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Sup fuckers. Going to get in the habit of putting all my convos up on the forum - at least as much as time will permit while taking Jon's training. Girl from tinder. 

Tinder:

Me: You can tell a lot about a person by the kind of drawers they wear. Like you -- granny panties I bet. [cr: patrick.bateman]

Her: Fuck u [ lol ] 

Next day:

Me: Feisty for a lil granny panty lol

Her: My friend had my phone last night, sorry, I'd never say that, and that's fine granny panties are at least comfortable. 

Me: Hahahaha that's really funny.

Me: Don't worry about it, you're good hun.

Me: How'd you friend end up with your phone anyway lol

Her: She asked to look at it ha it was silly I didn't realize what she was doing until it was too late. 

Her: Happy October!

Me: Haha it's k bebs

Me: I think it's hella funny, so how long you been in Vegas for?

Her: Well I'm glad you find it funny haha

Her: And I'm actually from Vegas

Her: What about you?

Me: From LA by way of BOS

Me: Although I've lived briefly a few times in Vegas w/my dad when I was younger haha.

Me: Was kind've a troublemker :p 

Her: I like what I'm hearing

Me: You seem kinda fun so far too lovebug. So are you in grad school or whattya do?

Her: I'm done with grad school actually, finished last year. I'm a teacher though. You?

Me: Oh you're the hot teacher I'd shamelessly check out in high school lol. 

Me: Crush any teengae boy hearts yet?

Me: I'm an XYZ here. 

Her: Haha, I'm sure I have, my boys definitely have crushes on me they tell me daily ha.

Her: Oh Nice!

Me: Haha you'er getting off easy, I'd write lil cute notes n stuff. Maybe scrounged up some change to get her a small piece of chocolate to go along with it.

Her: I did get a brownie the other day.

Me: Smooth. I like this kid. Let's move this to text tho - what's your number

Her: ###-###-#### :)

Move convo to text.

Texts:

 

Me: K this is much easier dork - aequitas

Me: So what part of town are you at?

HerHaha

I live Y and X

You?

Me:

Across the street from the X 

Not far from each other at all

Her:

Do you like it over there?

Me:

Yeah Vegas is fun. I need a city that constantly has stuff going on. I also play poker a lot lol

Whatchu up to rn 

Her:

Yeah I'm that way too, I enjoy doing things too

I'm just getting ready

Going to see my parents

Me:

K kewl, imma call you then

Her:

Oh you just called me ha

Me:

Yuh. Shoot me a call, hun. 

Talk on the phone. Shoot the shit. Make fun of her, have fun with it. Seems like we get along. Plan a date originally for this past Sunday. 

 

HerSorry call again haha *IG NAME*

Me: Whitest last name ever Added 

Her:It really is haha ok I'll add you

Me:

Perf. K kewl you seem like you have friends that aren't imaginary lol

Her:

Haha see I'm normal! Ha

Me:

Potentially 

What I forgot to ask is if you're a wall flower or if you dance 

HerI'm def not a wall flower don't you worry

Me: What's the name of this X bar you mentioned btw 

Her:

It's called XYZ

We can go wherever, it was just a suggestion!

I call her again at this point to reschedule. I didn't want to reschedule via text and let her know Sunday wasn't going to work because a girl friend was in town that I wanted to hang with. Rescheduled for tuesday. 

 

Me:

Haha you're good bebs, I'll take a look and we'll figure it out from there 

Whatchu up to rn tho? .. besides thinking about me n doodlin' hearts on a piece of paper 

Her:

Sounds good. I am doodling actually, you're good ;) I'm watching some murder show haha

My favorite shit to watch ha

Me:

how many hearts we talking tho? a decent amount is cool, but if you’ve filled up a book maybe we got issues ;) 

I can get behind some murder shows, provided you aren’t some serial killah lol. What show you watching?

Her:

Nah not a book....yet but there's plenty of time left in the day ha

Crime shows are the best! It's true crime the Menendez brothers

About those brothers who killed their parents in the 80s

Me:

Well, at least I know your a ride or die type of girl haha

It's not ringing a bell rn. We can watch true detective -- so fucking good

Also, send me a lil selfie so I know you aren't some weirdo 

Her:

I don't have any makeup on though but if you really want one I'll send one haha

Me:

Ya send away pumpkin. 

Her: *SENDS SELFIE*

Me:

Someone looks shmexy 

I'm working up an appetite in the gym, I might just have ya for dinner 

Her:

Oh yeah I'm rocking the shit out of my Dos Equis shirt

Me:

You mentioned you're an alcoholic who likes anything :p, but is XX yer thing or what

Her:

Nah I like modelo better or Pacifico, I just have this shirt ha

Next day in the morning ... 

Me:

Fuck. What a damn sad night/day. Is school cancelled?

Her:

I can't believe it. And no, lots of students out. My aide isn't here either I hope she's ok

Me:

Me neither. I'm surprised they didn't cancel since class rooms tend to effectively be not instructing anyway

I think I'm gonna skip out of work early to go give blood. They 100% need it rn

Her:

They couldn't cancel because parents wouldn't have enough time to find sitters if need be

I want to give blood too, told my roommate we should go

Me:

Ah i didn't even think of that. That makes sense

Yeah, definitely should! 

Also, let's do a bar off the strip tomorrow. Something mellow.

Her:

I heard that banks are only taking appointments now

Yes I was thinking that too def don't want to be on the strip right now

Me:

Wait what? Why?

http://www.redcrossblood.org/rcbmobile/drive/driveSearchList.jsp?utm_campaign=rco_search&utm_medium=rco_blood&utm_source=redcross.org&zipSponsor=89109

I think we can give blood there

Her:

I'm not sure my roommate had called and that's what she said

When my aide is out it sucks, it's so hard being alone in my class

I'm so drained ha

Me:

I hear that. Aides hella help. I used to be a TA for my professor so I get how much they help

Ended up just serving myself some whiskey and a beer haha

Her:

Did you end up giving blood? I realized I can't, forgot I got a tattoo a few months back I think it's a year rule. Ha I'm drinking rose

We might be trouble for each other

Me:

Nah we tried but it would've been a 5-6 hour wait :/

You have a tattoo? Interesting, where do you have it haha

The best kind of trouble, hun ;)

Her:

I have 4 actually haha

Best kind of trouble huh, sounds good to me 

Me:

No shit. But where lol

Yuh, we'll see if you can keep up :p

Her:

One on my foot, one on my hip, two in my ribs

Ohhh please haha

Me:

Oooo. 

K so let's do X place off Y street

Does 6pm work for you?

Her:

Ok never heard of that but I'll look it up! 6 works :)

Me:

Me neither lol. K good, dress cute so we match ;) 

Her:

Haha sounds good

Called her here. She didn't pick up. Back story is she originally gives guys google numbers instead of real numbers because she's had some "incidents" with creeps. Figured I'd send a text somewhat related to that.  

Me:

lol have you still not saved my number so you don't recognize it dork 

Get her on the phone. Decide I want her to park at my place and we'll uber from there. It's al good, she's on board. 

Me: XYZ MY address

Her:

Yeah I'm going to be late haha it says 15 min away

Me:

.... yeah, first drink is on you. 

her:

You live further than the bar so not my fault

me:

Uh huh. Poor time management skills, hun :p

her:

Oh whatever

Meet her downstairs, give her a hug, lead her up to my place because I "forgot" my work phone. Pop up for a second, show her my living room n then we roll out. I had just finished all my assigned drills so i was feeling pretty talkative. Literally just talking and commenting on anything and everything. She's just enjoying the ride as we lyft over to some divey ass bar. Get to know her, the whole convo is pretty effortless and fun. Flirty, but I made some mistakes in not moving her around and leading her around and touching her more. It was very casual in the way we touched each other, and eventually both her and i are cozy up w/each other. Her and i banter pretty well w/each other, she's some saucy party girl so she can dish it back well. Eventually we ground the conversation and explain our most recent breaks up n stuff, talk  and connect about that for a bit. We troll some guy and it's sorta like our own lil bubble of trolling others. Us versus the world so to speak. 

Lead her back to mine for drinks. We're fairly tipsy at this point. I make us some cocktails, yell at alexa to play some Marvin Gaye and to dim the lights to 25%. I don't even typically put on Marvin Gaye when girls come over but my buddy back from grad school had gotten it in my head lol. We dance a bit while we're chilling, then go to the couch.

Her: "I just want you to know we aren't doing anything!"

Me: "Haha yea obviously" 

Her: No honestly because guys always get upset whenever we don't do anything!

Me: "lol your good bebs, c'mere." 

Try making out w/her. She tries moving her face away. I just smile. I try again. She moves again.

Me: What're you doing, I'm tryna kiss you you lil weirdo :) 

her: I know! I'm not trying to do anything.

Me: Oh shut up n c'mere lol.

Pull her in and start making out with her. We make out and fondle each other for 5 min or so. Oscillate back and forth between dancing n then making out on the couch. She would stop whenever I was kissing her neck because she had to fly to work w/her boss right next to her (her hair is very short). In any case she ends up leaving and I tell her to text me when she gets home. (I always tell girls that, mainly because I wanna make sure they're home safe n stuff, but it adds the benefit of keeping the lines of communication open)

Texts: 

Her: Home :) (maybe 20 min after she left)

Me:

Good. ;) ... damnit I'm about to order food I'm starting to get hungry lol

Her:

I'm in bed haha

Are you ordering tacos

Me:

Ordering a burrito and jroning my clothes. I know I'm not doing this shit tomorrow

Ironing 

The next morning 

Her:

You're favorite guy is coming to Vegas this morning! How stoked are you?

Me:

I know lol. Hopefully he gets it right and doesn't offend anyone ( read: not possible with him lol ). You wake up hungover at all?

Her:

I woke up thirsty at like 5, but beyond that I'm good

You?

Me:

Woke up at 5 kinda groggy and just couldn't go back to sleep. Tired as hell but luckily it's sort've a half day.

Her:

Flight is delayed till 3 ughhhhh

Me:

Damn lol. Why cuz trump? 

Blah blah work related stuff. 

Her:

Well I guess our plane is broken so not taking off till 4:45 now

How did the meeting go

Me:

Pretty ridiculous that this is my job lol

Fuck lol. That sucks. I mean it went. I had to be on my toes a lot more than I wanted to be but blah blah work related stuff

Her:

I've been drinking since 10 ha

Yeah seems pretty nice

We are definitely dangerous for each other

Still at the airport

Drinking yet?

Me:

The good kind of danger, pumpkin ;)

Actually not yet. Been walking around work stuff blah blah all day. But we're gonna grab some beers shortly i think. You drunk already? lol

Her:

Pretty tipsy at this point

Haha

Also pumpkin is my favorite

So good haha

Me:

Haha that's great. Just getting started now. Bottomless drinks at this work thing 

Pumpkin lattes are also good lol

Her:

I will order anything pumpkin

 

Me: How's Atlanta? Rough start to your day or what 

Her::

Atlanta is good, so tired. We had a shit show of s travel day. Finally landed in Atlanta at like 11, get to the hotel at like 12

(2/2)and they gave away our rooms and had to go to another one. I'm SO tired but this school I'm at is ridiculously cool

Me:Damn you've had it rough, honeybear. What time is training done each day

Her:

No but I have really bad service here

Done at 3 or 4 I think, had to woke up at 5:30 this morning, slept about 3 hours I'm struggling

I got that picture

Me:

Haha it's my lil bonsai plant and UV light at my office 

Uf yea you're on the struggle bus 

I was hurting yesterday running on 4 hours of sleep until 8 pm. Went to event with work blah bo

 

Blah blah more small talk.

Her:

Yeah I'm at a work dinner as well drinking a mule

Me:

Nice. I had a few beers but nothing like last night. I am pretty exhausted haha 

She goes dead-air here. Next day.

Yeah just kidding. Boss and I ended up going for a few more rounds after that work event lol

He seemed eager to get some stuff off his chest haha (True)

Her:

Haha that's so great

I was in bed at a descent time

I'm so tired

Me:

Ya babe go to sleep your spellings getting sloppy

;)

Her:

Hahahah it is

I'm so tired

How was your day?

Me:

Tired too, need a nap but buds in town keep nagging me to head out tn.

Prolly gonna stay in watch a flick n go online puppy shopping instead lol

Her:

I know I have friends in town too

The worst

Online puppy shopping?

Me:

Ya this place rlly needs a good lil pupper to round it out, hoping amazon can 2day ship me one

Also hoping this cute n fiesty scandinavian gal visits me tn 

And brings snacks...i'd fall in love

Her:

Haha that would be so nice of that gal

Me:

Oh she'll be rewarded. Scary movies, tacos and whiskey. Only a lil whiskey for the baby drinker tho ;)

Her:

I have two different groups of friends in town I have to see one tonight and one tomorrow, or I'd definitely be down to come say hi :)

Me:

K hmu when you're bored and need saving

But ya just got out of this weird uber ride, dude was trying baptize me I think lol (6:30pm)

Her: Haha how did that end up? (a few hours later around 10:45 pm)

Plan is to not hit her up till Sunday or Monday, re-engage, then fast and furious. I think had I lead more, allowed her to feel a bit more of a sense of surrender through escalating things physically a bit more, I think this would have gone down and we would've had sex. Unfortunately, I did not put her on MY rhythm, and instead we were on HER rhythm. She's been here before. A guy doesn't get SUPER physical till after they're alone. Granted we were getting cozy towards second half at the bar, I think we should've been cozying up far sooner. 

 

 

 

 

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PFF. Bateman wishes "granny

PFF. Bateman wishes "granny panties" was his. Dass mine, ho. 

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I think you know what's up

I think you know what's up already from the last little analysis.

One thing I noticed is that you're expressing these little details that is disqualifying you from lover boy status. I know you normally got this down but I'm guessing these vegas girls need a little bit more swag sprinkled on top. For example, I didn't like how you were bantering about past breakups that just doesn't sound like the right frequency you want to be on to turn up the heat quickly. I think the LMR was a product of this dynamic. I just see too much detail about small talk opposed to some fun teasing, prizing, and overall high octane shenanigans. 

But overall seems like you were 95% there  and I like the texting a lot ;)  

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Meow wrote: I think you know

Meow wrote:
I think you know what's up already from the last little analysis.

One thing I noticed is that you're expressing these little details that is disqualifying you from lover boy status. I know you normally got this down but I'm guessing these vegas girls need a little bit more swag sprinkled on top. For example, I didn't like how you were bantering about past breakups that just doesn't sound like the right frequency you want to be on to turn up the heat quickly. I think the LMR was a product of this dynamic. I just see too much detail about small talk opposed to some fun teasing, prizing, and overall high octane shenanigans. 

But overall seems like you were 95% there  and I like the texting a lot ;)  

Yeah, you're right. I think talking about past relationships is totally normal, but I think there needs to be more teasing, prizing, and overall higher octane shenanigans FOR SURE. Inject more fun into the dates n stuff. 

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Cool, I try to avoid the

Cool, I try to avoid the relationship topic as well, try to shift the topic on hookups. 

Aequitas, is that your second training with MW?

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Naw first timer. I'm not

Naw first timer. I'm not saying lead in and have relationships dominate the convo but if it gets brought up or whatever I don't mind chatting about it for a bit. To me that shouldn't derail a fast lay in and of itself, provided the vibe / dynamic is generally primarily still light hearted, fun, and teasing still. But can see how those types of convos can dampen or bring a seriousness to the convo. I also get why it's just easier to stay clear of the topic. 

Or am I being hard headed rn?? lol. 

Edit: eh I think I'm just being hard headed and should prolly just stay clear of those relationship convos if I can. Ya good call guys. 

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I only read the first two

I only read the first two sections of the convo- but from what I've read, how the guys are describing it as well as your description of it, it's essentially going the "nice guy route to seduction" (which doesn't exist), or you are simply trying to play it safe by not showing too much interest before she has a chance to reject you or not. Both clearly gay and based on a lower paradigm. 

You need to act, BE more attractive. More assuming of "everything good". This is a long-term all-encompassing personal communication upgrade. You don't need to be looking around anymore waiting for every girl to slap you. You got a full armament of everything you need. Time to upgrade your vision of yourself. 

You can even let girls playfully reject you, it's hilarious and fun and only gives y'all more cover 'n concealment ;) 

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Manwhore wrote: I only read

Manwhore wrote:
I only read the first two sections of the convo- but from what I've read, how the guys are describing it as well as your description of it, it's essentially going the "nice guy route to seduction" (which doesn't exist), or you are simply trying to play it safe by not showing too much interest before she has a chance to reject you or not. Both clearly gay and based on a lower paradigm. 

You need to act, BE more attractive. More assuming of "everything good". This is a long-term all-encompassing personal communication upgrade. You don't need to be looking around anymore waiting for every girl to slap you. You got a full armament of everything you need. Time to upgrade your vision of yourself. 

You can even let girls playfully reject you, it's hilarious and fun and only gives y'all more cover 'n concealment ;) 

Dammit. Knew I was being hard headed lol. You right. 

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Aequitas where do you play

Aequitas where do you play poker? I'm a 1/3 reg at Belagio so if you play there we probably played together.

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Were you there the night of

Were you there the night of the shooting? 

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Bad_Lieutenant wrote:
Aequitas where do you play poker? I'm a 1/3 reg at Belagio so if you play there we probably played together.

Naw haven't played there yet, I'mma reg at 1/3 Aria tho. Games are pretty soft there. I assume games are pretty soft at Bellagio too? What's rake? 

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Manwhore wrote: Were you

Manwhore wrote:
Were you there the night of the shooting? 

I was at home, didn't feel like playing poker that day. Didn't even know about the shooting until Monday morning.

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Bellagio is definitely soft.

Bellagio is definitely soft. You must be a crusher if you think Aria games are soft. Every time I play there there's a table full of grinders wearing hoodies and headphones. I'm not saying the game can't be beaten but it requires more effort and a different approach.

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I'd say I'm ok. I mean I

I'd say I'm ok. I mean I generally only target the softest crowd at the Aria. (i.e. Weekends from 8 pm - 4 am) 

I'm pretty familiar with most the regulars at $1/3 and $2/5, so I generally try to stay outta pots with them since it can be a real grind, however when I get it in with them it does lead to some decent leveling 'cuz of that familiarity. Generally at $1/3, they tend to be the only ones making a move on is profitable because they'll actually be able to understand the narrative you're portraying as opposed to those kids who saw WSOP a few times and want to make that hero call lol. So far I've been on the right side of that, but it's for sure tougher facing the same ppl over n over. Haven't really been out pokering in about 2 months now tho :( 

Kinda just been doing my thing at Craps table now if I strike out after a night out at the clubs and it's like 4-5am lol. Craps has kinda become my new vice while I take training since it is generally shorter n sweeter as opposed to the long 6 - 10 hour sessions I'd normally put in Poker. 

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Nut in your mouth

Wayyy too much talking, not enough doing. You're not being dominate enough. She gave you a huge indicator of interest in sucking your dick when you mentioned you used to be a trouble maker. You're sending too many "it's all good" texts. She's horny dude. Change the convo to more sexual dominance. Utilize the drills homie. Dayuum 

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batehs wrote: Wayyy too much

batehs wrote:
Wayyy too much talking, not enough doing. You're not being dominate enough. She gave you a huge indicator of interest in sucking your dick when you mentioned you used to be a trouble maker. You're sending too many "it's all good" texts. She's horny dude. Change the convo to more sexual dominance. Utilize the drills homie. Dayuum 

DAAAaaAY( . )( . )MN.

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