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Text exchange w/hipster at party I met 4 months ago (props to Cybershot & Buddahgames for last bit of convo)

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I originally met this girl at some party that Buddahgames invited me out to which was pretty epic. My fucked up RAS goes to the one hipster/artsy chick in the room who's standing next to the DJ. Start gaming her, I'm just being chill and beaming her with shit. There's really no agenda behind what i'm doing and she really likes that. Just a mental note. No agenda. Pure buyer mode shit. I got her # tried to get her out. She then hit me up like 4 months later. That's the beauty of leaving a great voicemail. You become like this timeless pimp.

I realized that buddahgames and cybershot were good at getting investment at chicks so I pretty much jacked their threads for the latter part of this conversation. Cool stuff - now starting to understand the power of girls chasing you (which is happening more and more frequently).


Her: 09/30/2012 01:38:54 Hey, nice meeting you :) - Chloe
Me: 09/30/2012 01:58:53 OMG these people can't dance for shit
Her: 09/30/2012 02:01:09 Haha
Me: 09/30/2012 16:32:04 Now I feel like robbing a bank after last night.
Me: 09/30/2012 16:33:19 I need someone to play lookout. What's your schedule look like beb
Her: 09/30/2012 16:57:20 Hey, not around until tuesday whatsup
Me: 09/30/2012 17:09:04 Just picked up my laundry now about to grab some grub
Her: 09/30/2012 17:11:44 Im in the woods, gettin some air
Me: 09/30/2012 17:12:44 Damn thats fuckin awesome. Where did you run off to
Her: 09/30/2012 17:13:47 Rockland, not too far.
Me: 09/30/2012 17:18:47 Lol for some reason an image of a drunken Chloe singing Bon iver into a burnt marshmallow just popped into my head
Her: 09/30/2012 17:19:47 Haha

Her: 10/02/2012 00:49:08 Whats up
Me: 10/02/2012 00:53:15 Doing homework :( How were the woods
Her: 10/02/2012 00:55:06 Sick! Lets chill soon
Me: 10/02/2012 00:59:01 cool. Ill hit you up tomorrow and well figure something out
Her: 10/02/2012 00:59:58 Ok cool, good luck with your homework...
Me: 10/02/2012 01:03:36 Thanks darling
Me: 10/02/2012 14:44:05 What are you up to tonight. Let's grab a drink then afterwards we'll go around and give hipsters wedgies
Her: 10/02/2012 14:47:31 Im sick as fuck. I woke up this morning with a really bad cold :(
Me: 10/02/2012 14:52:27Awww beb do you want me to bring you Airborne. I will take care of you
Her: 10/02/2012 14:54:06 Haha thanks. Ill be ok. Hopefully I'll feel better by tomorrow and we can terrorize the town
Me: 10/02/2012 15:02:19 Rest up and get better :)
Her: 10/02/2012 15:03:03 Thanks.

Me: 10/04/2012 17:59:57 I've really come to hate the Jersey Shore. Fuckin dumb show.
Me: 10/04/2012 18:04:24 About to head to this premiere party for it. how are you feelin beb
Her: 10/04/2012 21:59:29 A lot better. How was the premiere?
Me: 10/04/2012 22:23:55 Im here till 12. what are you doing tomorrow lets go rob an ice cream truck.
Her: 10/04/2012 22:32:25 Im working tomorrow. What about sat or sunday
Me: 10/04/2012 22:36:29 This weekend is crazy for me. if not tomorrow night we can do Monday
Her: 10/04/2012 22:38:29 Oohhh mondays a holiday for me but ill let you know
Me: 10/07/2012 17:48:51 How have you been beb. Ive been at this conference for work all weekend
Her: 10/07/2012 17:50:03 Well that sucks. Ive been good, working a bit
Me: 10/07/2012 17:55:43 I've been here cracking jokes with my bud so it's not that bad.
Me: 10/07/2012 17:56:38 Whats your schedule look like this week we should grab a drink
Her: 10/07/2012 18:34:15 Its busy but flexible. Def drinks

Me: 10/09/2012 19:40:11 Ha just took the L from xyz and I started cracking up in btwn xyz and xyz because of you
Her: 10/09/2012 20:11:38 Nice :)
Me: 10/09/2012 20:15:21 1 2 3 4 5... I'm busy Thursday but let's hang out tomorrow night
Her: 10/09/2012 20:18:17 If im back in town, then im down
Me: 10/09/2012 20:23:19 Where did you run off to this time beb
Her: 10/09/2012 20:26:08 Long island :)
Her: 10/10/2012 17:20:17 Hey, I wont be back tonight
Me: 10/10/2012 17:45:46 no worries. JUST finished cramming for my exam tonight.

Me: 10/12/2012 15:27:17 What's up gangster. Behaving?
Me: 10/17/2012 22:48:04 How have you been beb. I've been crazy busy this past week. I'm already looking forward to the weekend.
Her: 10/17/2012 22:51:17 Hey, yea me too. Workin for some bands for cmj. Fun, but busy.
Me: 10/17/2012 23:01:19 yeah I'm gonna check out a couple of shows this weekend but what are you up to on Sunday

Her: 10/18/2012 02:02:41 Not sure actually
Me: 10/20/2012 17:53:49 How's your day going punkin. Just getting back from class. Im fuckin relieved I'm done for the weekend ;)
Me: 10/23/2012 16:33:41 Hello buba ;)

Her: 02/16/2013 18:30:03 Hey! I was just thinking of you cuz I was at the Gramercy the other night. How you doin? -Chloe
Me: 02/16/2013 18:33:57 Hey cutie hows it's going. I just got home.
Her: 02/16/2013 18:40:12 Hey. From work?
Me: 02/16/2013 18:51:54 Yea I had to finish this project
Her: 02/16/2013 19:10:54 Ah
Me: 02/16/2013 19:13:25 Btw what happened to you
Her: 02/16/2013 19:17:00 Meh. I moved out of my place and it was a whole hassle for a while
Me: 02/16/2013 19:18:12 O I thought you were taken for ransom ;)
Her: 02/16/2013 19:40:51 Not yet. We should chill though
Me: 02/16/2013 19:45:21 Ya...this texting shit is too nerdy for me. Lets grab a drink
Her: 02/16/2013 19:51:25 Nerdy haha. I'll be in the city tomorrow night...that work?
Me: 02/16/2013 19:54:17 Tomorrow night in the city sounds hectic beb...Come to hipsterville... Way more fun out here
Her: 02/16/2013 19:54:44 Willy?
Her: 02/16/2013 19:54:52 Where do you even live?
Me: 02/16/2013 19:56:25 Nah. "REAL" hipsterville - I live a block from the L XYZ
Her: 02/16/2013 19:56:43 Oh the real shit
Me: 02/16/2013 20:00:04 Yah i I give it until summer until it turns into Bedford though
Her: 02/16/2013 20:03:37 Yea no joke. I used to live right off the xyz stop
Me: 02/16/2013 20:06:33 Where did you live now
Me: 02/16/2013 20:07:04 do*
Her: 02/16/2013 20:09:13 Couch surfing

Me: 02/21/2013 16:59:30 Helped an old lady cross a street. I feel 26-28% more awesome
Her: 02/21/2013 17:00:35 Points.
Her: 02/22/2013 19:16:47 I'm having a xyz party tomorrow night. Costume party for 800 people. Come!

I didn't hit her back. I would say mental block but I wasn't sure whether my bottom bitch was going to be around or not and maintaining a 2 -5 rotation is ridiculously important to me. I can just hit her up tomorrow and see what's up. I'm not really excited about going out but at the moment day 2s > going out at night since I hardly ever go on day 2s.
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Hate to bust your bubble homy
Hate to bust your bubble homy but she wasn't chasing you.

I don't know what it is man but you just can't seem to cut out the old shit... Give me your phone tonight and I'll get a date out of this chick 100% for you. She wants it you just aren't letting it happen.

Seriously- give me your phone and I'll get this d2 hammerd out for you.
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This girl is definitely
This girl is definitely invested, this could clearly happen. She's coming up with ideas and even inviting you out. What EXACTLY do you want to have happen here? I think the issue is you're not quite sure and so you can't shape it well enough.
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Whats the old shit i need to
Whats the old shit i need to cut out. I guess I got the semantics wrong but she's definitely invested like Manwhore says..which usually doesn't happen because I don't allow the interactions to breathe..

buddhagames wrote:
Hate to bust your bubble homy but she wasn't chasing you.

I don't know what it is man but you just can't seem to cut out the old shit... Give me your phone tonight and I'll get a date out of this chick 100% for you. She wants it you just aren't letting it happen.

Seriously- give me your phone and I'll get this d2 hammerd out for you.
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Damn you got me read like the
Damn you got me read like the back of your palm..The issue is yea I'm not sure.

Obviously I want the meetup but yes you're right I wasnt sure. I'm not down w/the costume party. Rather have an old-fashioned Day 2 somewhere in my neighborhood and get used to that. Yes a lay is a lay but going to a party seems like chaos.

Manwhore wrote:
This girl is definitely invested, this could clearly happen. She's coming up with ideas and even inviting you out. What EXACTLY do you want to have happen here? I think the issue is you're not quite sure and so you can't shape it well enough.
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Ok so what are the logistical
Ok so what are the logistical difficulties here? Does she live far away? does her schedule only allow for weekends?
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she's couch surfing so I'm
she's couch surfing so I'm assuming where she lives alters. it sounded like she was in between jobs or was an artist or some shit like that.

i need to stop being a vagina and manage the situation more appropriately.

i'll just call her tomorrow and set something up.
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Ok i have to admit I don't know what's going on. Need help!
So I call and leave a voicemail because I am a Manwhore text game 101 dropout. If this was the 90s I swear - I would be killing it but it's not everyone has a cell phone and to call is weird. I feel very confident on the phone and in-person, i've never really been a "writer".

Her: 02/25/2013 18:30:46 Exhausted. But you missed a great party!
Me: 02/25/2013 18:33:44 Ya I had to be up early beb. What costume did you wear to the party
Her: 02/26/2013 14:29:31 I was a purple super hero
Her: 02/26/2013 14:29:31 I was mostly working my ass off and people thought I was dressed as a security guard cuz I was wearing a radio so I eventually just went with that
Her: 02/26/2013 14:29:31 Anyway, when we getting drinks :)
Me: 02/26/2013 14:37:42 Ha fyi Barney is not a superhero ;). Lets grab a drink tonight at 9 in hipsterville
Me: 02/26/2013 16:19:56 Fuck. Sorry lets postpone I forgot I already had plans tonight beb.
Me: 02/26/2013 16:21:23 Let me know when you are free for drinks and we'll figure something out
Her: 02/26/2013 16:27:24 Ok perfect tonight is no good anyway

As soon as I sent the text message "Lets grab a drink tonight" it felt wrong - i was like fuck. I should have asked her when she was free and then made plans like that.

Someone help the poor bloke out. I mean like seriously. I don't completely understand what the fuck I'm doing. I swear I feel like I get so close to the meetup everytime that this shit is a mental block and a rather simple sticking point. It's got to be mental at this point.

Now I know how Shaq felt at the free throw line :(
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I'm starting to feel
I'm starting to feel manwhore's frustration with you.

I have told you COUNTLESS times to get her schedule and NOT do it the night of and your response every time is the most faggot shit I've ever heard...

"That's not me, bro" fuckin a I don't give a shit if it's you- YOU can't seem to get ANY day2's so switch it the fuck up.

I took one of the other sales guys out last night and I was like, "Yo man- you gotta get more of that killer instinct and go after these clients with more of a venegeance and stop trying to build these relationships" and he goes, "Yeah man, but that's just not me"

We continue on in the conversation and he goes, "Yeah I'm trying to hit xx in revenue next month" and I look him dead in the eyes and I go, "Not doing it your way you're not" - I go, "You can absolutely hit xx in revenue next month but you have to listen to me and take some of my advise"

He's finally agreed to listen and I'm going to open up my playbook to him a little bit

So the question is- are you ever going to let yourself be molded? You're a stubborn ass mother fucker and yeah- as much as I write that shit about not getting angry and understanding where you're at... fuck that dude- you make the same mistake OVER AND OVER

God damn.
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One of the biggest indicators
One of the biggest indicators of success in business is speed of implementation....

You're issue is that you hear shit and then you literally DONT CHANGE A THING.

You hear it and then don't do anything with it- at all.

What I want you to do next time you're about to write a text- I want you to sit there and go over everything manwhore and I have told you and DO THAT.... whatever you were going to do- don't do that.

Stop. Breathe. Relax. Maybe it's not you but if it fails- you're no worse off than you are now. So stop. breathe. relax. and do even just ONE thing that we've told you and just implement it immediately. Period.
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"Apart from the pulling and hauling stands what I am, Stands amused, complacent, compassionating, idle, unitary, Looks down, is erect, or bends an arm on an impalpable certain rest, Looking with side-curved head curious what will come next, Both in and out of the game and watching and wondering at it."

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I actually disagree - I can
I actually disagree - I can be molded. Earlier today I was like 'Yea maybe im stubborn and not cut out for this texting stuff' but i'm looking through my phone now and I've consistently asked for 'whats your schedule look like' and not what she's doing that night in 7 out of 8 text convos I've had this month. I will show you this weekend ;).

I'm not Manwhore by any means but my thinking when I sent this out was - hmm if a girl is couch-surfing and asks you for the 3rd time, with 3 texts in a row - when are we getting drinks/chilling soon - in the moment I'm thinking she wants my cock and wants a time and place.

I could see why (Ha fyi Barney is not a superhero ;). Lets grab a drink tonight at 9 in hipsterville) - could come across as anxious as I specified a time day of but suggesting a meetup for that night on a girl who is invested isn't necessarily a bad thing. I'd really like Manwhore's opinion and clarification on this.

I also think Manwhore needs to clarify some stuff (on here or at least in private). Seriously. When i read the following article (http://manwhore.org/advanced-technique-immediate-sexual-day2-set-up) and even look at a lot of Manwhore's text game examples they're day of. Although I'm starting to realize my big flaw is I'm too specific with my meetup plans (i specify a time for the night of - which i realize he doesn't do even when the girl is invested. ).
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Ok she asked you when you
Ok she asked you when you guys were getting drinks, you made a plan then cancelled.. what exactly did you have going on? This girl is definitely down to meet up.
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I agree with me being all
I cancelled for two reasons:

1. I was running low on sleep and would rather bring her out this weekend.
2. I cancelled to "save my ass" so to speak
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This is a funny example,
This is a funny example, because you committed the same "mistake" (shoving your "square peg" text game into a round hole), but it just so happened that in this particular instance, the square peg had a semi-square hole to fit into. But yes you used the same inane meetup invite you use EVERY time, and, you did not figure out her logistics first.

We've told you over and over again to be flexible in how you set up the meetup dynamic, and to figure out logistics first before inviting a girl out. But you don't understand this, and even try to throw the blame elsewhere by bringing up my phone game post from five years ago that has NOTHING to do with the issue here. Yes you are mostly supposed to plan meetups for the same day, maybe Buddha does something different but that's not even the main point anyways. You did the same retarded one size fits all meetup line, and set yourself up for failure by shooting blindly in the dark.
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Actually got a Day2..
Me: 03/01/2013 22:17:39 I'm keeping it extra gangster and partying it up. How about you beb
Her: 03/01/2013 22:18:46 Ooh oh! I'm goin deep tonight at xyz
Me: 03/01/2013 22:20:09 what's going on @ xyz. I am planning on going to abc
Her: 03/01/2013 22:22:23 What's goin on at abc? xyz is having a deep house dance party in the basement. Come over.
Me: 03/01/2013 22:24:34 Theres this party my friend hosts every month. What time does the thing at abc start
Her: 03/01/2013 22:41:21 Starts soon goes till 4
Me: 03/01/2013 22:45:16 Cool. Meet me there around 12:30. Wear something cute so match ;)
Her: 03/01/2013 22:49:44 I'll be there, my friends are all djing
Me: 03/02/2013 00:38:29 Running a little late. Ill be there in like 15 beb
Her: 03/02/2013 12:11:55 Good seeing you last night!
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Penis in mouth?
Penis in mouth?
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You settled for a day2 with
You settled for a day2 with her friends?

Basically you played tag-along... When we got off the phone I told my roommate the situation and he goes, "That doesn't sound like a date" and chuckled...

You are gonna get this handled man and I think it's actually good that you met up with her, it's a really solid first step.

Personally- I woulda ignored that text and hit her up the next day and been like, "Took my buddy out for his birthday-had to get him properly sloshed...what's your schedule like this week, I'll have to make up my absence with a drink and some war stories"

-That's obviously my style of text- you do the whole "gangster" thing which is you're shtick so you can obviously tweak it all to fit in your shit.

Not sure how she'd respond but woulda improvise from there. If she gives you schedule- hone in on it and do it to it.

If she makes a joke in response to your joke- you improvise and inch it closer to the meet, tied in with your joke- but not too aggressive so it all seems part of the fun.
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Yes at this point it should
Yes at this point it should be split up a bit more to focus on each part of the skill set.
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Yeah it was a tag-along.
Yeah it was a tag-along.

Admittedly I knew going in my chances of turning it around were slim given I agreed to the situation and didn't manage logistics. I should have higher standards but I'm butthurt about how bad my text game is. It fuckin pains me that I suck so much.

I don't regret going on the Day 2 - found an awesome neighborhood bar that I feel kinda retarded for not ever going to even though it's in the middle of nowhere.


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You settled for a day2 with her friends?

Basically you played tag-along... When we got off the phone I told my roommate the situation and he goes, "That doesn't sound like a date" and chuckled...

You are gonna get this handled man and I think it's actually good that you met up with her, it's a really solid first step.

Personally- I woulda ignored that text and hit her up the next day and been like, "Took my buddy out for his birthday-had to get him properly sloshed...what's your schedule like this week, I'll have to make up my absence with a drink and some war stories"

-That's obviously my style of text- you do the whole "gangster" thing which is you're shtick so you can obviously tweak it all to fit in your shit.

Not sure how she'd respond but woulda improvise from there. If she gives you schedule- hone in on it and do it to it.

If she makes a joke in response to your joke- you improvise and inch it closer to the meet, tied in with your joke- but not too aggressive so it all seems part of the fun.
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Agreed. I don't understand
Agreed. I don't understand what I'm doing and really don't understand text game. I won't lie - I've been totally disrespecting the art of text game, and I was honestly looking for the next quick fix/stop-gap solution to getting a date. Clearly not working. I don't even have an "authentic" style of humor when I text and I need to find that authentic voice from within. There's a lot of issues regarding my text game and I've been way too lazy.


That being said I've got to take some DRASTIC action to replace this. I'm going to limit my night game (max: 1 night a week) for the next 4 to 6 weeks until I get this text game shit right and start getting dates on the regular. And even after 6 weeks, if I still suck I'll punish myself until I get it right.

At the moment I feel like a one-trick pony and I didn't come into this game to be a one-night stand specialist, I want to be a complete player and I want to have CORE confidence - meaning no matter the situation I know I can confidently close the girl regardless of the situation (whether it be social circle, meet her on the subway/bar/street/club, 30 sec # close, etc). Truly dynamic.

So yea I'm pressing the reset button and staying my ass home until i get this text game shit right. I've honestly either mismanaged the fuck out my time/been too busy with other shit to learn text game and now it's time I pay my dues by reading old text threads and re-reading this text game pdf i picked up, as well as reviewing your notes and analyzing what I was doing wrong and right.

If i can learn to build web apps then I can certainly learn text game.

Just need to dedicate time. Time to hit the reset button and learn text game from the bottom up. It's gonna be a little hard because I've learned a lot of fucked up bad habits and combine that with me usually saying off the wall shit to pretty much everyone I hang out with there's gonna be a challenge lying ahead.

Manwhore wrote:
This is a funny example, because you committed the same "mistake" (shoving your "square peg" text game into a round hole), but it just so happened that in this particular instance, the square peg had a semi-square hole to fit into. But yes you used the same inane meetup invite you use EVERY time, and, you did not figure out her logistics first.

We've told you over and over again to be flexible in how you set up the meetup dynamic, and to figure out logistics first before inviting a girl out. But you don't understand this, and even try to throw the blame elsewhere by bringing up my phone game post from five years ago that has NOTHING to do with the issue here. Yes you are mostly supposed to plan meetups for the same day, maybe Buddha does something different but that's not even the main point anyways. You did the same retarded one size fits all meetup line, and set yourself up for failure by shooting blindly in the dark.
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Katalyst wrote:That being
Katalyst wrote:
That being said I've got to take some DRASTIC action to replace this. I'm going to limit my night game (max: 1 night a week) for the next 4 to 6 weeks until I get this text game shit right and start getting dates on the regular. And even after 6 weeks, if I still suck I'll punish myself until I get it right.


How the FUCK is limiting your nights out going to help your text game? LOL

Who you going to fucking text, bro! Ghostbusters?

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hahahaha I told Katalyst the
hahahaha

I told Katalyst the EXACT same thing when he told me on the phone that he was going to not go out and instead he was going to "Read text game theory and get it handled"

my response

"Nah dude... you need more numbers"


LOL katalyst- you even said on the phone, "Yeah that's true" and then you come on here and basically ignore that part of our conversation- what... did you think manwhore was gonna be like, "Oh sweet man- that's a great idea... stop going out and ready theory so that you have nobody to text and can make theory in your head"
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Guys I approach a lot during
Guys I approach a lot during the day to be honest. The only reason I'm leaning towards limiting time out is that I only have tops 10 to 12 hours a week for the next 2 months to dedicate to pimping because I got to be dedicated to the purpose and see a return on my investment.

But if you guys have an actionable plan you would recommend for me to follow for the next 4 weeks to learn text game from the bottom up I'm all ears.

Buddah I get about 5-10 solid numbers a week - I just don't push all of them to the limit if anything :(. I also have a massive reserve of 100+ solid numbers that I plan on re-engaging via text/voicemail. I figure tops 10 will get back into the funnel.

What's killing my text game is lack of theory and previous analysis which I haven't had time to do. I definitely understand the value of practice (that's like saying you're going to get good at one night stands by watching RSD vids and not approaching).

But damn a player of my quality needs to be getting way more dates and all I know is that something has to change and I have to figure this shit out NOW.
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Yeah, damn dude I forgot that
Yeah, damn dude I forgot that not everyone loses their phone with all of their contacts in it, like at least once every couple months ----------____________________----------

Why don't you push all of your numbers?
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I haven't lost any contacts
I haven't lost any contacts since i got my phone in 2004.

Ha you always lose your phone when you get completely shitfaced. I always read the FR the night you lose your phone and i'm thinking damn lol thats that white boy/Distant Light shit (you'll be like "i woke up in the diner at 9am with no recollection of the previous night" )

I won't lie - I lose a lottt of girls from not being fast (text one then literally forget about following up and also whats dicking me is im SUPER robotic about what/when im texting).

The script in my brain needs to be re-written and I need to stop giving a fuck and let go of outcome to be honest.

I'm scrolling thru my recent text messages and i'm like 7/8/8/7/7/7/8. Only been able to get one out of the last 20. It's so sad :(

Time to hit the books.
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Yah need to learn this shit from the ground up
jeez.

Her: 03/02/2013 12:11:55 Good seeing you last night!
Her: 03/05/2013 11:04AM Sorry I couldn't really chill. Lets hang soon?
Me: 03/05/2013 4:35PM No worries beb. Shoot me your schedule for the week and we'll figure something out.


So two things here. I invested too much by asking for her schedule. She wants to chase and I didn't allow her to do so.

Also if i send such a text - I'm thinking if i sent one sooner rather than later she would have responded.

It's all good. Got a month full of Friday and/or Saturday nights hibernating at home to internalize this stuff. Not looking forward to reading theory and studying text game but this will be good for my game anyways. I'm at the level where micro-calibration shit will start to play a role.
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Shoot me your schedule for
Shoot me your schedule for the week????
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^^^^^^ Yea I'm free Friday
^^^^^^ Yea I'm free Friday night. Come over I'm lonely ;)

Ha no seriously "Shoot me your schedule" is a bad text? Ok I guess a more commanding "give me your schedule" or am I better off asking a more neutral "what's your schedule look like".

The devil for me is the details.
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hahahaha NO dude but
hahahaha NO dude

but seriously I'm only laughing because I really appreciate that you're making an effort but like this isn't a business transaction

There is a difference between these two texts (a HUGE difference)

A: "Shoot me your schedule for the week"

B: "Hey beb, what's your schedule like this week"

Do you see the difference?
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"Apart from the pulling and hauling stands what I am, Stands amused, complacent, compassionating, idle, unitary, Looks down, is erect, or bends an arm on an impalpable certain rest, Looking with side-curved head curious what will come next, Both in and out of the game and watching and wondering at it."

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(Just as a side note- if she
(Just as a side note- if she hasn't responded to that already... I'd shoot her a text making fun of yourself- something like, "Also- I expect your resume and references in order, so that we can schedule a meeting as soon as possible ; b")

Okay, I thought this one through and realized exactly how I would have responded if she sent me that same exact text- and I'll put in some nerdy breakdownish stuff so you see where I'm coming from.

Her: Sorry I couldn't really chill. Lets hang soon?

Okay, so with what you wrote- you're rewarding her non-compliance. She behaved poorly and you are responding by giving an ioi AND asking for compliance- you have to also realize that even when you ASK for compliance, you are GIVING an ioi (You asked for theory bro- you're gonna get some fuckin theory... there IS a method to madness- even when it looks like I'm just some wasted frat boy ; )

So the first text I would have done involves one of two things:

1. A LONG-TERM freezeout: At minimum 24 hours (This is often best- because sometimes it's hard to lean in on someone right after they are apologizing or trying to make good on something they feel bad about- but it doesn't mean you should immediately forgive them)- at this point, this kinda thing isn't really "structured" for me, I do it naturally but I still understand the nerd behind it.

2. Light teasing- or direct teasing with an immediate text sent after it with a calibrator - make it playfully accusatory if you can but there are many ways to execute this

From there- I would add value for 1 or 2 texts- don't bring up hanging out again just have your next few texts JAM PACKED with value

If you're coming directly out of a freezeout- open with value- don't ask or give compliance, just add value- it's an ioi but it's the best form of an ioi you can give at this point and it says, "Look I forgive you- we're cool but don't do that shit again"

THEN

after you add value for 1 or 2 texts- I'd go in with, "So anyway beb, what's your schedule like this week"- the key here is also that you want to be sending this text WHEN YOU HAVE COMPLIANCE

You can't send this text right after non-compliance or a iod by her


Oh- also just as a sidenote: Everything I wrote here can be broken and doesn't really matter that much
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"Apart from the pulling and hauling stands what I am, Stands amused, complacent, compassionating, idle, unitary, Looks down, is erect, or bends an arm on an impalpable certain rest, Looking with side-curved head curious what will come next, Both in and out of the game and watching and wondering at it."

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^^^internalized. Yea you know
^^^internalized. Yea you know its a matter of trusting my instinct which is something I've yet to do in text game and something I should start doing. I basically rewarded bad behavior.

I like the 24hr freeze-out rule - she would have been more likely to fret and I would have allowed her to experience a wide range of emotions. It's also incongruent of me (with how much value i'm starting to realize I provide these chicks - it's like smacking me in the face NOW how money i am, before i was faking it but now it's like the inner game has to catch up with the outer game for it to compeletely CLICK) to IOI her immediately. She clearly has shown multiple times during this interaction that she wants to chase a higher value guy like myself so I'm essentially shooting my self in the foot by giving her a IOI.

btw ya i see the difference, one is emotionless and almost logical, while the other slightly spikes emotions and is playful. Me forcing myself to learn text game and theory might be the best thing I can do for my game at this point given how many cuties/hotties I'm hitting up on.

Some of these girls i talk to are so fuckin cute. Buddah we're blessed to live in NYC. Like Vegas/LA/Miami look great but idk NYC - if you make it here you can make it anywhere.

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hahahaha NO dude

but seriously I'm only laughing because I really appreciate that you're making an effort but like this isn't a business transaction

There is a difference between these two texts (a HUGE difference)

A: "Shoot me your schedule for the week"

B: "Hey beb, what's your schedule like this week"

Do you see the difference?


Ya mann I ain't exactly the smartest but you can be damn sure I'll do whatever it takes to get the job done.
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Just so YOU know. It really
Just so YOU know.

It really fucking pisses me off when you say shit like, "I ain't exactly the smartest" - I don't know why but it bugs the shit out of me man and makes me want to punch you in the face
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"Apart from the pulling and hauling stands what I am, Stands amused, complacent, compassionating, idle, unitary, Looks down, is erect, or bends an arm on an impalpable certain rest, Looking with side-curved head curious what will come next, Both in and out of the game and watching and wondering at it."

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k hold on. Kobe eat your
k hold on. Kobe eat your spinach, and.. GO
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No man. I obviously don't
No man. I obviously don't want to fight anyone .... Katalyst is one of my best boys

What I want for Katalyst is for him to stop saying/writing/thinking/bathin in self-defeating shit and always writing as if he's mr. humble or some weird shit... Like you're the man yo- When I kick it with you, we have some serious fuckin fun. You're one of the best dudes on this forum but it's like you're always just like, "Yeah, I'll try harder" "Yeah, I'm not that smart but I'll get it" "I can be a dumbass sometimes but I'll do it"- like FUCK yo- you really do think your dumb and that's fucking disgusting, cause you're not. But like there are just so many posts where you call yourself dumb- and then you have issues learning shit and you wonder why... maybe it's because you think your dumb and you think that the only way you're going to learn something is by putting in more hours than anyone else- but maybe this doesn't have to be the case if you actually believed you were smart and could quickly "get" things.

And seriously man- I'm not trying to be a dick- but your one of my boys and this bugs me sometimes- and maybe it's just you and that's all cool but yeah... love you man but had to say this shit.
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"Apart from the pulling and hauling stands what I am, Stands amused, complacent, compassionating, idle, unitary, Looks down, is erect, or bends an arm on an impalpable certain rest, Looking with side-curved head curious what will come next, Both in and out of the game and watching and wondering at it."

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By the way- there are also
By the way- there are also some amazing traits you have- most insane determination, resilience and ability to go through the process of almost anyone I know.

There's just one issue that bugs me. We can chat this weekend when we hit it.
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It's Just Something You Have To Do If You Want To Be Great- Manwhore

"Apart from the pulling and hauling stands what I am, Stands amused, complacent, compassionating, idle, unitary, Looks down, is erect, or bends an arm on an impalpable certain rest, Looking with side-curved head curious what will come next, Both in and out of the game and watching and wondering at it."