What can I improve here?
Texting with this chick, she is my co-worker, but goes back to school at the end of the month. She is kind of flakey (called her out on it), she says I'm attractive but don't want me to "expect" things whatever that means in bitch language. What I want the most is to just improve my game and being able to detect the subtleties in women's responses.
Me: Hey fav goober you get fired yet?
Her: No! Haha
Me: Don't worry I'll be the first to go... My hours have been cut to 5 haha. How was SF?
Her: I got 0 this week :'-)
Me: Id give you full time if I were manager hehe
Her: Thanks bae I work hard :'-)
Her: **** just called sd to transfer me though
Me: Haha no wonder you got 0 hours, her name is spelt **** :'-)
Me: Err spelled i dont think spelts a word
Her: What? haha
Me: It is spelled **** not ***** ya goober
Me: What are you up to
Her: Watching dexter I'm sick :( you?
Me: Boo why you sick? I'm preparing supplies for an epic biking trip
Her: Idk my friend probably gave it to me
Me: Makeout with too many dudes huh
Her: No no no
Her: haha
Me: I'd give you mono ;)
Her: X X X X (some weird emoji idk)
Me: You know what cures sickness? Some tswift
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I think this is where I could have improved, and went harder for a man vs female type interaction rather than fucking around so much. I could have said something along the lines of, "I'll cure your sickness myself, they call me tylenol." She's been flakey in the past so I tried to not put myself in a situation where there's a constant history of "No".
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Her: No more X X X (same weird emoji)
Her: (a bunch of siren emojis)
Her: SOS SOS SOS
Me: You probably hated my snaps
Her: No I loved them
Me: My voice is a mixture of jesus and fergie nbd
Her: More like Nikki and Beyonce but okay
Me: Wow coming from you that's truly an honor, day is made
Her: Right on time too, the day is almost over
Me: Now it's morning, make my morning for me.
Her: :'-)
Me: (I sent hilarious photo of her when she was like 10)
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I could have escalated the situation here to something more sexual I believe
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Her: Stop
Me: Hey yer still adorable
Her: Awh SAH nice
Me: Nice to meet you where you been, I can show you incredible things
Me: I think I have issues
Me: So its gonna be foreverrrr
Her: Don't say I didn't say I didn't warn you
Me: Wow you know the song.. Marry me
Her: I know every word yah betch
Her: I wanna go back to sd :(
Me: Wow don't get too cocky before i divorce you
Her: I never accepted the proposal
Me: This is an arranged marriage pumpkin you got no choice
Her: Hmmmm I don't think so
Me: Your dad hand picked me
Her: Well you're not indian so I doubt that ;)
Me: I am indian i eat smosa...you going to come surfing with me in sd right?
Her: Samosa*
Her: Uhmmm I don't surf ;)
Me: There's a first for everything. Ill be your lifeguard beb
Her: Haha no surfing for me
Me: Yer sooo lame, I bet banana slugs are more fun than you
Her: I bet they are
Her: :'-)
Me: hehe, anyways im going to bed ill give you a call tomorrow
Her: okay night!
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Anyways that is it. My overall read on this chick is that she is into me, but there is some other obstacle that is holding her back. Not sure what it is, but I don't like making stupid speculations and just it is what it is type thing. Normally I would have directed this towards a meetup, but I felt that she could easily use her excuse of being sick as a reason to flake. Where in this convo am I doing well, where am I fucking up?
"This chick is into me, but there is some obstacle that is holding her back."
that at obstacle is you. You have yet to solidify any sort of meet up. Also, you're giving her a bit too much praise for no particular reason.
Instead of trying to make this happen over text, I find that hanging out with chicks right after work is solid. Just be like yo, let's get some food/drinks when we get out of here. Take it from there. If a girl is hesitant to hook up because you work together it's very easy for her to brush off your advances when you're texting. If you can lay down some proper game face to face it will help you much more in the long run.
Hi I just joined here after watching the coache's youtube video.
I've noticed that your conversaion is revolving around her. Then suddenly, after beating around the bush, you told her your intentions indirectly by mentioning the song "Merry me" after randomly saying "Hey yer still adorable"
You shouldn't really follow a guideline or formula and it's really more of your mentality but here's some general tips that you may choose to consider:
- your text length compard to hers. --> try to keep your texts not longer and as frequent as hers
- smiley faces and "haha/hehe's" --> try to avoid using them as much as possible
- don't explain yourself unless she asks you to --> this gives of the vibe that you're insecure
- avoid asking her "what are you up to?" or "what are you doing?" --> she gets the vibe that you don't have a productive life and you have nothing better to do other than thinking about her all day and you're afraid of the conversation dying out. you're basically trying to keep it alive (sign of desperateness). instead, you should focus on getting HER to wonder what you're up to
- saying "devorce you" and calling her "lame" as jokes at that point is trying too hard. it is almost as if you were following a guideline on how to text a girl
I hope this helped a bit and good luck!
You created a competitive frame by accident and followed up on it lol.
Me: Wow don't get too cocky before i divorce you
Her: I never accepted the proposal
Me: This is an arranged marriage pumpkin you got no choice
Her: Hmmmm I don't think so
Me: Your dad hand picked me
Her: Well you're not indian so I doubt that ;)
Me: I am indian i eat smosa...you going to come surfing with me in sd right?
Her: Samosa*
Her: Uhmmm I don't surf ;)
Going forward don't give a girl an option to reject you she'll mostly ALWAYS take the easy validation/way out. "I never accepted the proposal" "Thank gawd I'm not ready to settle. I like robbing banks too much" or something like that. Get it? Aside from that I'd say you're pretty good to go I'd follow the advice of whoever said to hit things up after work. But yeah your way of inviting her out right on the heels of her "devalidation" wasn't good timing.
I go in and I'm crisp, clean and my vocals are fucking coming out like music. - Anonymous MW student
- Autismus Terminus Finis (Root Cause/Cure of Autism Epidemic)
- Called Off My Wedding & Other Turn Tail Signs Of The American Male
Interesting, lately I've just dismissed "text game rules" and say the first things that pop into my head. I have some sort of structure/direction as to where I want to take it, but that's just it.
My in person game is solid, all our hangouts were planned in person. It's just we have totally different schedules and I hardly see her.
In our previous text convos, she invites me to breakfast, and says how we need to get together in socal and hangout blah blah.
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Anyways I called her up and she declined it and texted me
Her: I'm busy right now, what's up?
Her: I didn't think you were actually going to call me
What's my next action here
Be like, "Yeah I just love talking to answering machines. Thx"
I go in and I'm crisp, clean and my vocals are fucking coming out like music. - Anonymous MW student
- Autismus Terminus Finis (Root Cause/Cure of Autism Epidemic)
- Called Off My Wedding & Other Turn Tail Signs Of The American Male
Yeah I'm completely lost, no direction or how to frame this. I sent what you said and I got
Her: Sorry not sorry
My shit is really whack right now
At times like this I like to play my Solitude Mountain mana +3 card and show some emotional vulnerability. Real or not
A simple "*sniff*" could do the trick, or something more elaborate "You're gonna be sad when you hear I drowned in a puddle of my own tears"
I go in and I'm crisp, clean and my vocals are fucking coming out like music. - Anonymous MW student
- Autismus Terminus Finis (Root Cause/Cure of Autism Epidemic)
- Called Off My Wedding & Other Turn Tail Signs Of The American Male
I've done the vulnerability in the past with some success and some failures... when do you let go of that frame and move onto something else?
Well when do you think, lol.
I go in and I'm crisp, clean and my vocals are fucking coming out like music. - Anonymous MW student
- Autismus Terminus Finis (Root Cause/Cure of Autism Epidemic)
- Called Off My Wedding & Other Turn Tail Signs Of The American Male
- avoid asking her "what are you up to?" or "what are you doing?" --> she gets the vibe that you don't have a productive life and you have nothing better to do other than thinking about her all day and you're afraid of the conversation dying out. you're basically trying to keep it alive (sign of desperateness). instead, you should focus on getting HER to wonder what you're up to
actually i've seen some guys over here to use that as re-engagement text, and then launch into some crazy made up story after that. I started using it myself and this way it seems cool.
I used your line MW... was purrdy solid.
Me: You're gonna be sad when you hear I drowned in a puddle of my own tears
Her: Haha you read my message and didn't respond yesterday. I'm pretty sad myself :'(
Me: I had a bomb burrito to cure my heartaches... Now I'm all feeling euphoric again
Her: :-')
Her: I'm still sick sooooo
Her: My life is worse
Her: Haha what did you do today?
Me: Spent time with my pops, we robbed a few banks ;)
Her: Totally believe that
Me: Next time we pull some heists, you can be the getaway driver
Me: But we'd probably get caught because women suck at driving ;p
Her: </3 </3 </3
Her: Wow read and no response (31 mins later)
Me: What can I say you had me lost at words
Her: Rude
Me: My phone's about to die and im tired gnite
Her: Awh.
Her: So sad :'(
Her: Goodnight!
Me: Maybe you'll be in my dreams
Her: Let me know tomorrow morning <3
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I think I did a lot better in this exchange even though it was really short. She's still sick, so she could easily use it as a cop out for flaking. I'm just gonna call her and say something like "Give me your address I'm bringing you soup to cure you from your misery."
Yeah call her up, but be a bit more sympathetic and talk about what's up, then ease into meeting up but yes at that point you can be demanding. This one's pretty much cooked tho, she likes you
I go in and I'm crisp, clean and my vocals are fucking coming out like music. - Anonymous MW student
- Autismus Terminus Finis (Root Cause/Cure of Autism Epidemic)
- Called Off My Wedding & Other Turn Tail Signs Of The American Male
Just be chill and let her be into you, my man. I do not mean go into chode mode, but focus your frame on having fun with her and how none of it is a big deal for now.
Update on this one. I thought this one was for sure cooked. My last post I believed had some solid ass texting, then I fucked it up and reverted back.
I called the chick up the next night since my last post in this thread. She didn't asnwer, so we bantered for a little bit. I shyed away from 'confrontation' and diverted the subject. I could have plowed to talk to her over the phone. She said she didn't want to speak with anyone because of her stuffy nose.
Anyways things were fine, then I drunk texted her when I was down in SF.
Me: Hi
Her: Hi haha
Me: Are you watching dexter ya loser
Her: Duh
Me: You never snap back assburglar
Her: What am i supposed to say to you drinking?
Me: Express your creativity
Me: Check yer snap (I took a pic of a person I was with and drew a penis)
Her: So clever
Me: (I sent a nerdy ass pic of her when she was like in 6th grade)
Me: hahahahahaha im dyingg
Her: Stop haha
Me: Oh my gosh hahahahahahahahaha
Me: Epic photo
Me: I bet that bowtie is a clipon too
Her: Def
Me: I didn't mean to hurt yor feelings
Her: haha you didn't
Me: I'm an asshole
Me: Srry beb
Her: You didn't hurt my feelings
Me: Shut up bitch (Here's when I lost it)
Her: Fuck you. You're drunk. Haha
Me: Lmao such a sloot
Me: Pls respond
I should just never text any chicks while drunk.
Her: Whyyy. There's really nothing to talk about right now, you're out having fun
Me: Idk talking to you is enjoyable (I was trying to easy back after calling her a bitch/sloot)
Her: aha alright
I fell asleep, but the vibe here was ruined after this brief exchange.
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I hit her up again last night to try to salvage this
Me: I'm all packed for sd! Hope the cops don't mistake me for a homeless person while I sleep on the beach :p
Her: Are you actually sleeping on the beach?
Me: For a fee nights, I'm feeling daring
Her: What?
Me: I'm gonna putter around the beach and make sand castles
Her: Haha are you really living on the beach though?
Me: Yeah :D
Me: I hope I don't get robbed
Me: When are you coming down again? (29 mins later)
Her: 19th!
Me: Cool! (I just wanted this convo to be done at this point, I didn't know any other directions to take this. She seemed very unreceptive)
Her: Yeah! You go on the 14th right? (1 hr later)
Me: Yeah, not looking forward to the drive, except jamming out to tswift ;) (6 hrs later)
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No response back, I wanan see her TONIGHT before I leave. I think logistics will be even harder when she gets to SD since she'll be busy with school/sorority shit.
What's my next move here?
So the play here would be to go with some sort of "heartwarming" lil exchange after all the tension and fuckaroo and then just tell her you really want to see her before you leave. Works really well I even use it in person to bust through lmr lol. Um.. I would say calling her a bitch in that context was actually fucking hilarious tho most guys couldn't pull it off. The sloot part after was too much. All in all I thought it was pretty solid but yeah that's the play
I go in and I'm crisp, clean and my vocals are fucking coming out like music. - Anonymous MW student
- Autismus Terminus Finis (Root Cause/Cure of Autism Epidemic)
- Called Off My Wedding & Other Turn Tail Signs Of The American Male
Ugh that misc jargon is so played out. That forum is literally becoming the new mysogynistic manosphere, corrupting young guys minds one "sloot" at a time.
You got that from misc?
I go in and I'm crisp, clean and my vocals are fucking coming out like music. - Anonymous MW student
- Autismus Terminus Finis (Root Cause/Cure of Autism Epidemic)
- Called Off My Wedding & Other Turn Tail Signs Of The American Male
To be honest, you're treating this too much like a gaming "method". Interacting with a girl should rather be simple. Be the most genuine version of yourself. Your mentality is really important here. You shouldn't have a mentality where all you think about is what's the best way to get inside her pants and how you should maximize your chance by using some texting skills or strategies. Women can tell right off the bat when you're tryin hard to be the cool guy who is good with women and that is not very attractive especially in the pick up situation. Don't try so hard to be the "pro" or an attractive "alpha male" who can get any women. Just be yourself! You might succeed at the interaction early on by being clever and trying to apply whatever method here and there but her shit tests are going to throw you off at one point or another. Human aren't robots. Applying method A does not always return the same result B. If you're always asking yourself which methods of texting skills to apply your mentality have already failed and you will most likely not succeed with the girl you're talking to. I mean, don't you want to be with a girl who will like you for who you are, rather than who you pretend to be?
I am am aware that I don't have any reputation here but I urge you to consider the above information.
To be honest, you're treating this too much like a gaming "method". Interacting with a girl should rather be simple. Be the most genuine version of yourself. Your mentality is really important here. You shouldn't have a mentality where all you think about is what's the best way to get inside her pants and how you should maximize your chance by using some texting skills or strategies. Women can tell right off the bat when you're tryin hard to be the cool guy who is good with women and that is not very attractive especially in the pick up situation. Don't try so hard to be the "pro" or an attractive "alpha male" who can get any women. Just be yourself! You might succeed at the interaction early on by being clever and trying to apply whatever method here and there but her shit tests are going to throw you off at one point or another. Human aren't robots. Applying method A does not always return the same result B. If you're always asking yourself which methods of texting skills to apply your mentality have already failed and you will most likely not succeed with the girl you're talking to. I mean, don't you want to be with a girl who will like you for who you are, rather than who you pretend to be?I am am aware that I don't have any reputation here but I urge you to consider the above information.
Alpha - right on, I've been having very similar thoughts myself lately and it is literally game changing. The problem with pickup as it is usually thought of is that it's conditional and therefore ego-based and totally inauthentic - in a sense, you're trying to manipulate the girl into bed and Reality subsequently shits on you for being fake. To become good at this stuff, to have abundance and success in your life you have to become a person who unconditionally gives love to everyone and everything, you can only do this if you've handled all your own emotional issues first and can give the same love to yourself. (I've recently had a massive breakthrough with this myself.) Your outer reality is just a manifestation of what's inside. Then people really are 'attracted to' you in the literal sense of the word.
Dude that's the most generic bland crap I've ever read. Get that cookie-cutter sjw shit out of here. He's just having a funny drunken conversation with a girl. Don't read heresy into everything you read you're like a crab in a bucket.
I go in and I'm crisp, clean and my vocals are fucking coming out like music. - Anonymous MW student
- Autismus Terminus Finis (Root Cause/Cure of Autism Epidemic)
- Called Off My Wedding & Other Turn Tail Signs Of The American Male