy, and started out that way. And I always did damn good in school. I'm an outlier for sure. I get along real well with scumbag "naturals" but was at one point considered a natural myself, even though I think the strict definition is sort of annoying.

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Tue, 10/14/2014 - 05:52

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I know naturals who had

I know naturals who had stable backgrounds and naturals who had fucked up backgrounds. Ones who had stable backgrounds had tended to have more empathy and could relate to people who were "weak" , where as people with backgrounds had more of a you're strong or weak mentality. Small sample size and this is just anecdotes. Just what I've seen.