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MW told me to post and learn to become more creative, engaging and cocky
Seems like simply reading your awesome convos is not the best learning curve for me. 

We've been texting for like 2-3 weeks by now: 
I tried to get her out a few times so far, she agreed and flaked once.
So I re-engaged her yesterday again. 

Me: [Pic about a box of kick scooter] 
Me: Xmas came early) ( round brackets are the Russian smiley) 
1 day later
Her: Cool
Me: Ya, they might ban scooters in the X if I keep on cruising like today haha
Me: So whats up with your new job
Her: Ha ha I was always dreaming about one
Her: My first week was okay, it is too early to give any feedback
Me:  And were you too chicken to get one?
Me: In XXX used to inline skate. That was Wild.
Me: Here I'm totally calm and safe haha

That was my analyses:

So my plan was to chat about this a bit more and say my flatmate has another kick scooter and we should roll in da city^^. Or something like inline skating or renting bicycles. Could be a great date, ending up at mine...
 
I guess it came across as somewhat insulting and also probably creating this competition frame we've talked about. Also, probably ignoring her job text in this combination wasn't helpful. 

Now I would roll with: 
Me: so what's holding you back babybutt? :)
Me: I didn't know it's that much fun, I did only inline skating and cycling before 

I guess back to the good old value, reengagement text and try again a bit later lol 

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Naw bro post up the earlier

Naw bro post up the earlier part of the convo so the guys can see how bad you suck.

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Yeah too casually insulting.

Yeah too casually insulting. You NEED to always establish sort of intimate vibe.

I mean this is SO OBVIOUS it's painful. And it's NOT because I'm a biker and would intrinsically recognize this shit it's because I recognize opportunities, PERIOD.

You have a scooter she's always wanted to get one and you don't offer to take her for a ride? You anus

But I say this and I KNOW you'd try to jump the gun and craft a scooter invite in some weirdly off putting way lol. So don't. Because you fucked up you have to rebuild back up to recreate the opportunity.

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sometimes I'm not sure if I

sometimes I'm not sure if I completely fuck up or you misread the text or my description lol 

it's not a real scooter, I see the opportunity for sure with it as well, just I didn't want to jump on it first. It would go against your 4 to 1 rule for invitation and you said I'm too eager anyways so thought just talk a bit more and then invite her out. 

https://www.google.com/search?q=kick+scooter&pws=0&gl=us&gws_rd=cr

Manwhore wrote:
Yeah too casually insulting. You NEED to always establish sort of intimate vibe.

looking into learning it, man...

It'd probably make more sense to post other convos as we've briefly talked about this already and I can showcase sucky and uncreative text examples on mucho occasions lol. Anyways, here we go.

 

Then I sent the kick scooter box pic and you see the convo... 

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That 4 to 1 ratio is a great

That 4 to 1 ratio is a great guideline but rules were meant to be broken. In this case, ya you should've fucked the 4 to 1 thing and offered her a ride. 

That's like a girl wanting to give you a blowjob in the back of an alleyway after the first 10min but you say no because you haven't qualified her yet....

lol.

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Thanks Jihad! yeah,  the last

Thanks Jihad!

yeah,  the last 2 convos I posted I was too eager, so I tried to be consciously slow down here. I thought I'm clever, not jumping on it fast hahaa.

but any tips on becoming more creative and engaging?

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Feels like you are the one

Feels like you are the one doing all the work and she is responding casually when she wants.

It's like you are making so much easy for her to be boring. An example of that is when she asks hows your day going. You give your answer and then you answer for her. So she can just say "correct". Let her answer by herself dude, and then you can stack a fun comment on what she is saying, or maybe pushing her away a bit, and now she is the one qualifying herself to you and trying to met your standards.

So, you invited her for drinks and she said "True, like Sunday?" and you didn't reply her. You took like 15 hours to reply. That's okay if you really didn't checked your phone. But you didn't need to attenuate it saying you sleep like a lion. And then sending a meme. Now she is even pretending you didn't invite her out. Best would be if you can schedule at the time she metioned "like sunday?". But if you really couldn't then don't diffuse it. Just answer her question and wait. And if she doesn't answer doesn't change subject, send "need to know if that's going to happen sweetie". It seemed like you was afraid of her not getting back to you the whole time.

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Thanks man, yeah I learned

Thanks man, yeah I learned from that 'correct' answer haha you can see it in my first post she answered more then 'fine'...

Oh, sorry, 1 pic was missing here at the end, my bad...

So after that she didn't answer and a couple of days later I hit her up again with the scooter pic. 

Yeah, makes sense, thanks. My twisted logic was that I will use the logistics for bridging the time gap until Sunday.  Less texting fewer opportunities to fuck up haha. But yeah I see now already why it's an issue.

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Daddyjihad1 (not verified)
Have you read 19 Rule of Text

Have you read 19 Rule of Text Game on the forum?

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yeah, quite a few times (and

yeah, quite a few times (and just reread it). My 4:1 rule reference was from there too, bro. 

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Daddyjihad1 (not verified)
Asked cause your screenshots

Asked cause your screenshots don't match up with that. But if you re-read it cool. Also, this date was never on with this girl, bro. 

She never agreed to going out with you and she read the message too. 

Don't think you have a problem with creativity but definitely a problem with engagement. If a girl isn't giving you anything, why would you reward her with more of your awesomeness?

Exhibit A:

You: Still open discussing w a buddy, U?

Her: Thinking

You: You ladies can tag along

Nah, i'd tease the hell out of her for being a lame lil barn of yarn, maybe some kitty will play with her tonight ;)

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Something else that helps

Something else that helps text game as a by product. You need to be hitting up more girls, getting more numbers. When you do this its less time thinking about what you are going to text and more getting down to business. Ie meeting and fucking. Simply bc you don't have time for dicking around anymore. Make sense?

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I hit her up with a

Thank guys, I really appreciate it. Text game is great, I can objectively learn what's goin on...

I hit her up with a reengagment on Thanksgiving, no asnwer.

This Wednesday.

Me: [PIC] we celebrate 'Santa' today in XY. That is me 2 years ago :)

Her: And who are you this year?

Her: Hello

Me: I just stayed myself, went to an all you can eat, so worked on the belly to become more like santa haha

Her: Never been to all you can eat restaurants here

Her: How is your day

Me: Was fun to catch up with a buddy over 6 course dish haha

Me: Great, was a champ at work, and will Skype a US friend soon. Yours?

Her: I was at XY bar, had a company event there

Her: Going home finally

 

next day

Me: oh the company year closing, Christmas thing? those can be real fun :D

Her: Not really

Her: A head of HR organized an event

Her: It was mostly about knowing the company and bla bla

Her: Christmas will be later

 

next day - Friday

Me: seems like they care about you (and your free time :D)

I was pretty sure that she won't answer here, but I thought I can hit her up later without being needy or anything and had to go.

2 hours later 

Me: for some odd reasons I quite enjoy this rainy weather now. very relaxin'

Me: how are your weekend plans 

- she was quite engaged so I thought it's a good time for another invitation

Her: I would enjoy as well if I wouldn’t need to visit a friend of mine who has just moved to a new apartment

Her: Not sure, some reading, shopping, sleeping

Her: And what about your plans?

Me: at least no need to water the plant, what we usually give as a gift this time :)

Me: I'm working on an exciting project tomorrow, but let's play pool on Sunday that's rain independent

I just sent it, we'll see. will keep this updated.

Coming to think about it, I would've qualified her more at some point. It's was pretty much all the time

chitchat - me trying to get her out and screwing up- reengage - chitchat - invitation. 

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You have zero man to woman

You have zero man to woman here. Zero

This is platonic, and gay

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Not sure how long you’ve been

Not sure how long you’ve been training with mw but this is friend zone stuff man. You can’t be answering every text so directly. Tell her she should tell her boss, instead of financial bonuses ask for limo parties, with pizza, brownies, champagne. Oh, don’t forget to pick me up. Better be on time!

Something like this instead of “how was your first week”. Keep it light and sprinkle in some of the direct stuff 

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batehs wrote: Not sure how

batehs wrote:
Not sure how long you’ve been training with mw but this is friend zone stuff man. 

:'(

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Think about our conversation

Think about our conversation yesterday, Bonobo. Are you applying it here? 

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Manwhore wrote:Think about

Manwhore wrote:
Think about our conversation yesterday, Bonobo. Are you applying it here? 

Yeah, when I read your first comment, I was like derp, it's related to our topic yesterday.
I'm actually aware of the issue for like 6 years,..
 
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You can’t be answering every text so directly. 

thanks bateh, that is a good pointer. like no matter what's goin on, what matters is where I want to take the conversation. 
 
My logical brain doesn't help here, but it's not the issue, it just manifests on the surface like that. So when I'm less logical it happens less. 
BTW I think MW does an excellent job at bringing fun without reducing the logical, professional aspect of our work. 
 
Great example, showcasing the inner mentality behind it. Cheers
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Tell her she should tell her boss, instead of financial bonuses ask for limo parties, with pizza, brownies, champagne. Oh, don’t forget to pick me up. Better be on time! 

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Yeah dude that’s every guys

Yeah dude that’s every guys natural inclination. You’re doing fine. But chicks have a different brain. Must be dealt with accordingly.

Not a hit on manhog AT ALL! Do those drills more than when Skyping. Twice, three times a day! Then use that stuff in field or over text. Be anything but logical, you know. Go OVERBOARD! Then you can dial it back as you meet knew girls.

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yeah good point, I often

yeah good point, I often barely hit the minimum drills... gonna go harder.

and yeah, she did not respond. 

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The more numbers you get the

The more numbers you get the more you can practice. Keep that in mind. Hang in there bud, it’s worth it 

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Your conversation is

Your conversation is lifeless. There's no play. You're shaking her hand with a limp wrist, like your grandma trying to give you a handjob, boy. 

"Man to woman" is congruence with your biology. 

You're taking command of her body during physical intimacy. Uncovering revealing, spreading wide, penetrating. Sex is dominance, is devouring, is surrender (for a woman).   

Do the same thing in conversation. Step up, make her feel you. Shape her emotions, her behavior, her logistics. Take control, sweep her off her feet, whisk her away on a romantic adventure, a magic carpet ride across the beautiful existential landscape of reality..

Then sacrifice her to your cock.  

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"just visited family, mom

"just visited family, mom showed some pics about their moscow trip"

oh man, you could have used this as ammo in so many ways. "mom just came back from her moscow trip. she had matryoshka dolls stuffed with weed. every. single. one."

and if you didn't you could have at least worked with her: "indeed, russian culture is different compared to europe." you could send her that pic of putin riding a bear and say something like: "yeah we don't ride bears over here. i bet you could ride a dragon if you had to. and i just happen to be wearing a dragon costume for halloween."

now take this with a grain of salt. there are much much more experienced people who will give you better advice but i am trying to widen your horizons in terms of not being so stuck in logical conversation.

you don't make a sentence interesting by adding "awesome" to chamomile tea. look around for inspiration and work with whatever is happening... lets say there is bad weather outside and you live in the same town so you can be like: "just watching that postapocalyptic sky. i expect zombies to come out any minute now."

althought my experience with this bad shit crazy type of texting is that you have to read the girl when you meet her. a lot of them seem to be too stuck in logical convo themselves and will not respond to this very well. at least thats the case for me, being based in central europe.

also have a plan of where you're headed with the convo. some texts might work on their own but will not push the seduction forward. send too many of those in a row and you're stuck in a rut.

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Great advice guys, mucho

Great advice guys, mucho thanks.

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