Techniques for restoring presence
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I find this to be the toughest aspect of presence. When you feel fucking amazing, like your glowing, and then the state is lost. Then it it tends to become a chase to restore peace, a future projection, a desire. When presence finally appears, your like fuck how can I keep this around.
Sometimes sitting down and "trying" to meditate yourself back to harmony doesn't work. The meditation becomes a means to an end.
Anybody have any tricks snap back into presence on command?
Consider you may be looking at this from the wrong perspective. People show up in your life to show you what triggers, pain, emotional imprinting you haven't integrated/accepted yet. Because what you resist persists and until it's brought into the light of consciousness it's hard to transform this, so really it's a gift. Begin to notice the triggers and thoughts, though from different circumstances, they often register similar thoughts and feelings. Presence Process explains it a lot better.
As for techniques there's Sedona Method, Release technique, Faster EFT to name a few.
Okay I think that makes sense. I've definitely been noticing that the actions I resist the most in other people are the actions I resist the most about myself too.
More specifically I experience major brain fog sometimes. I overwhelm myself with future plans, projections, work, and time constraints. Some of my worst times are when i'm completely alone actually. If that still applies to what your talking about...
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Okay I think that makes sense. I've definitely been noticing that the actions I resist the most in other people are the actions I resist the most about myself too.More specifically I experience major brain fog sometimes. I overwhelm myself with future plans, projections, work, and time constraints. Some of my worst times are when i'm completely alone actually. If that still applies to what your talking about...
Gonna purchase presence process rn
Yeah he actually explains what the the fog experience is about. Basically when you're not present you're in a trance like sleep state, that's why it's called a spiritual awakening when you snap out of it. As you become more present you may experience brain fog or sleepiness because you're becoming conscious of it vs being spaced out and unaware. In my experience you can clear out that feeling of fogginess, it's just another layer of energy. PM me and I can show you some stuff if you want, I'm all about transmuting limiting emotions/energy and love showing people how to do it too.
Meow you trying to shut your brain off and/or clear any tension or negative feelings in your mind/body? What happens. Or what exactly are you looking for here. Trying to halt the descent back into mindthink, or keep the crystal clarity/presence going..
I go in and I'm crisp, clean and my vocals are fucking coming out like music. - Anonymous MW student
- Autismus Terminus Finis (Root Cause/Cure of Autism Epidemic)
- Called Off My Wedding & Other Turn Tail Signs Of The American Male
When I try to force presence it is my physical and mental exhaustion that hold me back. Most often my underlying feeling is just pure exhaustion.
Im trying to keep the presence going, because it is such a big shift me. I can really feel the difference througout my body. When I slide back into mental chatter mode I feel like fucking hell and it gains momentum like crazy.
My current thinking is that I spend too much time focusing my awareness on uncomfortable feelings in the body which fuels dysfunction, and instead need to return my attention to my other senses more often. This may give me a more continious presence experience.
Hm so you're constantly feeling physical discomfort? And this distracts you from presence?
I go in and I'm crisp, clean and my vocals are fucking coming out like music. - Anonymous MW student
- Autismus Terminus Finis (Root Cause/Cure of Autism Epidemic)
- Called Off My Wedding & Other Turn Tail Signs Of The American Male
Yah thats my biggest obstacle as of now
Ok have you experienced presence as the complete lack of past or future before. Any sensation including pain simply being it's most minute, broken down sensation(s)?
I go in and I'm crisp, clean and my vocals are fucking coming out like music. - Anonymous MW student
- Autismus Terminus Finis (Root Cause/Cure of Autism Epidemic)
- Called Off My Wedding & Other Turn Tail Signs Of The American Male
Do you know the cause of the physical discomfort?
Ok have you experienced presence as the complete lack of past or future before. Any sensation including pain simply being it's most minute, broken down sensation(s)?
Yes, physical pain is almost non-existent when i'm present. When I lose my presence (busy day, lots of work, things dont go right) I start to feel neck pain and overall fatigue and it catapults me into a lower state of conciousness. This state is sometimes very hard to get out of, to restore mental and physical peace.
If I hold some solid presence the whole day (which happens like 1-2 times a week) body and mind feels great
Do you know the cause of the physical discomfort?
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Autoimmune chronic pain type stuff runs in my family. I have all the external stuff figured out (diet, supplementation, etc) and now discovering the mental aspect of it all.
Presence Process is awesome so far for anyone that is exploring similar things right now check it out
So you're having a hard time coming into presence, and maintaining it.. is it "hard"? Does it take effort to maintain and/or feels strenuous trying to maintain it at first?
I go in and I'm crisp, clean and my vocals are fucking coming out like music. - Anonymous MW student
- Autismus Terminus Finis (Root Cause/Cure of Autism Epidemic)
- Called Off My Wedding & Other Turn Tail Signs Of The American Male
Yes it is hard to center myself again when I fall into a lower state especially because it is almost always accompanied by physical pain and fatigue. Sometimes I can focus my attention on the pain and it subsides, but other times I become too identified with it all together. Sometimes I get dissapointed that I am not feeling present, which is more unconciousness. Often it takes a few days before I feel peaceful again, then it is not very difficult to maintain because I "remember" the way i'm supposed to feel.
From what I've been reading these painful spots need to be further "integrated" because I do not conciously explore them enough.
I had you on Tolle every day years ago- don't think you took it seriously enough. It's about IMMERSION, not some "logical" understanding of it. You should be able to handle this I just think your personal sticking points interfered and you never got the real scoop on it.
I go in and I'm crisp, clean and my vocals are fucking coming out like music. - Anonymous MW student
- Autismus Terminus Finis (Root Cause/Cure of Autism Epidemic)
- Called Off My Wedding & Other Turn Tail Signs Of The American Male
Yah I wasn't even close to grasping it years ago. I'd still consider myself a beginner :)
I want to accelerate the process and make presence my primary state of being but thats not worth much.
I am already here and will progress by being here right now
It might be he doesn't have the motivation for it yet or isn't aware of how he's getting hooked back onto whatever is arising.
The cool thing is that the book is designed to do both by explaining the logical cause effect relationships and what to watch out for. It also explains how logical understanding doesn't transform anything and ends the book with a 10 week process designed to immerse you in presence while watching out for common hooks.
"Presence" is something you train for. Not something that you just buy at a McDonald's. Attempting to see meditating as "just a means to an end" seems to me to be ego or lazy rationale for simply not doing it.
Eckhart Tolle's Practicing the Power of Now, for at least an hour a day, should absolutely get you there. He's stripping away layers of approval-seeking and egoic mindsets and behaviors.
I go in and I'm crisp, clean and my vocals are fucking coming out like music. - Anonymous MW student
- Autismus Terminus Finis (Root Cause/Cure of Autism Epidemic)
- Called Off My Wedding & Other Turn Tail Signs Of The American Male
yah I'm reading Presence Process doing the breathing exercises and listening to Tolle as much as possible right now
Cool concept from Presence Process is continous breathing without pauses. The over hyperoxygenation part of it reminds me of the Wim Hof method, guess its all connected :)