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https://www.nbcnews.com/health/health-news/suicide-rates-are-30-percent-...

Across both sexes, all racial/ethnic groups, and all levels of urbanization.

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Ouch!  in 55 percent of the

Ouch! 

in 55 percent of the cases where there was no known mental health condition.

  • 42 percent had a relationship problem
I met a guy this year who committed suicide. Noone saw it coming. So much potential, it's crazy. Fascinating in a way how the pain-body can take over so strongly... Or not sure what's going on but definitely there could be better preventions methods/education.

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I attribute a big part of it

I attribute a big part of it to people being weak af. 

Ok, I’ll admit that life nowadays is “brutal” in some regards, but so fucking what! You have more resources to deal with it now more than ever. 

“Boohoo, I have no money, love doesn’t really exist, everyone’s life on social media looks sooo much cooler than mine!” 

Keep killing yourselves weaklings, while I go get what I want from life, which isn’t that much. Maybe that’s your problem. You people expect way too much out of life.

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Ha! In the end a nihilist?

Ha! In the end a nihilist? You're such a paradox, Infinite. 

Yes we're in a big period of social flux. I'd say even in the last ten years we've seen MASSIVE change. But the effects and benefits of it will definitely be positive. Everyone's gonna get laid a lot more and be happier. :) 

As far as politics I think we're aiming in the right direction with that as well. The big socialist/capitalist battle was won in the U.S. (lost in South America) and even when/if the conservatives succeed in scrapping some socialist policies, we'll just recreate better ones. As far as some of the big "critiques" right now, I can't say I agree. We lost Education a long time ago.. America spent BILLIONS and billions on improving education and got nothing from it. It was right they gutted it they'll do a better job redoing it. Same thing with EPA. 

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Interesting take. Hopefully

Interesting take. Hopefully you’re right. I think we’re doomed. 

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I think a lot of suicide is

I think a lot of suicide is due to pretty major psychological issues like severe depression or schizophrenia or narcissism and stuff like that. 

Suciide seems like more more of a symptom than the issue in and of itself. Need to address chronic stress, depression, drugs, ADD etc etc cause I think that's the stuff that spirals into causing suicide 

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Buddhagames.The CULTURAL

Buddhagames.

The CULTURAL narcissism in this country is really a big part of why the suicide rate is up. 

Depending on external output via social media to feed ur self esteem, comparing urself to others and having superficial standards, also having nobody to confide in or share your inner most feelings with because you’re trying to come off perfect and/or because everyone else is too worried about their own ego trip/insecurities/wounds is what society is all about today. On top of all this you feel entitled to a perfect life, millions of dollars and a great love story all happily ever after. OH and also be able to fuck whoever you want and do whatever you want but the other person has to remain faithful.

People are chasing a fantasy. They are in debt and utterly alone with no purpose. They turn to drugs and sex. I mean that stuff makes ME happy, especially sex. People expect much more and I think pricisely these grandiose expectations are what causes a lot of inner depression. The disappointment. The failure to “draw state” from within. That pathologically narcissistic dependence on needing outside stimulus to hold up your self worth, rather than just enjoying the moment for what it is.

I like how things are though. It means more girls give a me a chance to bang in yet another attempt to fill the void. I’ll at least give them a great experience though.

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Yeah, this is crazy. I've

Yeah, this is crazy. I've been to three funerals in the last three years for people that commited suicide. And two more people that I knew of (went to HS with and the town over) commited suicide. A big part of it is poorly prescribed or misused prescription drugs (especially anti-depression/anxiety), NOT necesarily the lack of of them. Generally, I don't think people hit a serious psychotic break and are willing to actually commit suicide or act in seriously damaging ways (i.e. shooting up a school) unless they are off a serious nuero-chemical roller coaster that can only be initated by a misused prescription level drug. One of the funerals I mentioned above was my childhood friend's father. This guy was a business owner making upwards of 500k a year for over 15 years,  in 2014 he loses lots of money, and something regarding his anti-anxiety medication was altered by his doctor after 20 years and boom he makes the decision to take his own life.

1/3 American's have depessive side effects from meds:

https://www.yahoo.com/news/one-three-americans-meds-depressive-side-effe...

A list of 36 school violence perpentrators and what medications they WERE taking:

https://www.cchrint.org/school-shooters/

There needs to be better training on how to prescribe drugs and minimize side effects, not just cover them up with more drugs. And promote a solid baseline of health through lifestyle/diet/minerals/exercise.

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^ Thanks bro that's very

^ Thanks bro that's very informative. And sad

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Aren't you glad you stayed in

Aren't you glad you stayed in physician's school rather pursue photography? PFFFF

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Speaking of which, I just

Speaking of which, I just picked up this badboy:

https://petapixel.com/2018/06/13/review-the-tamron-28-75mm-f-2-8-for-son...

Gonna up my production game substantially expect some good shit.

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Haha! I don't learn any of

Haha! I don't learn any of this in school, that was the problem all along.

Doctor's suicide rate highest of any profession in 2018:

https://www.webmd.com/mental-health/news/20180508/doctors-suicide-rate-h...

^maybe because they feel their training has failed them? 

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Dude, that's a KILLER lens,

Dude, that's a KILLER lens, it really will be all you need plus more.

What have you been shooting with for the past few years? cuz' that was still pretty dang sharp.

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Humans are wired a certain

Humans are wired a certain way. We're biological wetware. The universe peering back at itself. To blame young people for being so dependent on outside approval is just another shitty sublimation, providing the necessary rationalization for apathy, or worse.

To enforce monogamy, culture was set up in a way where "the fairer sex" was put on a pedestal (read: subjugated). They said she was the property of her father until she became the property of her husband. She was told she was a "chaste" virgin who needed to ward off the evil fleshy machinations of the devil. They married her to "God" so they could control her expression of her own sexuality. Now that that's been taken away the biological "untruth" of the situation has created a lot of angst as the sexual market corrects itself.

Essentially the problem is people just haven't figured out yet how to talk to each other. We're essentially still stuck in a period of accusing each other of having cooties. Go on Facebook or any other social media platform and you'll see both sides accusing each other of their own emotional and social inadequacies.

But sex is also being dangled in front of women's faces to create a personal feeling of lack, inadequacy, or, as a weapon to create fear and anger.

I agreed when Wal-Mart took Cosmopolitan off its register check-out magazine stands. Young women should not be taught to chase validation from boys and be so focused on sex so early. It's obnoxious at the very least, and to be honest probably worthy of punishment. There are industries straight preying on young women that need to be steered differently.

But it doesn't change the fact that women now have to assume their own role in their seductive and romantic forays. And just like anyone else discovering (or rediscovering) something for the first time.. it's not a very comfortable experience. There are some brave bishes out there that do take matters in their own hands, but for the most part, women are pretty timid folk. And even then, they've still got a learning curve. So they continue to devise "victim" identities to shield themselves from the "awful" truth.

But who knows.. maybe we are headed back into the "Roaring 20's" followed by another Great Depression because of "moral decay". But I don't think so, I think we're fully capable of solving our own problems. We'll see

Infinite wrote:
Buddhagames.

The CULTURAL narcissism in this country is really a big part of why the suicide rate is up.

Depending on external output via social media to feed ur self esteem, comparing urself to others and having superficial standards, also having nobody to confide in or share your inner most feelings with because you’re trying to come off perfect and/or because everyone else is too worried about their own ego trip/insecurities/wounds is what society is all about today. On top of all this you feel entitled to a perfect life, millions of dollars and a great love story all happily ever after. OH and also be able to fuck whoever you want and do whatever you want but the other person has to remain faithful.

People are chasing a fantasy. They are in debt and utterly alone with no purpose. They turn to drugs and sex. I mean that stuff makes ME happy, especially sex. People expect much more and I think pricisely these grandiose expectations are what causes a lot of inner depression. The disappointment. The failure to “draw state” from within. That pathologically narcissistic dependence on needing outside stimulus to hold up your self worth, rather than just enjoying the moment for what it is.

I like how things are though. It means more girls give a me a chance to bang in yet another attempt to fill the void. I’ll at least give them a great experience though.

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You know, it’s funny.Ive

You know, it’s funny.

Ive been having similar talks with buddies of mine who are players and some seem to have this weird and subjective “hyper objectivity” where they say some version of the following beliefs sets, all while thinking it’s totally objective:

1. Just because it’s a woman’s basic desire to enjoy sex and be hyergamous/promiscuous  doesn’t make it morally right.

2. Just because you as a man are accepting of #1 doesn’t make it morally right. 

3. Sex is actually a big deal because it involves  the creation of another human being. It’s not “just” fun.

4. You’ll never meet a nice girl being a player, and settle down and do your moral duty which is to procreate and marry if you keep fucking sluts. “Nice girls” aren’t out there fucking players (lol)

5. Morality is a brain function not a set of subjective beliefs. It’s wrong or it isn’t, thus the natural aversions to lying, killing, stealing, cheating on your mate etc. 

6. If you have any ability to do immoral things free of guilt it’s because you rationalized it in your mind. “I fuck bitches becuse all girls are hypergamous and sluts” etc etc etc

To me, all this smacks of religious/evangelical kinds of thought. It’s some kind of Christian thing. You can take most of these points and make several Christian arguments to back it up.

Are things ACTUALLY like this?. Was Satan really setting in motion this demonic plot all along with his army of fallen angels to tempt us into sin, away from God, seeking that which we are truly looking for (God) in the earthly exploits of the flesh? 

Could be. Then again I ask this though, WHY do women of the church often partake in copious amounts of cock if God is enough? Why does anyone do anything “wrong” if God is enough? I mean aside from survival that is.

Then again, we must also consider that women have the venom of the snake in their ear and the lies of the devil in the hearts. They are all daughters of Eve after all, and they sooner obey the serpent than God or Adam.

But really, let’s be logical here. If God was truly enough, why would temptation ever be an option? Free will? We have the free will to IV speedball cocaine and heroin. That’s about as happy as you can get on this planet probably. So if people can get hooked on drugs, surely the grace and fulfillment of God must be infinitely better no? Why is it then so easy to get hooked on drugs but not on God? 

I argue that really, people are being crybabies about how things are. These player buddies of mine are just really looking for a mommy, as many are, and they think that this yearning is justified through some quasi biblical trip. 

Religous girls love the D. To make it so that it seems like women carry this tendency to sexual temptation that is of the devil in their hearts makes perfect sense. It’s really “like that” for all practical purposes. Like if you literally think that way but still don’t give a fuck, women go for it. Women are very curious and drawn to the “demonic” side of a man. What is meant as a tool of oppression is actually a great tool of seduction for me. 

Whenever I look at a woman all I see is possibility. Fuck the church.

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It seems like the general

It seems like the general population or governments haven't come to understand human nature yet. Alot of the modern diseases like asthma, allergies, cancer, depression, bad teeth, heart diseases, muscle and bose diseases, diabetes etc were rare among hunter gatherers, they are symptons of an environmental mismatch. Most research funding goes into finding quick-fixes, medicines for treating the symptoms, but rarely into preventive healthcare. Preventive healthcare is cheaper, and therefore there is no incentive for pharmaceuticals to invest in those. There simply isn't alot of money to be made. 

Humans evolved to be hunter-gatherers, which ment they spent the days looking for food, and ocasionally hunting. Generally, the people that didn't die as infants (infant mortality was high), lived quite healthy by eating a highly varied diet, got good sleep, got a lot of physical exercise, didn't live stressed or by themselves. The hunter-gatherers, although these foods were rare, were genetically formed to crave sugars, fats, starches etc because it increased their chances of survival and reproduction in times of scarcity.

Since the industrial evolution however, we have an abundance of such fast calories and quick dopamine hits. At the same time, we tend to be more stressed, isolated from others, more sedentary and live more comfortable lives than ever. Because of human nature, we abuse of these quick dopamine hits. I don't know exactly what the main cause of depression is, but i strongly believe all of these things are correlated. Alot of people than suffer from anxiety and stress, look for dopamine hits or drugs to escape from reality. This tends to lead to a negative circle in which they become addicted to some sort of stimulus like drugs, sex, money, fame etc. Hunter-gatherers didn't suffer from depression, but if they were transported to the modern world, i'm sure they would too. Humans simply didn't evolve to live in the conditions of today. Although i think today is the best era to live, and although medicines for treating symptons of diseases are very important, there needs to be more awareness of the real cause of these modern diseases.

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Hunter-gatherers lived

Hunter-gatherers lived happier lives with less stress? LOL

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Yes, most research suggest

Yes, most research suggest they did not suffer from stress, anxiety, depression etc. Of course life was physically demanding but in a healthy way for most part. Of course, that life might seem horrible from someone that is used to the comfort of this modern era, but too much comfort is partly what is causing alot of diseases.

Since the agricultural revolution people became alot less healthier, but only recently since the industrial revolution have life expectancy increased to levels above that of hunter-gatherers. We live longer than the hunter-gatherers now but morbidity is also higher. All this modern shit is a very recent phenomenon we haven't learned to cope with it yet.

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I'm well aware of the

I'm well aware of the consequences of our ancestral lifestyle, compared to the current one. It's been a part of my curriculum for years now, ;). I was just commenting on the fact a millennial was the one discussing it. LOL. 

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Plus the fact that

Plus the fact that regardless, embedded in the premise is a huge trace of undeserved narcissism. Lol 

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