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This is so annoying lol.

So I was talking to this girl via dating app and we agreed to be FWB. Cancel on her because I slammed some girl the night before. So she's annoyed we havent hung out and just agrees for me to spend the night - but that we aren't going to have sex first night. W/e i figure this is pretty money. So we hang, watch a movie or w/e and then basically get naked and do stuff. She's kinda worried about having sex mainly because of appearance with friends when she tells them.

So couple days later this week she asks if i've been seeing anyone - like an idiot i entertain this damn thought. 

I told her we could be honest or just not tell each other; we opt for honesty.

I told her I saw a girl two nights before we hung out - didn't get into details.

This let Pandora's box out and now she starts creating all these rationalizations like "I would feel bad if we're hooking up and I'm seeing someone else and then I have to be honest and tell them that I'm hooking up with someone. Idk if I can do that"

I recognize that the ship is sinking so I just cut the thread " k you're worrying about stuff that just doesn't even exist yet. " 

we didn't really text this week - you can tell this put a strain on the dynamics between us. anyway she just text me to let me know she can't do this. i tried probing, assuming that the reason she was worried is because she thought i'd burn her. She flat out said I'm a tool and that she doesn't like me lol. I genuinely thought she was lying and simply was worried about getting played by me so I tried alleviate those concerns - no dice. She flat out said she didn't like me and exclusivity is not it, she just needs longterm because if we were hooking up she'd find an emotional outlet..  So we parted ways because "I don't see anything long term with you."

THIS IS WHAT HAPPENS WHEN YOU DON'T GIVE HER DONG AND ADMIT TO SEEING OTHER WOMEN lol. god damnit. 

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After I read we agreed to be

After I read we agreed to be friends with benefits on a dating app my head almost exploded. Wth? You've never even met her in person...where's your screening process? Btw you are not FEB with a girl until you bang her for a second time. You can't put the cart before the horse man.

and you told her you had sex with a random girl the night before? Why did you say that? I'm sure she felt real special after hearing that. You made her feel like a piece of prison ass man. 

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Yeah lol. Def the big 3 were

Yeah lol. Def the big 3 were even establishing parameters to define what was going on prior to even fucking, not fucking her the night I spent at her pad, then subsequently telling her I smashed some chick when she asked. I mean we chatted for a while before agreeing but yea that was def silly.

she thought I was a total douchebag prior to all of this, so me admitting banging a girl only  helped confirm her suspicion. I mean she was pretty harsh " you're a tool. You literally give zero fucks and just wanna bang " 

Which truthfully isn't even the case. But yea,I think all were dumbass mistakes I made that while isolated could have been managed, in the aggregate are legit just way too much for any girl to put up with. Furthermore, I had a pretty good idea she wouldn't take well hearing the truth. 

She also put some silly thing on her IG that said something like " The game is all wrong. Don't try and look for someone you can be, but rather find someone as you are." Or something to that effect. Noticed she took it down but whatevs I mean what's done is done. Happy 4th should be dope today

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lmao at your last sentence,

lmao at your last sentence, there is a clear disconnect between reality and the way you think about women. that said, um no, this is what happens when you babble about bs over text and don't just set up dates.  you clearly do not connect with actual women irl and are spitting random bs you've read on pua sites.  wtf is up with so many guys thinking they need to have "text game" to get girls to meet up in person, especially off dating apps?  you should be getting girls to meet up in a few sentences and then do the small talk in person.  

the best openers on Tinder/dating apps are fun/easy to respond to, unique relative to the 90+% panzies she's matched with, and already set the tone for a meetup.  something like "A or B?", options could include: ice cream, coffee, tea, happy hour...it does not matter.  the idea is to give them two choices of first dates that could lead to sex eventually, but are very safe from her perspective.  in my experience this sort of message weeds out basically every girl who is going to waste your time and the responses already work towards a meet up.  i'd be surprised if there's a greater than 10% chance you actually meet up with a Tinder match, so don't overthink it and try to convince yourself you are screwing up if you don't turn every match into a "fwb" (so f'ing funny btw).  a HUGE portion of girls on Tinder are not there to actually meet up with people in person, it's an ego/validation booster, some sort of drinking game, or just for shits and giggles.  when you send messages like this, you might only get 20% of girls responding, but those that respond will be overwhelmingly more likely to actually want to meet up with you than trying to run some perfect text game bs on every girl you match with. 

You should have no problem getting several dates a week with this sort of extremely simple "game" (try thinking like a human being and not a pua loser).  Despite what you've heard from pua clowns, it's ok to be vunerable and look like you aren't the most interesting man in the world.  as long as you are legitimately cool with who you are, girls will like you.  not only that, but the girls you do meet up with will be much more likely to actually think you are cool.  

not trying to hate on you or make you feel bad, but you really need to evaluate yourself objectively. some of the shit you just spat comes off as just lol bat shit crazy and was obviously written by someone who does not connect with women, or even people in general.   i would bet one of my nuts you have spent more time reading pua garbage than connecting with actual girls irl. 

btw, agreeing to be fwb's over text with someone you've never met is sooooo lol omg you are f'ing hilarious and must be a troll.  

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Cool dude.  

Cool dude.  

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Any generalization is going

Any generalization is going to be wrong.. including the one you're making, virgin. DURR. lol 

I've never had a lot of respect for Aquitas' game, simply because most guys that think they have game have NO idea what's actually possible.. but he was a fratstar and I bet MANY of the hotties he blew through back in his college and law school days would make you froth at the mouth. You have NO idea who you're speaking to. A lot of turds come on this forum thinking it's Rsdn. It is not ;)

It seems you've gone through Jeff's online game resource, that's good for you, but it doesn't make you an expert lol. "Minimalist" text game is a TOOL.. it's not the whole bag. There have been many girls and many beautiful experiences I wouldn't have had without some long-ass fucking text game. Depending on the girl or situation, some text convos are short and sweet, others are quite lengthy. 

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Manwhore wrote: Any

Manwhore wrote:
Any generalization is going to be wrong.. including the one you're making, virgin. DURR. lol 

I've never had a lot of respect for Aquitas' game, simply because most guys that think they have game have NO idea what's actually possible.. but he was a fratstar and I bet MANY of the hotties he blew through back in his college and law school days would make you froth at the mouth. You have NO idea who you're speaking to. A lot of turds come on this forum thinking it's Rsdn. It is not ;)

It seems you've gone through Jeff's online game resource, that's good for you, but it doesn't make you an expert lol. "Minimalist" text game is a TOOL.. it's not the whole bag. There have been many girls and many beautiful experiences I wouldn't have had without some long-ass fucking text game. Depending on the girl or situation, some text convos are short and sweet, others are quite lengthy. 

I can't tell if I should be offended haha. 

But yea, pretty much all spot on - except law skewl girls peak at girl next door cute :( 

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Manwhore wrote:Any

Manwhore wrote:
Any generalization is going to be wrong.. including the one you're making, virgin. DURR. lol 

I've never had a lot of respect for Aquitas' game, simply because most guys that think they have game have NO idea what's actually possible.. but he was a fratstar and I bet MANY of the hotties he blew through back in his college and law school days would make you froth at the mouth. You have NO idea who you're speaking to. A lot of turds come on this forum thinking it's Rsdn. It is not ;)

It seems you've gone through Jeff's online game resource, that's good for you, but it doesn't make you an expert lol. "Minimalist" text game is a TOOL.. it's not the whole bag. There have been many girls and many beautiful experiences I wouldn't have had without some long-ass fucking text game. Depending on the girl or situation, some text convos are short and sweet, others are quite lengthy. 

I have never gone through a text game "resource" of any sorts because tbh I've never needed help in that department.  Imo though, anyone who isn't experienced in anything should almost always take a minimalist approach until they've mastered the basics.  Anything beyond that will just lead to overwhelm and usually limits progress.  

I just graduated from a Top 3 party school and worked at a sorority for four years, so I know what's possible in college with ZERO game whatsoever.  You literally have to try not to hook up with chicks in that type of environment. I also wasn't in a frat where drunk sloots were literally begging to get in my house every weekend.  Idk man someone talking about being fwb with a girl they've never met irl, let alone actually had sex with... I have to question their understanding of women.  I just don't see how it would be possible for someone who's had success (not just sex btw) with women to say something like that.  Having one night stands with drunk college girls you met at a frat party (who literally go out looking to fuck) is very different than meeting up with girls you've met over Tinder and any other sort of dating for that matter. I was just talking about what's worked for me and many of my friends.  I also have plently of female friends who use Tinder and all of them complain about how retarded 99% of the guys they talk to are with messaging.  You guys realize that almost every guy on there is asking is they are dtf, or some variation thereof right?  Even if you think they are into it, I would bet 90%+ of them are trolling you and showing your messages to their friends.  Also, any dick picks sent are 100% being passed around their social circles, so don't do that, ever.   

As far as some girls being different than others, obviously this is true.  However, I apply the 80/20 principal to damn near everything I do, and if I can get several other dates in the time it takes me to text back and forth with one difficult chick, I'm always going to take the multiple dates route.  Assuming you're only swiping right to quality girls and you know relatively nothing about any of them (everything I've been taking about was related to girls you haven't met already), why waste time worrying about one when there's so many more out there that won't make your life difficult?  It also doesn't hurt to get as many dates as possible, filter out undesirables, make the sexy time, andn the get into their social circles.  Having several girls you're seeing who will invite you out to shit is gold.  I'm frothing at the mouth at how many girls I had to turn down during college taking similar approaches.  Had I not been in a relationship for two years of college, I would have easily hit triple digits in my 3.5 years.    

My closing statement and or tldr: I've been killing it off Tinder just going for happy hour meetups.  Just think about it and realize why it's so money.  Not just meeting at a bar, meeting at happy hour.  

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virgin you're in for a rude

virgin you're in for a rude awakening. Hold onto it bro.. hold onto it real tight

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imavirgin wrote: Manwhore

imavirgin wrote:
Manwhore wrote:
Any generalization is going to be wrong.. including the one you're making, virgin. DURR. lol 

I've never had a lot of respect for Aquitas' game, simply because most guys that think they have game have NO idea what's actually possible.. but he was a fratstar and I bet MANY of the hotties he blew through back in his college and law school days would make you froth at the mouth. You have NO idea who you're speaking to. A lot of turds come on this forum thinking it's Rsdn. It is not ;)

It seems you've gone through Jeff's online game resource, that's good for you, but it doesn't make you an expert lol. "Minimalist" text game is a TOOL.. it's not the whole bag. There have been many girls and many beautiful experiences I wouldn't have had without some long-ass fucking text game. Depending on the girl or situation, some text convos are short and sweet, others are quite lengthy. 

I have never gone through a text game "resource" of any sorts because tbh I've never needed help in that department.  Imo though, anyone who isn't experienced in anything should almost always take a minimalist approach until they've mastered the basics.  Anything beyond that will just lead to overwhelm and usually limits progress.  

I just graduated from a Top 3 party school and worked at a sorority for four years, so I know what's possible in college with ZERO game whatsoever.  You literally have to try not to hook up with chicks in that type of environment. I also wasn't in a frat where drunk sloots were literally begging to get in my house every weekend.  Idk man someone talking about being fwb with a girl they've never met irl, let alone actually had sex with... I have to question their understanding of women.  I just don't see how it would be possible for someone who's had success (not just sex btw) with women to say something like that.  Having one night stands with drunk college girls you met at a frat party (who literally go out looking to fuck) is very different than meeting up with girls you've met over Tinder and any other sort of dating for that matter. I was just talking about what's worked for me and many of my friends.  I also have plently of female friends who use Tinder and all of them complain about how retarded 99% of the guys they talk to are with messaging.  You guys realize that almost every guy on there is asking is they are dtf, or some variation thereof right?  Even if you think they are into it, I would bet 90%+ of them are trolling you and showing your messages to their friends.  Also, any dick picks sent are 100% being passed around their social circles, so don't do that, ever.   

As far as some girls being different than others, obviously this is true.  However, I apply the 80/20 principal to damn near everything I do, and if I can get several other dates in the time it takes me to text back and forth with one difficult chick, I'm always going to take the multiple dates route.  Assuming you're only swiping right to quality girls and you know relatively nothing about any of them (everything I've been taking about was related to girls you haven't met already), why waste time worrying about one when there's so many more out there that won't make your life difficult?  It also doesn't hurt to get as many dates as possible, filter out undesirables, make the sexy time, andn the get into their social circles.  Having several girls you're seeing who will invite you out to shit is gold.  I'm frothing at the mouth at how many girls I had to turn down during college taking similar approaches.  Had I not been in a relationship for two years of college, I would have easily hit triple digits in my 3.5 years.    

My closing statement and or tldr: I've been killing it off Tinder just going for happy hour meetups.  Just think about it and realize why it's so money.  Not just meeting at a bar, meeting at happy hour.  

Life isn't so black and white. Until you realize this principle applies to everything, including women, this will probably just exist outside your reality. It's actually really strange to me that you think a girl agreeing to be a FWB prior to meeting me is so 'crazy' versus college and everything college entails lol.  I'm curious as to why you're so adamant coming off as right on this thread lol. You like literally wrote an essay lol.