Shit tests and cockblockers

This is actually a pretty typical scenario and in fact something I'm addressing in this last chapter of the text game book I'm writing. Here's an excerpt that deals with it. Obviously the context is a bit different but the underlying themes remain the same:

The short answer is you need to become a better "asshole". Show them a bit of pain, e.g. give them a taste of their own medicine. 

Thank You Manwhore, much appreciated.  

I am learning to be myself with women and find it difficult to come up with answers quickly without appeasing.  I think there is a subconscious nervousness there, for example, I have to be careful not to show any emotion.   Last time I told a woman to not interrupt me, and that it was rude, my boss sent me to occupational health for cognitive behavioural therapy!  Said I was being aggressive.  While the women can holler and laugh out really loud, I dare not do it, or they will be on me like a ton of bricks. 

Ahh! Which boss, the male one or female? That's obnoxious, standing up for yourself gets you sent on timeout. Beautiful.

You need to learn to actually show emotion.. appropriately. You were obviously right in this situation you just didn't handle things correctly. And it's also possible what happened is since you're trying so hard not to show emotion, when it finally slipped out it was like an animal unleashed. Not dangerous necessarily, just a bit uncouth ;) There are ways of vocally and tonally projecting yourself when someone is being rude and you need to set them straight.. and there are ways of defending yourself when a boss tries to get up your ass and you know you're right. 

Would it mindfuck you to know that your boss decided to punish you when he knew full well you weren't in the wrong? Because he knew handing you a pink slip would be EASIER and  have lesser repercussions than placing the blame in the right place and have to deal with this other person who's apparently a bigger pain in the ass than you. Typical corporate breach of integrity, happens all day long even in the military. 

Female boss of course One of my supervisors, also female, but much more level headed, told me that she sent me there because it was the only way she could get to me emotionally.  As for the woman I told off, she is fine now, and one of the few I never get any shit from. 

Occy health gave me an assessment.  I said I had short-term memory loss and all the overtalking was verbal overload.   The occy health doctor who was extremely co-operative, probably because I had only lost only one day in four and a half years, said that all this overtalking should not be happening in any workplace, regardless.  He wrote a list of things out on my report to say they should not overtalk me, must talk one at time and at a reasonable speed and volume, etc.  etc.   The boss got all the women together and told them to stop all this loudness and overtalking etc., she had no choice, it was because it was on the report.   I only found out about it a few weeks later.  

You are right about bottling up my emotions.  I had a well disciplined stiff old fashioned British up-bringing where emotions were simply not permitted, educated in a strict British boys grammar school, complete with uniform and head teacher with flat hat, cape and cane.  Then four years of military service.  Maybe, since, from an early age I have suppressed them, I sort of expect others to do the same and do not quite understand it when they don't.  Totally lacking in self-discipline I think to myself, get down and knock out ten.  I have become a bit of a Spok from the Starship Enterprise.  This is a bit of a problem when performing pua.  I am very good at escalation and dominance, but terrible with chatting up etc. 

My best technique is to let them talk about themselves as much as possible.  The chicks feel good about themselves after they have had a good talk and associate the feeling with me.  I usually do this while they are having a drink with me.  When the timing is right, I calmly take the glass out of her hand, put my hand on her cheek with my thumb on one side of the mouth and my little finger reaching to the neck area under the ear.  I then give a good kiss, first to make, first to break.  Then calmly put her drink back in her hand and tell her to continue with what she was saying.  It kind of blows their mind, sort of "did this really just happen to me" sort of look on their faces.  I then, after a while, take the drink off her, pull her into me, let my lips linger over hers, when she moves forward to kiss, I move back.  Again, she moves forward, I move back.  Hence escalating the tension.  Finally she gives up, then I kiss her.  She will be kissed when I want to kiss her, and on my terms.  After a while serious kissing begins.  I then say that I am uncomfortable kissing in public and we should go somewhere private.  Usually her car, or mine.  Although I only have a motorcycle now.  I escalate further in the car, then say that it is not very comfortable and we should do things properly, there is a hotel close by.  Once in the hotel room, I undress her, if she starts to undress herself, I stop her.  I tell her she is my present, and I am unwrapping her myself. When I have finished, I then push her gently onto the bed.  The rest is not suitable for the internet!

As you can see, this requires very little talking, but I think I would have more success if I could talk more openly.  There again, women see the silent but confident man as very attractive.  I really do not know, it is something I have quite a lot of difficulty with.

Daaamn that's smooth old man, gonna steal this one and maybe modify it a little bit for some extra effect ifyounomsayin'. What age are the girls you get mostly?

oh btw with you work situation, I don't know what to say I am a younger guy and generally won't put up with any abuse at work and I don't care if I lose my job because of standing up for myself. But in your case it's probably a full time job which you're very dependent on so maybe be a bit more strategic about it

Thanks for that Manwhore,  I never thought of using it outside of game.  I picked the idea off some pua site a few years ago.  When she is talking, I just say "that must have felt good" or "how did it make you feel" etc.  To be honest, I don't listen much, I am usually daydreaming because I find it all so boring.  However, I do make the effort to maintain a level of eye contact and to ask the occasional question.  I don't know why, but I have never had much of an interest in others and am very much a loner.  I know that sounds selfish, and it undoubtedly is, but its the way I am and am generally happy with myself, although for some strange reason some people seem to have a problem with me.  INTJ schizoid personality type.   I will use it in other areas of my life, and follow the advice you give above as I am sure it will help.  Much appreciated. 

It's pretty amazing that it was the therapist that did the right thing. Even through all the bullshit they recognized the truth lol. 

As far as your lack of emotions, what's happened is you've got other parts to yourself you've literally never developed. You're "old school". I was similar in the military and even for a couple years afterwards. It put me at odds with certain people in certain situations in fact there's a pretty interesting side story with RSD that coincides with this lol. The final result is I ended up having to become a more "whole" person. And I'm much happier for it. You also probably got abused by this headmaster, and maybe others, who basically punished you for expressing yourself! See where the brainwashing came in? They CREATED an automaton. Factory workers..

You want to ask yourself if you're satisfied or happy with your results and how far you want to take things in your own development. But just understand that some drunk guy would NEVER distract a girl away from talking to me. That's hilarious. I berate Mother Hens and cockblockers and overly concerned family members. I compete with better looking taller doppelgangers of myself and get the girl. It sounds like the "net" you're working with is pretty narrow.

And yes of course letting a girl talk is great, but it sounds obviously ingenuine if you're spacing out the whole time daydreaming about some other shit, lmao. Where's the authenticity? Plus.. how often has this exact scenario gone down in the last year? Where you ask questions and let a girl talk then do the facepalm face rape move? It's good I like it but it's just one move, lmao.  Plus most guys won't get this to work because they don't know how to ask questions correctly or lead conversations well enough to make this happen smoothly. Funny enough it's your unthinking dominance and purposeful sense of action that makes this whole thing happen, so in that respect you are well ahead of the curve. I just put up a short post on this earlier today actually. 

Yep, occy health doctor got it right, probably sees it all the time!

I agree with you, I am a good factory worker, although I was a self-employed electrician for 15 years.  Definitely a product of the system.

It is mainly drunks and druggies I have a problem with, some will go away quietly when I stare them down while shaking their hand, but others just do not get the hint.  When sober guys try cockblocking I use the same technique, befriend and eyeball, nearly always works. 

How often in the last year has the technique worked?  None in the last year because I have been dating this woman I spoke of earlier on.  The year before that I used it on about six occasions, as far as I can remember, four of which resulted in sex, all multiple lays (but that is more down to sex technique I think).  We must remember, I am an older man, and so much of the loud night club type stuff is not really my scene anymore.  I tend to go for online dating and meeting in a cafe.  There are many advantages I think.  She already thinks she knows you from talking on the phone, which again I let her do as much of as possible before the first date and as little as possible after sex.  She is "going on a date" in her mind and is nearly always dressed to kill and in seduction mode.  It is very cheap.  Nightclubs and beer are very expensive in the UK.  She is alone, so no cockblockers or mother hens to deal with.  Avoidance strategy, maybe, but it works.

I only pulled one from a pub that year, it was late at night after our works Christmas party, but then, I don't go out that much.

I totally agree with you, I am working a small net, I am really bad verbally and it is only body language and dominance I use. 

As for authenticity,  I am all for people becoming more decent and honest, but the reality is that it is the bad lying sons of bitches that usually get the most women.  Hitler had more panties thrown at him than Roosvelt and Churchill put together.  Stalin was a bit of hit, and there is even a song about Putin.  It goes like this, in English.  

My boyfriend has done something stupid again,

Got into a fight and drank something bad

I have thrown him out, and decided,

I now want somebody like Putin.

Every death-row inmate gets letters from love-sick women every day.

The Beatles had more panties thrown at them than you can imagine, before any woman knew whether they were authentic or not.

As I say, I am all for authenticity, but whether it helps to improve pick up skills or not...well, I have serious doubts

That's some of the dumbest shit I've ever read. 

Its all fact

Of course it's all true, but your perspective on it is so ignorant. Here's a hint.. serial killers are very genuine people. But that's not even necessarily the point I was trying to make. 

Ok, Jabronovich,

I apologise for not reading who made the replies, but there is no need for the F word. 

I think the problem is that this word "authentic" is rather abstract.  I see it as being honest and non-manipulative.   When I look around, I do not see that honest, non-manipulative guys acheive any more success than those who are not.  If fact, I see that they usually do better.  Therefore, in my mind, authenticity has no noticeable affect on someone's skills with women. 

If a woman asks you how you feel about her friend, and you answer authentically, "yes, darling, she looks absolutely stunning, I would really like to have her in my bed tonight"  you are not going to get far, you could water it down a bit, but then, you are not being truely authentic.

You need to say "yes, darling, but you look much better, I can't wait to get you into my bed tonight"  She will know you are lying, but you have also made her feel better, at least you fancy her enought to lie a little"

Of course, you could be really authentic, dump your girlfriend and ask her friend out on a date, then get punched or shot by her husband!

As the song goes:-

"Tell me lies, tell me sweet little lies,"

"Tell me, tell me lies"

As much as I would like to change my beliefs, I can only base them on whether those beliefs are based on a realistic assessment of reality or not, rather than whether or not they are considered limiting.  Being grounded in reality is very important to me, no matter how difficult it sometimes is to accept.