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Hey guys. So after re-watching Jon's video it really hit me where I've been going miserably wrong! Long story short, the last three women I've had alone on the couch i fucked it up and didn't close the deal derp. One from cold approach night game and two off the internet both same day near lays. I'm basically a newbie after being in a LTR which pains me to say lol. Jon mentioned the ying/yang approach to escalation and basically i think i was to weak and didn't pull the trigger or get more agressive and show them my masculine energy, i was pussying about making out and giving to much and getting nothing in return and it blew up in my face as their state dropped ?

Any advise/critcism welcome cheers.

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Here's the video he's

Here's the video he's referring to if any of you haven't seen it yet. I'd highly recommend it:


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It was a bonus product I did for kinobody.com 

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Hey dude starting off the

Hey dude starting off the best thing to do would be to hit my lay reports and read through a bunch of them. Will give you quite an education on the way seduction really works. 

You're exhbiting very common and basic problems. They plague 90% of the male race lol 

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Ain't that the sad truth. So

Ain't that the sad truth. So I'm basically going to have to re-wire my brain to not give a fuck about the outcome?  I've definitely came across as thirsty or deperate lol. The sad part is I've read nearly everything ever written on here but still cannot move forward in real time = pussy!

Appriciate the help though.

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Well you are giving a fuck

Well you are giving a fuck about the outcome. With the clear understanding that if you don't handle things correctly, and execute proper game, it'll go to shit. Understand? You should be worried about that instead. What are you worried about when you're with a girl? How are you escalating? Is your dick coming into the equation at some point? Remember it's exciting for them. They like dicks 

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LOL! My thinking is messed up

LOL! My thinking is messed up trying to the polite cool dude which is just pathetic now that i think about it. The last couple of encounters i basically switched off thinking i have her alone all the hard work is done derp! haven't pulled the dick out for whatever reason (sigh) and i know now it's definitely cost me, it won't happen again.

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Well if you have them alone

Well if you have them alone in your couch, imo it would be much more shame in not even escalating than getting rejected haha. 

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"Polite and cool" is Human

"Polite and cool" is Human Resources. That's what society follows. Mating and biology does not. You need to establish "prize kino", "high value masculine sexual escalation", and use fractionation to set the precedent/get her used to being close/intimate with you and wanting sex. If you're getting the girl alone you have done some of the work, but nowhere close to all of it. Are you kissing these girls at all or otherwise touching them in any way? 

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Yeah man lots of kissing and

Yeah man lots of kissing and kino beforehand, i just wasn't dominant enough i think. I've also had this retarded idea in my head that i need to get her to bed to fuck her for hours, instead of just going with the flow and fucking her on the couch.

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Lmao that's the weird thing i

Papaya.

Lmao that's the weird thing i couldn't give a fuck about rejection I've had 30 plus year of it. Or maybe it's my subconscious hurting me.

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