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with this convo i tried to keep it light and fun, i tired to introduce a bit of sexuality/male-female dynamics and challenge her from time to time. what did i do right, and what should i focus on improving the next time?

me: i am afraid that as an accountant you'll continuously evaluate my potential :b "hmm, his oratorical skills could make some money"

her: not a bad idea :) you just need a bit of promo and some PR

me: some female friend of yours will take care of that

me: we will reward her with kisses and the money we make will finance our joint vacation

her: :D :D :D do you like joint work?

me: no but i like joint vacations. i hope you're not asocial :p

her: i've never tried it :))

me: so you will. but there's still one iomportant question - can you cook?)

her: so that i can cook during the whole vacation and you two will mate or what? (she actually used a word where one letter difference changes the meaning. she used the mating word but she might have wanted to say somthing like partying...i chose to understand the more sexual option)

me: all of us can mate but if you cook from time to time, that won't be bad

her: and why not my friend?

me: she's just coming with us to the vacation but then what?

her: then it's your turn to cook. do you know how?

me: stop by for a dinner and you'll see. how about thursday or friday?

her: well im not going to eat at stranger's :) modern world is full of maniacs (didn't really expect her to take the bait but it was worth a try)

me: well im not sure you're not a serial killer either. lets shame ourselves in public then ;)

her: why shame?

me: i know one well known place. lets crash their reputation)

her: ;D ;D i am not that bad :)

me: we will see about that :p so what about thursday or friday evening?

her: i prefer thursday. a lot of stuff to do on friday before my flight :))

... bla bla, this is the important part as this is where she agreed to come out with me and she did show up. long story short - i took her to shoot some pool, and then we sat in a nearby park. i made out with her - that was kinda funny, i thought she is ready so i went for the kill and she turned her cheek. so i kiseed the cheek and then gently tried to move her head. she resisted about three times but i persisted and then she went for it madly. i kinda failed in the fucking department though. i forgot to project my relationship expectations (none) and didn't push-pull the escalation enough. :/ still should have tried to bring her to my house which i didn't. lame, lame, lame.

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YOu forgot to project your

YOu forgot to project your relationship expectations? What does that even mean?

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Yeah I semi-cringed when I

Yeah I semi-cringed when I read that lol 

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The issue is not the text

The issue is not the text convo it's the way you impotently handled the date. 

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What is important is

What is important is generating a vibe where she begins initiating activities. Not just "agreeing" and having you drag her along.

Your #1 focus should to be to have fun with her and do fun activities. Dont think about how you are talking to her or what she understands, literally just think about what is the most fun.

As far as "escalation", I would reccommend holding your guns off for a while... Dont give in to temptations to get a quick make out. Build up the tenstion until she begins being impatient and literally wants to pounce on you. You must show the broad that you posses self control and rigor.

trust my cyber wisdom brosehp

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SWOLLGUY wrote:What is

SWOLLGUY wrote:
As far as "escalation", I would reccommend holding your guns off for a while... Dont give in to temptations to get a quick make out. Build up the tenstion until she begins being impatient and literally wants to pounce on you. You must show the broad that you posses self control and rigor.

oh man, something just clicked. yesterday i was watching one approach video by steve jabba with sound turned off to observe what he actually does with his body. and there were many moments when he looks at the girl like he wants to kiss her, slowly leans in and then just whispers to her ear. that's probably one of great tools how to build up tension (along with standing really close). what i was doing so far was slowly escalating and then just going for the kiss to show that i am not affraid, and dont follow tradional dating advice of "wait until the end of the date". but that's still only one percent better then what can be done. thanks for this realisation broseph.


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Waiting until the end of the

Waiting until the end of the date is HORRIBLE advice that's impotence. That's some shit jezebel.com or Cosmo magazine would say. Where did you get that from are you reading askmen.com or watching disney movies? You can't use that as an excuse to rationalize your fears and lack of action. 

Swoll the problem with telling guys like this to build tension and such is it only exacerbates the problem at this stage. The REASON guys like myself or Jabba or yourself are able to do that is because we are animals and have that propensity. It's the fact the pendulum could swing, and has, that far over that the tension exists. Imagine telling a tiger to hold tension. Done. Imagine telling a teddy bear to hold the tension. Pff 

AlphaPro you are correct about Jabba he is definitely using that to build tension but he is acting at will and the girl knows that. The fact he's waiting is significant. You are (not) acting from a place of personal paralysis, much different. But the fact you persisted three times was great, and had the desired effect. You eventually created that window by keeping at it and she responded. But then you didn't do anything with it. Another issue going on here is your entire escalation push was for the makeout. You can't bottleneck yourself there her lips are 2% of her body, her ENTIRE body is a playground and must be used, as well as yours. 

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no no no, you're reading this

no no no, you're reading this completely wrong. i get this a lot with you, not sure if i have a problem of making myself clear. :) i do not wait for the end of the date to kiss, i usually go for it within the 30-60 minutes. and i certainly don't think that kiss is the only part of escalation. i intentionally step into her space, often touch her in various ways - i.e. lightly punch in the arm when i tease her, tinkle her when i feel like it, hug her, lift her up, smack her over her ass etc.

im certainly not paralyzed by fear and im always trying new stuff on the next date. it's just that  i am still figuring out how to do this. that's a major difference. and i was certainly slowly pushing towards playing with her V but she was always like "nooo".

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AlphaPro wrote:what i was

AlphaPro wrote:
what i was doing so far was slowly escalating and then just going for the kiss to show that i am not affraid, and dont follow tradional dating advice of "wait until the end of the date". but that's still only one percent better then what can be done.

well.. i did write something else then i meant to say. i wanted to say that its only one percent better than what is normal and nowhere near to what can be done. thats where the confusion probably comes from.

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I'm going completely by how

I'm going completely by how you're describing the scenario. If you cannot describe events and circumstances correctly then I will simply stop responding to your threads. 

long story short - i took her to shoot some pool, and then we sat in a nearby park. i made out with her - that was kinda funny, i thought she is ready so i went for the kill and she turned her cheek. so i kiseed the cheek and then gently tried to move her head. she resisted about three times but i persisted and then she went for it madly. i kinda failed in the fucking department though. i forgot to project my relationship expectations (none) and didn't push-pull the escalation enough. :/ still should have tried to bring her to my house which i didn't. lame, lame, lame.

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Regardless it's all the same

Regardless it's all the same thing, lack of technical know-how or hesitation/fear, the end result is the same. You need to take training this nonsense is not worth my time or effort

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yeah, thats a crap

yeah, thats a crap description. you are right. i was really looking for convo feedback tho and didn't pay much attention to the rest.

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AlphaPro wrote: yeah, thats a

AlphaPro wrote:
yeah, thats a crap description. you are right. i was really looking for convo feedback tho and didn't pay much attention to the rest.

your convo is fine. Just keep rolling with it.

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