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Duuude, my follow up game is soo weak. I can do crazy shit the same night but when it comes to getting a day2 via text I fuck it up so often.


This Girl I met in a local bar. It's very popular and very crowded. This chick is a barkeeper there and is smoking hot. Typical eastern european goddess. She gets hit on on a regular basis.
So not really even thinking about gaming her I hit her up in between drinks and I'm on fire. Solid laid back frame, being the prize. I qualify her and she complies several times.
Physical escalation was at a minimum but solid. So no crazy picking her up stuff and all that jazz. Just a claw here and there. Guiding her trough the crowd, etc. subtle but solid stuff.
There was definitely a hot vibe between us, we more of less agreed to a meet up soon.
There were another group of hot chicks there that I knew from school so at one point I chilled with them. Instant social proof. The barkeeper girl even brought me free drinks.
At one point I tell her quite manly to give me her number. She tells me that her parents are there (owners of the bar). Scary dude, probably a pimp of some sort. She secretely gives me her number on a small piece of paper. I talk about kidnapping her from her parents lol. (btw she's 28 lol)

So without getting to much into the details of the night here's the whatsapp text convo starting the next day:


Me: you look like a badgirl but you actually seem to be nice
Me: not so sure about you yet ;)
Me: and i'm xxxx
Her: I'm glad you got in touch!!! you should've kidnapped me! :-) I'll get in touch after my appointment in a bit. :-*
Me: well I can still kidnapp you ;)
5hours later
Me: enjoy the sun
Me: u will have to server a lot of VODKA later
the next day
Me: hey diva, wasn't able to come and kidnap you but i hope you had fun anyway
2 hours later
Her: to bad :-((( The bar was packed. I'm exhausted!!! When are you going back?? (she means back to my base) How are you ??
Her: do you really think i'm a diva?? :-) i'm not
2 hours later
Me: I'll be driving back early in the morning. tonight i will chill out
Me: and yes I could actually imagine you to be a lil diva ;)
3 days later
Me: hey beb
Me: are you serving delicous beverages tonite
Her: no unfortunately. I was yesterday though. still working, drving home soon. How are you?
Me: it's awesome. after 3 days in the wild with my team this day is gorgeous.
Me: and my friend vodka thinks so too ;)
Her: i bet. it was crazy packed last night!!!
Her: until 4 am
Me: uh.. till 4 am hordes of drunks and in between these horrible guys like me ;)
Her: you are harmless and charming
Her: not like them

So at this point I'm like wtf. harmless? even tough she might have used that as a compliment I sense a shit test. also that was clearly not the dynamic on our initial meetup. she tought that I'm somekind of  badboy and said that I have bad eyes.  So at this point I try not to accept that frame without qualifying myself or making to much of a statement.

Me: (hard to translate that expression) ah is that so
Me: do you even live in xxx
after a few minutes now response so I reframe so i hold my value
Me: k i'm starting into the night. gonna be crazy. we'll talk another time beb
Me: Have fun
Her: yes in xxx (same district) :-) ! driving home any minute. so tired!! have fun my favorite soldier :-* :-*
2 days later
Me: oh so professional (in reference to her profile picture. looking like a secretary, or something corporate)
Me: i like it
Me: will you try to hook me up with some insurances when we meet
3 days later
Me: salute to my favorite barkeeper
Me: i hope the masses of drunks are bearable. and for them I hope they won't have to feel your bosnian temperament
Me: ;€   (here i meant to write ;) but fucked it up.. lmao horrible, I didn't correct it tho.


So, aside from these weak last texts where do you think I fucked it up?? Seemed solid the beginning then it fell apart. Think I Should've gon for a meetup sooner, but didn't feel right yet.
Gotta get my text game goin, mayne. Another smoking hot chick lost texting.
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wtf man. she was sooo
wtf man. she was sooo invested. all you had to do was cut the fluff and go for the meetup - stop prolonging the gaps between your texting...3 days is too long, hit her up with a picture of you doing something awesome...or just send a funny picture of a cat
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I was on a field exercise
I was on a field exercise with my platoon for several days and we were told that we will traverse water so I didn't pack my phone because I didn't trust my packing skills, lol. So nothing to do about that 3 day gap. Yeah, in retrospect I think I could've cut to the chase sooner. 

What else y'all got?
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Yeah you never tried to meet
Yeah you never tried to meet up with her or even suggest it lol. That will always end up being a battle you lose, because.. you're not even going for anything, and her interest is naturally going to wane. So yeah get her talking again and then suggest a meetup. From there we can look at how things play out and give you some pointers, until then there's nothing to really critique. Just hit her up with something good like "Hey I think I'm pregnant with your child."
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Dude, how do you come up with
Dude, how do you come up with that stuff, it's gold.

Me: Hey I think I'm pregnant with your child
Her: :-) 6 kiss smileys
Me: I hope you're not bailing and i hope you're paying more than the minimum ;)

no response so far.
Lmao, I always have to play games. I should've followed with "let's meet up soon, when are you free" now I lost tempo again.
Where to go from here? Should I just hint a meetup without a response?
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Dude. You're terrible
Dude. You're terrible
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Ok I flipped the script. Went
Ok I flipped the script. Went out partying tonight and also went to that bar. She was working and in real life it's a completely different game. to make things short it got super sexy. Turns out that "I'm pregnant" line is pure money. She said how she had to laugh hard when she read it. I kept flirting and her mafia parents were not there so things were a little more open this time. I ran the train with the result of her saying things like "Put a baby in me for real, then we'll talk" or after I challenged her with something "if I'm done with you you will make all my wishes come true". Obvi I maintained the frame, but I found it funny. Gotta be careful about this one, though. You never know how serious some of these chicks are.

Set a meeting up for tomorrow. Will send her some  short and sweet value stuff, or a funny pic tonight and add a "see you tmrw" to make sure she stays comitted. Then I'll see where it goes.
I'll keep you posted.
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You need to amplify your
You need to amplify your CLOSING tactics by 10 times.

You don't seem dangerous or intimidating at all. You seem like a golden retriever that is growling a little bit. 


Like your first initial game, was just fluffing and going nowhere. You fluff so you can LEAD.   You are just fluffing to be charming.

LEAD man!
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why don't you just wait until
why don't you just wait until her shift finishes and give her a call then.

be like "buy me a burger and chips. grrrr"
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*see edit* Johnny___Doe
*see edit*

Johnny___Doe wrote:
Dude, how do you come up with that stuff, it's gold.

Me: Hey I think I'm pregnant with your child
Her: :-) 6 kiss smileys
Me: I hope you're not bailing. You're going to make a great father don't worry. Now let's get drunk where did you have in mind.

no response so far.
Lmao, I always have to play games. I should've followed with "let's meet up soon, when are you free" now I lost tempo again.
Where to go from here? Should I just hint a meetup without a response?

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haha ye, i used that
haha ye, i used that 'pregnancy' line just now

Me: hey i think i'm pregannt with your child
Her: Loooooooooooool
Me: fuck you. how am i supposed to wear this v neck now!
Her: gonna have to take u shopping for some maternity wear
Me: i dont wanna give you the satisfaction of taking me shopping
Me: ill just 'accidentally' fall down the stairs
Her: Haha
Her: So mean
Me: good. i'm gonna be this mean for approxiamately 9 months..

i think that's how you do it ;)
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Or you could have added some
Or you could have added some kind of potential for a meetup and ascended to transcendency. 
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kaladyn wrote:You need to
kaladyn wrote:
You need to amplify your CLOSING tactics by 10 times.

You don't seem dangerous or intimidating at all. You seem like a golden retriever that is growling a little bit. 


Like your first initial game, was just fluffing and going nowhere. You fluff so you can LEAD.   You are just fluffing to be charming.

LEAD man!



I got u.I fluff way too much over text because I always want to have a certain amount of submissiveness, I guess. In person that's different because you run the train, lead, be physical and you you don't have to react. You're deeply rooted in yourself and allow her to follow you on the ride, looking where she is emotionally from time to time. That dynamic is kinda there over text but harder to grasp for me at least. But like I said my texting and real life game are 2 completely different things. I'm pretty solid there, that's why I was even able to get her to want my D in the first place. There's no shortage of options for her that's for sure.

My goal now is to bring my texting up the speed so I won't have to see them as 2 different skillsets but rather as one entity making up my game.
So I def appreciate all the input.

Unfortunately I have to drive back to base a little bit early this time and couldn't meet her tonight, sucks but yeah let's see what happens.