What's your guys' take on "Inner Game"? Very interested to know

Let's discuss..

How it affects us in:

- Our everyday lives

- The way we interact with the people around us

- "Controlling" our actions (consciously and unconsciously)

- Taking "right action"

- Procrastination

- The "Critic" inside us

- Escalating physically/sexually/socially on women. And on men

- Self-control and discipline

- Leadership abilities/decisions/actions

- "Instinctual" responses

- "Fear" responses

- Developing new skills/capacities

- "Learning" 

And more..

C'moooon..! Who's being shy now

Number them. I'm drunk and about to fuck. #MWTraining

Looool! 

A couple things I can say about this:

1. Get this app: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.soh&hl=en

-I saw someone post about on RSDNation back in the day. This thing is legit. All you have to do is type into your phone 3 things you're grateful for, a goal you have for the day and then say something that happened that you're happy about at the end of the day. if you do this every day for about 6-9 months, it will shock you how much more positive your perspective on things becomes. At this point whenever some bull shit happens to me, my natural response is generally something like "well, yeah... that sucked ass. But, this this and this happened that was good"

2. Acknowledge when something is funny verbally

-I would sometimes have a hard time laughing. I could logically recognize that it was funny or would see other people laugh at something, but I myself wouldn't laugh. So I just started verbally acknowledging when I would see something funny like "thats hilarious, thats funny, thats pretty hilarious" etc... After doing this enough I noticed I just started laughing at things a lot easier. 

I have more I can say about inner game in general, but I'll post that later. Just wanted to say those two pieces of advice helped me quite a bit.

Also, if you don't naturally smile much right now, as in it's not a habit you've built, I would recommend just forcing yourself to do it at least a few minutes every day and it will become more natural. Not that you wanna walk around like a clown all the time with a stupid looking smile, but you'll be able to smile more naturally after that and seem more friendly at first glance.

i could type or talk forever about inner game. Emotional states, subconscious assuptions, rythem. i don't want to start lol 

i could type or talk forever about inner game. Emotional states, subconscious assuptions, rythem. i don't want to start lol 

Thanks! Gonna try this

I dont know why but people tell me i look pissed all the time. I think it's tension in my face or something

Thanks! Gonna try this

I dont know why but people tell me i look pissed all the time. I think it's tension in my face or something

Go for it, pussy

coconut oil facemassage while you're doing a whole bunch of facial expressions. Gets your face loose. Stronger emotion face connection, more sutle subcomms. 

When you guys have a shit load of stuff to do, like chores, but you can't bring yourself to do it... How do you guys kick yourselves up your royal asses and get the shit done, all of it!?

I've recently found a way, that seems to work for me. I just wanna know your guys take on it

Btw, Monsieur Vajedi... If you write a book on inner game I'll definitely get it. Your take on it, judging from your previous articles is more "cut the bullshit and get down to practical examples", which I dig.

Yes yes yes. I wouldn't even buy an inner game book from anyone but MW because other coaches/instructors' inner game material is stuff that is interesting to read about, but lacks practical application. MW is the undisputed king of practical application.

I consider myself to be an expert in this area. Here's a brief overview of my take on inner game.

And yeah, all of this is 100% logical, practical and easy to apply. Little to no woo woo or theory based stuff.

90% of self help books/programs are just affirmations and visualization or spiritual woo woo.

You're missing the top fourth I'd say. Higher end stuff. Authority, leading, emotional projection, even logistical management. You're setting up a lot of the baseline but not hitting the higher notes

Think about where the ability to lead and emotionally project comes from. Think about what that actually is. Think about how much goes into that. 

Oh yeah and on a side note the drills of mine you mentioned are way more than just subcommunication training. That's a really narrow interpretation

My interpretation was that the drills covered authority, leading, and emotional projection. So I lumped all of that into Subcomms. Logistical management is venturing into outer game imo.

Think about it like this.. are guys naturally versed in emotional communication and leadership? No. What are the main obstacles to learning it? First and foremost we as a society have slandered personal charisma for centuries except for small pockets of it here 'n there. The Catholic Church demonized it completely. And thanks to patriarchy, "masculinity" was reduced to a two-dimensional cowboy cardboard cut-out. So it's not a natural part of our development we have to pursue it to attain it.

Secondly..  think about how bold you're being by putting yourself out there like that. Not only do you have to practice it and get good at it, but you have to learn to trust yourself while doing it, ALL while potentially experiencing massive negative feedback. It's a huge fucking leap bringing that much attention on yourself, that much potential to fail. Most guys when first trying it out do NOT get positive reinforcement, so they dip the fuck out and it results in negative reinforcement of their shitty "beta" behaviors. I can't necessarily blame them, the ones that naturally make it do owe in some large part to their environments, and "luck". I said "Fuck it" the first day of college. Never looked back. Became an approach machine back before I even knew what "game" was. But freshman year of college is a very supportive and fostering environment for developing self-expression. It encourages you to relearn and redefine yourself! Well I wanted to finally become a social powerhouse, so I fucking did it. Lol.  And I had been a high school wrestler and college wrestler, so I naturally knew how to escalate, and didn't hesitate lol. And the military trained me, forced me, to become a leader. So yes, you can clearly see where my environment helped shape who I was and am. 

 Of course any good leader gets to a point to where he mostly ignores negative feedback, has risen above it, but the journey to that place is a HUGE part of inner game development. Because it's not characterized by power over others, but by power over yourself. Learning seduction, social leadership, business and sales, is a process of self-actualization, not manipulation of others. I can lead others because I trust myself, my intentions, the mutually beneficial goals we're pursuing together, I know the "ethics" of fucking a woman are pure, and I know there's only one path. And that's the fucking one WE'RE ON RIGHT NOW.  There's no other possibility, and that makes things so much easier.

You don't have to doubt yourself, there's only one path. And that's the one you're on. 

It's why we can easily talk about this stuff without any of us thinking this is some sort of pissing contest. That's retarded. I love you guys, we are simply communicating with each other from a deep place. Trusting ourselves, our opinions, and developing our own "voice". 

And this is why I get worried sometimes when I read your stuff, Mpgamer. Not always, just sometimes. It's when you're not connecting what you've learned to women, you're not learning to communicate from your core to them you seem to just be trying to fit puzzle pieces into place before you can get your puzzle piece into her place. Lol 

Now.. not all paths of self-development, which always coincides with heightened levels of personal self-expression, translate directly to women. That's why you have plenty of guys, and I know quite a few coaches like this, that are charismatic but honestly kinda suck with women. Lol. So yes you do have to either take the time to learn yourself, or have a mentor/coach help you apply and tweak yourself to be able to execute with women.

But like I've said to you before Mpgamer, what you brought up are not the fundamentals! You're asking for help but looking in the wrong place and presenting me with the wrong information haha. 

And then there's all of rest of the guys out there trying to piece together this vast skill set, trying to figure out what skills they should be trying to develop, how much they can "get away with" while not putting their job, or more essentially their ego, in danger. Which sucks for them because yeah, it takes a lot of potentially ego-endangering situations to make it all work. It's why the "Daring Greatly" book is such a great premise and I recognize it. Dance is something I've wanted to do since I was a kid, and I knew I was in for an awkward time in picking it up, I didn't give a shit. And I put myself in the best possible situation to learn it.. going to class with good teachers looking like a little bit of a dumb ass for the first six months. But it was worth it. 

Back in 2000 I learned how to cold approach and be a social bad ass. The women and sex came simply because it's a natural occurrence between men and women. Women are attracted to a self-expressive, social man. You're not going to get all of them certainly, but you'll have enough. And it's definitely nowhere near as potentially awkward to simply to learn to be social, make friends, lead people socially towards good emotions and vibes, than to become a seducer. This is why it's usually the first step most guys take. The frustration starts when they get hung up on attempting to pursue certain women and realize they're working with a fish net, not a harpoon, haha. ;)

I pursued becoming a seducer back around 2004. And I was in the military, a bad ass, and I got CREAMED sometimes! Like.. holy shit! Could you be even more of a bitch? Wtf's your problem, honey!? I'm just being nice, and I got some fuckin' D if ya want it! No harm no foul! I'm just trying to make a connection, see if we click, and you're being a cunt! Haha.

So yeah.. you've got to develop some STRONG subcoms along with other forms of more "active" speech ;). I've yelled down quite a few girls even groups of people in my time. Some coaches claim they've never been in a fist fight during their time in the game. I certainly have. Only a couple times did it have directly to do with a girl, but it doesn't matter because simply putting yourself out there will draw negative attention from people stuck in that "crabs in a bucket" mentality. So you learn how to project strong anti-victim energy, which is itself also a phase of inner game development, and yes you also learn to put people in their place when they need it, which is another phase. 

But in the end the journey is not about women, in fact the skill set starts to far supersede the goal of "getting laid". It's about pursuing higher levels of self, higher levels of self-expression. Well "pickup" itself starts to interfere with that. Two reasons, first because in some ways you've developed an identity around "how good you are with women and getting laid", and secondly because we need women to attain even higher levels of ourselves. DUH. What do you think they're there for, lol. But many habits formed in pickup interfere with our ability to commune with them. We

try to ignore their potential, to keep them in a box of solely existing to fulfill our sexual needs. PFF. That is fucking stupid. And I can tell you right now not many men have dominated and devoured and dined sexually on the feminine as I have, and I am telling you now that you'll never even get that good at it if you do not see them for their higher selves, their potential to help shape you and give their uniqueness to you. It's not some battle, it's more low key than that. And that's why if you close your ear to them, you'll miss it. 

To continue to try to paint them as inferior, or emotionally weaker, or crazier, is just being stubborn and hanging onto our dark past as a species rather than forging ahead. Look at our world, it's fucked because of patriarchy. Global pollution, the vampirical nature of big business, war, religious radicalism, these are symptoms of a world out of balance with the feminine. We as a species are much evolved past that point. Women are here to inspire us, to fill in the gaps, to give us feedback as only a woman can (most women suck at this but that's another story entirely haha). 

 And so you realize you have to once again rethink and reshape your inner paradigm. So you develop new truths, new guiding principles, you set yourself on a slightly different course, while still maintaining the beast you have become. 

Some realizations you'll have are:

- Not every woman has to fuck you, you don't have to fuck every woman. You are free of any such obligation. And in fact it's healthy for yourself, as well as your friends and society around you, to actually place limits on yourself in this area! This allows you to keep pursuing your higher truth, not one you think will get you laid or net you more friends. All of this of course invariably leads to becoming even sexier (lol) but you have to free yourself of retarded "pu" expectations to keep going down the path of becoming the FULL bad ass you are meant to be. 

- You don't have to doubt yourself, there's only one path. And that's the one you're on. As mentioned above. We all know it's fear that holds us back. This fear comes in the form of self-doubt. "Am I doing the right thing? Is this what I should be doing or saying or dressing like or acting like?" That's a KILLER! Tell all that to fuck off. 

I'll add more later. 

Now its later enough?:))ha

PS:Gold content right here

One shift I had was understanding that girls will inadvertently find and then keep hitting on weaknesses.

I'm hanging out with a girl. We're always teasing back and forth. The vibe is both of us talking shit to each other, saying some pretty mean stuff...then feeling this incredibly dense sexual tension when the dust settles.
Now I forget exactly what she said one time. But of all the terrible things we said to each other, she was able to strike a nerve. Because she hit on a legitimate insecurity.
I didn't feel slighted over all the other "teasing" or "shit talking" because I was fully secure about those things. A shit test is not a tactic to pass and pickup and increase attraction with women..that's dumb pua jargon. Its her pointing out your own weakness to you. She isn't necessarily aware of it herself (atleast not on a logical conscious level). We gotta dial our internal compass to be able to recognize it correctly. She either gets turned on when she senses your security in self and strength OR gets turned off by you subcommunciating tension and pain.

It's not so much about her giving me shit as much as my reaction to it. Did I act congruently? Then for the most part I will have no regrets...however the interaction proceeds. Did I get angry when what I really wanted to do is re-assure her. Did I become passive and stifled when I should have put her in her place. Those are the times I regret because I lost control. I didn't truly Express myself but instead retreated into some old autopilot. If I fail to lead myself I will also fail to lead anyone else.

It's not about what shes doing. It's the underlying reason of why its affecting me in a certain way. She's not purposefully trying to throw me off center (sometimes). The fact that I am being thrown off center though is a call for me to take action to where I have emotional weakness and blindspots.
THAT is the inspiration. I want to work on myself. I want to keep improving. I want to be the most complete, badass, zenith of my own evolution I can be. Whatever that means to me. We will each have our own definition and ideal self.

Blaming her for being "bitchy", moody, trying to get a rise, etc..is such a cop out. Ego shifting responsibility away from my hands.
Women, especially the ones we let close, inspire emotion. It's our job as men to have enough emotional control and fucking rationale to use that as forward momentum and inspiration to create. Rather than either becoming despondent or using it to tear down women, other men, and society.

I'm a fucked up kumqwat