My text game with a 9/10 that went well. +commentary
Sun, 04/22/2012 - 11:41
Some girl I've seen off facebook... sends me a pic as a spam msg of her new tattoo or something.
pic of her : http://i.imgur.com/2hOhX.jpg
(face is fucking gorgeous too)
Me : shaila???
Her : Yes =)
Me : daaa fuckkk??? (knowing she'd be like whaaat?)
Her : What???
Me: i dont guess ur too bad of a stalker. how did u get my digits? (i did a 2 part text msg to give her a good vibe to text back on)
Her : Lmao. I have a smart phone and it synced itself with my FB account... Your number is on your FB
Me : well arent u just a brave little girl then. give me something like... and one night, too many glasses of wine later, i would be FB's newest accidental porn model. i know of some pretty epic shit going down sat if ur interested (oops I just woke up when i texted this. goes to show u , u can fumble and still play ball)
Her : Like what?
Me : ur awake? at least i know im insane, but you too? (felt like I had some rapport with a fast text back in the morning)
Her : Lol yes sir =)
Me : thats good, calling me sir already. let me just tell u, if ur well-trained in the kitchen, ur gonna be off to a great start (moving the conversation into qualifying her)
Her : Lol I may be a small woman but I LOVE to cook. =)
Me : cmon now u cant bullshit me like that. ur prolly like a little energizer bunny that just dances all the time. if u ever started arguing with me id just be like DANCE BITCH and u'd be like mmmm okayyyy!!!! (moving the conversation into more dominant man to woman, and starting to be sexual)
Her : No, I don't, in fact, sleep enough but I do keep a clean house, cook three meals minimum daily and work myself to death. I love to dance but I do it while I work therefore it isn't done at home often. (i guess i hit a soft spot about how she feels about herself working or whatever... good for me)
Me : i didn't think i'd be at ur house arguing with u. u honestly give me a bit of a lesbian vibe. i love workaholics. i admire that quality. i think its one of the best qualities anybody can have. buuutttt i cant really notice any kind of personality u have past a divine little body.
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dont be shy ;) left u details on the party in ur inbox (she said she doesnt dance at home, i just took it as an interpretation she was going to dance for me at her house... some genuine fluff, then stealing a line about "i cant really notice etc"
Her : lesbian vibe...... nice (this actually had no relation what really happened)
Me : my friend swear u had red hair a month ago. u were in sherman drinking (i thought she was another chick)
Her: ive never had red hair. Was blonde for years. I do drink and I live in TX tho
Me: you drink AND live in texas??? i think you might qualify! on a scale of 1-10 & Holy Shit.... how good can u make a damn sammich? <3
Her : hilarious. (ok im not an entertainer. lets get this on the right track)
Me : r u single?
Her : Ya why?
Me : cuz im asking, u like dinsoaurs, i like dinosaurs, lets get this thing movin (i think that line is hilarious, i wanted to be direct enough, but also joke around)
Her : Lol =)
Me : http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-m6_PeRRMhA0/TivGPfviHBI/AAAAAAAAP8I/V_ORxLtAg2... (cracked myself the fuck up with that)
::: CONCLUSION :::
Look if you are trying to learn texting girls. This is a good structure to follow.
1) Say WHATEVER you have to, to get her texting you and interested in you
2) Lead it into man:to:woman frame, dominant frame, qualify her
3) Take it sexual (ideally I'd love to be sexting her way sooner... even though right now as I write this, I'm giving her shit about riding me instead of me doing the work)
This is a pyramid framework, if you lose 1) , the whole structure collapses. 2) can't exist without 3).
my 2 cents!
(anyways, messaged her some details of a party, she texts me back "Hey! you're crazy. how was your day today?" or something. facebook being gay, can't check it.... been texting her tonight 5am in the morning, she tells me she showed a couple people her texts between me cuz they "were so epic")
I texted her tonight some more laid back shit. I didn't put NEAR as much thought into saying the perfect thing... but I think it was like several dozen msgs back and forth over the last hour or two.
pic of her : http://i.imgur.com/2hOhX.jpg
(face is fucking gorgeous too)
Me : shaila???
Her : Yes =)
Me : daaa fuckkk??? (knowing she'd be like whaaat?)
Her : What???
Me: i dont guess ur too bad of a stalker. how did u get my digits? (i did a 2 part text msg to give her a good vibe to text back on)
Her : Lmao. I have a smart phone and it synced itself with my FB account... Your number is on your FB
Me : well arent u just a brave little girl then. give me something like... and one night, too many glasses of wine later, i would be FB's newest accidental porn model. i know of some pretty epic shit going down sat if ur interested (oops I just woke up when i texted this. goes to show u , u can fumble and still play ball)
Her : Like what?
Me : ur awake? at least i know im insane, but you too? (felt like I had some rapport with a fast text back in the morning)
Her : Lol yes sir =)
Me : thats good, calling me sir already. let me just tell u, if ur well-trained in the kitchen, ur gonna be off to a great start (moving the conversation into qualifying her)
Her : Lol I may be a small woman but I LOVE to cook. =)
Me : cmon now u cant bullshit me like that. ur prolly like a little energizer bunny that just dances all the time. if u ever started arguing with me id just be like DANCE BITCH and u'd be like mmmm okayyyy!!!! (moving the conversation into more dominant man to woman, and starting to be sexual)
Her : No, I don't, in fact, sleep enough but I do keep a clean house, cook three meals minimum daily and work myself to death. I love to dance but I do it while I work therefore it isn't done at home often. (i guess i hit a soft spot about how she feels about herself working or whatever... good for me)
Me : i didn't think i'd be at ur house arguing with u. u honestly give me a bit of a lesbian vibe. i love workaholics. i admire that quality. i think its one of the best qualities anybody can have. buuutttt i cant really notice any kind of personality u have past a divine little body.
---
dont be shy ;) left u details on the party in ur inbox (she said she doesnt dance at home, i just took it as an interpretation she was going to dance for me at her house... some genuine fluff, then stealing a line about "i cant really notice etc"
Her : lesbian vibe...... nice (this actually had no relation what really happened)
Me : my friend swear u had red hair a month ago. u were in sherman drinking (i thought she was another chick)
Her: ive never had red hair. Was blonde for years. I do drink and I live in TX tho
Me: you drink AND live in texas??? i think you might qualify! on a scale of 1-10 & Holy Shit.... how good can u make a damn sammich? <3
Her : hilarious. (ok im not an entertainer. lets get this on the right track)
Me : r u single?
Her : Ya why?
Me : cuz im asking, u like dinsoaurs, i like dinosaurs, lets get this thing movin (i think that line is hilarious, i wanted to be direct enough, but also joke around)
Her : Lol =)
Me : http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-m6_PeRRMhA0/TivGPfviHBI/AAAAAAAAP8I/V_ORxLtAg2... (cracked myself the fuck up with that)
::: CONCLUSION :::
Look if you are trying to learn texting girls. This is a good structure to follow.
1) Say WHATEVER you have to, to get her texting you and interested in you
2) Lead it into man:to:woman frame, dominant frame, qualify her
3) Take it sexual (ideally I'd love to be sexting her way sooner... even though right now as I write this, I'm giving her shit about riding me instead of me doing the work)
This is a pyramid framework, if you lose 1) , the whole structure collapses. 2) can't exist without 3).
my 2 cents!
(anyways, messaged her some details of a party, she texts me back "Hey! you're crazy. how was your day today?" or something. facebook being gay, can't check it.... been texting her tonight 5am in the morning, she tells me she showed a couple people her texts between me cuz they "were so epic")
I texted her tonight some more laid back shit. I didn't put NEAR as much thought into saying the perfect thing... but I think it was like several dozen msgs back and forth over the last hour or two.
Sun, 04/22/2012 - 13:05
#1
So the issue here is you did
So the issue here is you did the first part pretty good, and then didn't switch gears when she opened up to you. If you want to look at it from a purely "game" point of view, she tried to force you into comfort, you didn't read the signs, and stayed in attraction. She's like.. I'm a real woman. And you're like.. BAM. I'm batman, bitch.
So really it never got past 2nd gear there's the rest of the territory to even get into. You stayed "epic text man".
So really it never got past 2nd gear there's the rest of the territory to even get into. You stayed "epic text man".
Sun, 04/22/2012 - 13:25
#2
I would still fuck you tho.
I would still fuck you tho.
Sun, 04/22/2012 - 17:07
#3
So... right after writing
So... right after writing that, she invited me over to "cuddle for a couple hours" She lives TWO MILES away from me. O.O
Got over there, she led me to her bed before there was even an introduction really, I was like Shit? Are we going to shake hands or something?
Gave her a hug and got into bed and we were talking , played with her hand rubbing my chest to keep physical contact going.
We talked for a while, 20 minutes, paused her and planted a big kiss on her, then went back to chit chatting and I didn't escalate any from there.
WHICH HERES THE THING :::: I didn't feel like escalating and going for sex. I just chilled and talked for an hour, then like took a quick nap with her.
Is that counter-productive? Should I have closed the deal?
I feel like she'll invite me back over. She really showed interest, built a ton of comfort with her. I think she will feel better about not sleeping with me right then and there.
We woke back up and I kissed her again and left.
Me and her were just spinning stories back and forth that demonstrate our personalities, and we were both like "holy shit we are a lot alike"
It was funny, got into some depth into the conversation, and I TOTALLY overlooked her dropping several hints for me to come by. I was like woahhh hold the fuck up, I just realized u told me u live in the same town as me! (I thought this girl lived 1-2 hours away, she lives 3 minutes away)
Got over there, she led me to her bed before there was even an introduction really, I was like Shit? Are we going to shake hands or something?
Gave her a hug and got into bed and we were talking , played with her hand rubbing my chest to keep physical contact going.
We talked for a while, 20 minutes, paused her and planted a big kiss on her, then went back to chit chatting and I didn't escalate any from there.
WHICH HERES THE THING :::: I didn't feel like escalating and going for sex. I just chilled and talked for an hour, then like took a quick nap with her.
Is that counter-productive? Should I have closed the deal?
I feel like she'll invite me back over. She really showed interest, built a ton of comfort with her. I think she will feel better about not sleeping with me right then and there.
We woke back up and I kissed her again and left.
Me and her were just spinning stories back and forth that demonstrate our personalities, and we were both like "holy shit we are a lot alike"
It was funny, got into some depth into the conversation, and I TOTALLY overlooked her dropping several hints for me to come by. I was like woahhh hold the fuck up, I just realized u told me u live in the same town as me! (I thought this girl lived 1-2 hours away, she lives 3 minutes away)
Sun, 04/22/2012 - 17:42
#4
"She's like.. I'm a real
"She's like.. I'm a real woman. And you're like.. BAM. I'm batman, bitch." lol that creates the perfect image in my head.
Your texts were hilarious btw- this was pretty cool. But yeah- I learned this the hard way and finally started doing it, but you just gotta know when to pull back and be real... I learned this through okcupid and then applied it to text... still in the process of figuring it out.
Thiis isn't anything I've been taught but I have a thought on this: A good "cue" so to speak, as to when to pull back and be real, is simply to recognize when she's "fighting" it, in a sense. And by "fighting" this could mean she's literally telling you that she thinks it's weird, or it could be more subtle (like in this case) where she's not responding within your frame. Like here you would send some hilarious texts and then she would respond like a real woman and then you'd hit her back with some more crazy shti... It was like this constant back and forth, where that, "Ball of energy" that julien speaks of, never could really grow because neither of you were really IN SYNC with eachother... like you were both just really set on doing your own thing.
i've found that pulling back and being real, even if it's just for 3-4 texts can TOTALLY CHANGE this dynamic. Then you can shift back into batman mode and she may start playing along. Once she starts playing along, you can actually start seeding SO MUCH because she's just completely bought into your frame.
These are just some thoughts so, very much the TIP of the iceberg and I know manwhore has sososo much more that he could say/add about this.
Your texts were hilarious btw- this was pretty cool. But yeah- I learned this the hard way and finally started doing it, but you just gotta know when to pull back and be real... I learned this through okcupid and then applied it to text... still in the process of figuring it out.
Thiis isn't anything I've been taught but I have a thought on this: A good "cue" so to speak, as to when to pull back and be real, is simply to recognize when she's "fighting" it, in a sense. And by "fighting" this could mean she's literally telling you that she thinks it's weird, or it could be more subtle (like in this case) where she's not responding within your frame. Like here you would send some hilarious texts and then she would respond like a real woman and then you'd hit her back with some more crazy shti... It was like this constant back and forth, where that, "Ball of energy" that julien speaks of, never could really grow because neither of you were really IN SYNC with eachother... like you were both just really set on doing your own thing.
i've found that pulling back and being real, even if it's just for 3-4 texts can TOTALLY CHANGE this dynamic. Then you can shift back into batman mode and she may start playing along. Once she starts playing along, you can actually start seeding SO MUCH because she's just completely bought into your frame.
These are just some thoughts so, very much the TIP of the iceberg and I know manwhore has sososo much more that he could say/add about this.
Sun, 04/22/2012 - 17:43
#5
Oh and yeah... you didn't
Oh and yeah... you didn't fuck her. that's kinda gay.
Actually, it's not gay that you didn't fuck her- it's gay that you didn't TRY... Like you totally just 100% bought into her frame so much that you even rationalized to yourself that you WANTED to cuddle with her.
You're supposed to do that to her- not the other way around, man ; )
Actually, it's not gay that you didn't fuck her- it's gay that you didn't TRY... Like you totally just 100% bought into her frame so much that you even rationalized to yourself that you WANTED to cuddle with her.
You're supposed to do that to her- not the other way around, man ; )
Sun, 04/22/2012 - 17:45
#6
I'm nowhere near manwhore's
I'm nowhere near manwhore's level of expertise, but I would have fucked her. Screw playing games and thinking about the best moves.
Sun, 04/22/2012 - 17:45
#7
yeah, I think it's important
yeah, I think it's important to note that it's okay not to fuck the girl... But it's NOT OKAY to not TRY and fuck her... Big difference.
If you make your best effort, that's cool... Don't beat yourself up over results.. Beat yourself up over NOT TRYING.
If you make your best effort, that's cool... Don't beat yourself up over results.. Beat yourself up over NOT TRYING.
Sun, 04/22/2012 - 19:00
#8
shit cock fuck... here i am
shit cock fuck... here i am like "yeah i didnt rationalize it like that really, but i could of prolly fucked her if i tried...."
then im like DAMNIT then i should have!
oh well, i think if i just totally take control of the situation, ill just tell her im coming over and smashing her or something
then im like DAMNIT then i should have!
oh well, i think if i just totally take control of the situation, ill just tell her im coming over and smashing her or something
Sun, 04/22/2012 - 20:43
#9
Her inviting you to come
Her inviting you to come cuddle is a pleasant surprise. You have the rest of the convo for that?
No need to actually tell her youre going over to smash. Just head over there in regular context and escalate. You don't need to force her to acknowledge it to get some kind of permission from her.
I always go for the lay, simply because I love girls' naked bodies and being inside them, and I can't tell you how many times Ive thought "oh this is in the bag I'm going to just chill with this girl and not escalate so fast even tho I know I could.." and we never hung out again. Just the other night I finally banged this girl after over TWO years of misfiring at each other. First two years ago then a year ago I didnt just take ruthless control and slay her and really weird circumstances out of my control fucked it up for us. Finally the other night she RANDOMLY Facebook checks into a vegas spot (the last time we'd seen each other I yelled at her lol) and I hit her up over text. Boom 2 hrs later she's at my house Im like FUCK IT. Dick is going into vagina.
She is SO HAPPY.
Why did I hold back with this girl initially? 'Cuz I wanted a relationship with her and mistakenly thought escalating too fast would endanger that. I assumed she'd be back we gel'd so well with each other. Nope didnt happen. Jealous mutual acquaintances and other stupidity happened that made me lose sight of one simple fact:
The fasted way into a relationship with a girl is to sleep with her. Bar none. That is proper game
No need to actually tell her youre going over to smash. Just head over there in regular context and escalate. You don't need to force her to acknowledge it to get some kind of permission from her.
I always go for the lay, simply because I love girls' naked bodies and being inside them, and I can't tell you how many times Ive thought "oh this is in the bag I'm going to just chill with this girl and not escalate so fast even tho I know I could.." and we never hung out again. Just the other night I finally banged this girl after over TWO years of misfiring at each other. First two years ago then a year ago I didnt just take ruthless control and slay her and really weird circumstances out of my control fucked it up for us. Finally the other night she RANDOMLY Facebook checks into a vegas spot (the last time we'd seen each other I yelled at her lol) and I hit her up over text. Boom 2 hrs later she's at my house Im like FUCK IT. Dick is going into vagina.
She is SO HAPPY.
Why did I hold back with this girl initially? 'Cuz I wanted a relationship with her and mistakenly thought escalating too fast would endanger that. I assumed she'd be back we gel'd so well with each other. Nope didnt happen. Jealous mutual acquaintances and other stupidity happened that made me lose sight of one simple fact:
The fasted way into a relationship with a girl is to sleep with her. Bar none. That is proper game