Froyo to my Dorm LMR: "I'm sorry if I was in any way disappointing..lol"
A few weeks ago I started texting this girl I met 5 months ago. We texted a few times after breifly meeting in person and getting herr number but my game was awful and it went nowhere. I reenaged and she was SUPER receptive to everything I said, it was really easy to get her out. I'm not sure if my texting was just good or she had her eye on me through social media or something.
This chick goes to a neighboring school so I picked her up for late night froyo. When she got into the car I went for a kiss on the cheek and she kinda darted for my lips lol! This kinda threw me off because it has never happened before but I managed to kiss her somewhere on her face. We head to froyo and shoot the shit in the car. I kiss her at stop light and tell her because she's just so damn cute and that its all her fault. She makes a comment about me having no filter and we just start talking about bizzare crazy shit, defintely an awesome awesome vibe going on. She wonders why I decided to hit her up again and makes an off hand comment about how it's a little weird because we only met once. I don't make much of it though.
We get froyo and more verbal shit fests go down, she was really fun to talk to, and look at! We joke with each other in the parking lot and cuddle a bit on the way to the car. Once we get in I start to escalate, this is how I have done it before. She pulls away after 10 seconds. It is pretty clear we aren't having sex in the car at that point. I drive around and tell her we are going to my dorm to see my cool lights and wolf poster. She accepts not problem. We get too my room and she's being all cute putting on my glasses and stuff. We make out again, this time I'm more aggressive because I want to make sure thats not the limiting factor here. She pushes away and mumbles, "..who do you think I am." I back off and do some work on my computer and she plays around in my room.
A few min later she cuddles up next to me in bed. We talk for a bit and I make sure to really captivate her before I escalate again. Her eyes says she's ready and I lean in again, I tell her she gave me a boner and put her hand on it but she pulls away. She's not rejecting me big time but kindly giggling the whole situation off. I did not whip my dick out it did not feel appropiate whatsover. She makes a comment about me being an aggressive kisser and we laugh it off. I kinda freeze out again and tell her I need to change my shirt but she can't watch because that would be inappropaite. Obviously she glances at me. I get back on the bed with her and kinda just lay there and talk about going to bed as a joke. We spent 20 min playing with my cool lights and I start putting her hands on my body and blaming her for lifting up my shirt and stuff.
She starts really enjoying touching me and I spank her with my foot lol. We are super interested in each other at this point kinda just gazing into each others eyes while we talk about nonsense. I try and escalate one more time. This time, I feel her body up a bit then kiss her, yet again she expresses that she's just not ready for much more. I look at the clock and its getting late so I tell her I better drive her home. She stays in my bed like she wants to stay so I jokingly get under the covers, she says something along the lines of "I wish I could stay over but I can't" We get up and put our jackets on and stuff, look at each other and make out one last time. I pull away from the make out this time becuase I didn't want to try and esclate yet again, I just laugh and tell her about how late it is. We walk outside when she realizes she left her glasses inside, I make a funny comment about her being one of those crazies that leave stuff at dudes places. She jokes about her needing another excuse to come back (maybe she was serious?). I drive her home and we make fun of her minivan, she says something that hints about seeing me again. I will post the full text convo at the bottom of the thread but what i'd like below is the text engagement after the date.
Her: hey thanks again for the froyo :)
Me: No prob ms.sourpatchbooty I hope you don't miss my cool lights too much
Her: lolol
Her: I miss your cool lights
Her: Sorry If I was anyway dissapointng..lol
Me: lol I just returned to the red light district beb (she said my red lights were prostitute lights)
Me: your cool no worries
Her: lol oh good :)
Her: talk to you tomorrow?
Me: yah pumpkin ill text yah goodnight!
Her: goodnight (pumpkin emoji)
So I am wondering how I handled all of this. I thought the LMR busting stuff I did was good, she appeared to be really turned on but holding herself back. Judging from the texting she really digs me but did I push too much? I genuinely had a fantastic time with her regardless and I'm wondering if that text was a bit of a red flag that I put too much sexual pressure on her or appeared very thirsty. If anyone has advice on the LMR feel free to comment. Not that I have a big problem that things didn't go down this time, but if blowing past the LMR would have deepened our relationship than I would like to know how that would be done. All in all though really enjoyed her and the night, I really made en effort to soften myself whilst maintain my polarity and it made for good game and happier me.
Here is the whole convo: (will post the whole thing tomorrow its late)
Me: I think im pregnant with your child
her: it cant be
Her: how many weeks has it been
Her: is it a boy or girl??
Me: two twin lil girls
Me: girl..! your awfully late on the child support payments as well <----doesn't even make sense, but it has authority to it
Her: you never told me
Her: I had a say
Me: you owe me ice cream
Her: your right
Her: just say when
Me: how bout tomorrow, whats your sched lookin like
Her: that might be difficult considering im in (state)
Her: (crying laughing emoji)
Me: aww shit id fly down but these gawd damn kids...
Me: when yah coming back
Her: lolol
Her: the 14th!
Me: k. homie Ill hit yah up when yer home
Her: :)
Light slow wrestling is a great way to go when you have a girl in bed. Intermitten biting and nibbling on her, while moving and rubbing your body against hers.
I go in and I'm crisp, clean and my vocals are fucking coming out like music. - Anonymous MW student
- Autismus Terminus Finis (Root Cause/Cure of Autism Epidemic)
- Called Off My Wedding & Other Turn Tail Signs Of The American Male
She wonders why I decided to hit her up again and makes an off hand comment about how it's a little weird because we only met once.
You need to turn that shit around on her and be like, "Well if you weren't so gorgeous I wouldn't have to hit on you constantly." If a girl ever gives me crap because I'm "Aggressive" or whatever it's never my fault, it's hers for looking so amazing! I LOVE telling girls how good they look and how they make me feel. It feels great and makes her feel great too! If I see her and she looks amazing I'll tell her first thing along with the kiss and whatnot so she knows what's up. It sets the right tone and she doesn't mind my little flirtatious touching cuz its just fun and it feels good!
Also, I see that you're talking a lot about kissing her. Are you focusing on the lips too much or are you enjoying her whole face and body? She wanted to get fucked, it looks like something deceptively simple was missing.
Me: your cool no worries
I swear to christ every time I see your text convos you mix up "your" and "you're." That shit triggers me.
^ Lol! I'm the biggest grammar nazi whore
I go in and I'm crisp, clean and my vocals are fucking coming out like music. - Anonymous MW student
- Autismus Terminus Finis (Root Cause/Cure of Autism Epidemic)
- Called Off My Wedding & Other Turn Tail Signs Of The American Male
Meow wrote:
She wonders why I decided to hit her up again and makes an off hand comment about how it's a little weird because we only met once.You need to turn that shit around on her and be like, "Well if you weren't so gorgeous I wouldn't have to hit on you constantly." If a girl ever gives me crap because I'm "Aggressive" or whatever it's never my fault, it's hers for looking so amazing! I LOVE telling girls how good they look and how they make me feel. It feels great and makes her feel great too! If I see her and she looks amazing I'll tell her first thing along with the kiss and whatnot so she knows what's up. It sets the right tone and she doesn't mind my little flirtatious touching cuz its just fun and it feels good!
Also, I see that you're talking a lot about kissing her. Are you focusing on the lips too much or are you enjoying her whole face and body? She wanted to get fucked, it looks like something deceptively simple was missing.
Meow wrote:
Me: your cool no worriesI swear to christ every time I see your text convos you mix up "your" and "you're." That shit triggers me.
LOL its the autocorrect I swear!
YES, the whole body is the key the lips were getting repetitive! The only time I actually started to get somewhere was when I put her hands on me and we cuddled up a bit but then I went right back to the god damn lips! Never thought about it that way. Her body was sooo hot too.
Should I try and get her out again tomorrow or is that an overkill? she obv wants to hangout again
Here is the whole text thread from before the date, and the next date. It's kinda good so might as well post her.
Me: I know I said you owe me ice cream but what I really wanna do is go ice skating on a half frozen pond with you
Me: the first loser to fall through the ice buys hot coco
Me: you're tacky and I hate you
Her: lol ah i'm sorry its been a long day
Her: I would love to go ice skating but not on a half frozen pond :)
Me: Okay imma skate circles around yah (kissy face emoji)
Me: whats your class schedule like
Her: lol I have a lot of free time on tuesdays and thursdays
Me: I have night class till 8 next tuesday lets go afterwards
Me: you still at (school)?
Her: yeah
Her: where do you go again
Me: (school)
Her: im in da hood too
Her: lol wait really?
Me: yes so your right down the road ill just pick yah
Me: up
Me: Just be prepared for the gang fights we may get into :)
Her: lmaoo
Her: You're wild
Me: gotta go and drink some coronas
Me: keep tuesday in mind
Her: lol alright :)
few days later
Me: Hi this is your figure skating partner checkin in. I hope you have been practicing your flips and spins
Her: (crying laughing emojis)
Her: totally gonna bust my ass tomorrow
Me: lol me too
Me: so I have class till 8 tomorrow imma shower then pick ya up in the batmobile
Her: lmao ill believe it when I see it
Her: what rink are we going to?
Me: I think olympia or whatever its called ill check online tonight and find something kewl
Her: haha okay :)
Me: dude im on my way to walmart it is so entertaining at night
Me: epitome of the ghetto :/
Her: (crying laughing emoji)
Her: I hate going there
Me: (picture of me driving a motorized cart <---I KNOW I KNOW im a bad person there was like 10 open ones)
Me: new whip (cool glasses emoji)
Her: omg (cyring laughing emoji)
Me: aww I feel bad for riding that thing now :/
Me: ill will see yah tomorrow lil homie ill txt you when I get outta class
Her: okay goodnight!
Me: you up beb?
Me: I fucked up and didnt check the rink schedule. Apprently old lady hockey teams play at night and we wouldn't exactly fit in there lol
Me: soo I guess I owe you froyo now for being an idiot. We will be doing that instead, maybe even rob the place of all their m&ms while we are at it :)
next day
Her: hahahaha okay sounds good
Me: just got outta class gotta shower then im getting you gimme 30
Her: okay!
Me: 5 min what building you at
Her: building :)
Me: ill look for it lol if I cant find it ill call yah
Her: haha okay its back of our campus
Her: past football fields
Me: (I call and joke about being lost as fuck then tell her im gonna get the job done and find her on my own)
Me: fuckin made it!
Me: white car
Her: comiing
(insert texts after date that were posted above)
Me: I just ate 4 different types of cake on the same plate im a super badass
Me: hows your day treatin yah hun
Her: hey sorry!
Her: it was alright
Me: yah my day was great to thanks for asking :P
Me: only alright? was the zillow app down or something lol <---she surfs zillow for fun lol
Me: too*
Her: lmaoo
Her: idk imm just tired
Me: then go to bed then granny panties
Her: buuut I wanna watch a movie
Me: I'm at work getting PAID to watch movies
Her: omg how
Her: what do you do?
Me: imma PCA for (name) (grandma #3)
Me: I help around the house, watch the dogs, and just chill with her
Her: lol what
Her: seriously
Me: um yes
Me: she's a good time too
Her: (cry laugh emoji)
Her: im jealous
Me: She couldnt hang with me tho she's asleep rn
Me: (DOPE meme off two veggies that look like a dude and girl caption "when you just chillen with bae after sex") <---the whole implication here was twisted as fuck buuuut I enjoyed it
Her: (crying laughing emoji)
Me: soo the womens hockey team just invited us to skate with them friday night. They want you in goal
Her: haha yeah right
Me: are you free friday night
Me: I found a spot to speed skate
Her: like what time friday night
Me: rink opens at 7:30
Her: ah I can't :(
Her: saturday?
Me: hmm yes but you can't kidnap me for too long
Me: I need to be back at my dorm for party time im having a pregame in my dorm
Her: haha alright :)
Me: I will be pick you up at 7 pm on sat. Dress warm because 95% we fall on the ice :)
Her: lmao
Her: im gonna look like a marshmallow
Me: hmm good thing I eat marshmallows
Her: (crying laughing emoji)
Her: it wont be in a good way
Me: ill nibble all over you lil marshmallow girl
Me: ive gotta help (name) to bed. night snowflake see yah saturday
Her: Goodnight :) (snowflake emoji)
She is not exactly fun to text but it's whatever. Plus 5 point for her mimicking my pet names when she says goodnight tho. I think my text game is getting pretty good I don't think anymore wow factor would have heightened the convo with her, she responds lmao 50% of the time.
Here is the deal, I'm going to be cutting my saturday night very close.
I have pregame plans with another girl around 9:45-10ish at my dorm, so I have several options:
- convince her to bring me to HER dorm (our schools are 5 min apart) but this is a logistically pretty poor. Not that she wouldn't but I want to be in control
- fuck in my car
- bring her to my dorm after we skate BUT I really don't want to do this. I could potentially really fuck up if the other girl see's her and I just don't want to potentially hurt someone
- bring her to my parents house to see my dogs (which is fairly close to) and bang her there
- try and arrange to hangout before ice skating and bang her before?
- Try and hangout with pregame girl friday instead...but that wouldn't exactly cancel out saturdays plans either
OPTIONS OPTIONS OPTIONS HMM just spit ballin here guys
Ideally it would be wicked fun to esclate hard while ice skating and get her so hot and bothered that we fuck in the car. Thats it i'm going to try and bang her as quick as possible and just roll with it.
input appreciated!?
Yes but don't insult her or call her names or hurt her like all those other women. Be good to her. Strong. Sexy without being an asshole
I go in and I'm crisp, clean and my vocals are fucking coming out like music. - Anonymous MW student
- Autismus Terminus Finis (Root Cause/Cure of Autism Epidemic)
- Called Off My Wedding & Other Turn Tail Signs Of The American Male
Yup, she's a sweetheart there wasn't a single moment of that bullshit from me last time we were together. I was so sweet to her it felt like my heart was melting HAHA, truly emotions I have not been accessing for a very long time.
Me: yes so your right down the road ill just pick yah
Balls in your mouth
I really like you but you're silly looking in that clown suit
I prefer coconut oil but the way you cook those eggs is your choice
Unicorns are cute but you're on another level
I went to your house but an army of nasty kittens attacked me
You're the one giving me these magical boners. Your hair smells nice and I like the way you smile. You're the craziest cowgirl on this side of the Mississippi. Your sexiness compliments my sexiness like milk and cookies.
This problem is eradicated ladies and gentlemen!
Balls in your mouth
I must say, you're one of the cutest lil creatures I have ever layed my eyes on.
I prefer coconut oil but the way you cook those eggs is your choice. Just remember butter is a terrible lubricant.
Unicorns are cute but you're on another level
I went to your house but an army of nasty kittens attacked me
You're the one giving me these magical boners. Your hair smells nice and I like the way you smile. You're the craziest cowgirl on this side of the Mississippi. Your sexiness compliments my sexiness like milk and cookies.
This problem is eradicated ladies and gentlemen!
It's all good I'm just memeing anyway. I know you know the difference, but it's harder to remember when you're talking to a hot-ass girl.
Yeah escalate in car and fuck her. "Give me your lips." And go from there..
I go in and I'm crisp, clean and my vocals are fucking coming out like music. - Anonymous MW student
- Autismus Terminus Finis (Root Cause/Cure of Autism Epidemic)
- Called Off My Wedding & Other Turn Tail Signs Of The American Male
That's the plan..ugh my car is gonna be so freezing fuckin cold at first!
def the most exciting option that is how I want it to go down
If there is an hiccups I will take her home and wrestle around and go that route
Ah yeah forgot about the weather. Where are you and what kind of car is it? You can use that as a reason for staying close that's for sure.
I go in and I'm crisp, clean and my vocals are fucking coming out like music. - Anonymous MW student
- Autismus Terminus Finis (Root Cause/Cure of Autism Epidemic)
- Called Off My Wedding & Other Turn Tail Signs Of The American Male
Ah yeah forgot about the weather. Where are you and what kind of car is it? You can use that as a reason for staying close that's for sure.
New England weather man, and it is a 4 door infiniti sedan so not a ton of room but it totally worked a few weeks ago. With the last girl we were at the mall so we weren't all bundled up and it was not super cold so I just turned the car on and banged and turned it off halfway through.
My only concern here is that we are going ice skating and are going to be wearing fuckin jackets and hats, and the weather is will be below freezing. I don't want to escalate super hard in a situation that might be physically uncomfortable for 5 minutes until the car warms up.
Also, the front seat is just not big enough to do much other than makeout and that didn't work great last time with this girlie. I would love to fuck in the car because it is excitingl but it may not be the right place for her. I can just take her home I don't see her having any issue with that, then we can wrestle around and enjoy each other and go from there.
You scoot her chair back, then lean the seat back. Then you've got plenty of room
I go in and I'm crisp, clean and my vocals are fucking coming out like music. - Anonymous MW student
- Autismus Terminus Finis (Root Cause/Cure of Autism Epidemic)
- Called Off My Wedding & Other Turn Tail Signs Of The American Male
I'll fuck with that a bit today on my own, still don't see how I'm getting my pants off in the front seats :p
Put both your feet on the floor of the passenger seat, you're above her so to speak. Slide your pants down below your knees. This way you've got the ability to spread your legs and create a good balance and center of gravity. Now the girl.. it depends.. sometimes I want them completely fucking naked and they're my little fuck toy and I take my time. Other times I know I'm down to a bit more of a tightwire with the whole situation. So I just lift up her hips, slide her pants down over her hips and, actually if you think about it correctly, slide them up her thighs to about her knees. From here you can scootch her bum out away from the car seat, left her ankles over her head, and good penetration is a go.
I go in and I'm crisp, clean and my vocals are fucking coming out like music. - Anonymous MW student
- Autismus Terminus Finis (Root Cause/Cure of Autism Epidemic)
- Called Off My Wedding & Other Turn Tail Signs Of The American Male
Mmmmmmmmm that sounds really fun. Thanks that does make sense to me now I can do that.
Wow, I'm very surprised with what went down last night. A bit confused too.
I pick her up and she's visibly very excited to see me, incredibly giggly and cute. I grab her and kiss her lips and slowly move to her cheek and really enjoy her face. We drive to the ice skating rink and she's super engaging towards me, I run the best verbal game I have and she's laughing her fucking ass off. I slowly gaze at her at stop lights, we both shut up and enjoy some sexy eye contact and smile.
She starts asking very personal questions about my family. I come to find out that her mom passed away a few years back from cancer. Both her parents worked at the same engineering company so I craft up something cute about how they probably did romantic math dates together, I try to make her feel good and showcase that I understand how tough something like losing a parent must be and that I can be an emotional rock for her.
We look for the ice skating rink and we get stopped by the cops for going through the wrong entrance and getting lost in the park. She is making fun of my car claiming that the batmobile is missing all of the functions to run from the cops and break through fences. She makes a funny joke about my car having no balls, I twist it into something about my balls in her mouth lol.We finally find the ice skating rink. I park in the back of the lot, she says something about us having to walk far now but I let her know that people are always hitting my car with shit. We get out of the car and I scoop her up and throw her over my shoulder while squeezing her butt. She lets out a little scream of joy. At this point I'm very sure we are having sex because she likes that I am paying attention to her whole body. We get inside and get our skates.
We get on the ice and I realize that I'm really fucking good at ice skating lol I ski a lot and I forgot how similar they are. She's skating around trying to not fall on her butt while I'm literally skating around her and manipulating her body in any way I want. I come up behind her and grab her hips and put my hands up her shirt, she likes it but is embarrased by all the people around us. I skate around and come out of nowhere and block her path so she skates right into me. We lock hands and look into each other's eyes and kiss whilst blocking traffic. We skate some more and I come behind her and slap her butt a few times. I spin her around like a figure skater and place her hands on my body. I also take some time to skate around and have fun on my own, I learned the hotline bling dance on skates!
We take a break for a few minutes and get back to the ice. We both get a lil obnoxious and laugh at all the little kids. Some kid falls in front of her and I help him up and ask him if "this bad girl did this to you." We skate next to each other and I make a loud statement, "woahh did you just touch my dick." We laugh our asses off. I start nibbing on her shoulders and neck a bit. We leave the ice. She asks me how I got so verbally creative, she starts questioning about all of the pet names I use and admits that it's pretty interesting and hot when I say them (thanks Manwhore!).
We start walking to my car and I escalate really hard. I pick her up and spin her around, set her down and run my hands down her entire body. I hold very sexual eye contact. She makes a comment about me being so aggresive AGAIN, I told her that she's sooooo fucking sexy I really can't help myself because she just turns me on and I act on it. We get in the car and I give her the "gimme those lips" I run my hands down her body, her abdomen, her legs, and once I get to her pussy she pulls away. Well no car sex, whatever. I tell her we are going to my house to see my dog, I tell her that they are both the cutest fucking creatures I know. She has no problem with going to my house.
We get to my house and she meets the dog and we say hi to my brother and dad. We go in the basement and my brother starts cock blocking me WTF I couldn't believe what was going on!!! He is 16 and insisted he needed to finish an xbox game. I think about getting up and turning his console off, but I realize that's really harsh so I don't. She doesn't mind anyways we just chat, she won't kiss me with him in the room. She makes a comment about her not wanting my family to think she's a slut or something. My brother finally leaves.
I throw on some netflix. We get on my couch and wrestle around while I nibble on her shoulders, abdomen, butt. I grind my body on hers so she can feel my cock. My knee rubs up against her pussy. She starts to let out some lil moans of joy and breathes heavier. I put her hand on my dick and she stops, the sexuality is zapped out of her body all at once. I give her a quizzical look because I am seriously not sure what her issue is.
She interjects and tells me she's really sorry but doesn't want to do stuff like that right now. She has a serious talk about how she is trying something new and waiting longer before sex. She confines to me that she normally hooks up with guys fairly quickly and she always ends up feeling useless afterwards. I empathize with her because it tooks balls for her to tell me something like that. I go into my conviction drill and try to explain that the speed of when it goes down is completely independent of the quality of the relationship. I tell her that in my experience my best relationships with women actually were the ones that went down fast because we were acting on our true intentions. I tell her to act on her intentions, not out of fear.
I then make a comment about sex being an imporant part of the relationship and hint at the fact that withholding sex will not strengthen a relationship I can tell this hurt her a bit and it hurt me to see her a little upset so I stop. I tell her its okay and that I understand and cuddle up with her for a few minutes. She rests her head on my chest.
We cuddle up and just hang for a bit. I get up and tell her to look at my cool shot glasses. I grab her and trip her to the carpet. I take her tits out and bite on them and she enjoys it a bit, they are hard as fuck. I kiss her very gently and rub her body carefully, trying to soften everything. This actually gets her a little bit more excited, maybe I was too rough earlier. This is a what the fuck moment for her after what we talked about, but I wanted to make it very clear that I go for what I want. I try to pull her pants down and she stops me. We wrestle around some more but I have this overwheling feeling that she is not sexually charged whatsover. She enjoys hooking up until it has anything to do with my dick or her pussy then she freezes herself out and becomes a dead fish. I actually take my dick out at one point (I had to try!!) and she just kinda glances at it and is like c'mon dude no. SHIT that has NEVER happened they ALWAYS touch it . I'm not embarrassed whatsoever, I'm glad she figured out that I have a cock. I try to talk to her again about all of her concerns but we don't gain any ground. I make some funny comments about how it's gonna take at least 8 months to bang me and how she better stop giving me boners all the time.
She explains to me that the last guy she hooked up with was a good friend and that SHE decided to hook up one night and the whole fling only lasted a few weeks before ruining their friendship/relationship. The way she explains it she seems to be quite sexually liberated herself. I have a friend that was seeing her friend and I remember him making a comment last semester about how my girl was quite promiscuous. I start to understand that this chick may actually be turning over a new leaf. My guess is that after her mom died a few years back she probably filled that void with boys for a while. She has good girl game and she is extremely fuckin sexy. Actually, she is so sexy it is mindblowing that she was dressing down around me, it wasn't just the cold weather, she wanted to look cute but not like a fuck toy.
It gets late and we both have plans to go out at school with our friends so I drive her home. I keep the fun level high because I want to make it clear that i'm not actually butthurt about what went down (I truly was not, just a little dissapointed). We sing to some music. She makes an off hand comment apologizing for being dissapointing I make it clear that it is no biggie. I drop her off kiss her on the lips and forehead and leave.
I'm stuck wondering...could I have pulled this off with better game? I felt that my game was the absolute best I got. As you guys read above, my verbals, eye contact, sexual escalation was good! I've been training my drills again for a month now and I definitely don't sound like the average chump. Part of me understand where she is coming from and yet part of me is self concious that I got swindled. I just hope I didn't get her all hot and bothered for some other dude that drunkingly bangs her out at a party.
How do I continue with this girl? I am really clueless. This is the deepest connection I have ever had with a girl no doubt about that, I have discovered intimacy that I didn't know existed. She obviously wants something deeper than her previous flings but I fear that her withholding sex already ruined the whole fuckin thing. Plus, I am finally coming into my own here and I need to persue many women to become a better man. I really don't want to her hurt even if it means I don't get laid.
If anyone wants to see her profile so you can get an idea of what she's all about lemme know. I actually noticed that she appears to carry more pain in her photos then when I see her in person. Maybe I'm imagining things but it is something I see.
Honest mistakes here, one major one in particular, not bad, you're definitely making progress in the emotional shithead department (
), but yeah this was not going to work out with the way you were playing it. Anyone?
I go in and I'm crisp, clean and my vocals are fucking coming out like music. - Anonymous MW student
- Autismus Terminus Finis (Root Cause/Cure of Autism Epidemic)
- Called Off My Wedding & Other Turn Tail Signs Of The American Male
I've read this write up a few times today and I just don't understand where I went wrong. By the end of the interaction I felt thirsty for her. I sat there quite blown away and exhausted.
Thanks for the read!
The brother thing was probably where it went to shit. It sounds like you handled it poorly to the point where she wouldn't even kiss you in front of him despite all the shenanigans that went down in public at the skating place.
I'm seeing you logically trying to convince a girl to sleep w you as the glaring issue.
I think the first conviction drill to shape her beliefs about hooking up was solid but then trying it again the second time around just doesn't cut it. Too much and it dulls the effect, especially of the first one.
Just throwing shit here but maybe change her mood instead of her mind?
"Ooooh my all star figure skatty katty, you're keeping the golden pootang from me down here arent ya? It's ok, we don't have to do anything you don't want to.(Kiss her) You just got me so turned on with that adorable little outfit (kiss her lower), I can't help it. (kiss her and start rubbing her pussy). Oh? This is nice. You're being awfully greedy keeping this from me. (Take her pants off).... etc etc
idk just my thoughts
I also remember a creativity drill for these situations.
The brother thing was probably where it went to shit. It sounds like you handled it poorly to the point where she wouldn't even kiss you in front of him despite all the shenanigans that went down in public at the skating place.
Yes true but she was LMR'ing in the car beforehand too, the plan was to bang her in the car.
I'm seeing you logically trying to convince a girl to sleep w you as the glaring issue.I think the first conviction drill to shape her beliefs about hooking up was solid but then trying it again the second time around just doesn't cut it. Too much and it dulls the effect, especially of the first one.
Just throwing shit here but maybe change her mood instead of her mind?
"Ooooh my all star figure skatty katty, you're keeping the golden pootang from me down here arent ya? It's ok, we don't have to do anything you don't want to.(Kiss her) You just got me so turned on with that adorable little outfit (kiss her lower), I can't help it. (kiss her and start rubbing her pussy). Oh? This is nice. You're being awfully greedy keeping this from me. (Take her pants off).... etc etc
idk just my thoughts
Right. The second time was a lost cause.
Those verbals are great man very sexy and shaping. I was running some verbal game during the whole escalation, obviously not to that caliber though.
The next question is, how do I OWN this situation if I get her out again, what is the angle from here on out and does it cross over to my text game as well? I do not want to be predictable.
There was not enough dick prizing. The conviction drill was solid, and I mentioned some important shit. Immediately, I should hvae shifted from conviction to nonsensical dick prizing and some sexual disqualifcation.
"...all I'm sayin is act on your intentions not fear...I get it though, you couldn't handle dis magical dick tonight anyhow. He would probably cast a spell on you honey. Just listen to me for a sec kitty kat, I have no problem with your granny panties or the pepperoni nips (kiss) you're sexy just the way you are..(she playfully responds, I don't have granny panties and my nipples are great!!)... Aww yah lets see those dusty cobweb panties (take her pants off), wow I was wrong look at that sexiness (start feeling her pussy) you're so wet too. Maybe you can handle this dick, he needs to take a look for himself (whip dick out). Yeah he likes you, introduce yourself hun (sucks dick). I can't believe we are doing this tonight, but it feels too good lets just roll with it. Lemme see that cute lil pussy of yours. Oh my, she looks so excited but not sure if she is ready for my cock. Fuck it babe I'm doing it anyways (insert dick)."
Somehow this didn't get posted last night, but I can see you did a bit of self-correcting with that last post ;) Here it is from yesterday:
No it's another seriously glaring issue. It happened way before any lmr happened. In fact it's probably going to be a bit frustrated for Meow to hear but it's actually the exact opposite of the issue he's been working on, e.g. the pendulum swung too far the other way and he didn't prize himself enough or escalate properly. Mostly because all the focus of the escalation and emotional energy was on her. That's not high value masculine male. Way too lovey dovey, not high value enough and prizing. Plus yes to top it off it's unfortunate but it seems like your brother inadvertently tooled you if she was actually afraid to kiss you in front of him. That means there is a serious problem going on.
I go in and I'm crisp, clean and my vocals are fucking coming out like music. - Anonymous MW student
- Autismus Terminus Finis (Root Cause/Cure of Autism Epidemic)
- Called Off My Wedding & Other Turn Tail Signs Of The American Male
Somehow this didn't get posted last night, but I can see you did a bit of self-correcting with that last post ;) Here it is from yesterday:No it's another seriously glaring issue. It happened way before any lmr happened. In fact it's probably going to be a bit frustrated for Meow to hear but it's actually the exact opposite of the issue he's been working on, e.g. the pendulum swung too far the other way and he didn't prize himself enough or escalate properly. Mostly because all the focus of the escalation and emotional energy was on her. That's not high value masculine male. Way too lovey dovey, not high value enough and prizing. Plus yes to top it off it's unfortunate but it seems like your brother inadvertently tooled you if she was actually afraid to kiss you in front of him. That means there is a serious problem going on.
That's a total mindfuck! I've noticed that in my own experiences where if "one way" didn't work....time to go the exact opposite route lol. Its cool to see even in the writing. If you read Meow's previous reports vs this one, you can even read into the fact that with this one, his writings are softer and more lovey dovey towards the girl versus the other posts where its all like "Ya im the shit but this bitch didn't bite wtf??"
Coooool.
Yeah you nailed it Manwhore. I'm glad things went down this way though, this girl taught me A LOT about actually making an emotional connection. I'm not sure if this salvagible but I do have a plan of action of how to dial myself in correctly now.
When reegage i'm gonna joke around about her granny panties and hairy legs. I might take a chunk from what I wrote above, but save the magical dick for when I need it! NOT gonna be a dick she know's im sweet, but I'm gonna make it clear that she is a self inflicting cockblocker and that she is afraid of the awesomeness my cock has to offer...oh yeah bout time she buys ME ice cream cuz I ain't no sugar daddy.
Manwhore wrote:
Somehow this didn't get posted last night, but I can see you did a bit of self-correcting with that last post ;) Here it is from yesterday:No it's another seriously glaring issue. It happened way before any lmr happened. In fact it's probably going to be a bit frustrated for Meow to hear but it's actually the exact opposite of the issue he's been working on, e.g. the pendulum swung too far the other way and he didn't prize himself enough or escalate properly. Mostly because all the focus of the escalation and emotional energy was on her. That's not high value masculine male. Way too lovey dovey, not high value enough and prizing. Plus yes to top it off it's unfortunate but it seems like your brother inadvertently tooled you if she was actually afraid to kiss you in front of him. That means there is a serious problem going on.
That's a total mindfuck! I've noticed that in my own experiences where if "one way" didn't work....time to go the exact opposite route lol. Its cool to see even in the writing. If you read Meow's previous reports vs this one, you can even read into the fact that with this one, his writings are softer and more lovey dovey towards the girl versus the other posts where its all like "Ya im the shit but this bitch didn't bite wtf??"
Coooool.
Lol yes!
It's about a lot more than your dick. Try not to sound like a rapper when you're forming your game plan. Lol. That's very low value ideology.
I go in and I'm crisp, clean and my vocals are fucking coming out like music. - Anonymous MW student
- Autismus Terminus Finis (Root Cause/Cure of Autism Epidemic)
- Called Off My Wedding & Other Turn Tail Signs Of The American Male
Throwing an idea out here - lmk if im right or wrong
if you think about it, its almost as if the girl didn't trust your intentions and thats cause you weren't being congruent. You were trying to push this "nice" side of you out cause you tend to swing on the "mean" side more. You almost became afraid that if you went too "dick" on her you'll lose her cause of the past experiences you had. Naturally, it was taken a bit too far one way so that you tried to shut off the "prize mentality".
I hope that makes sense...
basically, balance the shit out. Congruent to both sides of you meshed into one awesome spidey feline lol
I write this cause in another forum post about Silly&Sincere texting; LMRs are for 2main reasons, 1) She isnt emotionally stimulated enough 2) She doesnt trust your intentions
All that leads to feelings of being judged. Here, you werent congruent to the full onslaught of who you were...thats why, busting out some prize verbage and sexual disqualification as a LMR busting technique would probably work..it covers up for things that should've been handled beforehand.
Throwing an idea out here - lmk if im right or wrongif you think about it, its almost as if the girl didn't trust your intentions and thats cause you weren't being congruent. You were trying to push this "nice" side of you out cause you tend to swing on the "mean" side more. You almost became afraid that if you went too "dick" on her you'll lose her cause of the past experiences you had. Naturally, it was taken a bit too far one way so that you tried to shut off the "prize mentality".
I hope that makes sense...
basically, balance the shit out. Congruent to both sides of you meshed into one awesome spidey feline lol
I write this cause in another forum post about Silly&Sincere texting; LMRs are for 2main reasons, 1) She isnt emotionally stimulated enough 2) She doesnt trust your intentions
All that leads to feelings of being judged. Here, you werent congruent to the full onslaught of who you were...thats why, busting out some prize verbage and sexual disqualification as a LMR busting technique would probably work..it covers up for things that should've been handled beforehand.
Good points. I wouldn't say I was pushing my niceness, I actually really dig this girl and she just opened me up. I was still being challenging, but defintely not enough, I was afraid to be too pushy.
It's about a lot more than your dick. Try not to sound like a rapper when you're forming your game plan. Lol. That's very low value ideology.
Okay, I won't be ghetto!
Well first off, I need to bring the conviction drill back. I was overlooking it's important for a while, and then it dawned upon me during my tinder date how masculine it really is. The conviction drill along with properly dialed emotional content completes the yin and yang of the man to woman interaction. I trained it for 20 min before my tinder date and it was a big part of my success.
In terms of my escalation, I've started to become a bit too aggressive too. I need to slow down and ENJOY. This is some weird counter intuitive dynamic but as I soften myself I actually become too animalistic and hungry. I need a kiss of sexual aloofness.
I don't want to future project anything because who knows if she even goes out with me but If I were to see her again I would be less touchy and build more sexual tension through verbals and subcoms. I would spend more time demonstrating my overall value as man. For example, find some friend in the dorm and introduce her to them. Also, I was doing this lovey dovey thing where I let her infringe on my schedule. I was suposed to be back at school 9:45-10 last time for a pregame yet I let things drag on until 10:30. Thats lame.
Yeah you nailed it Manwhore. I'm glad things went down this way though, this girl taught me A LOT about actually making an emotional connection. I'm not sure if this salvagible but I do have a plan of action of how to dial myself in correctly now.When reegage i'm gonna joke around about her granny panties and hairy legs. I might take a chunk from what I wrote above, but save the magical dick for when I need it! NOT gonna be a dick, she knows im sweet, but I'm gonna make it clear that she is afraid of the awesomeness my cock has to offer she also still owes ME ice cream.
It took me a while but I finally realize the significance of the verbal drills. They aren't just to dazzle and impress, they get shit done and shape the entire social context. I could concoct these LMR busting storylines all day long! Plus, they flow into the dirty talk effortlessly.
Im actually training these dick prizing scenarios to mentally and emotionally put myself in the right place as well. It goes so much deeper than the words haha
^ Ha! Awesome. ;)
I go in and I'm crisp, clean and my vocals are fucking coming out like music. - Anonymous MW student
- Autismus Terminus Finis (Root Cause/Cure of Autism Epidemic)
- Called Off My Wedding & Other Turn Tail Signs Of The American Male
Meow, when I read the game plan, my palms did get sweaty. lol I'm pretty sure she'll act accordingly, the second go around.
Me: ( meme of super fat ugly black cat)
Me: Hi darth vader kitty I love your hairy lil leggies
Me: You won't believe the all the crime I've been fighting. It's tough being a mix of James Bond and Einstein. <---actually send this like 10 min later cuz I read the original and was like damn that's too gay
no response :( I'll leave her alone for a while.
Yeah this isn't gonna work I realized she unfriend me on Snapchat too. I'm bummed about this but it totally pushed me to the next level and forced me to grow.
Just some finals thoughts for my own record and for anyone out there that is interested. There was not enough push-pull. I was way to lovey dovey and didn't provide a full range of emotions. Sometimes I provided some push but it was half assed because I was afraid of being to harsh (like jihad said). I forgot that I am the nucleus of the interaction. I was not present in my own body and I was pushing way too much attention on her, she did not have space to be a woman. Whether my intentions appeared incongruent or flat out needy doesn't matter much, both scenarios do not result in a masculine man that can take responsibility for whatever goes down. It's not logical, a girl can "like" a guy romantically but will not allow herself to go down the path of sexual intimacy unless the man fulfills the core principles of being a strong man.
My mistakes were honest and I didn't hurt her so no biggie.
I'll be honest man, not the best idea to re-engage with sexual disqualification...especially after the fact you two DID have a great time together. Then, you kinda went and hyped yourself up when she already knows who you are after the big emotional step you two made when you almost had sex. Didn't happen, but regardless, you two shared an awesome moment.
Lol.
It was the poor re-engagement that did you over. You need to smooth back into a situation like this but you said "Fuck this. I'm jammin my dick through this glass window." Probably why she unfriended you on snap afterwards.
Damn it Spider Man, consult with the Avengers before you act!