Persistence Lay Report
Alright boys super excited to be writing this. This experience has defintely been my biggest exploration into game yet!
I met this chick at party a few weeks ago, she's a super hottie with a lot of attitude. One of her friends told me she was into me, and I did not really persue much because I thought she was a whore lol. She caught wind of this and was calling me an asshole. I had a party a few nights later and she called me out for calling her a whore, at that point I kinda flipped the script and called her out for calling me an asshole. It was a fun little battle and shit clicked pretty well from there. I hit her up asap the next day, and got her out for ice cream two says later. Everything went smooth as fuck, gave her a smooch when the date started so the sexual vibe was there. Probably should have escalated at this point, but It did not feel right at the time or maybe I was being a bitch...who knows. Then shit started to crash in on me.
After that date, I would hit her up over text and things would go pretty well until she completely stopped replying. A few days later she would hit me back up. There was just a crazy amount of mood shifts with her, and I tried to punish her a few times for it but that really did not work. At the end of the week I saw her at a party again, and I acted as if nothing had gone down between us. Played it completely casual and cool, ended up having an after party at my house with her and some friends. Long story short, the party got way outta hand so I couldn't spend much time with her. However, she did see me run shit...and that was important. I tried to get her to stay over, but she DD'd a bunch of people so she couldn't. Got a text at like 3 am from her saying she wished she could have stayed over and "cuddled me" all night. It was a big relief and I thought I finally got her attention for good.
Texted the chick some more than following week, she was still acting up. She flaked on me Wednesday, so I called her up and tried to figure out what was up, I started to realize something might be actually bothering her so I tried to introduce some vulnerability into the interaction, wasn't gay because I was the one leading the ship. We planned to go out the next night, and she flaked on me AGAIN!! At this point I blew up her phone, told her that if something is wrong she should let me know if not i'm gonna just leave things alone between us. Finally got her on the phone and I found out that my ex-girlfriend had mutual friends with this girl, they pretty much were all shit talking me telling this chick that I was playing her. What went down at this point was super important. I was unapologetic about the whole situation, I let her know that I did see my ex a few weeks ago and that it was over and that we were not going to argue about it. I told her, "Im sorry you feel the way you do, but we could have had fun tonight." I just started framing everything around FUN and it really flipped her mood.
This was the text exchange at the end of that night:
Her: I think youre really cute and I like hanging out with you I just don't wanna get played
Me: lol nobody wants to get played
Me: Things have a weird way of working out and I can't promise you anything to you but I know we can have a really really good time together (I thought this super chill and in the moment, I remember MW talking about how 'things have a weird way of working out' and it really felt like a calming thing to say to her)
Me: My point is if you like hanging with me then dont ignore me like you dont lol and just fucking hangout :)
Her: :) Well that makes me happy
Me: Yeah thats all Ive been trying to do this whole time :)
Me: so relax a lil bit ill talk to you friday about getting together :)
Her: Sounds good :)
Friday comes along and I hit her up. I invite her out and she throws up ANOTHER obstacle. She brings friends with her. No point in getting butt hurt, i told her that I just wanted to see her and nothing else mattered. We partied and headed back to my place. I didn't let her leave this time cuz she is just an emotional girly in need of leadership. I drove her friends home for her in her car, got back home and immediatly went to my bedroom.
LMR BUSTING:
We got in my room and she says, "Im sleeping in my underwear if thats okay." I'm like fuck yeah thats fine, this is going to be easier than I thought. I stripped down into my boxers and started esclating. Right away she starts saying that we aren't having sex. So I roll over and tell her goodnight. She comes onto me now, and I take my dick out. She will barely touch it. I even mountain climg a bit ;) At this point I told her that I think I'm going to jerk off instead and that Ill be right back to get lotion and my computer. She tries to get some more action out of me, but that panties still won't come off. No big deal, I take my boxers off cuz shes lame and its what I want to do. I sit up and told her that I don't have a condom and she can stop thinking about fucking me. BOOM, panties come off. I then magically make condom appear. She surrenders and says, "I can't believe im doing this right now, I've never done this before." I then insert cock and its go time. Not a very good fuck, not really used to this situation, but that doesn't matter because she understands that I will push the limits and thats enough to turn her on. We chill out for a few more hours, she even teases me saying the sex sucked. I told her that. "the experience was magical because it was with me." She makes fun of me because I didn't bust and says I'm gonna have blue balls, I tell her I'm gonna "wake up and jerk off on her face." LOL. It was an amazingly sexy experience and she was incredibly hot.
First experience with a "bad bitch" and i'm learning a lot. The game doesn't end with this girl. I like it though, it keeps me sharp. I actually respect her push and pulls. She threw a hissy fit the next night because she stalked my tinder and saw that I was active lol. I straight up told her that her fighting about something like that was fucked up, then I sweet talked her a bit and everything was good. I'm really learning that if I take on the lover boy persona I can get away with being dominant and authoritative as fuck when needed.
After this 3 weeks of up and downs with this girl I've learned that the game never ends and that I must fix problems as they arise, because they always will. I can not let a girls emotional roller coaster affect my state. Assuming value and abundance never fails. High maintence girls need solid guys that can be soft and aggressive.
Meow, how many roudns of coaching have you down with MW ?
Meow, how many roudns of coaching have you down with MW ?
1.5
patrick.bateman wrote:
Meow, how many roudns of coaching have you down with MW ?1.5
Nice ! Yeah I think 3 months was the sweet spot for me. Then the forum to keep the knife sharp and address different issues as they come up.
Meow wrote:
patrick.bateman wrote:
Meow, how many roudns of coaching have you down with MW ?1.5
Nice ! Yeah I think 3 months was the sweet spot for me. Then the forum to keep the knife sharp and address different issues as they come up.
Yup I plan on doing some more this summer. Like this whole experience was very next level for me and i'm sure I could have gotten things done quicker and smoother with some training.
Not sure if this is a "thing" but I noticed that logically calling her out didn't work. Like telling her that I know she wants get a reaction out of me is stupid.
Nice man!
Forgot to say, great work dude. This really came together nicely. Sounds like you started to become more grounded in yourself and less reactive. And eventually she surrendered to that. Game is coming on point.
Retarded question, but how many lays do you have now?
Nice man!Forgot to say, great work dude. This really came together nicely. Sounds like you started to become more grounded in yourself and less reactive. And eventually she surrendered to that. Game is coming on point.
Retarded question, but how many lays do you have now?
Only my 2nd bro, I had a girl for the last 6 months. It sounds pathetic but for the longest time I thought I couldn't handle any other girl other than my girlfriend because she really helped me overcome performance anxiety. Made this shit happen after 3 weeks of breaking up with my ex and I was able to actually perform sexually which was great.
Not gonna lie, I am very interested in this girl right now but I feel like my game could really grow within the next few months since I am going to college in the fall. I would love to continue banging this girl without getting tied down but I don't know how that would work. Any thoughts on this? I know you were posting a few months ago about how you regretted getting into a relationship. I'm just not in the right headspace to understand this yet.
patrick.bateman wrote:
Nice man!Forgot to say, great work dude. This really came together nicely. Sounds like you started to become more grounded in yourself and less reactive. And eventually she surrendered to that. Game is coming on point.
Retarded question, but how many lays do you have now?
Only my 2nd bro, I had a girl for the last 6 months. It sounds pathetic but for the longest time I thought I couldn't handle any other girl other than my girlfriend because she really helped me overcome performance anxiety. Made this shit happen after 3 weeks of breaking up with my ex and I was able to actually perform sexually which was great.
Not gonna lie, I am very interested in this girl right now but I feel like my game could really grow within the next few months since I am going to college in the fall. I would love to continue banging this girl without getting tied down but I don't know how that would work. Any thoughts on this? I know you were posting a few months ago about how you regretted getting into a relationship. I'm just not in the right headspace to understand this yet.
Do what you want to do. Go with what feels right. But MW told it to me best... Don't ruin a relationship because you can't see far enough into the future.
If we're honest with ourselves, we're not going to want to only be with this person for the next 1,2,5+ years. So getting into a monogomous relationship is asking for a break up eventually.
And damn, only 2 girls eh? Yeah I had massive performance anxiety. After coaching with MW, immersing in Tolle, and trying to pull bithces without giving a fuck, I conquered it big time. But yeah only 2 girls so your game will change massively when you pump those numbers up.
I've only been with at-least 27 girls.. Maybe 30. It's hard to remember. But yeah, the more sexual experiene you get, the better.
Meow wrote:
patrick.bateman wrote:
Nice man!Forgot to say, great work dude. This really came together nicely. Sounds like you started to become more grounded in yourself and less reactive. And eventually she surrendered to that. Game is coming on point.
Retarded question, but how many lays do you have now?
Only my 2nd bro, I had a girl for the last 6 months. It sounds pathetic but for the longest time I thought I couldn't handle any other girl other than my girlfriend because she really helped me overcome performance anxiety. Made this shit happen after 3 weeks of breaking up with my ex and I was able to actually perform sexually which was great.
Not gonna lie, I am very interested in this girl right now but I feel like my game could really grow within the next few months since I am going to college in the fall. I would love to continue banging this girl without getting tied down but I don't know how that would work. Any thoughts on this? I know you were posting a few months ago about how you regretted getting into a relationship. I'm just not in the right headspace to understand this yet.
Do what you want to do. Go with what feels right. But MW told it to me best... Don't ruin a relationship because you can't see far enough into the future.
If we're honest with ourselves, we're not going to want to only be with this person for the next 1,2,5+ years. So getting into a monogomous relationship is asking for a break up eventually.
And damn, only 2 girls eh? Yeah I had massive performance anxiety. After coaching with MW, immersing in Tolle, and trying to pull bithces without giving a fuck, I conquered it big time. But yeah only 2 girls so your game will change massively when you pump those numbers up.
I've only been with about 27 girls.. Maybe 30. It's hard to remember. But yeah, the more sexual experiene you get, the better.
Damn homie!
Yup I had some serious problems going for awhile. Without MW and the forum I wouldn't even be speaking to girls!
Sounds like you've come a long way. Remember this LR would be way different if you had banged her when you two got ice cream, which is what she wanted. That's exactly why she started flaking on you. Anyway did you ever put your cock in her mouth? I'm sure you could have at least squeezed a puff of smoke out of your balls.
Congrats btw
At this point I told her that I think I'm going to jerk off instead and that Ill be right back to get lotion and my computer.
Deff many ways to handle LMR in this situation, however this method is deff the most Fratty. +10
For real though, good stuff. And remember throughout your development there will be hiccups and lows and people will doubt you. People will judge you based on what you have done, not based on what you have the potential to do. So remember, it is up to you to be THAT person, the person only you know you can be, and make that person visible to everyone.
Keep up the hustle
Great stuff man. I thought you were legitimately to player status then I read how you handled the lmro, LOL. Third place, bruh.
I go in and I'm crisp, clean and my vocals are fucking coming out like music. - Anonymous MW student
- Autismus Terminus Finis (Root Cause/Cure of Autism Epidemic)
- Called Off My Wedding & Other Turn Tail Signs Of The American Male
But everything up to that point was absolutely legit mang. The way you unflinchingly fleshed out the main problem and then the way you handled it, then the texting after. Boom shakalaka
And who knows maybe I'll pull out that "no condom" trick. I pulled something similar on a Playboy model you can guess how THAT ended up, lol.
I go in and I'm crisp, clean and my vocals are fucking coming out like music. - Anonymous MW student
- Autismus Terminus Finis (Root Cause/Cure of Autism Epidemic)
- Called Off My Wedding & Other Turn Tail Signs Of The American Male
But everything up to that point was absolutely legit mang. The way you unflinchingly fleshed out the main problem and then the way you handled it, then the texting after. Boom shakalakaAnd who knows maybe I'll pull out that "no condom" trick. I pulled something similar on a Playboy model you can guess how THAT ended up, lol.
Thanks Dad
The truth is this girl was very sexually dominant and I had a very hard time teasing her and prizing my dick so I went the unorthodox route and pretty much did whatever I could to bang her. I realize now that I could have been a ton more sexual and that woulda worked too. what did you have in mind? I did bite on that booty later in the night lol
She makes fun of me because I didn't bust and says I'm gonna have blue balls, I tell her I'm gonna "wake up and jerk off on her face." LOL.
lol that cracked me up
Manwhore wrote:
But everything up to that point was absolutely legit mang. The way you unflinchingly fleshed out the main problem and then the way you handled it, then the texting after. Boom shakalakaAnd who knows maybe I'll pull out that "no condom" trick. I pulled something similar on a Playboy model you can guess how THAT ended up, lol.
Thanks Dad
The truth is this girl was very sexually dominant and I had a very hard time teasing her and prizing my dick so I went the unorthodox route and pretty much did whatever I could to bang her. I realize now that I could have been a ton more sexual and that woulda worked too. what did you have in mind? I did bite on that booty later in the night lol
LMAO!
I go in and I'm crisp, clean and my vocals are fucking coming out like music. - Anonymous MW student
- Autismus Terminus Finis (Root Cause/Cure of Autism Epidemic)
- Called Off My Wedding & Other Turn Tail Signs Of The American Male
lol so this chick actually flaked on me yesterday! Kinda my fault didn't hit her up early enough and was being a butthurt little pussy. Did truly enjoy things with her and I wonder how I could make it a regular thing without all the emotional craziness.
This text convo goes to show that you can still bang the hottie and lose your frame...THE GAME NEVER FREAKIN ENDS
Called her and her friend picks up and says shes talking with her mom and will call me later, i wait like two hours then text her
Me: alright whats the deal do you want to kick it or no before I go do something else
Her: Are you with people
Me: nah im alone right now you and me are doing something no the whole crew
Her: wait what
Me: you and me are doing somwthing
Me: (name) I need to know soon you took forever to get back to me im either hanging with your or going fishing. The more diifficult you are the less I want to hangout with you, I hope you understand that.
Her: go hang with your friends
Me: oh gawd
Me: do you mean that or do you want a reaction because you seemed pretty excited last night
Me: Your crazy immature if your going to waste my time then dont expect me to give a fuck about your feelings like I did last night. How could I ever trust someone that acts like you are right now lol
Then hours later it dawned on me that I was completely out of line and tried to own up to it
Me: My bad about earlier I probably should have hit you up earlier in the day. You were obviously doing something already. I have my moments (clenched teeth emoji) Ill talk to you later
Trying to laugh it off of now :) somebody slap me back into reality and tell me how I can make this a fuck buddy situation. Her friend told me she was super upset about it and thats a def not the way to go about this haha. I need to be fun and in the moment not this needy gay shit that is how terrible relationships are formed.
bro, when I was reading this, I fucking didn't want to hangout with you lol. This was really fucking bad, you know better man.
You do realize you are directly attracting all the drama and flakiness. Because you're not completely within yourself. You are leeching. As well, you are not centred. You're doing things to get a reaction. You're not completely authentic.
Me: alright whats the deal do you want to kick it or no before I go do something else
Already you seem frustrated and outcome dependent. If you have to send a message like that, just stop, and go do do something else. "Before i do something else" is super butt hurt.
Maybe say
- Thanks for calling (teetch clenching emoji)
Her: Are you with people
Me: nah im alone right now you and me are doing something no the whole crew
Would have kept this tight..... "No i'm all alone, it's kinda hawt if you think about it"
Her: wait what
Me: you and me are doing somwthing
Again this is bad.
Me: (name) I need to know soon you took forever to get back to me im either hanging with your or going fishing. The more diifficult you are the less I want to hangout with you, I hope you understand that.
This is when you fucking get extremely bad ! Just go fishing. Stop putting that shit on her, waiting around like this girl is going to complete you. If you really are going to let that girl control your state, then get used to this shit.
This is when you would say - yah it's fine, i don't like your haircut anyway ;)
Her: go hang with your friends
Me: oh gawd
Me: do you mean that or do you want a reaction because you seemed pretty excited last night
Me: Your crazy immature if your going to waste my time then dont expect me to give a fuck about your feelings like I did last night. How could I ever trust someone that acts like you are right now lol
FUCKKKK MEOW! WTF!!!!! GAWD. THIS IS ALL YOUR FUCKING FAULT. C'MON. Put yourself in the girls shoes man. Imagine you're reading your shitty texts. She is reacting exactly how she should. Take some responsibility.
Meow you're being an asshole. It's fucking awful
I go in and I'm crisp, clean and my vocals are fucking coming out like music. - Anonymous MW student
- Autismus Terminus Finis (Root Cause/Cure of Autism Epidemic)
- Called Off My Wedding & Other Turn Tail Signs Of The American Male
Thanks guys
Meow you're being an asshole. It's fucking awful
haha on point !
Something valuable I learned, when you really want to hangout with the girl, shit is going to get messed. Take a deep breath and try to feel totally complete within yourself. Feel complete in this moment. LIke you have everything you could possible want, right here and right now.
Plug in the Tolle.
I think one of the reasons why you fucked up so badly, was because you let this girl completely control your state because you wanted to chill with her so bad. Like a little kid that wants to play with his toy, that mommy took away. That's how you acted.
Manwhore wrote:
Meow you're being an asshole. It's fucking awfulhaha on point !
Something valuable I learned, when you really want to hangout with the girl, shit is going to get messed. Take a deep breath and try to feel totally complete within yourself. Feel complete in this moment. LIke you have everything you could possible want, right here and right now.
Plug in the Tolle.
I think one of the reasons why you fucked up so badly, was because you let this girl completely control your state because you wanted to chill with her so bad. Like a little kid that wants to play with his toy, that mommy took away. That's how you acted.
Lol thanks for the time PB
Imma go brush up on some more text convos from you and MW, /i need to break this shitty habit and keep things calm and collected.
Personally I hope this girl talks major shit and he loses all his friends over it.
I go in and I'm crisp, clean and my vocals are fucking coming out like music. - Anonymous MW student
- Autismus Terminus Finis (Root Cause/Cure of Autism Epidemic)
- Called Off My Wedding & Other Turn Tail Signs Of The American Male
I hope he trips and falls in the shower, the shower curtain gets wrapped around his neck and he's plunged face first into his own toilet where I have of course left an untasty treat for just such an occasion, and he drowns.
I go in and I'm crisp, clean and my vocals are fucking coming out like music. - Anonymous MW student
- Autismus Terminus Finis (Root Cause/Cure of Autism Epidemic)
- Called Off My Wedding & Other Turn Tail Signs Of The American Male
Yo you getting super eager to hang out with her is like you getting super thirsty, you gotta stay hydrated homie but she shouldn't be your main faucet. THats cool though, sometimes you gotta get it out your system.
Your skillet is hot right now so I would switch to a side suacepan to get some perspective on this B.
Its chill though, see how far you can push the boundries... Even if you push yourself out, learn limits that way, or at lerast what triggers certain things... nawww meeeeeen hustla
Haha Swollguy you crack me up man, I love it.
Guys I fucked up and my emotions got the best of me. I just felt sexually charged and wanted to bust a nut. I love the uprising from the forum, I posted that shit because I wanted a verbal ass kicking! And MW my puppy already eats tasty treats out of the toilet so your totally welcome in my home :)