tricks to improve conversation?
so i noticed a pattern and got a bit mad about myself today... it seems that when the girl is talkative, i can often open her well and things move along nicely. but when she's not giving me much, even in the case of shy but interested girls i am getting stuck soon, and have no idea where to lead the conversation. it's like my brain freezes a little and that free flow of convo that happens with more talkative girls is just not there. i know that it's not important what you say, that it's all about the subcommunication but you still have to say something... and i hope that there's a way to speed up the process instead of just doing hundreds of approaches.
altho i know that also plays a role - as i am starting to notice certain patterns with girls that are useful for coming up with new topics. and yes, i understand that mw probably has some killer drills for that, but i can't afford his coaching right now. although i am working on a career change so it's hopefully in the cards.
I reckon looking them in the eye more helps the flow rather than looking away as you sort of try to think more when you look away which then paradoxically fucks you up more. The more eye to eye the more natural it becomes, in my experiences anyway
It's a massive part of game learning/development, the more you approach and attempt to get laid the more and more you face it. Seems to me you're not actually approaching that much. And yes it's a large part of my training program, and no I won't be giving out my drills ;). But hey, learn some routines bro! Or better yet watch some Rsdn videos they'll make you feel like you've got game! Haha
I go in and I'm crisp, clean and my vocals are fucking coming out like music. - Anonymous MW student
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It's a massive part of game learning/development, the more you approach and attempt to get laid the more and more you face it. Seems to me you're not actually approaching that much. And yes it's a large part of my training program, and no I won't be giving out my drills ;). But hey, learn some routines bro! Or better yet watch some Rsdn videos they'll make you feel like you've got game! Haha
fuck that. routines are so 2006 :}
i think i do a couple of approaches a week. generally when i set aside some time, and do a couple in a row it tends to get better. i just dont give a fuck. but first approach which is sometimes all i get in DG when im running errands, very often sucks.
Yep sounds about right. Not giving a fuck is the plight of the majority of humanity. Which is why most people are fat, lazy, worthless assholes. Visualize how the rest of your life, all areas, will go if you keep "not giving a fuck".
I go in and I'm crisp, clean and my vocals are fucking coming out like music. - Anonymous MW student
- Autismus Terminus Finis (Root Cause/Cure of Autism Epidemic)
- Called Off My Wedding & Other Turn Tail Signs Of The American Male
haha, i think i've been misunderstood. im quite the opposite of what you describe. what i mean by not giving a fuck was that when i do a couple of approaches in row i usually stop giving a fuck what the girl thinks, and thats often when the magic happens. but i think that if i flip your message around, that can be helpful - i should work with positive visualisations of what's gonna happen when i keep at it, and how it's going to look when i do things well... just reprogram my expectations. i've actually always done that in one area of my life, and it's given me unbelievable amount of certainty in my future success there.
Ok but to improve any sort of consistency or develop any permanence in this skill set you must do more approaches. A couple approaches a week is shit, mang
I go in and I'm crisp, clean and my vocals are fucking coming out like music. - Anonymous MW student
- Autismus Terminus Finis (Root Cause/Cure of Autism Epidemic)
- Called Off My Wedding & Other Turn Tail Signs Of The American Male
wtf...i actually fell into your frame. i am actually always sure that if i keep at things, i'll eventually get more than good. it has been proven time, and time again. i do believe the same is going to happen with pickup but that doesn't stop me from wondering if there are better ways how to approach things to learn faster.
yeah, i know you're right. i am just trying to juggle several issues that slow the progress down massively. i understand that this is exactly where your coaching would probably help massively, and it is among my motivations to change career from place where i already stalled so i can afford that. working on that bit already.
There's nothing wrong with "falling into my frame" lol! C'mon dude.. I'm a world class coach, you're going to be alright ;) this isn't an ego battle.
I go in and I'm crisp, clean and my vocals are fucking coming out like music. - Anonymous MW student
- Autismus Terminus Finis (Root Cause/Cure of Autism Epidemic)
- Called Off My Wedding & Other Turn Tail Signs Of The American Male
lol, i wasn't trying to fight you. i was just surprised how much i was affected by what you said for a little moment... even to a point of almost forgeting who i actually am. still thanks, some good points there. fuck the issues, i am going to do DG every day next week. thanks you world class coach you ;b
;) :p
I go in and I'm crisp, clean and my vocals are fucking coming out like music. - Anonymous MW student
- Autismus Terminus Finis (Root Cause/Cure of Autism Epidemic)
- Called Off My Wedding & Other Turn Tail Signs Of The American Male
You've got to do wayyyy more approaches than a couple a week. I'm not even warmed up till after my about 6th approach. Sometimes sooner but your not gonna get ANYWHERE with that.