Shit tests and cockblockers
Hi Manwhore,
I wonder if you or someone on the forum could give me some advice. I am 53 years old and was married for 21 years. I learned to become the beta of all betas, to cut a long story short, after 21 years of her nonsense, I decided I had had enough and divorced her. After my divorce, I was getting sex most nights from her, for several months, and good sex too. During the marriage, I was lucky to get it once a month, and then she would just lie back and do nothing. Anyway, I started studying pua, and over the last few years I have got continuously better. I am now in a long term relationship with a real beauty who is a fantastic cook, I now have good food and plenty of sex whenever I want. Although I had to fuck a lot of ugly ones before I got there. Basically started on some fatties and got better ones each time. My current record speed for pulling and laying was in a pub, by the time she was half way through her pint of lager, I had kissed her in no small way, and told her I wanted to take her home. She said, "let me finish my lager" and we went straight out to a taxi and home, fucked her on the sofa within ten minutes of getting home, she stayed the night.
Now here is the issue, as I have got better at game, my life has changed in ways other than just picking up and having sex. I feel much more my own person, and stand up to others much more than I used to. But I am also finding that I have to stand up to women more than I used to, because I am getting more shit from them. Its a strange combination. I work with many women. Today I was on a training course, I sat down with legs apart in a good alpha sitting position. One of my work colleagues sat on the chair right next to me, with her shoulder up tight to mine and her legs crossed inwards, really close. She told me last week that I had been in her dreams! To which I asked her if she got wet. On the other side a woman I did not know, leaning inwards towards me, her legs crossed away, but not completely, she started convo several times, but I did not give her much attention. These signs are so positive, however, I was getting a stare from the male instructor who was much bigger than me, I eyeballed him back in a calm way, without dropping my gaze. He dropped first, he tried again later, and dropped again. No problems with him after that, although his female assistant looked me in the eyes a few times while I stood with a strong alpha stance. I did not drop for her either. She looked down and later talked to me.
As I show new confidence, it seems that some women in work are giving me a hard time. I am not rushing to every woman's whim and fancy anymore, and take the day in my stride, while some of them are stressed almost to the point of some kind of breakdown. I often make a point of ignoring them, and try to walk away from any conversation first. This is not difficult, since most conversations are a load of nonsense anyway. Yet they are giving me so much shit. I have been shouted at and told I am not doing my work, and they are finding fault in the smallest thing I do wrong. Even though they make mistakes too. I am sure my work is ok, my supervision sessions have been good, no serious issues, although there is always something. My boss gives me hostile looks, especially when she is with the other female staff, she talks to others, ignores me and sometimes tries to put me down in snide underhanded ways. Yet when we are on our own, she will often smile, and even laugh a little when I gaze into her eyes, and I know I could escalate and probably fuck her. Things are not good between her and her husband, she has told me.
My male supervisor is very skilled socially and has been very careful with everything he says, trying not to offend anyone, and trying to be an alpa male. He is a big strong guy, but I think they have finally got to him, he looks like an emotional wreck and says he has had enough. I feel sorry for him, he is a good guy, but his health is failing now, and it seems like the girls, like sharks, home in on any physical or emotional weakness and make fun of him when he is not there. Most of the other guys, no, all of the other guys in work show a kind of low spirit when dealing with the women. It is difficult to explain. They may give the right answers, but it is the tone and body language that gives away the weakness. It seems to me that even answering their silly put-downs, is in itself a sort of sign of showing deference, after all, you only need to answer to someone who is superior to you. You are, in fact, being manipulated, albeit in a very small way.
Then there is the usual half drunk guy. I have had this problem so many times, I cannot count. As soon as I am talking to a woman, and before I can pull her in for a kiss, along comes some drunken asshole, and while I am dealing with him, I lose track of the convo, and she does not wish to be in the same vicinity as some loud mouthed piss-head and walks off. Happened on the train last week, I live in the UK where this is really common. Hopefully, one day I will move back to the good old US of A and live a real life!
What I really want to know, is whether or not it is normal for pua to have to put up with all this extra crap at the same time as getting better? At 53, it is nice to have all the sex you want, despite the prostatitis, but sometimes I just wish I could have a peaceful life aswell!
This is actually a pretty typical scenario and in fact something I'm addressing in this last chapter of the text game book I'm writing. Here's an excerpt that deals with it. Obviously the context is a bit different but the underlying themes remain the same:
The short answer is you need to become a better "asshole". Show them a bit of pain, e.g. give them a taste of their own medicine.
I go in and I'm crisp, clean and my vocals are fucking coming out like music. - Anonymous MW student
- Autismus Terminus Finis (Root Cause/Cure of Autism Epidemic)
- Called Off My Wedding & Other Turn Tail Signs Of The American Male
Thank You Manwhore, much appreciated.
I am learning to be myself with women and find it difficult to come up with answers quickly without appeasing. I think there is a subconscious nervousness there, for example, I have to be careful not to show any emotion. Last time I told a woman to not interrupt me, and that it was rude, my boss sent me to occupational health for cognitive behavioural therapy! Said I was being aggressive. While the women can holler and laugh out really loud, I dare not do it, or they will be on me like a ton of bricks.
Ahh! Which boss, the male one or female? That's obnoxious, standing up for yourself gets you sent on timeout. Beautiful.
You need to learn to actually show emotion.. appropriately. You were obviously right in this situation you just didn't handle things correctly. And it's also possible what happened is since you're trying so hard not to show emotion, when it finally slipped out it was like an animal unleashed. Not dangerous necessarily, just a bit uncouth ;) There are ways of vocally and tonally projecting yourself when someone is being rude and you need to set them straight.. and there are ways of defending yourself when a boss tries to get up your ass and you know you're right.
Would it mindfuck you to know that your boss decided to punish you when he knew full well you weren't in the wrong? Because he knew handing you a pink slip would be EASIER and have lesser repercussions than placing the blame in the right place and have to deal with this other person who's apparently a bigger pain in the ass than you. Typical corporate breach of integrity, happens all day long even in the military.
I go in and I'm crisp, clean and my vocals are fucking coming out like music. - Anonymous MW student
- Autismus Terminus Finis (Root Cause/Cure of Autism Epidemic)
- Called Off My Wedding & Other Turn Tail Signs Of The American Male
Female boss of course One of my supervisors, also female, but much more level headed, told me that she sent me there because it was the only way she could get to me emotionally. As for the woman I told off, she is fine now, and one of the few I never get any shit from.
Occy health gave me an assessment. I said I had short-term memory loss and all the overtalking was verbal overload. The occy health doctor who was extremely co-operative, probably because I had only lost only one day in four and a half years, said that all this overtalking should not be happening in any workplace, regardless. He wrote a list of things out on my report to say they should not overtalk me, must talk one at time and at a reasonable speed and volume, etc. etc. The boss got all the women together and told them to stop all this loudness and overtalking etc., she had no choice, it was because it was on the report. I only found out about it a few weeks later.
You are right about bottling up my emotions. I had a well disciplined stiff old fashioned British up-bringing where emotions were simply not permitted, educated in a strict British boys grammar school, complete with uniform and head teacher with flat hat, cape and cane. Then four years of military service. Maybe, since, from an early age I have suppressed them, I sort of expect others to do the same and do not quite understand it when they don't. Totally lacking in self-discipline I think to myself, get down and knock out ten. I have become a bit of a Spok from the Starship Enterprise. This is a bit of a problem when performing pua. I am very good at escalation and dominance, but terrible with chatting up etc.
My best technique is to let them talk about themselves as much as possible. The chicks feel good about themselves after they have had a good talk and associate the feeling with me. I usually do this while they are having a drink with me. When the timing is right, I calmly take the glass out of her hand, put my hand on her cheek with my thumb on one side of the mouth and my little finger reaching to the neck area under the ear. I then give a good kiss, first to make, first to break. Then calmly put her drink back in her hand and tell her to continue with what she was saying. It kind of blows their mind, sort of "did this really just happen to me" sort of look on their faces. I then, after a while, take the drink off her, pull her into me, let my lips linger over hers, when she moves forward to kiss, I move back. Again, she moves forward, I move back. Hence escalating the tension. Finally she gives up, then I kiss her. She will be kissed when I want to kiss her, and on my terms. After a while serious kissing begins. I then say that I am uncomfortable kissing in public and we should go somewhere private. Usually her car, or mine. Although I only have a motorcycle now. I escalate further in the car, then say that it is not very comfortable and we should do things properly, there is a hotel close by. Once in the hotel room, I undress her, if she starts to undress herself, I stop her. I tell her she is my present, and I am unwrapping her myself. When I have finished, I then push her gently onto the bed. The rest is not suitable for the internet!
As you can see, this requires very little talking, but I think I would have more success if I could talk more openly. There again, women see the silent but confident man as very attractive. I really do not know, it is something I have quite a lot of difficulty with.
Female boss of course One of my supervisors, also female, but much more level headed, told me that she sent me there because it was the only way she could get to me emotionally. As for the woman I told off, she is fine now, and one of the few I never get any shit from.Occy health gave me an assessment. I said I had short-term memory loss and all the overtalking was verbal overload. The occy health doctor who was extremely co-operative, probably because I had only lost only one day in four and a half years, said that all this overtalking should not be happening in any workplace, regardless. He wrote a list of things out on my report to say they should not overtalk me, must talk one at time and at a reasonable speed and volume, etc. etc. The boss got all the women together and told them to stop all this loudness and overtalking etc., she had no choice, it was because it was on the report. I only found out about it a few weeks later.
You are right about bottling up my emotions. I had a well disciplined stiff old fashioned British up-bringing where emotions were simply not permitted, educated in a strict British boys grammar school, complete with uniform and head teacher with flat hat, cape and cane. Then four years of military service. Maybe, since, from an early age I have suppressed them, I sort of expect others to do the same and do not quite understand it when they don't. Totally lacking in self-discipline I think to myself, get down and knock out ten. I have become a bit of a Spok from the Starship Enterprise. This is a bit of a problem when performing pua. I am very good at escalation and dominance, but terrible with chatting up etc.
My best technique is to let them talk about themselves as much as possible. The chicks feel good about themselves after they have had a good talk and associate the feeling with me. I usually do this while they are having a drink with me. When the timing is right, I calmly take the glass out of her hand, put my hand on her cheek with my thumb on one side of the mouth and my little finger reaching to the neck area under the ear. I then give a good kiss, first to make, first to break. Then calmly put her drink back in her hand and tell her to continue with what she was saying. It kind of blows their mind, sort of "did this really just happen to me" sort of look on their faces. I then, after a while, take the drink off her, pull her into me, let my lips linger over hers, when she moves forward to kiss, I move back. Again, she moves forward, I move back. Hence escalating the tension. Finally she gives up, then I kiss her. She will be kissed when I want to kiss her, and on my terms. After a while serious kissing begins. I then say that I am uncomfortable kissing in public and we should go somewhere private. Usually her car, or mine. Although I only have a motorcycle now. I escalate further in the car, then say that it is not very comfortable and we should do things properly, there is a hotel close by. Once in the hotel room, I undress her, if she starts to undress herself, I stop her. I tell her she is my present, and I am unwrapping her myself. When I have finished, I then push her gently onto the bed. The rest is not suitable for the internet!
As you can see, this requires very little talking, but I think I would have more success if I could talk more openly. There again, women see the silent but confident man as very attractive. I really do not know, it is something I have quite a lot of difficulty with.
Daaamn that's smooth old man, gonna steal this one and maybe modify it a little bit for some extra effect ifyounomsayin'. What age are the girls you get mostly?
oh btw with you work situation, I don't know what to say I am a younger guy and generally won't put up with any abuse at work and I don't care if I lose my job because of standing up for myself. But in your case it's probably a full time job which you're very dependent on so maybe be a bit more strategic about it
My best technique is to let them talk about themselves as much as possible. The chicks feel good about themselves after they have had a good talk and associate the feeling with me. I usually do this while they are having a drink with me.....As you can see, this requires very little talking, but I think I would have more success if I could talk more openly. There again, women see the silent but confident man as very attractive. I really do not know, it is something I have quite a lot of difficulty with.
This is actually a really great social skill you uncovered here - asking people about themselves and listening to them completely in the present moment. No thoughts or judgements just complete still listening to others with a genuine interest. This goes for all people, not just women you are gaming. If you meet people and put them at ease by asking them all about themselves (which is the ego's favorite topic), you gain their friendship effortlessly - they automatically like you and enjoy your presence even though they don't know why and you've never really said anything. They then become naturally interested in you and develop a strong bond.
You can do this for any person, in fact do it for all people you meet as a practice and a habit. People will find you incredibly charming and everyone will go out of their way to do favors for you. This skill is very nice to have especially when speaking to prospective business partners, clients, employers, etc. Just always remember to make your first priority creating a friendship rather than going to get something from people - you give your friendship by listening to others and genuinely being interested in them. Always go to give your full awareness and attention to others, which is one of greatest gifts you can give to people (in an unconscious world where everyone waits for their turn to speak).
Read the book The Power of Eye Contact to get a better understanding of what's happening in interactions when people become charmed by you and develop natural infatuations. It's a skill that can be learned by anyone, people like Bill Clinton have a natural ability to deeply charm anyone he comes across - definitely a big reason he gained enough popularity to become president. Just to give you an idea of the power this skill holds.
Basically, ask people questions about themselves and be genuinely interested, keep all the focus on them, and just feel good and grateful for the opportunity to learn and listen, practicing being present. Stop all your judgements of other people, live completely in the Now. (Seeing positive outcomes for all people helps to stop creating judgements and opinions in your mind).
Thanks for that Manwhore, I never thought of using it outside of game. I picked the idea off some pua site a few years ago. When she is talking, I just say "that must have felt good" or "how did it make you feel" etc. To be honest, I don't listen much, I am usually daydreaming because I find it all so boring. However, I do make the effort to maintain a level of eye contact and to ask the occasional question. I don't know why, but I have never had much of an interest in others and am very much a loner. I know that sounds selfish, and it undoubtedly is, but its the way I am and am generally happy with myself, although for some strange reason some people seem to have a problem with me. INTJ schizoid personality type. I will use it in other areas of my life, and follow the advice you give above as I am sure it will help. Much appreciated.
Female boss of course One of my supervisors, also female, but much more level headed, told me that she sent me there because it was the only way she could get to me emotionally. As for the woman I told off, she is fine now, and one of the few I never get any shit from.Occy health gave me an assessment. I said I had short-term memory loss and all the overtalking was verbal overload. The occy health doctor who was extremely co-operative, probably because I had only lost only one day in four and a half years, said that all this overtalking should not be happening in any workplace, regardless. He wrote a list of things out on my report to say they should not overtalk me, must talk one at time and at a reasonable speed and volume, etc. etc. The boss got all the women together and told them to stop all this loudness and overtalking etc., she had no choice, it was because it was on the report. I only found out about it a few weeks later.
You are right about bottling up my emotions. I had a well disciplined stiff old fashioned British up-bringing where emotions were simply not permitted, educated in a strict British boys grammar school, complete with uniform and head teacher with flat hat, cape and cane. Then four years of military service. Maybe, since, from an early age I have suppressed them, I sort of expect others to do the same and do not quite understand it when they don't. Totally lacking in self-discipline I think to myself, get down and knock out ten. I have become a bit of a Spok from the Starship Enterprise. This is a bit of a problem when performing pua. I am very good at escalation and dominance, but terrible with chatting up etc.
My best technique is to let them talk about themselves as much as possible. The chicks feel good about themselves after they have had a good talk and associate the feeling with me. I usually do this while they are having a drink with me. When the timing is right, I calmly take the glass out of her hand, put my hand on her cheek with my thumb on one side of the mouth and my little finger reaching to the neck area under the ear. I then give a good kiss, first to make, first to break. Then calmly put her drink back in her hand and tell her to continue with what she was saying. It kind of blows their mind, sort of "did this really just happen to me" sort of look on their faces. I then, after a while, take the drink off her, pull her into me, let my lips linger over hers, when she moves forward to kiss, I move back. Again, she moves forward, I move back. Hence escalating the tension. Finally she gives up, then I kiss her. She will be kissed when I want to kiss her, and on my terms. After a while serious kissing begins. I then say that I am uncomfortable kissing in public and we should go somewhere private. Usually her car, or mine. Although I only have a motorcycle now. I escalate further in the car, then say that it is not very comfortable and we should do things properly, there is a hotel close by. Once in the hotel room, I undress her, if she starts to undress herself, I stop her. I tell her she is my present, and I am unwrapping her myself. When I have finished, I then push her gently onto the bed. The rest is not suitable for the internet!
As you can see, this requires very little talking, but I think I would have more success if I could talk more openly. There again, women see the silent but confident man as very attractive. I really do not know, it is something I have quite a lot of difficulty with.
It's pretty amazing that it was the therapist that did the right thing. Even through all the bullshit they recognized the truth lol.
As far as your lack of emotions, what's happened is you've got other parts to yourself you've literally never developed. You're "old school". I was similar in the military and even for a couple years afterwards. It put me at odds with certain people in certain situations in fact there's a pretty interesting side story with RSD that coincides with this lol. The final result is I ended up having to become a more "whole" person. And I'm much happier for it. You also probably got abused by this headmaster, and maybe others, who basically punished you for expressing yourself! See where the brainwashing came in? They CREATED an automaton. Factory workers..
You want to ask yourself if you're satisfied or happy with your results and how far you want to take things in your own development. But just understand that some drunk guy would NEVER distract a girl away from talking to me. That's hilarious. I berate Mother Hens and cockblockers and overly concerned family members. I compete with better looking taller doppelgangers of myself and get the girl. It sounds like the "net" you're working with is pretty narrow.
And yes of course letting a girl talk is great, but it sounds obviously ingenuine if you're spacing out the whole time daydreaming about some other shit, lmao. Where's the authenticity? Plus.. how often has this exact scenario gone down in the last year? Where you ask questions and let a girl talk then do the facepalm face rape move? It's good I like it but it's just one move, lmao. Plus most guys won't get this to work because they don't know how to ask questions correctly or lead conversations well enough to make this happen smoothly. Funny enough it's your unthinking dominance and purposeful sense of action that makes this whole thing happen, so in that respect you are well ahead of the curve. I just put up a short post on this earlier today actually.
I go in and I'm crisp, clean and my vocals are fucking coming out like music. - Anonymous MW student
- Autismus Terminus Finis (Root Cause/Cure of Autism Epidemic)
- Called Off My Wedding & Other Turn Tail Signs Of The American Male
Yep, occy health doctor got it right, probably sees it all the time!
I agree with you, I am a good factory worker, although I was a self-employed electrician for 15 years. Definitely a product of the system.
It is mainly drunks and druggies I have a problem with, some will go away quietly when I stare them down while shaking their hand, but others just do not get the hint. When sober guys try cockblocking I use the same technique, befriend and eyeball, nearly always works.
How often in the last year has the technique worked? None in the last year because I have been dating this woman I spoke of earlier on. The year before that I used it on about six occasions, as far as I can remember, four of which resulted in sex, all multiple lays (but that is more down to sex technique I think). We must remember, I am an older man, and so much of the loud night club type stuff is not really my scene anymore. I tend to go for online dating and meeting in a cafe. There are many advantages I think. She already thinks she knows you from talking on the phone, which again I let her do as much of as possible before the first date and as little as possible after sex. She is "going on a date" in her mind and is nearly always dressed to kill and in seduction mode. It is very cheap. Nightclubs and beer are very expensive in the UK. She is alone, so no cockblockers or mother hens to deal with. Avoidance strategy, maybe, but it works.
I only pulled one from a pub that year, it was late at night after our works Christmas party, but then, I don't go out that much.
I totally agree with you, I am working a small net, I am really bad verbally and it is only body language and dominance I use.
As for authenticity, I am all for people becoming more decent and honest, but the reality is that it is the bad lying sons of bitches that usually get the most women. Hitler had more panties thrown at him than Roosvelt and Churchill put together. Stalin was a bit of hit, and there is even a song about Putin. It goes like this, in English.
My boyfriend has done something stupid again,
Got into a fight and drank something bad
I have thrown him out, and decided,
I now want somebody like Putin.
Every death-row inmate gets letters from love-sick women every day.
The Beatles had more panties thrown at them than you can imagine, before any woman knew whether they were authentic or not.
As I say, I am all for authenticity, but whether it helps to improve pick up skills or not...well, I have serious doubts
As for authenticity, I am all for people becoming more decent and honest, but the reality is that it is the bad lying sons of bitches that usually get the most women. Hitler had more panties thrown at him than Roosvelt and Churchill put together. Stalin was a bit of hit, and there is even a song about Putin. It goes like this, in English.My boyfriend has done something stupid again,
Got into a fight and drank something bad
I have thrown him out, and decided,
I now want somebody like Putin.
Every death-row inmate gets letters from love-sick women every day.
The Beatles had more panties thrown at them than you can imagine, before any woman knew whether they were authentic or not.
As I say, I am all for authenticity, but whether it helps to improve pick up skills or not...well, I have serious doubts
That's some of the dumbest shit I've ever read.
I go in and I'm crisp, clean and my vocals are fucking coming out like music. - Anonymous MW student
- Autismus Terminus Finis (Root Cause/Cure of Autism Epidemic)
- Called Off My Wedding & Other Turn Tail Signs Of The American Male
Its all fact
Of course it's all true, but your perspective on it is so ignorant. Here's a hint.. serial killers are very genuine people. But that's not even necessarily the point I was trying to make.
I go in and I'm crisp, clean and my vocals are fucking coming out like music. - Anonymous MW student
- Autismus Terminus Finis (Root Cause/Cure of Autism Epidemic)
- Called Off My Wedding & Other Turn Tail Signs Of The American Male
Its all fact
Not true. Do yourself a favor and stop creating idiot fucking beliefs like this. All they do is put up a barrier to your success.
Let's think about this for a second: you have just created a belief that the only guys who get laid a lot are lying and abusive towards women. So you're saying, that the only way for you to achieve easy success with women is by lying and being abusive - which you are not. So you have to 'TRY' and be something you're not in order to be good with women.
Save yourself a lot of heartache, and get rid of this idiot thinking. Or go ahead and 'try' this out, see how far you get. Trust me you won't get far.
In my observation, here's what you're doing right: you've found that listening to people and keeping the focus on them alleviates any tension and anxiety, good. you've found that you can make physical moves to seduce women, good. you're seeking to grow with personal development, good.
Now here's what I would do differently in your situation: Remove idiot fucking beliefs which hold you back from gaining success in life. Change that shit to something like - guys who have to lie to women, make it difficult for themselves to get laid. On a deeper level, women are more interested in real men, who are strong within their own reality, and don't have to lie to get ahead.
As for the rest of it, I agree with MW, except it's not the stupidest shit I've read. But it's up there. Good luck
And do me a favor, read who writes the replies - I'm the one who gave you the advice on listening to people to charm and gain favor. Open up your fuckin head mate! ;)
Ok, Jabronovich,
I apologise for not reading who made the replies, but there is no need for the F word.
I think the problem is that this word "authentic" is rather abstract. I see it as being honest and non-manipulative. When I look around, I do not see that honest, non-manipulative guys acheive any more success than those who are not. If fact, I see that they usually do better. Therefore, in my mind, authenticity has no noticeable affect on someone's skills with women.
If a woman asks you how you feel about her friend, and you answer authentically, "yes, darling, she looks absolutely stunning, I would really like to have her in my bed tonight" you are not going to get far, you could water it down a bit, but then, you are not being truely authentic.
You need to say "yes, darling, but you look much better, I can't wait to get you into my bed tonight" She will know you are lying, but you have also made her feel better, at least you fancy her enought to lie a little"
Of course, you could be really authentic, dump your girlfriend and ask her friend out on a date, then get punched or shot by her husband!
As the song goes:-
"Tell me lies, tell me sweet little lies,"
"Tell me, tell me lies"
As much as I would like to change my beliefs, I can only base them on whether those beliefs are based on a realistic assessment of reality or not, rather than whether or not they are considered limiting. Being grounded in reality is very important to me, no matter how difficult it sometimes is to accept.
Ok, Jabronovich,I apologise for not reading who made the replies, but there is no need for the F word.
I think the problem is that this word "authentic" is rather abstract. I see it as being honest and non-manipulative. When I look around, I do not see that honest, non-manipulative guys acheive any more success than those who are not. If fact, I see that they usually do better. Therefore, in my mind, authenticity has no noticeable affect on someone's skills with women.
If a woman asks you how you feel about her friend, and you answer authentically, "yes, darling, she looks absolutely stunning, I would really like to have her in my bed tonight" you are not going to get far, you could water it down a bit, but then, you are not being truely authentic.
You need to say "yes, darling, but you look much better, I can't wait to get you into my bed tonight" She will know you are lying, but you have also made her feel better, at least you fancy her enought to lie a little"
Of course, you could be really authentic, dump your girlfriend and ask her friend out on a date, then get punched or shot by her husband!
As the song goes:-
"Tell me lies, tell me sweet little lies,"
"Tell me, tell me lies"
As much as I would like to change my beliefs, I can only base them on whether those beliefs are based on a realistic assessment of reality or not, rather than whether or not they are considered limiting. Being grounded in reality is very important to me, no matter how difficult it sometimes is to accept.