Went out with a true natural. Got us laid. Fun self amusing night
Wed, 10/10/2012 - 23:57
Last weekend I went out with the best true natural I know. Dude is young. Fucked well over 100 girls and he has been in LTRs for a lot of his short time on earth. When he isn't in a ltr he pulls 3 new girls a week plus old ones. So we went out and he is great at getting laid but any of us can really overshadow him if we do it right. My lay rate sucks compare to him but already I'm stronger in a lot of other areas and don't have a lot of bull shit believes. Last Friday when we went out I was burnt out from going out suppeerrrr late all week already. And I wanted to see how this guy operated so I let him lead and just winged him.
Problems this guy has: too reliant on alcohol and social status. He is a complete fucking weirdo and freak (which is why I like him so much. He makes me lol hard) but anyone normal thinks he is retarded. But he has a wicked sweet job that involves leading around models and babes. So he relies on meeting girls like that and using his job as a crutch. And drinking to pump his state and doing other dumb shit to pump his state.
Good things he does: doesn't give a fuck. Really intent on just getting laid, no nonsense from girls who aren't dtf. Smiles. Persists.
We were at a shitty bar with a dance floor for the start of the night. Opened a bunch of girls. He downed 3 shots to start and maybe had 5-6 within the first two hours. We hit the dance floor. He is running around looking for his type he loves to fuck. He jumps into random circles and goes buck. Tears off his shirt. Everyone is laughing and he is pumping everyone's state. Bouncer comes by and before he can get serious he makes eye contact with my friend and can't help but smile as he puts back on his shirt. We kinda open everything there is on the dance floor so we go to the pub area of the venue. Two blondes by themselves. They aren't his ideal girl (he would rather just hit up a 8-9 on his phone than have to tango with these girls who are hot but he has better ones). I push him to open which he does. I open and turn away the hotter one. They're from the burbs and just the two of them there. Shit it would be actually perfect logistics and they were down. We lead them upstairs to the dance floor. The other couple grabs a drink while me and my girl hold hands and chat. He comes up and whispers to me he doesn't really like his girl unless she jumps on his dick in the bathroom. So we move on. My girl was heartbroken.
More of the same. We tear up the dancefloor. I find some young UNI chick and start dancing with her. Go for the insta makeout. She was down but flipped out last min. She goes "that was bold." I don't even hear as I smirk and keep dancing with her. My friend pulls me away as he needed a wing. Then later I see the girl I was dancing with. I grab her away from some guy she was dancing with and then when chatting to her I realize she didn't want to makeout cause he guy friends were there. I chat, dance and then try to pull to the bar. She wants to stay near her friends. I try going boss on her but it doesn't work.. That's something I need to work on. Being able to yell and command a girl like that without eliciting a negative response. I mean obviously I can do it. But when I first meet a girl sometimes that just scares them off instead of showing them I have value.. Probably something basic in my tonality or something...
Anyways we leave that place and try to get in another club. I don't have dress shoes. We try some door game and while we vibed with the bouncer well, had him laughing and we both knew the owner and people who worked inside he didn't let us in. I think he was knew and trying to go by the book.
Sooo street game! We hit the club district and walk around. Open a bunch but no one is really hot enough. All drunken 6,7s. Really fun to practice self amusement though. We were using accents. Lying to them, creating elaborate stories. Over escalating. Doing weird shit. I like telling girls how bad smoking is for them and how disgusting it is. Lots of them smoke just because they're drinking so I actually convince a lot of them to toss their freshly lit cigarette. Which I'm thankful for because I hate kissing ashtrays.
One cool set was one I opened. My friend was in a one set so I watched him for a bit and no one was walking by. I'm just dragging my feet waiting for him to finish and I notice a cute blonde on the other side of a rope in the smokers pit. Haha I make her out out her cigarette. Then my buddy comes in (fuckk another bad thing.) and takes over the convo. Starts talking about his work, she's interested and they trade facebooks. All the while I am just super present and staring at her. She was obviously invested in the convo with my friend but kept giving me the eye and like... Making her get inside her head... Haha. So she'd look over at me and screw up her sentence or trail off before he took her attention again. But she slowwwlyyy gave her attention back to me without me doing a thing. Number close and we left.
I pushed him to open sets he was not comfortable opening at all. It was sweet I made him go into sets with two stunners surrounded by older business looking fuckers. He wasn't comfy at all but since we did it for the lawlz the other guys would explode out of there. 2 am. Everything is closing down.
I hop on his motorcycle (IDIOT IDIOT IDIOT NEVER GET ON A BIKE WITH SOMEONE HALF IN THE BAG!!!!) and he brings me back to the first place where my car is. Yessss it just closed and hundreds of girls are flooding out of one door. Rsd guys are everywhere doing their thing. All newbies but I guess if there were any good guys there I wouldn't notice...
I open everything. One set I'm hugging and talking to a babe and some dude comes tries to tool me. Verbalize the pickup. I should've just not even acknowledged him but instead I looked him and said something that was like "yeah I'm picking her up and it's going good. And I'm cool with verbalizing it" the line was money but I should just ignored him completely.
A girl opens me. A distant friends little sister whom I've met briefly once. She is cute but there are better fish. She introduces me to her friend. WHO IS AMAZING. Like soooooo hot. Soo soo sooooo hot. Instructor level hot. My friend jumps on her like no tomm. They are the hottest two set on the street and guys are coming at us like no tomm. Don't even recognize it though. Eventually her friend joins us and I don't know where my friend is. I go off to find him. And now the two girls are with two other guys who seem to have good game. One is dancing and spinning with my girl and his friend has the hotty in his arms.
My friend goes on and on about how hot she is. And tells me to go open them again since I know the friend. I would've but him putting that extra pressure puts me inside my head a bit.. Which is when I fuck up. And I know that which puts me further inside my head. Eventually I pump my own state by just hitting and blowing myself out of three quick sets then blow over to my girl and rip her from the dude. She latches on and the guys evaporate. My friend jumps on her friend.
All is going good. My friend tries to convince the one girl for a bike ride (and ill take mine in my car) and they're walking home. They don't bite and we leave while I get a number. I plan on texting my girl and making it work. Mid text as I walk to my car and I see my friend on his bike whiz by me. Around the corner he met up with the girls. With his bike there I literally grab my girls hand and walk off. The girls are muttering objections. I ask my girl if she knows how to get to her friends house. She does. So I say perfect meet you there in ten mins. And yank my girl away. They're split up now and have no choice. Hold hands with my girl all the way to the car. Slam her against my car and makeout briefly. Bring her to her friends place and bang her in my car while her and my friend are inside.
Fun and challenging lay. But the real lessons of the night were from following around the natural.
Problems this guy has: too reliant on alcohol and social status. He is a complete fucking weirdo and freak (which is why I like him so much. He makes me lol hard) but anyone normal thinks he is retarded. But he has a wicked sweet job that involves leading around models and babes. So he relies on meeting girls like that and using his job as a crutch. And drinking to pump his state and doing other dumb shit to pump his state.
Good things he does: doesn't give a fuck. Really intent on just getting laid, no nonsense from girls who aren't dtf. Smiles. Persists.
We were at a shitty bar with a dance floor for the start of the night. Opened a bunch of girls. He downed 3 shots to start and maybe had 5-6 within the first two hours. We hit the dance floor. He is running around looking for his type he loves to fuck. He jumps into random circles and goes buck. Tears off his shirt. Everyone is laughing and he is pumping everyone's state. Bouncer comes by and before he can get serious he makes eye contact with my friend and can't help but smile as he puts back on his shirt. We kinda open everything there is on the dance floor so we go to the pub area of the venue. Two blondes by themselves. They aren't his ideal girl (he would rather just hit up a 8-9 on his phone than have to tango with these girls who are hot but he has better ones). I push him to open which he does. I open and turn away the hotter one. They're from the burbs and just the two of them there. Shit it would be actually perfect logistics and they were down. We lead them upstairs to the dance floor. The other couple grabs a drink while me and my girl hold hands and chat. He comes up and whispers to me he doesn't really like his girl unless she jumps on his dick in the bathroom. So we move on. My girl was heartbroken.
More of the same. We tear up the dancefloor. I find some young UNI chick and start dancing with her. Go for the insta makeout. She was down but flipped out last min. She goes "that was bold." I don't even hear as I smirk and keep dancing with her. My friend pulls me away as he needed a wing. Then later I see the girl I was dancing with. I grab her away from some guy she was dancing with and then when chatting to her I realize she didn't want to makeout cause he guy friends were there. I chat, dance and then try to pull to the bar. She wants to stay near her friends. I try going boss on her but it doesn't work.. That's something I need to work on. Being able to yell and command a girl like that without eliciting a negative response. I mean obviously I can do it. But when I first meet a girl sometimes that just scares them off instead of showing them I have value.. Probably something basic in my tonality or something...
Anyways we leave that place and try to get in another club. I don't have dress shoes. We try some door game and while we vibed with the bouncer well, had him laughing and we both knew the owner and people who worked inside he didn't let us in. I think he was knew and trying to go by the book.
Sooo street game! We hit the club district and walk around. Open a bunch but no one is really hot enough. All drunken 6,7s. Really fun to practice self amusement though. We were using accents. Lying to them, creating elaborate stories. Over escalating. Doing weird shit. I like telling girls how bad smoking is for them and how disgusting it is. Lots of them smoke just because they're drinking so I actually convince a lot of them to toss their freshly lit cigarette. Which I'm thankful for because I hate kissing ashtrays.
One cool set was one I opened. My friend was in a one set so I watched him for a bit and no one was walking by. I'm just dragging my feet waiting for him to finish and I notice a cute blonde on the other side of a rope in the smokers pit. Haha I make her out out her cigarette. Then my buddy comes in (fuckk another bad thing.) and takes over the convo. Starts talking about his work, she's interested and they trade facebooks. All the while I am just super present and staring at her. She was obviously invested in the convo with my friend but kept giving me the eye and like... Making her get inside her head... Haha. So she'd look over at me and screw up her sentence or trail off before he took her attention again. But she slowwwlyyy gave her attention back to me without me doing a thing. Number close and we left.
I pushed him to open sets he was not comfortable opening at all. It was sweet I made him go into sets with two stunners surrounded by older business looking fuckers. He wasn't comfy at all but since we did it for the lawlz the other guys would explode out of there. 2 am. Everything is closing down.
I hop on his motorcycle (IDIOT IDIOT IDIOT NEVER GET ON A BIKE WITH SOMEONE HALF IN THE BAG!!!!) and he brings me back to the first place where my car is. Yessss it just closed and hundreds of girls are flooding out of one door. Rsd guys are everywhere doing their thing. All newbies but I guess if there were any good guys there I wouldn't notice...
I open everything. One set I'm hugging and talking to a babe and some dude comes tries to tool me. Verbalize the pickup. I should've just not even acknowledged him but instead I looked him and said something that was like "yeah I'm picking her up and it's going good. And I'm cool with verbalizing it" the line was money but I should just ignored him completely.
A girl opens me. A distant friends little sister whom I've met briefly once. She is cute but there are better fish. She introduces me to her friend. WHO IS AMAZING. Like soooooo hot. Soo soo sooooo hot. Instructor level hot. My friend jumps on her like no tomm. They are the hottest two set on the street and guys are coming at us like no tomm. Don't even recognize it though. Eventually her friend joins us and I don't know where my friend is. I go off to find him. And now the two girls are with two other guys who seem to have good game. One is dancing and spinning with my girl and his friend has the hotty in his arms.
My friend goes on and on about how hot she is. And tells me to go open them again since I know the friend. I would've but him putting that extra pressure puts me inside my head a bit.. Which is when I fuck up. And I know that which puts me further inside my head. Eventually I pump my own state by just hitting and blowing myself out of three quick sets then blow over to my girl and rip her from the dude. She latches on and the guys evaporate. My friend jumps on her friend.
All is going good. My friend tries to convince the one girl for a bike ride (and ill take mine in my car) and they're walking home. They don't bite and we leave while I get a number. I plan on texting my girl and making it work. Mid text as I walk to my car and I see my friend on his bike whiz by me. Around the corner he met up with the girls. With his bike there I literally grab my girls hand and walk off. The girls are muttering objections. I ask my girl if she knows how to get to her friends house. She does. So I say perfect meet you there in ten mins. And yank my girl away. They're split up now and have no choice. Hold hands with my girl all the way to the car. Slam her against my car and makeout briefly. Bring her to her friends place and bang her in my car while her and my friend are inside.
Fun and challenging lay. But the real lessons of the night were from following around the natural.
Thu, 10/11/2012 - 04:25
#1
Re: Went out with nig
@icewahine:
Isn't it crazy how much we know knowledge wise compared to natural ?
Even simple things like momentum , intent , state etc
Btw reading this was like a review of Jon's teaching lol
the leading and boss daddy.
Do you guys pulls everyttime you go out..
Isn't it crazy how much we know knowledge wise compared to natural ?
Even simple things like momentum , intent , state etc
Btw reading this was like a review of Jon's teaching lol
the leading and boss daddy.
Do you guys pulls everyttime you go out..
Thu, 10/11/2012 - 05:42
#2
Re: Went out with nig
@Vince
Yeah it is funny . Cause he gets laid wayy more than me. Even on just straight cold approach he can do better than me. But if I stick to it he'll stagnant and ill just get exponentially better. Just because he is more unconscious in this area that I am.
And nooooo we don't pull every night. It was my first night out with him. I've only known him for like 2-3 weeks. This night though I didn't know it at the time but we were going to pull no matter what. We were just on with zero outcome dependance.
Yeah it is funny . Cause he gets laid wayy more than me. Even on just straight cold approach he can do better than me. But if I stick to it he'll stagnant and ill just get exponentially better. Just because he is more unconscious in this area that I am.
And nooooo we don't pull every night. It was my first night out with him. I've only known him for like 2-3 weeks. This night though I didn't know it at the time but we were going to pull no matter what. We were just on with zero outcome dependance.
Thu, 10/11/2012 - 19:49
#3
Great story, an inspiration
Great story, an inspiration hearing about guys on fire. But there's some glaring belief issues here
@Vince
Be careful to compare your own "knowledge" to someone elses man. I mean, what do you REALLY know? Do you KNOW this guy he's talking about? Sounds like you have an egotistical unexperienced view point. Are you going out every night? Hundreds of lays? Thousands of lays? Knowledge isn't reading something in a book or forum, it's results. Because he may not be able to clearly write down what he's doing, or even express it verbally, real knowledge is when he see's a certain look, or hears a certain tone of voice and acts on it from instinct, just because he KNOWS.
@Icewahine
"Problems this guy has: too reliant on alcohol and social status. He is a complete fucking weirdo and freak (which is why I like him so much. He makes me lol hard) but anyone normal thinks he is retarded. But he has a wicked sweet job that involves leading around models and babes. So he relies on meeting girls like that and using his job as a crutch. And drinking to pump his state and doing other dumb shit to pump his state."
You think social status and having a job that puts him around models is a problem? There's no such thing as relying on social status too much, that's like saying Ray Allen relies on his 3-point shot too much. It's working, he's getting results! You have responsibility for your own life, Why not quit your job and do his and then bang all the models? Is that "cheating?" You are putting too much value and validation on "the cold approach" because that's what the pick up community leads us to believe is "successful." If you meet the model on the street or meet her from your job or through one of your promoter friends you made from social status, what's the difference? You're still meeting the same person. Be careful what you BELIEVE and what you gain / give validation towards.
and you don't have to "practice self amusement" man, that's like practicing having fun. Just HAVE FUN. AMUSE YOURSELF, don't PRACTICE IT!!!
Best!
Adam
@Vince
Be careful to compare your own "knowledge" to someone elses man. I mean, what do you REALLY know? Do you KNOW this guy he's talking about? Sounds like you have an egotistical unexperienced view point. Are you going out every night? Hundreds of lays? Thousands of lays? Knowledge isn't reading something in a book or forum, it's results. Because he may not be able to clearly write down what he's doing, or even express it verbally, real knowledge is when he see's a certain look, or hears a certain tone of voice and acts on it from instinct, just because he KNOWS.
@Icewahine
"Problems this guy has: too reliant on alcohol and social status. He is a complete fucking weirdo and freak (which is why I like him so much. He makes me lol hard) but anyone normal thinks he is retarded. But he has a wicked sweet job that involves leading around models and babes. So he relies on meeting girls like that and using his job as a crutch. And drinking to pump his state and doing other dumb shit to pump his state."
You think social status and having a job that puts him around models is a problem? There's no such thing as relying on social status too much, that's like saying Ray Allen relies on his 3-point shot too much. It's working, he's getting results! You have responsibility for your own life, Why not quit your job and do his and then bang all the models? Is that "cheating?" You are putting too much value and validation on "the cold approach" because that's what the pick up community leads us to believe is "successful." If you meet the model on the street or meet her from your job or through one of your promoter friends you made from social status, what's the difference? You're still meeting the same person. Be careful what you BELIEVE and what you gain / give validation towards.
and you don't have to "practice self amusement" man, that's like practicing having fun. Just HAVE FUN. AMUSE YOURSELF, don't PRACTICE IT!!!
Best!
Adam
Thu, 10/11/2012 - 23:04
#4
Re: Great story, an inspiration
That's not Ray Allen relying on his 3 point shot too much. That's Ray Allen relying on his 3 point shot to get him laid after a game. Which there is a problem with. What happens when Ray Allen is on vacation where no one knows who the fuck he is and spots his perfect ten? Same thing that happens to my natural bud when he sees a really hot girl while out and not in his environment where he has status.
Thu, 10/11/2012 - 23:04
#5
Re: Great story, an inspiration
That's not Ray Allen relying on his 3 point shot too much. That's Ray Allen relying on his 3 point shot to get him laid after a game. Which there is a problem with. What happens when Ray Allen is on vacation where no one knows who the fuck he is and spots his perfect ten? Same thing that happens to my natural bud when he sees a really hot girl while out and not in his environment where he has status.
Thu, 10/11/2012 - 23:40
#6
Re: Great story, an inspiration
@icewahine:
Yeah- when I'm drunk I'm very similar lol
When I'm sober I'm not gonna be tearing my shirt off... but yeah... I'll get you laid even though, apparently, I can't even get myself laid.
FUCK
Yeah- when I'm drunk I'm very similar lol
When I'm sober I'm not gonna be tearing my shirt off... but yeah... I'll get you laid even though, apparently, I can't even get myself laid.
FUCK
Thu, 10/11/2012 - 23:56
#7
Re: Went outnight
Ahash what kind of a hater reply was that, lol.
Fri, 10/12/2012 - 02:54
#8
hatorade
I've been drinking that hatorade ;) ;)
Fri, 10/12/2012 - 02:56
#9
Re: hatorade
@ahash31:
lol, nah man- that was just my piss
lol, nah man- that was just my piss
Fri, 10/12/2012 - 03:09
#10
ent out with a true natu
You know I love that freaky shit , next time a finger in my ass too k?