Should I avoid this chick completely?
This shit has been dragging on for three weeks now with this crazy chick
I'll text her things will go smooth and boom no reponse for like 12 hours. I'll look at my phone and she will end up apologizing. Then, she will rengage me talk about how she wishes we talked more and then fuckin vanish for another 12 hours LOL Keep in mind similar conversations to the ones below happened like 3 times a week
example:
Her: Sorry I was babysitting my cousins becuase my aunt is working late tonight and didnt have anyone to watch them and I was playing with them I'm really sorry :( but I like talking to you I wish we talked more
Me: omg sounds like a huge lie
Me: If you want to talk to me you owe me ice cream
Her: its not lol but oh yeah do I ? :)
Me: yeah after your bad behavior :)
Her: only if your good!:p
Me: Ill be as rude and nasty as I want :)
her: :(
Me: so when are you taking me out
Her: once you stop being mean I think about it :P
Me: oh the games you play
Me:this is like a tayor swift song
her: lolol omg I do not play games haha
Me: im gonna lock you in a closet
Me:and spank you
Me: id love if you picked me up tomorrow
Me:(8 hours later) Everything okay with you? you can respind whenever you please but this whole thing is weird
Me: wanna make sure your not locking yourself in your room and going crazy or some shit :p
Then I see her at a party. I act as if this whole conflict didn't happen. I pull a bunch of people to my house for an after party, shit gets way outta hand. She watches me run shit all night and hold down the fort. At the end of the night I invite her to stay over but she drove a car of people there. I'm like whatever no big deal I got all these friends around me still a successful night. She pulls me in for a goodnight kiss lol
I get this text at 3:15 am
Her: I had a good night thanks for inviting me.I qould have loved to stay over and cuddled you but the whole night I felt like shit :) I get really bad allergies in the fall and spring. and I had to bring them all home. So im sorry
Me: (next morning) No worries glad you came :)
Today:
Her: Happy Easter :)
Me: whats up! happy easter :)
her: not much getting reasy to go to my aunts house, hbu?
Me: Some thing, gotta drive to (city) :0
Me: im gonna eat so much lol
Her: of course you are fatty :) and damn by yourself?
Me: no not by myself I have a family you tard :)
Me: (6 hours later): Hey (name) Id love to see you tomorrow lets hangout
So at this point i'm tyring to calibrate everything a little different, seems like she has a hard time dealing with any little bit of sarcasm or harshness. I'm actually concerned that something is actually wrong with her, and maybe its not something I want to even get involved with lol Id love to bang her but its not the end of the world if I don't
The only possible scenarios I can think of that explain this odd situation is 1) she knows I ended things with my ex 2 weeks ago and feels like an after thought 2) Shes dated some fuckin losers before and I'm too cool for her LOL
3) she is afraid of getting fucked
This is an ongoing fucking investigation and i'm really just starting to lose my boner over the entire thing. Everything has always been cool as fuck in person but things just arent happening over text, I've tried to call before and she wont answer and apologize hours later. CRAZY BICHESSS
I have the persistence to keep things going im quite confident I will fuck her eventually, just making sure shes not actually fuckin psycho
Your first response back to her made me instantly think of this part from pottedflower's 3 years Learning Manwhore game post. Read the rest and it's definitely this. I mentioned before your insecurities come out and you feel this need to posture this strength to cover up your own insecurity and reflexively paint everything she does with a combatitive reaction vs playful. I'm not saying this to be a dick but to really hammer it home cause it seems this is one of your major sticking points. Assume she's doing everything from a playful frame, read her texts with a tone like she's being playful and like she's smiling wanting to see you or something instead of the default tone you probably read it in (that she has negative intent) and see if you can see it from that perspective. That will help you tremendously in snapping yourself out of these older mind frames you've been defaulting to.
The shift that happened for me was in understanding that any sort of "sarcastic//combative//ego-driven meanness" is what I now like to think of as "Poison Frame". The shift that happened for me, was understanding that everything coming out of girls' mouths is funny//cute//playful
There's a masculine softness in the way that I interact with women now that didn't exist before. "Masculine Softness", in the sense of tackling a girl to the ground, but ensuring that it all happens in a domminanet fashion, and where I'm making sure the girl doesn't get hurt.
This is her being playful, from your response it doesn't seem you actually go it. Read this reply in your mind but with her being all smiles really wanting to see you and have fun with you
Her: its not lol but oh yeah do I ? :)
Same with this
Her: only if your good!:p
And it seems she wasn't sure about it, till you came back with this
Me: oh the games you play
You just kept the punishment thread going too long for it to be funny, it's more like wow dude you're fucking serious about this shit dude's gonna tie her up in a closet. That's the vibe I got when I read this.
her: lolol omg I do not play games haha
Me: im gonna lock you in a closet
Me: and spank you
Me: id love if you picked me up tomorrow
Don't beat yourself up for it either. The way I deal with my negativity when I notice it is identify it as the next level I'm becoming aware of that I need to work on. For me learning not to be harsh on myself helped me a lot and helped free me up to be nicer to girls. When I used to beat myself up it sometimes felt like okay it's either me or the girl that's going to get beat up so if it's not me then I have to be harsh to her and if I'm not harsh to her then it's my fault and I'm gonna have to beat myself up over it. But then I realized wait why does someone need to get beat up for this? Can't it just be a learning opportunity?
Hope that helps.
I'm actually concerned that something is actually wrong with her, and maybe its not something I want to even get involved with lol Id love to bang her but its not the end of the world if I don't
I don't think this is it at all. I think this is more some mental gymnastics you're doing to avoid thinking it was your fault somehow and painting her to be crazy because that's easier than what you would do which is be harsh on yourself and beat yourself up over it. Or I'm projecting but I recognize this mental thought pattern, which I used to do a lot when I would be harsh on myself.
Your first response back to her made me instantly think of this part from pottedflower's 3 years Learning Manwhore game post. Read the rest and it's definitely this. I mentioned before your insecurities come out and you feel this need to posture this strength to cover up your own insecurity and reflexively paint everything she does with a combatitive reaction vs playful. I'm not saying this to be a dick but to really hammer it home cause it seems this is one of your major sticking points. Assume she's doing everything from a playful frame, read her texts with a tone like she's being playful and like she's smiling wanting to see you or something instead of the default tone you probably read it in (that she has negative intent) and see if you can see it from that perspective. That will help you tremendously in snapping yourself out of these older mind frames you've been defaulting to.The shift that happened for me was in understanding that any sort of "sarcastic//combative//ego-driven meanness" is what I now like to think of as "Poison Frame". The shift that happened for me, was understanding that everything coming out of girls' mouths is funny//cute//playful
There's a masculine softness in the way that I interact with women now that didn't exist before. "Masculine Softness", in the sense of tackling a girl to the ground, but ensuring that it all happens in a domminanet fashion, and where I'm making sure the girl doesn't get hurt.
This is her being playful, from your response it doesn't seem you actually go it. Read this reply in your mind but with her being all smiles really wanting to see you and have fun with you
Her: its not lol but oh yeah do I ? :)
Same with this
Her: only if your good!:p
And it seems she wasn't sure about it, till you came back with this
Me: oh the games you play
You just kept the punishment thread going too long for it to be funny, it's more like wow dude you're fucking serious about this shit dude's gonna tie her up in a closet. That's the vibe I got when I read this.
her: lolol omg I do not play games haha
Me: im gonna lock you in a closet
Me: and spank you
Me: id love if you picked me up tomorrow
Don't beat yourself up for it either. The way I deal with my negativity when I notice it is identify it as the next level I'm becoming aware of that I need to work on. For me learning not to be harsh on myself helped me a lot and helped free me up to be nicer to girls. When I used to beat myself up it sometimes felt like okay it's either me or the girl that's going to get beat up so if it's not me then I have to be harsh to her and if I'm not harsh to her then it's my fault and I'm gonna have to beat myself up over it. But then I realized wait why does someone need to get beat up for this? Can't it just be a learning opportunity?
Hope that helps.
I definitely get what your saying and I do think my response was too serious and I know this girl may have daddy issues so that's a big no no. However, I tried to keep things more casual and friendly and she's still acting strange. Yet she still renenages me when I don't text her wtf
Your first response back to her made me instantly think of this part from pottedflower's 3 years Learning Manwhore game post. Read the rest and it's definitely this. I mentioned before your insecurities come out and you feel this need to posture this strength to cover up your own insecurity and reflexively paint everything she does with a combatitive reaction vs playful. I'm not saying this to be a dick but to really hammer it home cause it seems this is one of your major sticking points. Assume she's doing everything from a playful frame, read her texts with a tone like she's being playful and like she's smiling wanting to see you or something instead of the default tone you probably read it in (that she has negative intent) and see if you can see it from that perspective. That will help you tremendously in snapping yourself out of these older mind frames you've been defaulting to.The shift that happened for me was in understanding that any sort of "sarcastic//combative//ego-driven meanness" is what I now like to think of as "Poison Frame". The shift that happened for me, was understanding that everything coming out of girls' mouths is funny//cute//playful
There's a masculine softness in the way that I interact with women now that didn't exist before. "Masculine Softness", in the sense of tackling a girl to the ground, but ensuring that it all happens in a domminanet fashion, and where I'm making sure the girl doesn't get hurt.
This is her being playful, from your response it doesn't seem you actually go it. Read this reply in your mind but with her being all smiles really wanting to see you and have fun with you
Her: its not lol but oh yeah do I ? :)
Same with this
Her: only if your good!:p
And it seems she wasn't sure about it, till you came back with this
Me: oh the games you play
You just kept the punishment thread going too long for it to be funny, it's more like wow dude you're fucking serious about this shit dude's gonna tie her up in a closet. That's the vibe I got when I read this.
her: lolol omg I do not play games haha
Me: im gonna lock you in a closet
Me: and spank you
Me: id love if you picked me up tomorrow
Don't beat yourself up for it either. The way I deal with my negativity when I notice it is identify it as the next level I'm becoming aware of that I need to work on. For me learning not to be harsh on myself helped me a lot and helped free me up to be nicer to girls. When I used to beat myself up it sometimes felt like okay it's either me or the girl that's going to get beat up so if it's not me then I have to be harsh to her and if I'm not harsh to her then it's my fault and I'm gonna have to beat myself up over it. But then I realized wait why does someone need to get beat up for this? Can't it just be a learning opportunity?
Hope that helps.
I definitely get what your saying and I do think my response was too serious and I know this girl may have daddy issues so that's a big no no. However, I tried to keep things more casual and friendly and she's still acting strange. Yet she still renenages me when I don't text her wtf
Maybe there's more you didn't include but I'm reading what you wrote and I don't see anything that says crazy bitch though.
Crazy bitch is like she's all over you then pushes you off her and tells you to get the fuck off her and then jumps all over you when you walk away then tries to fuck your friend at the party and then tells you she loves you while crying and starting a scene at a party.
I just see a meek girl who likes you, is probably young (under 19) and isn't super confident so you get what appears like mixed signals. But this is my take on it maybe MW or others see it differently.
Maybe there's more you didn't include but I'm reading what you wrote and I don't see anything that says crazy bitch though. Crazy bitch is like she's all over you then pushes you off her and tells you to get the fuck off her and then jumps all over you when you walk away then tries to fuck your friend at the party and then tells you she loves you while crying and starting a scene at a party. I just see a meek girl who likes you, is probably young (under 19) and isn't super confident so you get what appears like mixed signals. But this is my take on it maybe MW or others see it differently.
Regardless of what's going on I appreciate the insight my dude
Her: Hey sorry I just saw this but maybe tomorrow?
C'mon really you just saw me invite you out after 24 hrs? I saw her active on social media she even sent me a snapchat lol its not like she was passed out drunk in a hole somewhere. Whats really going on here?
Yea she wants to meet up with you but is probably just scared your actually going to be as nasty and rude as you please. She sounds smitten, I agree with most of the above. Soften it up a little and be a bit more accommodating. The Taylor swift thing was funny
Yea she wants to meet up with you but is probably just scared your actually going to be as nasty and rude as you please. She sounds smitten, I agree with most of the above. Soften it up a little and be a bit more accommodating. The Taylor swift thing was funny
Omg how did I fail to say this earlier: I've met up with this chick before and things went smooth as fuck. Everytime I see this chick in person (3 times) we always end up making out, but things aren't logistically right to take it further wether she doesn't stay the night or its some crowded basement party. Maybe she's just not that invested because we didn't bang soon enough? I'm just so confused with whats goin down with her over text. This is why I was being so harsh lol
I kept it casual and said "you sure how does 7ish sound" and guess what no response :/
http://manwhore.org/forum/content/i-feel-overwhelming-high-value-frame-b...
Same chick. Not trying to trip over her, just not gettting whats goin down. Hittin up other ladies too but damn im just fascinated
Okay just read this
http://manwhore.org/howtodatea10/
Sounds pretty damn familiar, I think she was expecting to just bang the first time we chilled or wanted to. It was my limiting believe that she wouldn't be down that fucked shit up. She's def a high value kinda girl that what I was attempting to explain.
Okay gotta reponse gonna bang her...phewwww
Your texting is really all over the map. You're not being smooth you're trying to find ANY opportunity to try to swat her and it's a bit rough. You should be trying to craft a love affair with a chick over text, not trying to bring down the axe on her any time she even remotely challenges your frame, lol. Plus it just seems so weird that you're being slightly spiteful at points then using the word "love" when inviting her out. Derp
Patrick.Bateman and I posted a lot of convos and techniques recently that had to do with sorta "punishing" a girl or at least emotionally compelling her to take action, when she was being stubborn and nothing else was working. You guys are letting this get out of control
I go in and I'm crisp, clean and my vocals are fucking coming out like music. - Anonymous MW student
- Autismus Terminus Finis (Root Cause/Cure of Autism Epidemic)
- Called Off My Wedding & Other Turn Tail Signs Of The American Male
Yea she wants to meet up with you but is probably just scared your actually going to be as nasty and rude as you please. She sounds smitten, I agree with most of the above. Soften it up a little and be a bit more accommodating. The Taylor swift thing was funny
Fucking nailed it. Geezez Meow
I go in and I'm crisp, clean and my vocals are fucking coming out like music. - Anonymous MW student
- Autismus Terminus Finis (Root Cause/Cure of Autism Epidemic)
- Called Off My Wedding & Other Turn Tail Signs Of The American Male
HOLY FUCKIN TITS this was one huge mess. Turns out that my ex-girlfriend has mutual friends with this girl and they were talking shit saying I was playing her! So yeah, I was too harsh and it made her feel like shit on top of her already feeling like shit. She flaked on me two nights in a row this week lol. I finally got her on the phone turned things a lil more lover boy style and hopefully Ill see her tonight.
Banged her! :)
Wasn't the best fuck lol, but I busted some major lmr. Left her saying, "I cant believe I just did that".
Def gonna write up a report
Never dealt with a girl like that. Even after the sex she was still busting my balls! Game never ends
LOL!! Can't wait to read..
I go in and I'm crisp, clean and my vocals are fucking coming out like music. - Anonymous MW student
- Autismus Terminus Finis (Root Cause/Cure of Autism Epidemic)
- Called Off My Wedding & Other Turn Tail Signs Of The American Male