please help with this convo
a little background for this girl. it's a russian chick i met during the day, and she was super responsive right away. twirling her hair, and asking me questions. she's just finishing her college degree so she said that she'll go out with me but after she finishes her dissertation. though i misunderstood and thought she's talking about final exams. so i ask her about the exams a few times in the convo instead of asking her out. i thought that 15th of may is roughly the time of her final exam but it was the dissertation after which she was apparently willing to go out.
as you can see, she is super responsive in the beginning but kinda moves to medium engagement later on. so i am wondering how to get her replying fast again. i am also not sure whether i should try to push for a meetup before her final exam which is in about two weeks. if she went, she would probably want to go home within two hours so that kinda sucks.
anyway, any tips and feedback on the conversation so far would be greatly appreciated.
Me: It's scientifically proven that too much studying kills deadly amount of braincells. The question is whether you should be worried.
Girl - 19 mins later: Maybe)but it does not refers to critical cases and late deadlines
Me - 1 hr 54 mins later: We'll have to get you tested afterwards. If you do well, i might invite you out. If you dont i'll sell you to scientists.
Girl - 5 mins later: ))))to any group of scientist,except british.they are most boring I will be glad to see you later, around 15th of May.sorry for such late term
Me - 1 min later: Sounds like you have some terrible experience with the british people ;)
Girl - 1 min later: No, that is simply wide spread fact about them)
Me - 20 mins later: Ahh so your books say: british people - 90% boring, 5% awesome, 4% assholes
Girl - 2 mins later: I am not so precise, just look through history IG nobel prize. If you have free time
Me - 18 mins later: Do you levitate frogs and stuff? I dont think its safe to go out with you.
Girl - 51 mins later: At least you have time to train yourself till 15th
Me - 12 mins later: Maybe so but now im scared you will do nasty things to me
Girl: I would not
Me - 2 mins later: You swear on life of your mom?
Girl - 2 mins later: Ano
Me - 45 mins later: Haha, you're actually funny. I like that.
Me - 1 week 2 days later: Statistics show that 95% of people in the shower sing, and the other 5% masturbate. Do you know what they sing?
Girl - 2 mins later: What?)
Me - 4 mins later: You must be among those 5% then ;)
Girl - 1 min later: Hahahaha
Me - 7 mins later: So how are your braincell loses... Like a small nuclear bomb or just a decent night of drinking?
Girl - 1 day later: Sorry for silence, crazy days: studying,working,guests..all together
Me - 48 mins later: I bet you were actually watching movies and eating popcorn the whole day :b
Girl - 6 mins later: I was on the concert
Me - 4 days 18 hrs later: Hello kitty
Me - 1 day 18 hrs later: So when is your big day princess?
Girl - 2 hrs 20 mins later: Hi, the term is not known now, maybe in a week, they will send us letter of happinies
Me - 4 hrs 23 mins later: You mean you already passed and wait for the ceremony or are you talking about the term of the final exam?
Girl - 18 mins later: About final exam and the defense of the thesis
Me - 31 mins later: Aww so let your brother open the envelope. Just in case its anthrax you know ;)
Me - 1 week 5 days later: Today is the international retard day. Send a positive message to a handicaped friend like I just did. Hang in there sweetie. You are special.
Girl - 1 hr 38 mins later: Thanks, send you back sweet sms.
Me - 34 mins later: I only wish the best for you ;)
Me: What you doin'?
Girl - 24 mins later: Working, studying as usual
Me - 44 mins later: Sounds like you need a break this weekend as you're having too much fun.
Girl - 4 hrs 49 mins later: Yeah too much fun) but my next is also workend)
Me - 12 hrs 25 mins later: I called the paid number which knows everything (no not a whore number) and they told me that i am confused.
Me: What do you mean by workend?
Girl - 1 hr 3 mins later: My reality for next weekend)
Me - 2 mins later: Tell tourists to fuck off and take a day off :))
Girl: :))
Me - 1 min later: Do you have a date of your final exam now?
Girl: Yes, 22 of June
Me - 29 mins later: Thats a lot of time to learn more of that levitating frogs stuff. Bet you can name all african presidents by now.
Me - 5 days 8 hrs later: Did you by any chance see a golum looking for his ring today?
Girl - 1 hr 4 mins later: And .. the end of this joke?)
Me - 23 mins later: I went out this morning about five minutes after i woke up. I could barely see (golum) and there was a girl that could be you. But at that point i wouldnt be sure if i saw my mother.
Girl - 1 hr 57 mins later: Take a pause, may be you write too much about video games)
Me - 17 hrs 45 mins later: Sounds like you have a crystal ball or no idea about sleep deprivation :b
Me - 1 min later: Did you know that blue whale's tongue weights more than elephant? <3 national geographic
Girl - 30 mins later: I am afraid of number of facts you know
Me - 4 mins later: How afraid on the scale of 1 to 10?)
Girl: 10
Me - 1 hr 31 mins later: You are diagnosed with fatal scare-o-tomia and need to be cuddled daily as prevention. Contact your nearest alphapro for necessary treatment.
Girl - 5 hrs 53 mins later: Anyway i dont feel sick
Me - 11 hrs 9 mins later: Arguing with the the doctor?!
She cooled off because the conversation is going nowhere. It started off nicely. I liked the line with the scientists. But after she mentioned the 15th, you just accepted that and It was all fluff from here on out.
And you definitely should have pushed for a meet up.
I like the Brad Pitt rule. Imagine Brad Pitt is asking her out. I don't know when exactly this convo first took place but do you think she would tell him: Sorry, I can only meet after the 15th of May. Very unlikely. She's not sold on you yet. I mean she's telling you about the date and she shows she's open to meet up in the future but she's definitely not seeing your full value yet. Most girls can take a short break from studying if it means she gets a good fucking.
And even if she only stays for 2 hours - so what. You itensified your relationship and demonstrated that you're a man of action. Not text entertainer guy. And a lot can happen in 2 hours...
Hmm.. So where should i be headed with the convo? Apart from meetup for which she isnt ready yet.
She cooled off because the conversation is going nowhere. It started off nicely. I liked the line with the scientists. But after she mentioned the 15th, you just accepted that and It was all fluff from here on out.And you definitely should have pushed for a meet up.
I like the Brad Pitt rule. Imagine Brad Pitt is asking her out. I don't know when exactly this convo first took place but do you think she would tell him: Sorry, I can only meet after the 15th of May. Very unlikely. She's not sold on you yet. I mean she's telling you about the date and she shows she's open to meet up in the future but she's definitely not seeing your full value yet. Most girls can take a short break from studying if it means she gets a good fucking.
And even if she only stays for 2 hours - so what. You itensified your relationship and demonstrated that you're a man of action. Not text entertainer guy. And a lot can happen in 2 hours...
totally. I would have either started some sexual talk (not sure of the dynamic you left off at when you got her number) so I good bang her and then she goes back to studying or I when she said looking forward to meeting you on the 15th I would have simply not answered back until the you hear from her around the 15th. Btw when it's exam time and girls are stressed in general they love a good pounding. It's like it resets their brain and they are ready to study again. It's literally like a few cups of coffee for them. Having said that if you do get her to meet up that is all that is going to be on her mind. She doesn't have time for much else. Hope this helps.
.Holy shit I just read the rest of the conversation, your history dude. You "over gamed" her. That doesn't mean give up however.
You should let it reset for at least 2-3 days or so and then re-engage with a solid text and start, more or less as, from the beginning. This time introduce the idea of meeting up ASAP, playfull. Come from the frame of "Ok you little thing. This back and forth play has been going on long enough. Your time is over. I'll have to take you now" Don't write that actually .. (or maybe do, it could work.) That's just the frame of your communication.
Remember to keep about a 4:1 ratio of meet-up texts and fluff. When you go for the meetup do it playfully with something like "Ok you little goofball, when are you coming over to study for real so, you can earn your white coat. But be warned, I'm known to be very strict with my students" .. something of that nature. Then ask her schedule etc. Wash, rinse, repeat
great posts guys, that definitely helps. thanks.
totally. I would have either started some sexual talk (not sure of the dynamic you left off at when you got her number) so I good bang her and then she goes back to studying or I when she said looking forward to meeting you on the 15th I would have simply not answered back until the you hear from her around the 15th. Btw when it's exam time and girls are stressed in general they love a good pounding. It's like it resets their brain and they are ready to study again. It's literally like a few cups of coffee for them. Having said that if you do get her to meet up that is all that is going to be on her mind. She doesn't have time for much else. Hope this helps.
how would you subtly communicate that so she knows what's up? and where would you invite her so the logistics are good in case she wants to be back in two hours?
Johnny doe had some good examples. Your basically letting her know your "fed up" and you have to have her now. "Girl, get over here" mentality. Meet her in the library where she is studying if your willing to fuck her there. Your house or her house.
Go with something similar to what I posted. This dominant male/female dynamic and the fact that you're pushing physical contact is hinting at sex in itself. Girls always have the idea of sex in the back of their heads when they meet with a guy. Also, you want the logistics to be bad for her so she can't get home in 2 hours lol. Just frame it as if it's incredible easy for her to get there and back home
really appreciate your input guys. very valuable. will try to hit her up tomorrow (it's going to be four days).
will also try to look at some convos on this forum with this new insight, and try to observe the dynamic you two speak of. :)
used johnny doe's line and didn't get a response :[
Wait a couple days and try not to be "game" guy. Try something like, "omg these apples are so freaking good I can eat them for the rest of my life" next immediately send a picture of the apples.
Doesnt necessarily have to be that but keep it super casual about something going on in your day that you would like to share with her. Show her your normal. Right now she's not sold on you.
There's actually nothing "wrong" with your texting, it was actually pretty decent. Did you have any cool activities the last couple weeks? Tell a story about them, make it seem like you have a life and interesting shit going on. And also use that to tease and challenge her about what sort of person she's going to be when you guys finally hang out. I think you did a pretty solid job of keeping things on the backburner, but you didn't paint yourself as "the prize" well enough.
What line from doe_boy did you send her?
thanks a lot for your feedback, that is always great. i sent this as two texts: "Ok you little goofball, when are you coming over to study for real so, you can earn your white coat. But be warned, I'm known to be very strict with my students"
in terms of activities... i was on a biking trip last sunday and got my face burnt so i could probably conjure up some message about how i am never biking without sunscreen again. alternatively i am headed to this variation on tv show "fort boyard" this saturday. it used to be pretty popular in europe. ur basically working in team trying to do various tasks in time to get out. sometimes it's about physical skills - like walking on something that spins, other times it's about solving a puzzle. that will surely be a source of cool ideas and stories for texting.
That's very cool when I put my immersion program together it'll include stuff exactly like that.
And also use that to tease and challenge her about what sort of person she's going to be when you guys finally hang out.
but i have no idea how am i going to do this with the stuff i mentioned. An example would be really appreciated.
The real issue is that EVERY 3rd party program I use puts my voice through their lil whirl twirl, it gets condensed and put through the "machine" so to speak. Whereas when I just use the sound recorder it makes my voice sound much fuller and resonant because it's simply recording my voice. There's nothing to test here. I simply have to figure out how to get Jessica's voice sounding better. I'll put the speaker closer to the mic and aim it better.
seems like i am fucked
me: arguing with the doctor?! (last bit from previous convo, first one to which she didn't respond)
me: ok little goofball, when are you coming over to study for real so you can earn your white coat? (5 days later)
me: but be warned im known to be very strict with my students (2 minutes later)
me: no sunscreen = no biking. my face is buurnt (1 day later)
her: hey, did you not notice this monologue? i find us totally different:( (6 minutes later)
You are never fucked. Why? There is vagina everywhere...
her: hey, did you not notice this monologue? i find us totally different:( (6 minutes later)
Me: That's what makes it way fucking better.
After that call her out look at Patrick Bateman convos and how he call out girls on their bullshit. The way he did it.
Also text other girls and be really willing to drop that one.