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Long time lurker first time poster.

Came to Vegas and i just have to say the quality of talent here is pretty awesome. My buddies and me are doing a mix of the hardcore clubs but also some more low key "local" stuff, goin off the strip a little.

It's a battlefield out here though for sure. Got wounded birdies hobbling out of XS clutching a single heel bc the other one got lost and this is the last shred of dignity they have left. Brutal game.

Anyway, I met this girl at this pool party at Encore during the day. Made out a little before I had to go wing my buddy. Was reading Manwhore texting post and would love feedback:

Me: Where ya staying at

Her: At Encore, what are you guys up to this weekend?

Me: oh nice that's where were at- staying in the tower suites. Takin it easy tonight maybe grabbin a mojito- Welcome to join

Her:YAS. We're in tower suites too! Floor 22. We had a chill day by the pool so headed to Omnia now. Encore beach tomorrow, XS at night. Let me know if you wanna hang

Me:Cool might be over by Cesar's tonight. Whose this crew you're rollin with?

Her: it's a mix, some college friends, roommates, add-ons.

Her: Omnia is bananas. Not necessarily in a good way haha

Me: We found ourselves drinking beers outside cesars - mojito spot was closed. Come say hello if you get sick of bananas.

Her: Actually about at that point. Where outside Cesars exactly?

Me: Outside cesars main lobby to the right- called Spanish Steps
(She never shows)

Me: Finishing up drinks here. Thinking about our next move. What's your story?

Her: Mmmm we actually found ourselves up close and personal with Calvin so he's our foreseeable future. Let me know if you're up to anything later. Otherwise tomorrow!

(Planned on hittin up a more local joint called stoneys that has the funniest description online that it actually seemed better than another club night)

Me: Say hello to Calvin. We're line dancing

Her: Were BFF's now so I will. Hahaha PLEASE take pics of line dancing ;)

Me: enjoy the BFF. Line dancing was closed- broke our achy breaky heart so we're just hangin around Encore.

Her: Haha nice were almost back. You guys gambling?

Me: Yeah let me know if you're in the mood to lose some money

Her: We'll come by and say hello if you're still out and about

Andddddd I passed out right before that text.

I get the vibe she genuinely wants to meetup and I'm tryna make it easy for her while understanding that she doesn't want a dude to be weird about it and juggling other girls I'm meeting etc. just struggling to lock it in seamlessly.

Any thoughts/feedback or a way to reengage today? I don't wanna do another pool party today shit is like $100 just to get in loll

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Holmes you were staying at

Holmes you were staying at the same hotel as her? Why the fuck didn't you just go by her room!? Duh. You think hooking up only goes down at night? You squandered a beautiful opportunity I don't even know what to say to this whole thing. It's staring you in the face and you're asking me.. what exactly? How to meet up with her? 

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Thanks for pointing that out

Thanks for pointing that out in the way you did-was an awesome kick in the head man.

I had texted her in the morning as I was headin to breakfast and didn't hear back so kinda wrote it off and moved on. Ended up getting a text from her around 10pm after watching the fight and she said she was going to XS.

My buddies and me were kinda like "do we really wanna drop 100 to get into this club. Like is it gonna be that cool..." plus there's the whole waiting on line for an hour so it just didn't seem that exciting at first.

But figured we'd walk by the line and meet up with a few other girls we'd met earlier and make up some excuse not to go in and just be back at the end of the night when shit was shutting down to collect or wtvr.

We get there and the line is super short thoigh so we hesitantly walk in with pretty low expectations honestly. Like if most people go into these clubs super pumped up and high expectations, I'd say we were pretty much on the opposite of that spectrum for better or worse but fuck it, I'd say we were also open to the possibility of being impressed.

my girl texted me a picture of where their table was and my other buddies had met some girls who had a table too, so we ended up having some tables to home-base at for the night. Everyone was real cool. The guys just didn't really talk to us or bother us at all, I'm actually not sure I remember Any other dudes being at the table but I'm sure there were.

I have to give her credit too- she looked really good. She had this dress that just barely covered her breasts and was justt short enough - def impressed me with that.

The girls were typical Vegas girls. Lol they always have this funny lil attitude at first. It was funny cause we pointed it out to the girls and called it the "battlefield", and then whenever any girl was acting up Wed just look at each other and be like BATTLEFIELDDD ha just stupid shit we do but the girls were into it and thoight it was hilarious.

But ya for having no expectations at all the night turned out to be a blast. Drank a lil and shut the place down around 4am.

Towards the end of the night my girl told me she had a crush on me and we ended up hooking up back at my spot for a bit. Didn't fuck cause she was being a lil resistant but we went down on each other and fooled around.

I think at least one of my buddies got some action too which makes it better cause now we all got stories. And to think we were THIS close to not even walking into the club.

Overall it was an awesome trip and going to the club turned out to be 100% the right call.

Thanks for your response though man, you have an awesome forum here, so appreciate you letting me come on and get that feedback.

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Good stuff! Next time be more

Good stuff! Next time be more aggressive about setting up logistics.

So it's apparent you guys have a decent amount of "value" as a group. E.g. even though you didn't run any "game" she still wanted to hook up with you. Just understand this is not consistent and if you hope to be able to pull anything off on your own you're going to have to step up. 

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Appreciate you cutting

Appreciate you cutting through it like that.

I'm def one of the more quiet ones in our group but I dont necessarily want to change that - I balance things out and you'd be surprised how many girls are attracted to the "quiet one".

But with the whole being aggressive thing- how do you know if a girl likes you if your constantly being aggressive? Like if you don't give her the space she needs she's prob gonna feel a little suffocated. Gotta give her some room to like figure out if she likes you and kinda "choose" you for the night.

I'm not opposed to being aggressive I just don't understand it that much. Like my buddies are more on that side so I see its benefits but idk how to do it I guess...

Appreciate you being direct about this though. I'll continue to read the other guys stuff on the forum cause they def have some awesome shit and seem more aggressive.

Thanks

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I'd be surprised huh.

I'd be surprised huh. Lol

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You can't help the guy who

You can't help the guy who thinks he doesn't have a problem or who's figured out how to rationalize to himself that his timidity is a good thing. 

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I ask how you're supposed to

Yes, I'm here to learn.

Is there anyone's stuff on the forum I can read who is aggressive but maybe more naturally on the quiet/chill side?

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Dude...this girl gave you her

Dude...this girl gave you her floor number and told you to let her know if you want to hang out.  Lol that's about as obvious as a girl will EVER make it that she wants to hook up, you going over there is not "aggressive" at all.  

Why do you think you have to be polarized to either quiet and reserved or aggressive?  I'm 100% the most laid back, quiet person in my social circle, but I still go after (and get) what I want with zero remorse, because I'm grounded in principles that any good man would live by and I don't do anything that would hurt other people.  You don't have to be "aggressive", you just have to be a man.  Also, girls love when they see that more aggressive side of you, as long as it's not creepy and/or unwarranted.  

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^^Strong username to post

^^Strong username to post correlation ;)

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I def think that being

^lol it's fine

I def think that being aggressive will help me be more of a complete man on my own and so I agree that it's something I should develop.

I think that within the context of my group of friends, I can get away with not being aggressive because I'm good looking, tall, I dress well etc. And since my friends are kinda your typical aggressive jocks - they all play sports in college - I can kinda just sit back a lot of times and let them have the attention and dont have to put in the effort. But what I liked about Manwhores feedback and why I thanked him is because he brought to light how this form of rationalization is a crutch preventing my own growth outside of the context of my social circle. Am I confident that if I went somewhere new I could easily develop similar friends and continue to stay in my comfort zone? Absolutely. But am I here because I want to stay within my comfort zone? Absolutely not.

There's also a part of me that enjoys not having to be in the spotlight- more rationalizing this crutch. I tend to surround myself with very outgoing people because I enjoy their energy and I don't have to be in the center of attention and since they love it, there's a good balance.

That being said, I don't lack confidence and I don't feel in any way ashamed of sex lol. There was absolutely no part of me that was in any way doubting whether this chick wanted to meet up with me.

When she gave me her floor number they were already on their way to omnia. I figured the easiest way to hookup or do anything would be to meet in person and go from there - rather than pushing to go to her room when clearly her momentum was already in another direction. Id rather swim with the current than upstream trying to force something that doesn't make sense.

Also, when she texted me that, my crew had already started to make plans as well. So, this specific instance had nothing to do with "confidence" or "being a man" and everything to do with logistics- which Manwhore understood and why he told me to be more aggressive with "coordinating logistics" next time. Going with the flow works but it's inconsistent because Im leaving too much out of my own control. I guess I try and capitalize on situations that pop-up rather than capitalizing on situations i create. For example, I saw her text about Omnia and it was clear she was feeling a little overwhelmed or unhappy about the club for some reason and so I offered her an option that was total opposite of what she was going through. If she's unhappy with the chaos of a club, going outside for a breather and a few beers with me and my friends seemed like something shed feel good about.