Unresponsive Girls
So last night i approached this super fucking hot 18yr old who was siiting outside a club with four girlfriends. Right from the get go she was being somewhat rude and giving me very short answers to my questions. This gave me very little wiggle room in regards to shaping/expanding the conversation. I could tell she was somewhat interested in me as she never told me to fuck off and i had been talking to her for about 15minutes. There were a couple of moments where her face lit up and she showed some emotion but the set never actually hooked. Her friends must have liked me because they commented several times on our interaction by telling the girl that shes being rude and is always so rude to strangers.
When they got up to leave i decided to go for the number but she blew it off pretty swiftly and walked away with her friends. Was it a mistake to go for the number when the set never hooked?
How do you guys deal with a girl who is making the conversation extremely dificult? I find it gets to a point where theres alot of silence and shes just sitting there waiting to see what you ask next, its definitely a high pressure situation lol.
Thought i would add that it was 1:30am, they were drinking coffee and finished partying for the night.
I found that i was countering her rudeness/unreactiveness with lots of small negs and jabs. For example i seen that there was a some cotton stuck in her hair so i point & tell her shes "got some shit in her hair". She then asks me to get it out for her(ioi?)but i tell her "Theres no way im touching that nasty crap" and shes forced to get it out herself.
Thoughts?
LOL Dude, did you DHV her? Tell her about your stripper ex-girlfriend and her ferrari.
Well you definitely needed more conversational dominance. And open-ended questions would have helped haha. Also, you need to start drawing from your life and sharing.. this gets people to trust you and open up themselves. You probably weren't doing enough of the talking, just expecting her to share without you doing it first. I'm just speculating here obviously, you didn't give a lot of detail, but yes that is how you handle difficult girls.
I go in and I'm crisp, clean and my vocals are fucking coming out like music. - Anonymous MW student
- Autismus Terminus Finis (Root Cause/Cure of Autism Epidemic)
- Called Off My Wedding & Other Turn Tail Signs Of The American Male
Be nice Infinity, hehe
I go in and I'm crisp, clean and my vocals are fucking coming out like music. - Anonymous MW student
- Autismus Terminus Finis (Root Cause/Cure of Autism Epidemic)
- Called Off My Wedding & Other Turn Tail Signs Of The American Male
haha really? Ive come from rsd so this kind of thing has never been advised,
EDIT: Was talking to infinity if that wasnt clear.
Thanks for the reply Manwhore. Youre pretty spot on here now that i think about it. Most of my questions were interview mode with probably 10% of them being open ended. It definitely felt like interview mode wasnt going to cut it in this situation because of the yes/no dynamic we had fallen into.
Great point about sharing my own life experiences with her. Looking back i see alot of opportunitys for this that i completely missed for example when she told me shes saving money to go back to cali at the end of they year I should have rambled on about how ive always wanted to go to cali since theres so many badass songs about the damn place. Then i could ramble on about how i like hip hop and then ask what hip hop artists she likes?
EDIT: That may not be the greatest example of sharing myself with her. Maybe because she revealed something about her life(going to cali) i should keep the focus on cali for a bit longer rather than rambling on about some hip hop bs?
That's more verbal vomiting and thread cutting. Not really "sharing"
I go in and I'm crisp, clean and my vocals are fucking coming out like music. - Anonymous MW student
- Autismus Terminus Finis (Root Cause/Cure of Autism Epidemic)
- Called Off My Wedding & Other Turn Tail Signs Of The American Male
Yeah have to agree rambling on about hip hop does sound retarded and i actually dont even converse like that. I feel like my first line about always wanting to go to cali because of all the dope songs about it(would say this in humerous way) was ok though and id assume that is casified as "sharing"? I would probably follow up that line with a moment of silence to see if she resonds, If not i would probably ask her why shes going to cali?
Don't listen to infant-y, he's just DHVing himself by throwing a couple negs about the "ioi"s (dink lol). You should change your name to "easy Mark"
And fuck the "ioi"s btw. If you're looking to her to show interest you're stepping out of your power a bit by seeking validation. Better to just assume attraction.
Yeah i was pretty sure he was fucking with me but thought id be polite since im new here.
I get "ioi" and all that stuff is outdated but for lack of a better term i still think it serves its purpose. I think they are important as clues to allow you to move the interaction forward. As an extreme example, if a girl is grabbing your hand and putting it on her pussy on the dance floor then thats a pretty god indicator that you should grab this chick by the arm and pull her to the nearest bush/car/public toilet.
In the example i gave in the op, the fact that she asked me to get the shit out of her hair could be enough to make me plow with her instead of hitting on her other hot friends who have been friendly with me.
I know that i dont need the girl to show interest before i attempt to escalate but sometimes it makes heavy escalation a no brainer and it can't hurt to be very aware of subtleties that may indicate a girl is liking you. This type of stuff is just increasing your social intelligents, Thoughts?
I don't really disagree with this, it's the language (ioi) that bothers me.
For myself I try to remove any "does she like me?" thoughts out of my head and replace them with "fuck yeah of course she likes me I'm the fucking man!" If that's the predominant thought in my head then "ioi"s are completely pointless; she wants me, I already know it.
That said, I think we might be arguing the same point. You obviously do want to be tuned in for iortgf's (ready to get fucked) like you used in your example, looking for signs a girl is single, receptive, open etc..
Your description was brief. Have more fun with the interaction. You're out, life is good, so have a good time. Bring that fun to her. Sounds like you let her suck the life out of the interaction and then couldnt get the ball rolling again.