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Ahh.. you handled this completely wrong. Which sucks because it's obvious to me you are capable of much more. Derp
Two things, 1) change her mood, not her mind 2) You do not argue her frame, you introduce yours and qualify her. You don't try to argue against her silly ass qualifications. Geezez. You will always lose. Because they are like sobriety tests.. if you take them you fail. The real test isn't if you pass the test, it's if you fall for taking the test in the first place. That was really dumb bro.
A couple months back I'm hitting on a beautiful little blue eyed dark haired 21 yr old. She asks how old I am I tell her, she's about to say I'm too old, I can sense it.. but before she can I say.. "Yeah you might just be too young.. you can't handle me. Sorry boo"
Twenty minutes later she's sucking my cock in the parking lot before I stick it in her 21 yr old little pussy and make her cry.
I go in and I'm crisp, clean and my vocals are fucking coming out like music. - Anonymous MW student
- Autismus Terminus Finis (Root Cause/Cure of Autism Epidemic)
- Called Off My Wedding & Other Turn Tail Signs Of The American Male
Yeah, damn, this is basiccc stuff, fellas - always good to put a reminder out there about it.
lol bet you won't make this mistake again ; )
Awesome stuff, thanks fellas. I defintiely bought into her frame and was engaging her way too logically, I figured maybe making her feel lame about her stupid rules would cause her to reconsider, but that's still coming from the seller frame. By the time I wrote "you would never date a younger guy" I was done. Should have re-asserted the buyer frame and like you said, qualified her with some push-pull. I think I knew this at one point and forgot it. I'll try to re-engage at some point and see what happens.
Yes it's still fully recoverable.
I go in and I'm crisp, clean and my vocals are fucking coming out like music. - Anonymous MW student
- Autismus Terminus Finis (Root Cause/Cure of Autism Epidemic)
- Called Off My Wedding & Other Turn Tail Signs Of The American Male
Me: TGIF :)
Her: Yay!!!
Me: I love your enthusiasm ;)
Her: How are you?
Me: Super hungry lol
Me: I'm good how are you?
Her: I'm good! Busy moving...what did u eat?
Me: Breakfast of champions: (picture of steak)
Her: Ugh I'm vegetarian!
Me: Uh oh
Her: Lolz
Me: How can you be a vegatarian
Me: You are missing out on glorious protein
Her: animal lover pet peeve
Her: :)
Me: I love animals too
Me: Especially the way they taste lol
Her: Haha i know I know
Me: What are you doing tonight
Her: I was supp to go on a date
Me: Sounds like fun :)
Me: Are you thirsty? Let's grab a drink
Her: Soooo thirsty
Me: I know a sweet place on sawtelle we can try
Her: I caaaaan't u better find a replacement though
Me: Lol you are right, it wouldn't be good
Me: I would drink you under the table
Her: Hahahahahahaha
Me: We both know it's true
Me: Consider yourself lucky- I am saving you the embarrassment
Her: I would have expected that from you
Me: What's your drink
Her: Dirty martini
Me: Yikes
Me: You are 36 right
Her: Yep
Me: Yeah that is definitely an older woman's drink
Her: You're too young to understand
Me: Yes I am young and active, I doubt you could keep up with me
Her: Apparently not
Me: Lol where's your confidence
Her: I'm just trying not to turn you on
Me: I do like confident women
Me: So good job so far lol
Her: I'm srsly NOT trying to impress you
Me: Lol ok
Me: Well I"m unimpressed by you so mission accomplished
Definitely made headway here, thought it was funny she was qualifying herself by telling me she was not qualifying herself haha. Still some seriously complicated games going on at the end there, I was pretty stumped at what the right type of response would be and thought about the last few texts before I sent them. She hasn't responded. I'll float back in in a couple days and say what's up.
You made a teeny bit of headway then fucked it up again.
I go in and I'm crisp, clean and my vocals are fucking coming out like music. - Anonymous MW student
- Autismus Terminus Finis (Root Cause/Cure of Autism Epidemic)
- Called Off My Wedding & Other Turn Tail Signs Of The American Male
Haha, baby steps. Funny when I make any progress I fee like I just broke through a brick wall, even though nothing comes of it.
What would have been the best response to "Her: I'm srsly NOT trying to impress you"
I feel like this is a needy/qualifying text from her, but it messed me up since I was in "don't validate her" mode. Would it have been good to turn it in the sexual direction at this point? Pull her back in after pushing her away?
Buddha you've got some "qualification" type text convos on here don't you?
I go in and I'm crisp, clean and my vocals are fucking coming out like music. - Anonymous MW student
- Autismus Terminus Finis (Root Cause/Cure of Autism Epidemic)
- Called Off My Wedding & Other Turn Tail Signs Of The American Male
What's qualificaiton lol
Yeah, okay, qualification is an interesting one - most beginners fuck it up becuase there's this "phase" that people go through with pickup where they don't realize that the girls they are interacting with, are normal, socialized people and can see when shit is weird and contrived...
You can't make this stuff blatant.... or it CAN be blatant but that's only if you have compliance first and you don't have to bring it to her attention - that's not the point...
I can't really think of specifics off the top of my head
I also hate having to respond to specific texts, cause a lot of this shit that you guys get, this is LITERALLY what I would do:
1. Not respond
2. Wait like MINIMUM 2-4 days
3. Respond with something completely different that just ignores wtvr was said and resets the interaction
What about some of your old skool ones where girls were brats and we spanked them and made them drink cum
I go in and I'm crisp, clean and my vocals are fucking coming out like music. - Anonymous MW student
- Autismus Terminus Finis (Root Cause/Cure of Autism Epidemic)
- Called Off My Wedding & Other Turn Tail Signs Of The American Male
This took place around 1 in the afternoon today while I was waiting for a girl to get to my place:
Me: Saw this and thought of you (E-card saying "I think we should just be friends with sexual tension)
Her: You can't forget me, can you?
Me: I guess not
Her: What are we going to do about it?
Me: I'm at a loss. What do you suggest?
Her: Nothing
Me: You must run into this problem all the time ;)
Her: Why?
Me: Because of your sexy accent
Her: You are not the problem your age is. You should change it
Me: Ok I'm actually 31 lol
Her: Lol how you don't have a girl?
Me: How come you don't have a guy?
Her: I don't see smth I like
Me: You're picky
Me: Your accent is literally all I remember about you at this point
Me: I kinda of forget what you look like haha
Her: I used to be I'm more realistic now. You forgot! Lol
Me: I remember this much: tan, brunette, around 5'4'', red lipstick
Her: Loooool
Me: Accurate?
Her: Yes
Her: Were u drunk?
Me: No I don't drink
Me: I'm sure you forget what I look like too
Her: Bradley Cooper
Me: Lol ok
Her: Why don't you drink?
Me: Grew out of it
Me: I have occasional drinks but don't get drunk
Her: Ok
Me: What about you?
Her: I drink
Me: Like a true Moroccan haha
Me: Do you have a lot of sex?
Her: No
Her: U probably do, like a true American
Me: But you are beautiful
Me: You can get it whenever you want
Her: But you don't remember what I look like
Me: I remember thinking you are beautiful and being attracted to you
Her: I don't have sex just to have sex I need to be turned on mentally
Me: Is that difficult to do
Her: Do you meet a lot of intelligent people?
Me: Intelligence is subjective
Her: There is a standard
Me: And you don't meet a lot of guys who meet it
Her: Not really. You do
Me: Of course I do
Me: ;)
Her: Lol
Me: You'll be happy to learn that you meet my intelligence standards as well
Her: Very happy
Me: And the sex would be great
Her: I'm kinda turned on
Me: Not as turned on as you will be when I take you
Her: This is no bueno
Me: Lol
Her: Send me a pic of you
Me: You first
Her: Lol u serious! See that's why I don't date younger guys
Me: I thought you remember what I look like
Her: I do
Me: (Pic of myself with my shirt off haha)
Her: I didn't say a naked pic
Me: That is met right now
Me: Chillin on the couch
Her: I know I'm kidding
Me: Your turn
Her: (Picture of her at work -- goddamn she is sexy)
Her: This is me chilling at the office
Me: Lookin sexy at work
Me: God I want to fuck you
Her: Omg
Me: I just wanna slide my arm under your legs and pick you up
Her: Are we sexting?
Me: Yes
Me: I lean down and softly bite into your neck as I curl you up into me
Her: You're so horny
Me: Yeah your picture is doing it to me
Her: That's not even a sexy pic
Me: It's sexy babe
Me: But I'm sure you have more sexy ones
Her: Haha no I don't
Me: You should take some
Her: When was the last time u got laid?
Me: Sunday. You?
Her: With who?
Me: A prostitute I met in Tijuana
Her: Lol really?
Me: No lol
Her: Who then?
Me: You never answered my question
Her: Last month
Me: Jesus
Me: Come over some time I'll help you out ;)
Her: Help me!
Me: It will be so hot
Her: I meant help me??!!
Me: I will press your legs down firmly... And run my hand up between your thighs as I warmly kiss your sweet little lips
Her: U should write soft porn script
Me: Mmmhmm yeah
Me: I like taking your sexy lil legs and pinning the back so yer lil Kitty is exposed to me and it's all mind and I look down into your eyes as I slide inside you
Her: Lol
So where do I go from here?
last time a girl told me she's younger than me I responded
with "I know, I know but love happens" and she never brought
it up again. I guess you could use "shit happens" too lol
It's hilarious how guys just copy MW's exact sexting sequence from one convo lol.
she seems pretty set on not meeting and time just keeps elapsing. I would try to get her on the phone
It's hilarious how guys just copy MW's exact sexting sequence from one convo lol.she seems pretty set on not meeting and time just keeps elapsing. I would try to get her on the phone
That's actually a good idea that hadn't occurred to me, haha. Texted her a little bit again today but feels like running in circles at this point. I shall call her.
Her: What are we going to do about it?
Me: I'm at a loss. What do you suggest?
What the FUCK is that dude. Gawdammit that was so weak and gay. Fucking game set match, she will apparently have to find dick elsewhere. I am sorry, and so is she
I go in and I'm crisp, clean and my vocals are fucking coming out like music. - Anonymous MW student
- Autismus Terminus Finis (Root Cause/Cure of Autism Epidemic)
- Called Off My Wedding & Other Turn Tail Signs Of The American Male
Her: What are we going to do about it?
Me: I'm at a loss. What do you suggest?
What the FUCK is that dude. Gawdammit that was so weak and gay. Fucking game set match, she will apparently have to find dick elsewhere. I am sorry, and so is she
I disagree man I don't think I lost it there. What am I supposed to say -- "I am going to fuck you hard" or some shit? This is three texts in after I hadn't texted her in more than a week. I doubt she would have been that receptive to that kind of talk that quickly. Probably would have scared her off -- keep in mind our convos had never been sexual up to that point. I was also at a point where I didn't care since I had another girl on her way to my place who I fucked for several hours that day and I think that was reflective in those texts -- it was all coming from a place of "I don't care if I see you or not" which clearly amped her attraction for me since by the end she was asking me to send pictures. I had been borderline needy trying to get her out before, this convo was a step in the opposite direction which I think was effective. Still no meetup though, but whatev.
Manwhore wrote:
Her: What are we going to do about it?
Me: I'm at a loss. What do you suggest?
What the FUCK is that dude. Gawdammit that was so weak and gay. Fucking game set match, she will apparently have to find dick elsewhere. I am sorry, and so is she
I disagree man I don't think I lost it there. What am I supposed to say -- "I am going to fuck you hard" or some shit? This is three texts in after I hadn't texted her in more than a week. I doubt she would have been that receptive to that kind of talk that quickly. Probably would have scared her off -- keep in mind our convos had never been sexual up to that point. I was also at a point where I didn't care since I had another girl on her way to my place who I fucked for several hours that day and I think that was reflective in those texts -- it was all coming from a place of "I don't care if I see you or not" which clearly amped her attraction for me since by the end she was asking me to send pictures. I had been borderline needy trying to get her out before, this convo was a step in the opposite direction which I think was effective. Still no meetup though, but whatev.
The problem is that she is focusing on the age differential. She's zoning in on the fact that you're way younger than her so when you can't be a man and make a firm decision it just reinforces her belief that this won't work. You should not have asked her for her opinion. You didn't have to make it sexual either but I agree with MW, that was pretty weak. You should read "Way of the Superior Man" by David Deida. There's a free e-book you can download. Great book and it explores this type of stuff in much greater detail.
You didn't lose her but you were making good headway and now you're back to square one. This girl needs to see you can step up and fucking own her. That's what older women want, and they're extremely receptive to it once you break down their initial barriers.
laguy474 wrote:
Manwhore wrote:
Her: What are we going to do about it?
Me: I'm at a loss. What do you suggest?
What the FUCK is that dude. Gawdammit that was so weak and gay. Fucking game set match, she will apparently have to find dick elsewhere. I am sorry, and so is she
I disagree man I don't think I lost it there. What am I supposed to say -- "I am going to fuck you hard" or some shit? This is three texts in after I hadn't texted her in more than a week. I doubt she would have been that receptive to that kind of talk that quickly. Probably would have scared her off -- keep in mind our convos had never been sexual up to that point. I was also at a point where I didn't care since I had another girl on her way to my place who I fucked for several hours that day and I think that was reflective in those texts -- it was all coming from a place of "I don't care if I see you or not" which clearly amped her attraction for me since by the end she was asking me to send pictures. I had been borderline needy trying to get her out before, this convo was a step in the opposite direction which I think was effective. Still no meetup though, but whatev.
The problem is that she is focusing on the age differential. She's zoning in on the fact that you're way younger than her so when you can't be a man and make a firm decision it just reinforces her belief that this won't work. You should not have asked her for her opinion. You didn't have to make it sexual either but I agree with MW, that was pretty weak. You should read "Way of the Superior Man" by David Deida. There's a free e-book you can download. Great book and it explores this type of stuff in much greater detail.
You didn't lose her but you were making good headway and now you're back to square one. This girl needs to see you can step up and fucking own her. That's what older women want, and they're extremely receptive to it once you break down their initial barriers.
Her: I'm kinda turned on
Me: Not as turned on as you will be when I take you
I've read the book. But probably I haven't fully assumed the frame you're talking about.
Her: What are we going to do about it?
Me: I'm at a loss. What do you suggest?
What the FUCK is that dude. Gawdammit that was so weak and gay. Fucking game set match, she will apparently have to find dick elsewhere. I am sorry, and so is she
Oh SHIT...
yeah... that's bad : /