Pro Wisdom: Do Not Go For Girls Who are in **HEALTHY** Relationships & Marriages

Some of the best relationships of my life have been with married women. No joke. Granted I didn't find out till months into hanging out.. but that's sorta the point, not only do women lie and hide this stuff, but you also have NO idea what's going on in their lives, OR, how they're choosing to lead them. There are plenty of women out there in loveless relationships that really want some companionship, and have a physiological need for dick. For you to try to morally paint all of this as simply an immoral egotistical foray then use it to project guilt onto dudes attempting to control them is tbh just not your role here.

Also.. some girls are just complete sluts and are unable or don't care to develop any sort of self-control in this area. To be honest for quite a few of them it just doesn't make sense to. You will meet plenty of women that fuck the guys they want with some dude footing the bill with his rock on her. It's an "arrangement". You do NOT want to deny yourself these experiences, believe me. Just be smart about it, don't fall for any manipulations, and really consider who the girl is and what sort of life she's living. 

No one should let their lives be run by some moral code dictated to them. Especially one as one-sided and naive as this. Live your own ethical code. No I do not actively seduce married women, but it's not a deal breaker either. I'll make my own decisions.

it's certainly more complicated  than what you say swoll. i was talking to my best female friend a while ago, and she said that her therapist kinda hinted at going for some cheating. she's in releationship for seven years and the therapist thinks (and so do i) that it's already over and she just hasn't gathered the strenght to break up with her bf. so the thinking is - that she might use some guy as a bridge out of a relationship. it doesn't even need to be and probably won't be serious. she just needs to make the move. and it's actually a pattern i've seen around myself quite a few times.

i was talking about similar topic with my therapist a while back and she said something like: "so you think that women have no say in this? that they won't be able to take care of themselves?" and to a degree she's right. if a girl is a slut, you won't change a thing and if she's in a loving relationship, she will hopefully ignore you.

which reminds me of one more talk - with an older girl i used to date a long time ago. she's now about 38 and we talked about relationships and sexual monogamy...and she said something along the lines that sex with one partner eventually becomes boring so having something on the side is ok but you always need to put the family first (she's married and with a kid).

I agree with Manhoe.

Some girls are just going to cheat and I have no issues with being that guy.  The hottest girl I've fucked had a boyfriend she didn't bring up until right before we fucked.  I wasn't some evil manipulator convincing an innocent girl to cheat on her boyfriend lol.  She wanted some holiday dick, and I was the guy to provide that.  No way I'm going to feel guilty about that. 

Swollguys post would make sense in rsdnation, guys over there seem to do all kinds of shit just to boost their ego. 

I used to hook up with a girl who had a boyfriend but i liked her and she liked me which was VERY AWESOME, i didn't  "seduce her into cheating"

Appreciate your responce. I know this is a contraversal topic. Not saying you are wrong MW, just I need to clarify some things. There are plenty of grey areas here.

I wrote this article late last night but I didn't mean for it to be interpretted in such extremes. This is not some whiteknight bull shit.  What I meant to say is , GIRLS WHO ARE IN GOOD RELATIONSHIPS. This wasn't meant to be geared towards women who are in stupid flings, not taking their shit seriously, or are just ratchets. I menat this article to be about women who are in happy and fullfilling relationships.

I thought this idea went without saying... I mean this would be chill and this changes a lot.

Again, this is my fault here; I should have clarified in the beggining that this was towards women in healthy and happy relationships. Not ratchets. 

Again, this all boils down to the article being misinterpetted (I framed it bad). Yeah I agree with that a lot, however the girl you desribed I don't think that would fall into the category of women i meant for this article. So yeah there would be a lot of experiences to have and learn from those type of sugar daddy girls, because in fact those women DO neeed someone who they can actually relate with and be real with. So in this case you described here, YES you can actually HELP a girl in this way. So thanks for pointing that out and making that clear.

Totally feel you on this, this would be a chodey code if it was just black and white ... But its not. I hope my clarification helped explain that.

 see the edit on the OP

Well that's cool man.  If thats the case for girls you have banged then I guess we have different ways/criteria of measuring "hot".

Maybe dont title your threads "Pro Wisdom" lol thats a big name to live up too. I understand what you mean though. I got this girls number the other other day off a solid interaction, everything was smooth. She had to go though. I was hitting her up throughout the whole but she wasnt hitting me back, turns out she was in a committed relationship, she just happened to get caught up in the moment. Most girls will follow the arousing stimulation. The emotions always overtake the logical mind. But like MW said, sometimes these women dont even tell you that theyre in a commited realtionship! But yeah you really cant generalize something like this, its highly likely you will have future experiences that will change your mind on this subject. Its good that you put your thoughts out there though.

I definitely wish things were different, there was a time I took marriage very seriously, I just simply can't anymore. And it's just as much men's faults as it is women's. But no I get zero joy out of "tooling" some guy who doesn't have a clue his woman's getting other dicks. I hate the pain it causes, if I didn't have so much compassion in this area I don't think I could be a dating coach. But yeah if some hottie's running around and I can plainly see what's up, I'm going to throw my cock in her for sure. 

that's it i think. everything should depend on the situation... people shouldn't learn pickup to be imoral dicks who will do anything to sleep with any women. but if you know that she just wants it, and the question is if it's you or someone else... then why not.

the morality comes back into play when we're talking about people you know. and it's a line i've been thinking about a lot. i used to think i'd never do that to people i know (i am talking about people who are not my friends, that i simply know) but my therapist talked me out of it lol. i am still pretty sure that i'd never do that to a friend though. that is just wrong and weak.

I appreciate everyone's feedback. I tottally understand everyone is different, and every situation is different.

But for me, I can sleep good at night knowing that I won't intentially mess up good relationships. As far as for girls in the other situations, I guess I will just have to wait and see.

I guess my verson of this thing called life is just being the best person / most virtuous I can be; and let my "game" evolve naturally. Everyone has a different approach, thats mine.

There is no right or wrong way to do things because in the end we all create our own realities anyways.

And MW I feel what you say homie and I know you are out there only going for good intentions.

Mainly this article is written for the top players out there who DONT have those good intentions.