Super Hottie Trainer Back in Town

So this happened right after that convo. Decided to try a few genuine statements that I been trying to incorporate into my game, etc.

Let me know what you boys think. I still find I'm getting shit replies, will need to fix that or I might not have built enough trust here.

Anyway --

Me: will you be in (city) for a while

Her: Just tonight

Me: fuck. crazy that you're here, had an interesting thought just a few days ago

Her: What's that

Me: it sounds kinda stupid, not the best at expressing

Her: Ok

Me: i felt i came off very insincere when you were here. I genuinely wanted to get to know you better, you're a sweetheart. the only reason I backed off is cause of (friend). if you felt like i just wanted in your pants, i'm sorry i made it seem that way.

(First time doing something like this, where I don't apologize for wanting her and to actually have sex, but I apologized for being insincere about it, dropping her/the situation and acknowledging how she might have felt. the day before she left she was wasted kissing me all over my face at some burger joint at 3 am as she told me she loved me hahahaha)

Her: It's all good (my name). I think ur a good guy

Me: I'd say the same, but we all know you're a bad bitch

Her: ;)

Me: enjoy your night :)

Her: you too butthead

Me: i'll see ya soon, except this time you'll have to keep up with me (beer emoji)

Her: Sounds good

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Still not enough investment through her messages but it isn't that negative. I can do better. Critique away fellas, open to anything

Girls like this I always spike it with some kind of disqualification, sexual or otherwise, maybe even some false barriers. I don't see what's going on here, I don't know the context did you hook up with her before? 

What do you mean by false barriers?

So, when I started working at the new bar/club, she was one of the trainers. We talked a lot but my friend was into her and so I decided to back off since I had lots to choose from. The night before she left the city, she comes strolling into some burger joint (absolutely shitfaced) as I'm eating after getting off and starts mauling my face with her lips, so I guess we just kinda made out? I was more laughing and in shock. She kept hugging me and telling me she loved me, it was pretty funny. She was hooking up with my buddy for a bit but I think it went sour fast. 

She's expecting me to go see her this summer but it's hard to gauge if she actually wants me too. She doesn't know about my gf, but knows that her and I were getting involved before she left the city. So, she knows that something went on there. 

So no sex, kind of a make out, some back and forth texting and flirting in person a lot and then just that conversation right there. This is that 10/10 trainer that you were telling me to stop trying to take out on a date, originally I opted for that cause she was accusing me of being a player, thought it would be smart to switch it up that way. Then I ended up dropping it altogether. 

I don't see any push for logistics here? Do you know what her plan is while she's in town? It's cool y'all had your heart to heart but have to nail something down. 

Logistics wise, she was staying at a friend's tiny ass place for the night but was leaving early this morning to go back home. She was only in town shortly and didn't even go out clubbing afterwards. I would have had to go down to see her at my bar for a brief hour before the concert, wasn't worth it since I knew she wasn't going to ditch a concert she bought 100+ dollar tix for. I also live a bit of a drive away from the bar and was at an anniversary party.

She's expecting that visit up to her city sometime this summer though. I figure after my finals in 2 weeks, I'm pretty much free. I was thinking keep her invested or build more investment I should say and seed some sort of time to link up with her when I head up there.

It's her bday today, I'll send her a bday text along the lines of "I know it's your special day, but I'm still going to steal all the attention.. happy birthday babe" or something like that. I feel like it should be disqualifying considering her short replies like you suggested earlier. 

Yeah I'd turn babe into something saucier but otherwise that's good. Remember that you still got to keep things interesting ;) 

Hahahaha I've never done the saucier kinds, I'll have to scroll through some of your examples and see what I can brainstorm. I'll update if a convo ensues. I don't like texting girls this often though.

Do you often go for like funny ass saucier nicknames, or more just sexy.. cause I can rattle off a million immature ones hahaha

Immature is great ;). I'd embed some sexual disqualification in there as well 

Hahaha I think I got something good, 

I'm liking something along the lines of:

"I know it's your special day and you deserve all the attention but I don't think that sexy little smile alone is enough to get you aaaalllll the attention, so after you give those little light sticks a nice blow.. I'll be stealing the spotlight. Happy bday pumpkinbutt (kiss emoji)"

I will probably change it up a little. No rush to send it off. 

Yeah that's very long-winded. Got to hit hard but sparingly

I'd have shown up to your party but I wanted it to be about you. Not me 

;)

She's a fitness chick you could discuss suspecting she's got a rubbery vagina from lifting so many weights. Stuff like that. She'd NEVER forget about you after that sort of thing lol

I'll have to dial it down and be more specific then. 

and, a rubbery vagina? LOL 

My good friend just gave me this one that I couldn't stop laughing at  "Toned sexy abs. Tight, plump ass. Perky, firm tits... oh.. sorry.. I'm just reading off this checklist of physical features that you'll lose over the next few birthdays.. better not waste em' ;) "

^ Lol that's a fucking good one 

Yah man, I was in stitches. I sent it kind of late, so she was shit faced. Will update the text convo later for ya. Just slaving away at work. 

So I went with that hilarious bday greeting my buddy suggested. She never ended up replying until the following day. 

Her: That video tho...

Me: pardon (no idea what she's talking about)

Her: Hahaha oh my god wrong person (not likely lol)

Me: no kidding. what kinda video ;)

Her: Bahahahah

Her: You don't wanna know

Me: now i'm excited at work. terrible girl. 

Her: ;)

Me: i like these faces on you more -> *biting lip emoji, open mouth emoji, wide open mouth emoji with eyes closed, moaning emoji, bliss emoji* ;) (literally spat my diet coke out at work typing this)

hahaha then no reply, seems like I'm not getting enough investment but it could be worse considering I'm trying to keep her hot and engaged via long distance atm.

What do you fellas think?

Man. You been fucking around with too many kindergarteners. You just got played 

Yeah after an hour or two went by thinking about it this morning, I definitely felt that lmao.

...and right now, just thinking about it.. I feel like I chased her frame soooo hard when she mentioned the video.. FUCK! She used it to get me to chase and invest out of my ass... that wasn't even an accidental text she sent. Fuck me. 

Some more thoughts/realizations.

I gave away all the potential for tension as well. As soon as she was validated she was gone.

It was like "Oh, he filled my ego, admitted I got him before I even asked. I guess he's like the other guys, into the orbit you go.".... It's the same trend too that'll continue for possibly 2-3 more conversations. If it's left unnoticed. She'll eventually rule me out all together if I don't fix it. 

There is no fun, just her being bored and being unable to contribute. She won't invest since it's not worth having. Being too available and willing is perceived as extremely low value to these types of females as well.. because it is. 

Fuck. I think I understand how to direct the next conversation with her. 

Yep yep yep. Fell right into that shit. Just because you had a "genuine" conversation with her doesn't mean you got to stop having a dick and some balls. lol 

Heard about the video. You a sicko 

Stop touching children that don't belong to you *crying emoji's*

Stuff like that would get her back on the saddle 

Yeah, man. I completely dropped the ball. LOL @ the second example hahahaha.

I'll re-engage at some point, I think it would be best to let it fizzle down. I been gaming some other girls, I'll update in another thread.

How long would you recommend letting this fizzle down a bit before hitting her up again? I don't think I've had a problem like this for quite some time. 

That was actually a double text I'll label that better next time. You could hit her up in a week I guess. Anything more and it wouldn't probably be relevant. 

Sounds good my man, I'll hit her up in a week. With either call-back humor or something in relation to her.

I'll make it good too. I think it would be best to keep the convo short as well and end it first. Keep things interesting. She's def got the upper hand at the moment.

If you want to go the video route I'd do it sooner rather than later 

Have a similar situation that I never fully played out. Interested to see how it plays out. Keep us posted

Bookmarked this post, a lot of shit to be learned.

I find myself getting comfortable with hotties, eventually filling their egos and end up losing them at the drop of a hat lol.

My roommates are like "dude what happened?? We thought you had her!"

Always got to stay on your toes my dude!

Yeah but you don't know shit that's why

OK OK chill! I'll be signing up to your coaching in the near future ;)

Ya I'll hit her up with the text you suggested right now. Feelin' pretty good today.

You're right about the "sooner rather than later" for the callback humor on the video. Will update on reply. I wouldn't be surprised if she didn't get it or shot a shit test right at me haha.

LOL!

Me: Saw the video.. you a sicko

Me: Stop touching kids that don't belong to you! *crying emoji*

Her: What!?

Me: i was searchin' up Kundalini yoga positions ... but your little work out video popped up ;)

Her: Oh hush up butthead

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I can literally take this in any direction. I'm considering having fun with this. I'll spin on the idea some more.

Lol. I'd use that "fitness girls" line on her closer to her coming back to your town. Her mouth would be watering by the time you saw her again 

That's a good idea. Might have to keep her baited like this. I didn't bother replying to her. 

I never fully understood the fitness chick one, what was the line?

Well with these high value girls it's fun to fuck with them a bit and they really like it. Puts you head 'n shoulders above everyone else in their phonebook hitting them up 

So basically, sexual disqualification is the most effective way to do this over text?

I'm noticing the hot girls respond super well to the disqualification like you were saying before. Much easier to understand when you experience it first hand. 

Tried to be a little more hard hitting. Figured this girl would be the perfect opportunity to practice that on.

Me: i can't take it anymore. i just want to pinch those big cheeks!

Her: Oh hush

Me: they just perk right up whenever i see you

Me: you must not get that a lot

Her: All the time ;)

Me: yeah one look and i was like "definitely..maybe.. squat cheeks"

Her: Haha very funny

Me: we're coming up in May I think

Her: to (city)?

Me: yes

Her: Nice !

Her: For what

Me: i know (friend) and (friend) wanted to come see (friend), so we'll get in touch with him

Her: Ohhhh lovely!

Me: you better be around ya

Her: Of course

Me: cool, show me around. just don't get all handsy on me again (punch emoji)

Her: Bahaha I'll try

Me: i'm only okay with you using your mouth this time

Me: last time you left bruises...

Her: Oh gosh shut up you butthead

Me: pfft you're one to talk, i couldn't get you to muffle it for the life me *covers mouth monkey emoji*

Her: (my name)

Me: (her name)

Her: U gonna be shy around me again

Me: that depends.. you gonna keep licking your lips every time you look at my pants again ;)

Her: Oh my god I'm gonna slap you

Me: oh baby! here we go with the hands again! haha

Her: *rolls eye emoji*

Her: You wish

Me: when we drink, i'd like to pick the music

Her: Better be good

Me: why you gonna punish me if it sucks

Her: No I'll just leave

Me: i can't let you do that. that doesn't work for my purposes.

Her: *sends nerd emoji*

Me: i heard you're quite the dancer

Her: Haha oh ya? From who

Me: i don't wanna say any names.. but i heard you teach a few lessons here and there

Her: Haha nope not me

Me: don't sit there any tell me the bathroom stall wall lied to me..

Me: i want my god damn salsa lessons, (her name)

Her: Hush

Me: i like it better when we both contribute

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Then I passed out, was late night. Think I'm getting better with the hard-hitting texts, but I know it needs work still. Any critiques welcome for those who are following this. Thanks fellas

I think this one's cooked. ;) 

Hahaha thanks man. All I gotta do now is hit her up with some value every now and then as well as pick a date to drive on up to see her. Then smash! 

I was feeling in the zone with those texts. Prior to that convo, I was beginning to think I lost this one.. lol

Nts - If you have a bad day and you're drunk. Turn your phone off. 

Might have fucked this one fellas. I either had too many diff convos going and being drunk, I got careless. Or I just dropped the ball tonight. 

Me: this sounds nuts.. but outta all the (girl's name)'s i know.. i think you're my favourite 

Her: (My name)

Her: Ur a butthead

Me: thats only okay if i get to be the big spoon.. little spoon makes me uncomfortable..

Her: How do you think of me all the time?

Me: well sometimes you're beside me.. on top... sometimes kneeling in front... french maid outfit.. you get the picture ;) *kiss emoji*

Her: Shut yo mouth

Me: can't wait to see you again. i think you're so sweet. you just give off a tough vibe ;) 

Me: does that sound better ;)

Her: Don't think you'll see me againnnn

Me: i'll make sure i do when i head up soon 

Me: not seeing you again doesn't work for me

Her: Poor baby

Me: i love it when you're feisty. makes me feel all tingly *closed eye smile emoji*

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Not in a good state of mind. Having a hard time thinking clearly. Might have messed this one up and in my opinion it feels like I have. What would you guys do in this situation? 

Just some simple sexual disqualification would do it here ;) 

Just reading over it again it doesn't appear to be that bad. I have had much worse.. (in reference to that video convo we had.. oh god.)

I'll hit her up with some sexual disqualification today. I really want to spin something with that rubbery pussy line. Maybe use being away from the gym and training while up there visiting somehow and incorporate her into a workout partner role. 

Going to be going with something like this "how're your yoga skills. i could use a wrestling partner for when i'm away but being a gym bunny you're probably way too tight and rubbery from all those weights. i'm lookin' for something firm, but relaxed and extremely pliable'

Either bait into a convo, or get myself shit-tested and bounce back from there. Reviewing the last thread it wasn't that bad I feel. She sort of bit down and took some bait, but then she made sure to test me shortly after given the frame/vibe I came at her with.  I could have done better either way.

I'd save the physical stuff for when she's in town. You want to manage that like a blitz so save your good stuff. Timing in this case will be key

Yeah good point there, I wish I hadn't sent that. At least I know for next time. She never ended up replying. Might re-engage in a bit or just drop it all together. What's your take? Might have to wait this out.

Ah yeah, it was a bit too long-winded. Not bad, but not good either, lol. 

So, I hit that trainer up two days ago. Just to confirm we were chilling when I come to her city. She said yes. She lets me know she`s in town on Friday night out of no where. I went and saw her.

After a few back and forth texts, she gets warmer and warmer. I got my left arm tattoo sleeve done that morning and didn't really think it was wise to go out. I wasn`t going to go out but she wanted me to come. So I went with a buddie or two to this birthday party.

This girl was eyeing me all night. We flirted quite a bit. I give off the strong player vibe to her and she knows this very well. I need to add more sincerity to our interactions, I think. When I sprinkled in some genuine compliments she responded really well.

I moved her around the club a bit, she eyed me a lot that night and kept smiling at me. I kissed her on the cheeks a hundred times and we just talked a lot. One of her guy friends came to the party as well and was trying to hook up with her all night, chasing her around like a puppy. I could see her talking to him but pulling away a lot. I remained icy all night, she would pull away from him and like make sure nothing happened whenever he would try to advance. She introduced me to him as well and told everyone that he was her friend. I found her looking at me every time this happened, there was instances that she left and came over to me instead. She watched almost every move I made. I don't know if she was trying to get me jealous with that guy but I did hard take aways when he came around. 

Truthfully I wasn`t even going to see her, I was in a lot of pain yesterday and when I did see her she was telling me how she thought I was going to bail on her again. I think I did well for increasing investment by just showing up this time aroudn. She shit tested me a lot about being 2 years younger than her as well as how I'm "shy". I kinda played these off. We were back and forth all night but I wasn't being sincere and building enough trust I found so I couldn't really get the hook up to happen. I went in for a kiss and she pulled back and was like "uh huhhh, you're younger than me remember" I just gave her a challenging look and looked at her friend who was smiling and telling me to behave. I feel like if her friend wasn't there, I woulda got it, easily. She was also very touchy with me and what not. I guess I was too much of one side of the spectrum.

I had serious IOI's but also got IOD's. So, I was confused. I also wasn't competing with that chump that was there. I kinda just ignored him and played my calm, patient game. It was working since her eyes were glued to me all night and the sexual tension was just building. We eventually parted ways and she was telling me how I better come up to see her next month. That guy went with them though when my friends and I left.

I haven't messaged her yet, not sure if I should so soon. I feel like if I do, I should keep it genuine and say something sweet. I know she brought up my "dirty" texts and was like talking to my friend saying how it's so weird she gets those from me but she was saying it in that girlish, i kinda like it way. She came up to me and said "No more pervy texts" in a joking way when she was hugging me and I just said "nah, cause of that you're gonna get them more. You love them." and she just started laughing. So, I'm thinking be a bit more genuine and sincere and keep these texts short. 

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I guess visiting her is a go but the rest is iffy on how to actually pull this off. I'm thinking more towards being genuine and sweeter. More daddy, less boss ass player? The tension and eyes say it's on otherwise..

How'd it go down the interaction where you went to kiss her? 

Yeah it sounds like the high level/high intensity "relationship" type vibes sorta threw you off.

Well we were talking really close and she was inching closer and closer but then her good friend was standing right there looking at us. I kind of just kept smiling and got closer and then went in and she looked at her friend and just pulled back and then that's when her friend smiled and spoke. Then she spoke and shit-tested me.

I'm not sure I understand the second portion of what you were saying. I still gotta shoot her a message as well.

Hm. Yeah a kiss isn't supposed to be like that

I completely agree. Will be much better next month. Gonna have to brush up on that shit. It's crazy how being in a relationship will hinder your game even breifly. Looks like I got comfortable. 

She's still super down to chill and wants to show me around her city. So, I haven't completely fucked this one.