Predator and Prey "Older Guy - 21 Yr Old Blue-eyed Hottie" (New Article)
Goddamn Jon. That's gotta be one of your best lay reports ever! So much detail.
Do you do a lot of merging when you're working your way through the club?
I understand sexual disqualification on a much deeper level now. You disqualified her on something physical that might not be up to your standard. :)
I thought it was better to keep the sexual tension and even tease them a bit by not overdoing the escalation until you pull them back. But you dove straight into it. Is this because it was a quick car pull or is this standard escalation for you?
It depends on a few factors mang. How much compliance I've got from her, how into me she is, who else is around, if I happen to be running some jealousy stuff (many times it's inadvertent), if she is or isn't the chick leader. What it comes down to is what's going to work out the best in the end. But do I want to run heavy sexual stuff...? Of course! Lol. There are plenty of girsl, hot ones especially - sexual ones for sure, where if you don't run something like that she's just going to fuck off.
But mpgamer you have a way of dehumanizing everything. Practically on the sociopath scale except you're not one, lol. That's not the shit you want to be focusing on right now or you run the risk of falling deeper into that manipulative shithole a lot of guys go down to their own detriment.
Amazing read,Jon.Value packed and all the good stuff.Keep it up !
I'm not going to argue that I do have some sociopathic tendencies - such as not being able to empathize with certain individuals. But, I'm curious as to what specifically makes you say that? You've mentioned it more than once so you're obviously seeing something specific.
For the record, I'm 100% against lying and manipulation. And the whole 'notch on the belt' lay count obsession doesn't appeal to me at all. I'm not in this for my ego to be validated. I've had the benefit of being humbled by life too many times to be arrogant.
I don't view people or women as objects in some sort of chess match. I do care about people. I'm in this to enjoy shared experiences with women. That's what I value most. The better understanding I have of game and female psychology the better I can accomplish this to the benefit of everyone involved.
What shit should I not be focusing on right now?
There's clearly certain tactics involved in game, some of which you've broken down in this very report. I break it down so I can learn it and apply it on a practical level. And right now I am working on my presence and vibing as you previously suggested. Meditating on a daily basis and doing 'no filter' drills.
Where am I dehumanizing? Because it's rather discouraging to hear that.
Here's an example mang:
Did some approaches with a wing a couple nights in a row. Long time since I've been out. It seems like I'm not getting the sexual hook point (attraction). Issue repeated both nights.
Went in strong loud, close proximity, slow impactful pacing in my speech, physicality with handshake introduction, a solid open. Two chicks. They immediately responded well. My wing did a great job occupying the friend. Had a fun no filter conversation showing my personality and dominance. Did a couple teases like 'it would never work between us. you're just too nice'. Which she actually was really nice the whole time.
Girl reponded well holding onto my hand after I high fived her, she actually held on first I was just going to let go. All going good
I could have done a couple technical things better. Didn't get shit tested by either girl at all. So it looks like these girls are just being nice and aren't really attracted.
Maybe I'm not giving them enough shit, qualifying enough or these particular girls just weren't into me. I dunno. Maybe not enough sexual verbals. The physicality was definitely there though.
There's another one somewhere else. Can you see what I'm getting at here? And dude I hope you understand I never do this to entertain myself. I'm being very serious I'm really trying to point you in the right direction I don't mean to be overly critical.
Game is about learning to make connections with people. Even a guy like Julien will tell you. So in THAT context... re-read your post
So when is this porno being released?
So when is this porno being released?
You're versed in NLP and even CBT yeah? Take a look from that perspective. Still think your excuses hold water? Your language and processing of the situation is completely dehumanizing. Fix that. Imagine reading your stuff from a girl's perspective.
Here's a hint: those are NOT the fundamentals or basics. I had my girlfriend read through it as well weeks ago, she was also creeped out in fact she'd previously used that shit as evidence of me being a "pua" shitbag. Thx, fucker.
This is only one example you've done this multiple times and I've already addressed this with you.
So when is this porno being released?
I definitely wanted to come out with a dvd series on physical game. We'll see lol
Gamer, what I realized about being analytical is that it was a way to distance myself, like a way to feel less emotionally involved/vulnerable. When I'm analyzing it's a way to separate myself, like analyzing from the stands or sidelines vs being on the field.
Women also feel disconnected from a man when they're doing that because they don't feel like the guy is actually there with them. You can like feel that person's focus or energy up in their head and not there with you if you're being present with them.
I can feel when people are being analytical (they're with themselves interacting with me or the idea of me) vs when they're actually there with me. That's why I love going out w my natural friend, he's just raw always there, being himself vs PUA guys who can't just enjoy and be in the moment w me or any of the people we meet. There's nothing wrong with it either, it's just another level. But I would get stuck before because I would look at it like it was a deficiency or like I had done something wrong. Now I don't and I have a lot more freedom and disidentification from it. It's not me it's just a pattern I ran before.
What I'm seeing in your languaging is that you're putting more emphasis on how youre being perceived and what you're physically doing (what are the objects at play doing). I think you would get a lot more from being introspective. Looking at what your real intention and desires are and looking at what you are actually presenting to a girl. Is there a difference, if so why? And work on that.
Now when I'm out its a lot more about noticing what I'm feeling and what I'm wanting. Noticing what I'm enjoying. And I tend to express the right things more because I've worked on those fears of being vulnerable with them seeing my intentions. I've also worked a lot on what my intentions are so I could be at a genuine place where is that could read my mind I would be fine with it. That's how it's easier for me to just tell girls what I'm thinking, because I'm clear on what makes me feel good, what intentions or values make me feel good about myself as a person. I told a girl the other night like 5 minutes in that I found her really cute, liked her style and she had a really sexy curve to her and that I wanted to take her home with me. She wasn't offended or uncomfortable cause my intentions were honest, appreciative and respectful. Mark Manson talks about this says your intentions are your sub-communication. So work on your intention and your sub-communication will just fall into place naturally.
Hope that makes sense I'm really tired and not all there right now as I'm typing this.
I feel that sometimes your have subconscious intents/desires/assumptions and they manifest in your subcomms. And by looking at your subcommunications, you can reveal them and put them into the conscious. Mind and body are very closely connected.
I was a bit suprised at manwhore calling gamer's post dehumanizing because I feel a lot of PUA is dehumanizing but it seems like it's an necessary evil at times to explain certain concepts.
I was wondering how you feel about Todd's teaching style but I feel he has a very similair style to technical breakdown.
Yes Todd's always had the most dehumanizing style.
I messed up by not reading this sooner :( good stuff MW