Skip to Content
-->

Pro Wisdom: Do Not Go For Girls Who are in **HEALTHY** Relationships & Marriages

10 replies [Last post]
Offline
Joined: 02/04/2015

Ok Very Unpopular Opinion Puffin here; but the wise will read through this.

This is something today my friend taught me / made me realize after an extended warm up set (~30 min) we had with a couple milfs:

It is simply not worth it to seduce a girl who is already married or in a relationship.

Edit:: My bad homies when I wrote this I figured you guys would be able to understand the fine lines without explanation, my bad. When I use the word relationship in this article. I mean HEALTHY, happy, fullfillng relationships that they are already satisified with. Not girls who are dodgy, not girls who have sugar daddies, not girls who dont take things seriously and looking for fun. THIS ARTICLE ONLY APPLIES TO WOMEN WHO ARE IN HAPPY AND ALREADY STRONG RELATIONSHIPS. This article is geared towards one type of woman. Yes there are a lot of grey areas in between so don't read this article in black and white. Color TV was introduced way back in the 50's so get with the program. /Edit

.

.

Yes, for the pickup community, pulling a married girl might seem to be the "ultimate test of game"; and she might be completely infatuated in your swagger for that day/moment; but the personal pain and loss of self appreciation it will cause to her and her life in the long run is not worth it. You can seriously fuck some shit up.

"Game" can be a powerful thing; women are fragile and you can seriously wreck some shit up in the long run if you abuse it.

.

.

.

There are plenty of girls out there who are available and looking for a high caliber man. Getting thirsty and thinking it is cool to fuck a woman just because she is married is some grimey shit and is just a straight lowball move. Not to mention a girl who goes for that type of thing is just not the type of girl you want to be messing with. Have some fucking standards.

Married women, especially the more mature ones, can turn out to be awesome people to associate with and be excellent assets. Not only can they be some of the best wings, chances are they have friend(s) that are single and serioiusly in need of a man in their life (Their firends need somethign To fit in.... literally and metasocially... haha ha ha huh ha).

That being said, True Gentlemen  DO NOT go for married women. Your game will grow and get A LOT better without it. Respect the commitment they have made. Leave it up to her to fuck it up with someone else if she wants. Not you. We are in the game to ENHANCE womens' lives and experiences. Not detrement them. You do not need/ want anything to do with that negative energy. All it can do for you is make you more grimey and hurt your game.

.

.

Be Positive and Spread Love.

.

.

TL;DR: Have Standards. By not going for that one married / in a relationship girl, you are going to pull a lot more women in the long run when it is all said and done and time to write your manuscript. 

__________________

Offline
Joined: 01/18/2012
Some of the best

Some of the best relationships of my life have been with married women. No joke. Granted I didn't find out till months into hanging out.. but that's sorta the point, not only do women lie and hide this stuff, but you also have NO idea what's going on in their lives, OR, how they're choosing to lead them. There are plenty of women out there in loveless relationships that really want some companionship, and have a physiological need for dick. For you to try to morally paint all of this as simply an immoral egotistical foray then use it to project guilt onto dudes attempting to control them is tbh just not your role here.

Also.. some girls are just complete sluts and are unable or don't care to develop any sort of self-control in this area. To be honest for quite a few of them it just doesn't make sense to. You will meet plenty of women that fuck the guys they want with some dude footing the bill with his rock on her. It's an "arrangement". You do NOT want to deny yourself these experiences, believe me. Just be smart about it, don't fall for any manipulations, and really consider who the girl is and what sort of life she's living. 

No one should let their lives be run by some moral code dictated to them. Especially one as one-sided and naive as this. Live your own ethical code. No I do not actively seduce married women, but it's not a deal breaker either. I'll make my own decisions.

__________________

I go in and I'm crisp, clean and my vocals are fucking coming out like music. - Anonymous MW student

- Autismus Terminus Finis (Root Cause/Cure of Autism Epidemic)

- Called Off My Wedding & Other Turn Tail Signs Of The American Male

Tap Or Click For Personal Coaching Information

Offline
Joined: 09/18/2014
it's certainly more

it's certainly more complicated  than what you say swoll. i was talking to my best female friend a while ago, and she said that her therapist kinda hinted at going for some cheating. she's in releationship for seven years and the therapist thinks (and so do i) that it's already over and she just hasn't gathered the strenght to break up with her bf. so the thinking is - that she might use some guy as a bridge out of a relationship. it doesn't even need to be and probably won't be serious. she just needs to make the move. and it's actually a pattern i've seen around myself quite a few times.

i was talking about similar topic with my therapist a while back and she said something like: "so you think that women have no say in this? that they won't be able to take care of themselves?" and to a degree she's right. if a girl is a slut, you won't change a thing and if she's in a loving relationship, she will hopefully ignore you.

which reminds me of one more talk - with an older girl i used to date a long time ago. she's now about 38 and we talked about relationships and sexual monogamy...and she said something along the lines that sex with one partner eventually becomes boring so having something on the side is ok but you always need to put the family first (she's married and with a kid).

Offline
Joined: 12/03/2012
I agree with Manhoe. Some

I agree with Manhoe.

Some girls are just going to cheat and I have no issues with being that guy.  The hottest girl I've fucked had a boyfriend she didn't bring up until right before we fucked.  I wasn't some evil manipulator convincing an innocent girl to cheat on her boyfriend lol.  She wanted some holiday dick, and I was the guy to provide that.  No way I'm going to feel guilty about that. 

Offline
Joined: 11/15/2013
Swollguys post would make

Swollguys post would make sense in rsdnation, guys over there seem to do all kinds of shit just to boost their ego. 

I used to hook up with a girl who had a boyfriend but i liked her and she liked me which was VERY AWESOME, i didn't  "seduce her into cheating"

Offline
Joined: 02/04/2015
Appreciate your Response

Appreciate your responce. I know this is a contraversal topic. Not saying you are wrong MW, just I need to clarify some things. There are plenty of grey areas here.

I wrote this article late last night but I didn't mean for it to be interpretted in such extremes. This is not some whiteknight bull shit.  What I meant to say is , GIRLS WHO ARE IN GOOD RELATIONSHIPS. This wasn't meant to be geared towards women who are in stupid flings, not taking their shit seriously, or are just ratchets. I menat this article to be about women who are in happy and fullfilling relationships.

Manwhore wrote:
Some of the best relationships of my life have been with married women. No joke. Granted I didn't find out till months into hanging out..

I thought this idea went without saying... I mean this would be chill and this changes a lot.

 

Manwhore wrote:
 OR, how they're choosing to lead them. There are plenty of women out there in loveless relationships that really want some companionship, and have a physiological need for dick. For you to try to morally paint all of this as simply an immoral egotistical foray then use it to project guilt onto dudes attempting to control them is tbh just not your role here.

Again, this is my fault here; I should have clarified in the beggining that this was towards women in healthy and happy relationships. Not ratchets. 

Manwhore wrote:
 Also.. some girls are just complete sluts and are unable or don't care to develop any sort of self-control in this area. To be honest for quite a few of them it just doesn't make sense to. You will meet plenty of women that fuck the guys they want with some dude footing the bill with his rock on her. It's an "arrangement". You do NOT want to deny yourself these experiences, believe me. Just be smart about it, don't fall for any manipulations, and really consider who the girl is and what sort of life she's living. 

Again, this all boils down to the article being misinterpetted (I framed it bad). Yeah I agree with that a lot, however the girl you desribed I don't think that would fall into the category of women i meant for this article. So yeah there would be a lot of experiences to have and learn from those type of sugar daddy girls, because in fact those women DO neeed someone who they can actually relate with and be real with. So in this case you described here, YES you can actually HELP a girl in this way. So thanks for pointing that out and making that clear.

Manwhore wrote:
No one should let their lives be run by some moral code dictated to them. Especially one as one-sided and naive as this. Live your own ethical code. No I do not actively seduce married women, but it's not a deal breaker either. I'll make my own decisions.

Totally feel you on this, this would be a chodey code if it was just black and white ... But its not. I hope my clarification helped explain that.

__________________

Offline
Joined: 02/04/2015
AlphaPro wrote: it's

AlphaPro wrote:
it's certainly more complicated  than what you say swoll. i was talking to my best female friend a while ago, and she said that her therapist kinda hinted at going for some cheating. she's in releationship for seven years and the therapist thinks (and so do i) that it's already over and she just hasn't gathered the strenght to break up with her bf. so the thinking is - that she might use some guy as a bridge out of a relationship. it doesn't even need to be and probably won't be serious. she just needs to make the move. and it's actually a pattern i've seen around myself quite a few times.
i was talking about similar topic with my therapist a while back and she said something like: "so you think that women have no say in this? that they won't be able to take care of themselves?" and to a degree she's right. if a girl is a slut, you won't change a thing and if she's in a loving relationship, she will hopefully ignore you.
which reminds me of one more talk - with an older girl i used to date a long time ago. she's now about 38 and we talked about relationships and sexual monogamy...and she said something along the lines that sex with one partner eventually becomes boring so having something on the side is ok but you always need to put the family first (she's married and with a kid).

​100% agree. This is an inciteful responce ALpha and I would back up anyone who said that. I thought that kinda thing goes without saying but good call because there probably are a lot of people on this forum who don't understand this distinguishment. I mean how would you guys know I knew that, so ya, should've clarified that originally. 

Good post bro
.
.
.
.

tolle wrote:

Some girls are just going to cheat and I have no issues with being that guy.  The hottest girl I've fucked had a boyfriend she didn't bring up until right before we fucked.  I wasn't some evil manipulator convincing an innocent girl to cheat on her boyfriend lol.  She wanted some holiday dick, and I was the guy to provide that.  No way I'm going to feel guilty about that. 

 see the edit on the OP

Well that's cool man.  If thats the case for girls you have banged then I guess we have different ways/criteria of measuring "hot".

Cholo wrote:
Swollguys post would make sense in rsdnation, guys over there seem to do all kinds of shit just to boost their ego. 

I used to hook up with a girl who had a boyfriend but i liked her and she liked me which was VERY AWESOME, i didn't  "seduce her into cheating"

I don't go on RSD so I wouldn't know what you mean by that. I only post here because this community has the most real  shit that is actually applicable.

In terms of the ego posting thing... The whole point of the article was to not fuck up a GOOD relationship just for the sake of doing so..That is an ego move.. Because a lot of guys learning pick up want to do that because they think its some "game hall of fame" type move. That would be an ego move that fucks you up in the long run.

.
.
.

FINAL NOTE TO INITIAL COMMENTS:

I hope that helps yall understand what I was intending when I wrote this article. I appreciate everyone's feedback and this is helping me improve my writing and communication skills.

I am glad we are all on the same page for the most part.. 

Gettting girls in fucked relationships, in need of a real partner, or have other circumstances like that makes everything different. 

I go on these forums because I personally believe this community has the best bunch of heads out of any other resource for this kind of thing that I have found so far. MW puts a lot of time and passion into improving people and going out of his way to make things better for everyone.

That being said, this article is here to target a specific type of woman/situation and game paradigm that I BELIEVE should be acknowledged on this forum. This forum is good and has a lot of high caliber people on here.

I am not saying I know everything, I really don't know shit.

I am just trying to do my part to help increase the standards of this forum and express an opinion that I believe can make MW's site an even more reputable source.

Thank you for reading if you got this far and I hope you all can see eye-to-eye with me on this now..

 

__________________

JackofDiamonds's picture
Offline
Joined: 10/01/2014
Maybe dont title your threads

Maybe dont title your threads "Pro Wisdom" lol thats a big name to live up too. I understand what you mean though. I got this girls number the other other day off a solid interaction, everything was smooth. She had to go though. I was hitting her up throughout the whole but she wasnt hitting me back, turns out she was in a committed relationship, she just happened to get caught up in the moment. Most girls will follow the arousing stimulation. The emotions always overtake the logical mind. But like MW said, sometimes these women dont even tell you that theyre in a commited realtionship! But yeah you really cant generalize something like this, its highly likely you will have future experiences that will change your mind on this subject. Its good that you put your thoughts out there though.

Offline
Joined: 01/18/2012
I definitely wish things were

I definitely wish things were different, there was a time I took marriage very seriously, I just simply can't anymore. And it's just as much men's faults as it is women's. But no I get zero joy out of "tooling" some guy who doesn't have a clue his woman's getting other dicks. I hate the pain it causes, if I didn't have so much compassion in this area I don't think I could be a dating coach. But yeah if some hottie's running around and I can plainly see what's up, I'm going to throw my cock in her for sure. 

__________________

I go in and I'm crisp, clean and my vocals are fucking coming out like music. - Anonymous MW student

- Autismus Terminus Finis (Root Cause/Cure of Autism Epidemic)

- Called Off My Wedding & Other Turn Tail Signs Of The American Male

Tap Or Click For Personal Coaching Information

Offline
Joined: 09/18/2014
Manwhore wrote: I definitely

Manwhore wrote:
I definitely wish things were different, there was a time I took marriage very seriously, I just simply can't anymore. And it's just as much men's faults as it is women's. But no I get zero joy out of "tooling" some guy who doesn't have a clue his woman's getting other dicks. I hate the pain it causes, if I didn't have so much compassion in this area I don't think I could be a dating coach. But yeah if some hottie's running around and I can plainly see what's up, I'm going to throw my cock in her for sure. 

that's it i think. everything should depend on the situation... people shouldn't learn pickup to be imoral dicks who will do anything to sleep with any women. but if you know that she just wants it, and the question is if it's you or someone else... then why not.

the morality comes back into play when we're talking about people you know. and it's a line i've been thinking about a lot. i used to think i'd never do that to people i know (i am talking about people who are not my friends, that i simply know) but my therapist talked me out of it lol. i am still pretty sure that i'd never do that to a friend though. that is just wrong and weak.

Offline
Joined: 02/04/2015
I appreciate everyone's

I appreciate everyone's feedback. I tottally understand everyone is different, and every situation is different.

But for me, I can sleep good at night knowing that I won't intentially mess up good relationships. As far as for girls in the other situations, I guess I will just have to wait and see.

I guess my verson of this thing called life is just being the best person / most virtuous I can be; and let my "game" evolve naturally. Everyone has a different approach, thats mine.

There is no right or wrong way to do things because in the end we all create our own realities anyways.

And MW I feel what you say homie and I know you are out there only going for good intentions.

Mainly this article is written for the top players out there who DONT have those good intentions.

__________________