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I had been talking to a girl outside a nightclub for about 10minutes. She was kinda into me but wasnt open to any physical escalation. I decided to do a fake break up with her and turned my back for a couple of seconds. When i turned back to face her I noticed her eyes were as big as the fucking moon. Within the next 10second and without saying a word she grabbed my face and started aggressively making out with me, It was at this moment that my brain fucking exploded. I never realised a well timed push was so powerfull, its like I hit some crazy emotional trigger and she desperately needed to chase me/invest in me because she was now afraid she could lose me. 

So my question is how I should proceed with this girl now that we know she has that intense emotional trigger to push/pull. What adjustments would you make to your game going forward with this girl?

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I think fucking her would be

I think fucking her would be a really good adjustment to your game 

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Well she wanted to go back

Well she wanted to go back into the nightclub because she had friends in there. She told me to come with her but it was nye(this is an old set) and entry was $50 so I wasnt paying that. I didnt really know how to make her come with me instead of going back to the club. I kept telling her to come and get some sushi with me, the plan was to baby step from there all the way to my house. If i had my time again I wouldnt be persistant on the sushi, I would mix it up more and  throw in some trigger words, something like "Come, adventure time" would be a good angle change.

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Trigger words. Definitely

Trigger words. Definitely would have gotten you laid bro. Lol 

The problem with babystepping is a lot of the time it backfires. The girl wants to make sure she's getting laid, she doesn't like your babysteps. You can't trick her into leaving with you, you have to let her have a preview of the future. Some kind of overt sexual escalation, while maintaining super high value.. or some kind of social manhandling that blasts her out of her nest and into your control. None of this story sounds anywhere near good enough. 

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Yeah really good stuff dude.

Really good stuff dude.

Im only just coming to realise that sometimes chicks need to know theyre getting fucked otherwise they dont want to waste their time. Last night was a decent example of this. I was trying to pull this cute asian with my standard sushi routine and she seemed very meh about it. I realised she needed something more so I switched it up with "come, adventure time" and she looked at me with big anime eyes and said "ooh, I like adventures". However I didnt end up fucking this girl either lol. She was persistant that she needed to go and tell her black male friend whos couch shed been crashing on for free(shes travelling) that she was going to get sushi with me. I knew if she went back to him it was all over so i tried telling her that well be back in 10minutes, then I tried telling her to text him instead etc. but none of that worked(I should have logically explained that if she goes to him we wont be having adventure time?) and she walked back to him and his friends. I ended up having a little bit of an amog battle with him but I dont think i could really win in that situation. 

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You shouldn't have "logically



You shouldn't have "logically explained" anything lol.

This is the ABSOLUTE WRONG mindset to have here. What made her start chasing you? A push, right? What is a push? It is giving her an emotional low and creates attraction because you can then give her a better emoitional high later.

What does this all have in common? It's ALL EMOTIONAL. Don't sit there and try to logically argue with her. You need to push her buttons emotionally so she doesn't even need to say anything to the friends. Hell, sometimes these chicks forget there friends are even there.

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"Don't change her mind,



"Don't change her mind, change her heart." <3

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I only ran a push on the girl

I only ran a push on the girl in the OP, my last post is about a different girl. I assumed I already spiked emotion in her with "come, adventure time" so I was a bit lost in how to generate even more emotion. I thought it might have been time for a last resort logical explanation, I think todd talks about this.

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^ Pff!

^ Pff!

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Come, adventure time is like

Come, adventure time is like the weakest "emotional spike" ever.

you should've made out with her and then pulled away abruptly. Called her out for being a bad kisser. Back turned. Asked if she's not gonna fight for you. Jk I love you babe. Grabbed her again. 

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Yes I suppose that is one

Yes I suppose that is one kind of emotional spike lol. 

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It was more her reaction to

It was more her reaction to the line(anime eyes & high pitched squeel) rather than the line itself.

G-money thats a great example. Though it may seem obvious to some It never crossed my mind to use that hardcore julien shit so late in the set. Im still very new to the idea of spiking emotion so its a work in progress for me.

edit: My game is at the point where Ive become a "cool sexworthy guy" but I havnt got the outer game shit on lock yet.

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In your case, after "Come on



In your case, after "Come on adventure time!" you can always be like

"Actually....I don't know if you can keep up."

"My friend is having an afterparty it's gonna be really cool....but I don't know if you can get in ;)"

Do you see the pattern here? You're just communicating the opposite emotion to her.

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I know exactly what you're



I know exactly what you're talking about btw Mark. I used to make this mistake ALL THE TIME.

I would do something awesome and the girl would react that way. And then I was just like, "Welp, guess that's that. Game over."

That's far from the case usually. These experiences are definitely good and you're heading in the right direction by having these types of interactions.

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Good stuff man, Im really

Good stuff man, Im really excited to go out tonight now haha. Ill report back if theres any interesting sets where I do some of the things you guys have suggested,