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So I met this girl last week away while she was standing w/her friends and talking to some chode. Extended my hand and ripped her away from her friends and chode.... I talked to her for about 10-15 minutes and got her #. Right now I'm trying to get her out. Wonder what I could do better to get the meet-up. The times are fucked up (they come out GMT for some reason even though I'm EST +5 hour difference)

Me: 06/30/2012 15:47:15 It's hot outside because the earth revolves around me
-Katalyst

Her: 06/30/2012 15:50:31 Katalyst the lawyer? Nice quote.

Me: 06/30/2012 15:56:17 Not a lawyer - i studied economics...Last night i saved u from some chode

Me: 06/30/2012 15:57:04 I actually hate lawyers

Her: 06/30/2012 15:59:18 Hmmm send me a picture I do not remember

Her: 06/30/2012 16:05:52 Btw thank you for saving me.

Me: 06/30/2012 16:11:29 Photo requests must be made in person.

Her: 06/30/2012 16:16:32 That defeats the purpose.

Me: 06/30/2012 16:25:14 Ok fair enough - will do...but ladies first

Her: 06/30/2012 16:43:41 I tried and it failed

Her: 06/30/2012 16:43:57 You must not have an iphone?

Me: 06/30/2012 16:51:13 I have an iPhone - you have imessage off tho - try sending again babe


Her:
06/30/2012 17:17:10 (sends pic)

Her: 06/30/2012 17:18:55 I didn't even know iMessage existed

Me: 06/30/2012 17:23:59 Tan and quite the fit babe (posh British accent)

Me: 06/30/2012 17:26:32 I'm laughing cuz all the photos in my phone of me are so naughty

Her: 06/30/2012 17:28:55 Naughty?

Me: 06/30/2012 17:39:26 (I send her a pic) Lol nice and respectful.

Me: 06/30/2012 17:45:16 they just came n fixed my tub...now I'm sitting here looking extra handsome licking ice cream..wut r u up to

Her: 06/30/2012 17:53:07 I remember you!

Her: 06/30/2012 17:53:38 I'm unpacking just moved into a new apt.
Me: 06/30/2012 18:02:56 You mentioned w.10th n Hudson - is that your new spot?

Me: 06/30/2012 18:03:38 I'm in hipsterville Brooklyn - getting a new roomie tomorrow

Her: 06/30/2012 18:50:24 Yea that's right good memory

Me: 06/30/2012 19:24:45 come over and play Mario kart 64. I'm not that good but I know I can beat you because we all know you can't drive for shit because you lived in Mayfair.

Me: 07/03/2012 03:08:43 Just finished some amazing tacos....whoa ..how r u

Her: 07/03/2012 17:22:41 Working now. When u text me i was at dinner

Her: 07/03/2012 17:22:41 Sorry for the no response 


Me: 07/03/2012 17:45:39 I nerd it out here in times square - where do you work

Her: 07/03/2012 17:56:25 XYZ in LES


Me: 07/03/2012 17:57:29 I might check it out - I'm really into that stuff


Me: 07/03/2012 17:58:09 Just let me know when that Black girl w/the XYZ name isn't workin

Her: 07/03/2012 18:01:28 Hahaha (Girls name)


Me: 07/03/2012 18:15:03 So tomorrow I'm headed to jersey 2 chill w/my crazy ass fam..u?


Her: 07/03/2012 18:17:10 Are you from there?


Her: 07/03/2012 18:17:30 I will prob have to work.




Me: 07/03/2012 18:22:32 Yup..I grew up near XYZ....jeeeez what kind of stuff do they have u doing


Her: 07/03/2012 18:28:30

Everything. I am a business analyst/XYZ/XYZ 

Her: 07/03/2012 18:28:30 And much more. Where do u work?

Me: 07/03/2012 18:31:41 That's actually really good experience for you I work at XYZ

Her: 07/04/2012 05:23:47 That's coo!

Her: 07/04/2012 05:23:47 That's cool

Me: 07/05/2012 19:48:56 Holy shit. Can barely keep my eyes open after yesterday...how was ur 4th

Her: 07/05/2012 19:51:45 It was chill I just say in the sun all day. I got wasted on Tuesday night so took it easy yesterday. 

Me: 07/05/2012 19:58:24 Yah I'm going to leave work early and take a nap

Me: 07/05/2012 20:00:00 Fyi you're going down tonight..I'm gonna kick your ass in karaoke 
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Re: Tan and fit Italian girl
@Katalyst:

She's clearly downsky. Just in the sense that you sent her a pic and all and she's responding well and double texting, wtvr...

Idk exact texts but just keep tryin for the casual meetups... Like she probably was really at dinner last time, so it just wasn't gonna work out, ya dig?

Also- maybe get her to a bar first and then cruise to your place?
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Re: Tan and fit Italian girl
@buddhagames:

*updated* forgot to copy and paste some texts
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@Katalyst:

Hmm, personally, prob wouldn't have gone for karate.. cause like.. idk.. that's kinda weird? Unless you actually are doin karate at your place, then it's fucking awesome.

But yeah, chill out for a bit and at this point, you gotta just wait for a response (there will be one most likely) if she bails again, like last time, hit her with voicemail attack tomorrow. She'll respond to that for sure (You have a super chill voice on the phone- nohomo)
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Re: Tan and fit Italian girl
@buddhagames:

no not karate - karaoke...im quirky but not that weird mann..lol power back on btw
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@Katalyst:

hahahaha, yeah I'm an idiot. Totally read that as "karate" holy shit... okay, that's MUCH more normal.

lmao, holy shit the worst part about that is when the ac turns off
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Re: Tan and fit Italian girl
@buddhagames:

lmao KA-RA-TE

i wish you did say that now.
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@Katalyst:
Ok just segue this into a meetup. Future project a little bit you're not handling logistics correctly and then going for a spontaneous meetup that's the wrong combination how does that even make sense. Figure out what actually works for her then make a plan.
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@Katalyst:

I just can't seem to get this one out for the rape lol. Have something w/co-workers for Friday happy hour. Will invite her out since it's the next time i'm free to do something social.

Me: 07/07/2012 22:51:38 Been reorganizing apt w/new roomie....she's fuckin hilarious...what u up to

Her: 07/07/2012 22:54:27 Nice where is she from

Me: 07/07/2012 22:56:59 I think she moved from LES...I forget...hows ur roomie

Her: 07/07/2012 22:59:26 I don't have a roommate

Me: 07/07/2012 23:23:02 I'm jealous ;)

Me: 07/07/2012 23:24:13 Having trouble putting this freakin table together.....come help me!!!!

Her: 07/08/2012 00:03:36 You can hire someone?

Me: 07/08/2012 00:11:44 No need :) #FUCKYEAH (send pic of "assembled table")

Her: 07/08/2012 00:12:11 Nice!

Me: 07/08/2012 00:17:04 Prolly gonna hang out w/my mates tonight...how bout u

Her: 07/08/2012 00:17:33 Sleep im so tired and have strep throat :(

Me: 07/08/2012 00:19:39 go out and buy some airborne

Her: 07/08/2012 00:21:02 Yea maybe I will I don't feel like moving right now. Do u go out in Brooklyn or here?
Me: 07/08/2012 00:24:24 You should get it...it's really good for you babe

Her: 07/08/2012 00:24:31 Ok 

Me: 07/08/2012 00:25:54 Really depends...I usually go out downtown tho

Me: 07/09/2012 21:05:19 Mexican food for the win!...how are you feelin pumpkin

Her: 07/09/2012 21:23:30 Good just working!

Me: 07/09/2012 21:29:17 Same here....what are u up to tonight 

Me: 07/09/2012 22:03:24 ?

Her: 07/09/2012 22:06:19 Hey sorry! I'm trying to do this excel shit it is making me want to shoot myself

Her: 07/09/2012 22:06:19 I'm going to a movie and dinner with my friend I haven't seen in awhile

Me: 07/09/2012 22:07:30 Cool what movie..I wanna go see magic mike

Her: 07/09/2012 22:15:42 I haven't heard of that

Her: 07/09/2012 22:15:42 Prob Ted
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@Katalyst:

Ok so i might have fucked up w/the reading my book comment....but point is i'm having trouble getting this chick out...she's responsive...usually texts me back immediately but i see a pattern of when i ask for the meet-up she gets all "flaky and non-responsive" unless i push for it.

Me: Just getting home from soccer practice...how was your day pumpkin

Her: Fun and yours?

Me: Nothing crazy....why what did you do 

Her: I went to work and joined a gym and now I'm reading my book.

Me: You never told me you were a writer

(The following day)

Me: Hey pumpkin - what are you doin tomorrow at 6? 

Me: Co-workers and i are throwing an after-work party in midtown..roll thru 
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@Katalyst:

Good talk man.

This is just a small thing, but in that last text, may have been more awesome to just say, "I'm throwin an after-work party for my office in midtown.. roll thru"

Okay, but also- you're date set ups haven't changed... You're not running, "proper" meetup game. Sometimes, it works where you can just randomly suggest a meetup and she'll be down... but, ESPECIALLY in this case, that isn't the case. You said yourself, "You're having issues"...

Put the time in to BUILD IT UP... instead of just randomly suggesting something- work with her a bit...

Like, start out with something, like asking her what she likes to do, or be like, "You ever shoot a gun?" .. "no"... "Oh shit... we're DOING this"...

Then from there go with a mini escalation-ladder type shit... being flexible with her schedule..

"What's your schedule look like this week, beb?" ... "blah blah" ... "Cool.. what are your hours lookin like"... "blah blah" oh awesome.. "Lets' do xx on xx at xxtime so that you won't be tired for work"
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@buddhagames:

yea good talk for sure.

yea re-reading this makes me realize yea i got to be diligent w/this one and be wayyy more creative and playful.......i haven't figured out a way to really vibe over text in a fun and playful manner.

but fuck it practice makes perfect.
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@Katalyst: Yo this girl is keen dude. Like youre half assing the meet up and only trying to figure out what shes up to for the night. Be flexible, ask what her schedules like. Did she seem kinda prude / conservative btw?
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Aequitas;821.6569;11 wrote:
@Katalyst: Yo this girl is keen dude. Like youre half assing the meet up and only trying to figure out what shes up to for the night. Be flexible, ask what her schedules like. Did she seem kinda prude / conservative btw?

Agreed.
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Re: Tan and fit Italian girl
Manwhore;821.6570;5 wrote:
Aequitas;821.6569;11 wrote:
@Katalyst: Yo this girl is keen dude. Like youre half assing the meet up and only trying to figure out what shes up to for the night. Be flexible, ask what her schedules like. Did she seem kinda prude / conservative btw?

Agreed.



Yeah I kinda know. Yea she seems more conservative (works a shit ton of hours at her job and is pretty career-oriented) and slightly has lower self-esteem. The way i approached her was pretty bold and she kept asking me whether I liked her or not.......So yea you can say she's the prude/conservative type.

Ur right about me being half-assed about shit......I've admittedly been a lazy fucker w/text game and that's why I haven't been getting to go on dates like i should be - even after being halfway thru Manwhore's text game academy. Like I'll be texting while I'm working and kinda drop the ball because I feel this is stupid. I need to respect the process and realize that I just have to be more creative and more responsive while texting.

No more half-assing/making excuses about having no time........ I watched this Tony Robbins clip today and it smacked the shit out of me

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dXr_J8gOc4I

Someone w/my experience and how many #s I'm getting I should at the very LEAST should be getting at least one date a week. no excuses..

I personally need to work on my creative vibing....and fuck it if i have nothing creative to say - be like fuck it! and realize at the very least that "chode-versation" will still get me the date....
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Text convo continued..So to get hyper-analytical i just go narcissist when I don't know what to text. I mentioned my party because I didn't want to ask her about work...although looking back I could have.

In retrospect, maybe the best option was to talk about how excited i am about the party and then say something ridiculous i'll have you hold the hand while i cut my cake or something stupid... No worries - I'll do something like that next time.

Me: 07/14/2012 21:14:16 At the grocery store w/roomie getting eye fucked by milfs...

Her: 07/15/2012 20:10:18 Weird. 

Her: 07/15/2012 20:10:18 Take any home?

Me: 07/16/2012 04:25:00 Still beat from last night..i should have skipped soccer this morning

Me: 07/16/2012 04:25:22 How was ur wknd

Her: 07/16/2012 04:41:33 Terrible I'm still working. 

Me: 07/16/2012 04:47:02 Unlucky babe...

Me: 07/16/2012 04:47:13 next weekend I'm throwing a massive party for my bday...u better come! work today
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@Katalyst:

and the faggotry continues...i can't seem to get this girl out...

Me: next weekend I'm throwing a massive party for my bday...u better come!
Her:Nice how old are you turning?
Me: 25...I'm really excited...it's my 1st bday party in America
Her: Where are you from again?
Me: Naeeemaahhhh
Me: Lol. I'm Ghanaian but was raised here. Spent my summers in London
Her: Oh yes that is correct
Me: I should punish u for such bad memory! I'm taking ur teddy bear from u now
Her: I really have one
Me: I have a brand new teddy bear for u...
Me: Old homeless lady gave it to me...when are u going to pick it up?
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@Katalyst:

lol yo... you're just getting distracted...

Look at the text convo I have entitled, "This girl didn't give me the TIME OF DAY...."

I haven't got the meet yet, but you can kinda see how, that text convo, I just KEPT STEERING the convo towards what I was trying to do...

It's kinda like the "persistence" you have when you're in-field... except via text.
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@buddhagames:

You're totally right the no.1 goal in text game is to get the meetup......yeah i was reading ur thread " solid example of how to get a meet-up" today and you're just straight ballin ba-bay. I should be ballin w/my text game as well but i'm just not doing so at the moment. That shit was really good.
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@Katalyst:

Ok so i want your feedback on if this sounds like a solid meet-up for her comin to my bday get-together tonight which is going to be like the only time i'm massively "socially proofed" ever in my life :) .....

Would you guys follow-up in this case to make sure her tan ass comes out for party times? Would you call?

Want your feedback for sure.

Me: I keep losing money! Wtf
Me: My bday party is this Saturday night in midtown from 10 to 1....are u coming?
Me: It's at this place called xyz.....just checked out the room I'm renting out...it's MASSIVE!
Her: Haha do you just love karaoke? :)
Me: Yea I love it...it's fuckin fun
Her: If I am not working Sunday I will be there. It doesn't look like I will be so that is positive (for me at least). 
Me: Sent her YouTube link of me killin at karaoke

Her: Hahahahaha is that you?! 
Me: ;)
Me: About to go pick out beer for my party
Me: If it was only me it'd all be corona....what else do you think I should get
Her: I always do corona ;) 
Her: I like Stella 
Her: But it's pricey here for some reason
Me: Yea I was thinkin those two as well...I'm having open bar from 10 to 11..so all the Stella u can drink!
Me: Have to admit...im thinkin bout how much fun 2morrow will be
Me: I've also decided I'll sing a Prince song to you  2morrow
Me: Only if you hold up paper napkins that say "we love you Katalyst"
Her: Haha hmm your friends would be very curious who some random chick holding that napkin up could be
Me: No worries you won't be random
Her: Why did you invite other people you have only met once?
Me: No ur actually the only one...
Me: Although a couple of people I've never met will come via my friends
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@Katalyst:

This is a girl i've been trying to get out for the past couple of weeks to no avail. Gonna keep going. I was really setting her up as my date for my bday get-together and she flaked. totally broke my heart :(

but yea i'm getting kind of sick of her bs. If you notice there's a recurring pattern where she's very engaged and then when it comes time to meet-up she goes all silent and dead on me - guess she just enjoys the attention or i don't have enough value.. maybe i just start to kick it to her honestly - i could always ditch her but a part of me wants to take her and just rail her like no other.

Me: 07/21/2012 21:52:55 sup pumpkin - I'm olderrr

Me: 07/21/2012 22:36:40 Let's meet up @930 at gagopa karaoke b4 the chaos of my party starts at 10

Me: 07/22/2012 00:23:45 I've got about 40 people showing up don't worry no one will know you are my groupie and secretly in live with me

Me: 07/22/2012 00:23:46 love*

Her: 07/22/2012 05:46:35 I'm sorry, my little brother (he is 21) is checking into rehab for heroin tomorrow and I felt it was more important to talk to him on the phone tonight before he leaves. I hope you are having a great time and maybe we can meet for a drink after work to celebrate. 

Me: 07/24/2012 02:55:46 Unlucky....party was pretty EPIC..

Me: 07/24/2012 02:55:55 Is everything ok babe

Her: 07/25/2012 04:14:19 Hmm not really I feel fucking terrible for my parents

Her: 07/25/2012 04:14:19 But that is life hopefully he will take his time there seriously

Her: 07/25/2012 04:14:19 Happy you had a fun Bday

Me: 07/25/2012 04:42:30 Finally home from soccer...does ur bro live in Dallas or LDN

Me: 07/25/2012 04:43:52 Ya it was great... my homie finally sent me all the pics - they look awesome

Her: 07/25/2012 05:15:11 My bro lives in Colorado

Me: 07/25/2012 05:17:37 O I thought ur fam was from there

Me: 07/25/2012 05:19:49 what's ur schedule like from thu to sat babe

Me: 07/26/2012 19:23:28 Times running out babygirl....

Her: 07/26/2012 23:17:58 I'm flying back co

I just left her a voicemail like on Saturday - texting will be re-engaged sometime today or tomorrow
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@Katalyst:

Continued after going kind of cold turkey.

Me: 08/02/12 1:56 PM Hello darling. How are you. Hope your brother is doing well.
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Re: Tan and fit Italian girl
K let it go you might get a response later. If you don't just do regular reengagement game
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@Manwhore: bad move inviting her to your bday. Shes keen but youre freaking her out with the pressure that comes with going to a bday. Usually serious girls / close friends go to your bday, not some random bimbo. Reopen, get her out. At least thats for the bday. Use her as more of a secondary option since shes so flakey. Like double book.
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@Aequitas:

Thanks for the advice and Manwhore let me know about this a couple of weeks ago. It was literally my first bday party and i usually don't go to these kind of things so from my perspective I didn't realize it was so much pressure.

At the end of the day, if she eventually meets up w/me that would be cool but fuck this chick - there are plenty other girls that I can potentially bring out if i can get my text game act together.
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@Katalyst:

Just re-opened this.

Times are GMT but whatever.

Me: 08/24/2012 03:15:47 I'm luring girls to my apartment w/candy. Which do you prefer skittles or M&Ms
Her: 08/24/2012 21:53:16 Neither 
Her: 08/24/2012 21:53:16 I like champagne, yachts and strawberries dipped in Belgian chocolate.
Me: 08/24/2012 22:32:02 No worries babe...I've got it all in my fridge and my tub 
Me: 08/24/2012 22:32:33 Yachts? That's such a daddy's girl thing to say
Her: 08/24/2012 22:53:53 Haha 
Me: 08/24/2012 23:05:37 Headed back to BK after dropping my little sister at uni
Me: 08/24/2012 23:05:50 What are you up to
Me: 08/26/2012 02:48:04 Stop playing with your toy yacht for a change. I will show you how to be a hot analyst.
Me: 08/26/2012 02:52:50 Come to XYZ - friend is celebrating a bday party
Her: 08/26/2012 02:54:53 My mom is in town
Me: 08/26/2012 02:56:43 Bring her out. Moms love to dance after dinner
Her: 08/26/2012 03:05:50 No she's the long walk type
Me: 08/26/2012 03:06:42 Oh you ALWAYS have an answer hmm! Lol ;)
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You had a pretty hot vibe going, somewhat kicked it in the face with that last text but it's still on I'm sure. Think you're starting to get somewhere hawt.

This texting is good. It's solid. Play it out a little bit longer, instead of calling her out, TAKE her energy and do something with it.
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Katalyst;821.8108;33 wrote:
@Katalyst:

Her: 08/24/2012 21:53:16 I like champagne, yachts and strawberries dipped in Belgian chocolate.
Me: 08/24/2012 22:32:02 No worries babe...I've got it all in my fridge and my tub 

Derp.

Your response to that was SO WEAK compared to what you could have done with that. Also, this text doesn't "roll off the tongue".. comes across kinda clumsy.
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@Katalyst:
I liked the fridge and tub thing that was pretty damn funny
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@Manwhore:

fair enough.

i stand coorected lol
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Re: Tan and fit Italian girl
Honestly though.. I read that and I was like.. oh snap
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@Manwhore:

Hmm... well, in that case, prob shouldn't have texted immediately after and let her respond to THAT text.

Idk, doesn't seem like THAT text even hit her- she was more responding to the text he sent right after.

I'm learning here too, so this was more of a question than anything else.
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Hmm I agreed with BG... Then agreed with manwhore about it being sweet and now after reading that last message I am confused..

Cause I think it was a sweet text kinda being like "yeah I got you girl" but spiked with humour to show he isn't a bitch. But then yeah her response was weak and just Fizzled out.


I am starting to get a lot of those messages. Like I say something funny and she is just like "lol yeah that's true." some of them are basic formulas like a haha or lol followed by agreeing with the funniness of my text, or adding something insubstantial to it. Or those texts like Alex's true sign of attraction/arousal? Quiet and attentive. She just laughs and agrees and doesn't really add/take away from the vibe to see what you'll do next and fear of the good emotions leaving. Thoughts?

And in more practical terms in this thread kata could've either responded to her "haha" text by building in his own joke, or awknowledgeing her laugh and then LEADING into what are you up to? Seems like he just went straight into rapport and left the joke and haha hanging, killing the vibe.

What could he have done better? Or was what he was doing fine and she just didn't reply?
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These are very good questions icewahine and to be honest I have no clue - I actually hope Manwhore answers this one.

My thinking at the time after sending the fridge and tub text was "yes this girl thinks i'm a pussy so i added in that daddy's girl line just to create some PUSH...... . I was trying to just bullet out texts and build some kind of rapport with this girl because at the moment that's my weakness as I'm not really able to carry a fluent conversation via text. I literally have to spend a good amount on each text so every additional text is some kind of bonus for me. I know you definitely don't get more points for sending more texts but FOR ME that shit is a win. You guys don't understand how many interactions flake, or they respond to one text and then I just DIE afterwards.... so sadly every text message at the moment I receive is some kind of win.

My thinking right after the "haha" line from her was ok there's some form of attraction and she seems kinda keen, let me build rapport while figuring out her logistics to get the meet-up. This is why after the "haha" text i sent the dropping my lil sis at uni line then what are you up to... I forgot to mention that I sent her a picture of me wearing shades along with the "dropping my lil sis at school"

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@buddhagames:

Hmm I agreed with BG... Then agreed with manwhore about it being sweet and now after reading that last message I am confused..

Cause I think it was a sweet text kinda being like "yeah I got you girl" but spiked with humour to show he isn't a bitch. But then yeah her response was weak and just Fizzled out.


I am starting to get a lot of those messages. Like I say something funny and she is just like "lol yeah that's true." some of them are basic formulas like a haha or lol followed by agreeing with the funniness of my text, or adding something insubstantial to it. Or those texts like Alex's true sign of attraction/arousal? Quiet and attentive. She just laughs and agrees and doesn't really add/take away from the vibe to see what you'll do next and fear of the good emotions leaving. Thoughts?

And in more practical terms in this thread kata could've either responded to her "haha" text by building in his own joke, or awknowledgeing her laugh and then LEADING into what are you up to? Seems like he just went straight into rapport and left the joke and haha hanging, killing the vibe.

What could he have done better? Or was what he was doing fine and she just didn't reply?
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@Katalyst:

Yeah for a bit I thought I had some good texting going on. But recently ive been on a streak where the girls dont even reply unless its some canned manwhore line that i send.

I really dont know whats going on. I could comment on your texting and say i thought it was fine, other than the fact that youre sending more msgs than she is, so by default u are more invested, but im sitting here now thinking I should just keep my mouth completely shut and not give anyone texting advice. MW says im too emotional, which is probably true. But when I sit somewhere thinking for 20 min of a text to send, and think its decent, and then MW comes and tells me its a "nailbiter", I am just at a complete loss. Because in those instances im not following my emotions for 20 min, rather objectiveley thinking of a good text to send. But theyre not working
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@Alex123:

My texting is still HAWT

Just sayin...
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@Alex123:

Agreed I wish I didn't want it more than her but I won't lie to myself that's my current state of ego/mind. Rambling/spewing out a lot of shit to get my point across is currently the way I communicate so a lot of times I struggle with turning even what I want to say from 3 texts into 2 texts. I just had a Skype session w/Manwhore where we literally worked on making my shit minimal so a month from now I should be way better. I was a hard-case newbie (no one ever believes me - i mean for fuck sake I hadn't kissed a girl before I start gaming and literally lost my virginity in the backseat of my car and then wrote a LR about it 3 years ago") so
yea.


Alex there's ways to overcome your emotions. I still have emotional pain-body periods from time to time - for instance last night I was going through that shit hard as a motherfucker after writing up my Field Reports but Manwhore's given me some exercises in the Skype coaching sessions to overcome it. I was bitter and pissed at myself and anyone else I could blame for my troubles but then I did a couple of exercises and I was like ok i'm thankful for this that and that, and then I read 2 chapters of Power of Habit by Charles Duhigg and he talked about "grit". You should read up on that character trait - you're going to need it to really reach that next level.

Like not to shine moonbeams up your ass, but attachment from outcome is truly truly necessary. Like I'm starting to realize this more than ever and I'm going through one of the greatest slumps I've gone through in the past 8-9 months, but certain aspects of my "game" are better than ever..... A part of me is really like yo "some vagina out there just validate me" but honestly this game is a game of variables so you can only rely on your action on your barometer to how you're doing.

you have a lot of potential from what Manwhore has told me so just don't give up and trust the process. Lol look at me typing out 3 paragraphs just to get my point across ;)

PS. It's funny how we talk about emotions here. This girl actually caused me fair amount of negative emotions after she flaked on me for my bday party with Manwhore explaining why she flaked on me. I actually want to thank her with my dick some day because I was so fuckin butt-hurt the day after my bday yo. O mann you have no idea. I was so butthurt over this one.
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@Katalyst:

And the saga continues huh...I am so determined to get this girl out yo.

Me: 08/27/2012 23:02:55 hey beb, how's the day treating you 

Her: 08/28/2012 03:38:13 Good I'm moving again on thursday

Her: 08/28/2012 03:38:13 So stressful

Her: 08/28/2012 03:38:13 And my mom decided to stay till Friday ..... Lots of time together! ;)

Me: 08/28/2012 04:04:38 Aww baby do you want me to bring you chocolate strawberries. I will take care of you

My Thoughts: After re-reading this 3 times, now I'm wondering whether I should have been all lovey-dovey. On second thought, probably not. I was going to ask "where you moving to " but i wanted to play with emotions rather than logic so I went with what I knew on how to respond emotionally while pushing for the meetup. At the time it felt a bit aspebergers of me to push for the meetup, but I went for it anyhow.

I think I should have asked where she moved so I could actually be empathetic and figure out where her new place is.
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@Katalyst:
I haven't read your guys' responses but one thing I will say is it's not a good idea to bring up the whole "daddy's girl" thing unnecessarily. It definitely breeds bad behavior. Plus the way he did it was reactive and almost encouraged more of the same
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@icewahine:

PS ha! found the answer to your question on Alex123's thread actually: http://manwhore.org/forum/content/surrender-leopard . Yup quiet and attentive. Yea it makes sense - this girl at my job I've been texting when I randomly run into her always is like "wtf I saw your text but i don't even know how to respond to them". So quiet and attentive and my guess is to lead from there.
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@Katalyst:

I appreciate you taking the time to write your response a couple of posts up.

Yeah i get in an emotional cycle when what I do doesn't work and it actually just makes me more emotional and probably my texting gets worse. Honestly thats probably why Im not having success at coming up with good texts right now, im just not in an emotionally good headspace.

Its like for the past week ive been surrounded by guys who have either a) been doing this for years or b) been going out literally EVERY day this past summer- and im coming from a place where i was working at a summercamp all summer and barely even went out once a week...

I totally feel you man Im coming from a place of COMPLETE scarcity, so its like when I get a fish to bite I probably "panic" like you said trying to make it work. Such a paradox man. I guess the only way to overcome is to approach massively and collect massive amounts of #s.

It just sucks tho- & I know you're going thru the same thing-- when I try my VERY best to get these girls responding and wanting to hang out and it just doesnt go anywhere

Like for the amount of thought and time I'm putting into this its very frustrating to say the least. THAT's why i'm wondering if there's some missing piece of the puzzle- something that I just can't grasp right now

As I'm writing this right now I guess its a similar problem i have in in-person game. Im not good at adding a calibrated "push". My version of "push" in field tends to be too much or just comes out weird like im actively trying to push just to balance it out, rather than coming off natural and authentic like buddha's subtle pushes i see in some of his texts. Probably my texts are suffering from the same shit so i end up making them all pull since I suck at push. Its weird I see it being done but am having lots of trouble replicating it for some reason
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@Katalyst:

Yh, i didn't like the last message bro, it just didn't feel right - she's not ill or anything, so the situation didn't call for that type of text.

Maybe something playful would've worked just to spike the emotions, "Shittt, i hope it aint in the ghetto! I'll need a bulletproof vest if I wanted to bring u some chocolate dipped strawberries ;b"
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@Alex123:

yea like i posted earlier on one of your posts 2 weeks ago - reference that R.Kelly post on struggle or whatever. I don't exactly live in SCARCITY, but i sort of do. Like I'm not thinking i can't get a girl but I don't have any solid options at the moment as I build the stable. Weird phenomenon. It's like my brain just sort of wants to stay in the hard-case newbie lifestyle. Where I go home, go on a 3 mile run, take a power nap and then bang out some work. I could go more into this but I have to go to bang out another hour of "ME TIME" stuff before I go to sleep.

Just keep at it and don't panic. I think your main problem is you compare yourselves to other people too much. That will fuck with you. Just focus on your path, this shit is not a team sport, celebrate the small wins whatever they may be, and one day a year from now you'll go HOLY SHIT - I'M AWESOME. When I read my FR journal from a year ago when I was just getting back into game after a 2 year layoff to get my shit together after college or even look at pictures of myself, I'm like damn - the eyes are more focused now, the belief is a lot stronger, and i have way more quality and confidence. So dude point is - enjoy the journey. It will come.

The adversity makes the glory feels so fuckin good that I can't even explain this properly in words. Just remember you don't have to do this - it is a tough frustrating process and yes this shit is a privilege. You're surrounded by chodes every day so always remind yourself that you could just quit and live their little pathetic reality if you're not up to the task or slog thru the motherfuckin dirt like the champion that you are.

Just keeping taking action on improving yourself every day and you're bound to feel good.
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@Gogo:

I love this text. I read this earlier at work and was like damnn thats the perfect text.

Agreed that shit didn't feel right either when I sent it but I just went with it because it's something I got from Manwhore but I applied it out of context. I didn't want to ask any rapport questions either but I should have done so. No biggie.
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@Katalyst:

The saga continues.....times in GMT for some reason. Fuck DiskAid.

Her: 08/28/2012 16:38:32 Nope I have my mom taking care of me

Her: 08/28/2012 16:38:32 We are going to ikea!


I was thinking "having your mom push you around in a shopping cart does not qualify as being taken cared of"

But now 24 hours would have passed by the time i send this one out. hmm ill sleep on this one.
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@Katalyst:
Dude that's a kick ASS text. Send that shit
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Re: Tan and fit Italian girl
@Manwhore:

Am I just being a bitch, I feel like I almost ALWAYS add a winky face or a lmao to that kind of text to soften it up...

I feel like I'm just being a bitch though.
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@icewahine:

PS ha! found the answer to your question on Alex123's thread actually: http://manwhore.org/forum/content/surrender-leopard . Yup quiet and attentive. Yea it makes sense - this girl at my job I've been texting when I randomly run into her always is like "wtf I saw your text but i don't even know how to respond to them". So quiet and attentive and my guess is to lead from there.



Sweeeeettt! Thanks so much. Two weeks ago I hit up a show and it was rammed with youngins. Most places I go to around my parts are my age or older. So it's rare I get numbers from 18 year olds. Like this one girl just graduated high school and that mw's post in that other thread summed it up perfect. I text her something awesome and once she replied "hahaha" then ten minutes later goes "I've spent the last few minutes thinking of a reply but I've got nothing lol" haha this usually isn't an issue with socially "normal" older girls but these young ones don't know what hit them.


I guess I should add something related to this thread... I got nothing...
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@Katalyst:

forum is acting weird. won't let me update more than two lines of text convo.
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@Katalyst:

*EDITED

Me: 08/29/2012 17:27:23 Having your mom push you around in a shopping cart does not qualify as being taken cared of
Her: 08/29/2012 17:28:58 Sends me an I'm embarrassed emoticon. (It took a co-worker to figure this one out..Have never seen that emoticon before)
Me: 08/29/2012 20:12:28 Where are you moving to pumpkin
Her: 08/30/2012 17:44:57 East village!!! Just moved in

Her: 08/30/2012 17:44:57 All the Mexicans from the street carried my bags up

Her: 08/30/2012 17:44:57 Thank god I'm a chick

Me: 08/30/2012 17:53:34 Cool. Are you still living on your own

Her: 08/30/2012 18:02:08 Yes of course

Her: 08/30/2012 18:02:08 My bedroom

Me: 08/30/2012 18:11:20 Just finished presenting this pre-XYZ deck to everyone. Thank god!!!!

Her: 08/30/2012 18:11:32 Wow nice how did it go?

Me: 08/30/2012 18:14:57 Good. I got everyone super pumped up and they were all cracking up

Her: 08/30/2012 18:33:02 Awesome! Good job

Some light rapport today - on Fridday I'll either invite her out tomorrow when my co-workers are having an open bar OR just play it cool and schedule something for Sunday/Monday.

Definite goal is to get her out this weekend. Gotta stay FOCUSED and non-needy.

i'll probably reinitiate tomorrow afternoon with the "hey about to rob an ice cream truck...need someone to play lookout" to sort of feel it out w/her.
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@Katalyst:

You're too all or nothing, man.

You're like either SUPER funny and cocky and shitting around... OR .... you're like SUPER rapport man...

Mix in awesomeness to your rapport... like that line she dropped about her bedroom- there's room to make something happen there... like you don't have to do anything CRAZY.... just had some fun to your rapport.
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