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Here's a girl who I have great physical rapport with. When I see her out I just manhandle her and she loves it.  I've been texting with her for awhile, she seems nervous and apprehensive.shes confided in me before that she gets severe anxiety.

 

me (several days ago): I'm watching some new stupid 3 musketeers show. I've always hated the three dipshit musketeers, why would I think this would be any different? 

 

Her: (yesterday. 6pm) thanks for the Sharing

 

are you feeling more positive tonight?

 

me: I feel amazing and totally positive! Killing it at work, finding time to study, reading, meditation, snowboard, gym. Besides the 3 fuckface musketeers everything's perperfect 

 

her: okay then. Good enough.. 5htp couldn't hurt. About the chocolate bar of the same name? Does that also disappoint? What is the lesson here?

 

Me: the lesson is I'll eat a 3 musketeers chocolate bar, but the 3 musketeers can eat me

 

me: enough about them I'll only get upset again, then I'll be eating 5htps like m&ms 

 

me 8pm: how's the battle? (She's working on a Reno)

 

me 9:30pm: ...

 

her 9am this morn: hey I sent one out but it failed. Maybe I'm not winning...I'll resend now. Meant to respond last night between 8 and 9:30...

 

her: clearly not winning 

 

me 2pm: you back in town this wknd?

 

her: yes, back

 

me: how's the kidnap room coming along? (Callback)

 

her: overhaul complete. Show ready

me: nice work! What's your upcoming schedule like?

me half hour later: even if its just for tea or something

me 3 hrs later:  .___.

me 1hr later: had an epic day of snowboarding today despite these two old ladies terrorizing the hill. Not even joking. I'm off to shoot pool with a friend then going to jam nite at the inn

her: very ambitious socializing. Are you always so busy?

me: it comes and goes. There's a lot I want to be doing right now so I'm leaning into it a bit more than usual

her: sounds like a midlife crisis and I get to be on the to do list

me: no. It's just having ambitions in life. You're a girl that I find very sexy who I also feel I share amazing chemistry with. I thought you might like to hang out, if not no big deal

her: flattering thanks. I enjoy our exchanges. You are fabulously quick witted. I'm not at a place to explore this further right now. I'll keep your number tho if its just the same to you

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her: sounds like a midlife

her: sounds like a midlife crisis and I get to be on the to do list

I think that text was BS. I think you would've been justified getting a little pissed about that

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Walk away from it man. Those

Walk away from it man. Those girls with "anxiety disorders" are trouble. That's my advice.

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Ok holmes this one deserves a

Ok holmes this one deserves a bit of a more complicated breakdown. But in a nutshell what happened is you displayed emotional "vulnerability" in the wrong ways. 

There's something strange to a girl about a guy that "admits" to living on an emotional roller coaster. It's a very feminine thing. I don't think you realized what you were doing. 

"I feel amazing and totally positive! Killing it at work, finding time to study.." you're starting to border on WAY too much. But then you go with "enough about them I'll only get upset again, then I'll be eating 5htps like m&ms". Decidedly feminine 

Then out of the blue you go into figuring out her schedule.. and then just kill it with the "even if its just for tea or something". Not only did you try to excuse/justify your interest, you also forgot to include an apostrophe. 

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Just met with a girl from

Just met with a girl from pof, yanked her home and was fucking her within an hour of meeting her lol. 

Ok interesting. Too feminine. My thoughts with this girl was to tone down the masculinity because when I see her in person I'm completely dominant and owning her body. I felt it was the reason she's been reluctant to meet with me. Like she knows she's going to get fucked good and hard if she agrees to meet up with me so I guess my mind in its infinite wisdom decided to make myself vulnerable thinking it would put her fear and anxiety at ease.

any salvaging this?

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And you're right. I didn't

And you're right. I didn't realize what I was doing, I see it now. Even without the exclamation mark it would have been way better. It seems punctuation might be part of the problem lol

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Wow. You're fucking right.

Wow. You're fucking right. Gawdamn, texting is a tight game. 

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So.. No fix?

So.. No fix?

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I'd like to fuck this girl,

I'd like to fuck this girl, and I think it's fair to say she wants it. When I see her in person she knows who the boss is. It seems a shame to let that fizzle out over some shitty punctuation

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Oh.

Oh.

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Ugh even your takeaways are

Ugh even your takeaways are weak as fuck

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Well I'm not looking for a

Well I'm not looking for a fixer, and I don't see you as one either. Don't mind the fact I tell you stuff I just like to do it. It's all on lock no need to worry beautiful girl

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That last sentence could

That last sentence could probably be tweaked but I'm on my motorcycle on the roof of bellagio I need to get to work..

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Lol I miss this

Lol I miss this

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The lesson wasn't lost on me.

The lesson wasn't lost on me. In fact text you recommended hit me like a punch in the chest. I had no idea how bad this was until you pointed it out lol. Thanks for the feedback and for shooting me straight (as always).

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Me 11am: Well I'm not looking

Me 11am: Well I'm not looking for a fixer, and I don't see you as one either. Don't mind the fact that I tell you stuff I just like to do it. It's all handled, no need to worry gorgeous

her 4:20: Awesome. How was jam night? Did you adopt an instrument also in your quest for knowledge and power?

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Open to any feedback, its

Open to any feedback, its clear I've been shitting the bed thus far

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Oh yeah I got some stellar

Oh yeah I got some stellar bandcamp stories. Ones to make you blush

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LOL! I had zero hope for this

LOL! I had zero hope for this one Jack. But Manwhore's just saved you with that. That's awesome!

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me 5pm: oh yeah I got some

me 5pm: oh yeah I got some stellar bandcamp stories. Ones to make you blush

her 7:45: its true I'm easy to excite ;)
her: who doesn't love a good story?!

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I initially was trying to

I initially was trying to make plans to get this girl over to my house. She seemed receptive for awhile and it felt like we were close to making plans. Now I'm rethinking the meetup, I'm thinking meeting her in town to play pool? Guessing its time to start drawing a line towards the meet. Maybe a feeler like 

make me a nice sandwich and I might tell you a couple ;)

?

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If you can beat me at a game

If you can beat me at a game of pool maybe I'll tell you a couple;) 

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One time I had a duet with a

One time I had a duet with a percussionist girl so I took her to the beach for the a private practice session. I was just pounding away and she told me to stop because she couldn't feel her legs 'cuz she'd been sitting in a weird position for so long. 

Lol. I wouldn't send that I was just exploring possibilities. 

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Don't make it such an obvious

Don't make it such an obvious ploy but yes you're right ,now you want to set something up. 

"I have damn good stories. Sometimes I make them up on the spot and people don't know 'cuz.. well, most people are retarded. So are you coming over or what 'cuz my fingers are starting to cramp" 

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One time on mushrooms I

One time on mushrooms I taught a turtle how to play the flute. I figured out that I could leave him in my cabin and everyone would think I was practicing while I snuck into the woods with the strings section girls

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I'll roll with yours tomorrow

I'll roll with yours tomorrow lol

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Me: I have damn good stories.

Me: I have damn good stories. Sometimes I make them up on the spot and people don't know 'cuz.. well, most people are retarded. So are you coming over or what 'cuz my fingers are starting to cramp

her: Not coming over.finger strength is a really nice asset. Just saying

her: RetarTed.very PC

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Me: I have damn good stories.

Double post

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I feel like there's a theme

I feel like there's a theme underlining all this. This might be obvious to some of you but I guess I'm really becoming clear on it now. I see her, grab her, I've pulled her tits out at parties, kissed her, double make out with her and her friend etc. this is all great but there's been no real push. She has been basically topped up with validation since the beginning. Funny to notice that right at the exact moment MW takes over the texts she immediately starts throwing in subtle little flirts and sexual teases. Ie. "easily excited;)" or "finger strength is a nice asset" like she's fishing to get me to chase again.

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Just for laughs and science..

Just for laughs and science.. What if I tried a tease and a push

PC strength is a really nice asset, also you might be a bit too high strung. Just saying

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You should check out my PC

You should check out my PC strength ;) 

you're too high strung anyway, we'd never get along

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This girl needs a strong

This girl needs a strong push. Strip her validation away leave her breathless and feeling on the outside looking in 

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You should check out my PC

You should check out my PC strength ;)

Too bad you won't get a chance.I like a strong, feminine, independent girl who knows what she wants. You're a child

too strong? Reactive? Lose the last line?

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It's too obvious. It would be

It's too obvious. It would be seen as reactive/butthurt. Something more subtle yet severe. 

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You should check out my PC

You should check out my PC strength..

.. but I like a girl who is strong, sexy and knows what she wants ;)

I like the PC line if you hadn't noticed lol. Am I getting warmer?

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Give me some info on this

Give me some info on this girl. You do one chemical stripping of this girl she'll be back in your arms begging for it next time you see her. 

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I've been running into her at

I've been running into her at parties over the last year or so. Into fitness, hard body, I'd give her a hard 9. She was in the picture a little when you and i were working together but she gave my girl the 'no' feeling so we moved on at the time. I kept her number. 

 

The first party I saw her at I grabbed her and pulled her in like a caveman, gave her a little stare down, leaned in to kiss her but didn't. She's the one that kind of got flustered at the mud wrestling party last summer. I was pulling her tits out, I walked up and overtly stole her from that jerk that was bullying people at the party. She had her hands all over me and was telling me how manly I was.

 

I see her out once in awhile, she has told me she gets social anxiety. I told her to listen to Tolle lol. It seems she does renos for rentals (her own). I think maybe she's partners with her dad but not sure.  When I see her out she submits physically, pretty much no resistance at all. Maybe tries to challenge me a bit verbally, but I've always been able to dominate her which seems to make her more attracted.

I wouldn't say she has self esteem issues, but maybe isn't of a strong enough frame to take THAT strong a push without getting closed off. 

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Also, almost every time I see

Also, almost every time I see her she's with this bitch friend of hers, she seems to rely on this girl a bit socially.

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Jack.Ruby wrote: I wouldn't

Jack.Ruby wrote:
I wouldn't say she has self esteem issues, but maybe isn't of a strong enough frame to take THAT strong a push without getting closed off. 

Right. Sensitive area here 

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Yeah, it's a shame. I do

Yeah, it's a shame. I do really like her and don't at all want to fuck with her in a way that's hurtful. I just wish I could get through this barrier between us and have a real interaction. The only times I ever see her its a party or a club

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So what did you send her. and

So what did you send her.

and I don't think there's an issue with pushing these girls hard because at the end of the day, you should leave her better than you found her. 

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Too bad you'll never get to

Too bad you'll never get to experience my PC strength. 

Just don't see this going anywhere

its almost like, well never mind...

in rapid succession. #DRAMA lol

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My PC strength is a really

My PC strength is a really nice asset

And I wouldn't say you're retarted, just differently abled

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Manwhore wrote: Jack.Ruby

Manwhore wrote:
Jack.Ruby wrote:
I wouldn't say she has self esteem issues, but maybe isn't of a strong enough frame to take THAT strong a push without getting closed off. 

Right. Sensitive area here 

quote=Manwhore]Yeah I would send it. Either it will force her to open up because youv'e rightfully stripped her of feminine validation (in cases like this it's ok), or she will just find somewhere to curl up into a ball and die. Either one would be fine

Just wondering what determines whether to go Don Juan or Don Quixote

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Manwhore wrote: Jack.Ruby

Manwhore wrote:
Jack.Ruby wrote:
I wouldn't say she has self esteem issues, but maybe isn't of a strong enough frame to take THAT strong a push without getting closed off. 

Right. Sensitive area here 

Manwhore wrote:
Yeah I would send it. Either it will force her to open up because youv'e rightfully stripped her of feminine validation (in cases like this it's ok), or she will just find somewhere to curl up into a ball and die. Either one would be fine

Just wondering what determines whether to go Don Juan or Don Quixote

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I'm making a joke of it but

I'm making a joke of it but its actually a serious question.  My thoughts on impass girl was that if I could swipe the validation in a quick clean move it would actually bring peace to the interaction and ultimately make the girl more comfortable. I'm not trying to be a sociopath here, in the end I want what's best for the girl. I'd say I have a near perfect record with the girls I've been with (them feeling good about it afterwards.) thoughts here?

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I don't know if I elaborated



I don't know if I elaborated to this before but I see nothing wrong with acting like a dick or being a slight asshole, if you truly know you can make the girl glad she came out to meet you later.

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There's nothing sociopathic

There's nothing sociopathic about setting things right. Especially if you've unknowingly made mistakes like you did. Only reason I stopped responding to this is 'cuz you were off doing your own thing with it, which is fine you obviously have to start doing that.. but as sensitive as this is, I was just waiting for the dust to settle.

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K good. I thought for a

K good. I thought for a second you thought I had full blown aids. 

I've got a lot going on. Single again, off booze, smoking, caffeine, sugar (any stimulants). Snowboarding, working, studying/reading, at the gym like a rhino. Daily meditation to stay grounded. Basically a strict healthy diet and good habits only.

the net result is I obviously have a lot of energy to channel lol. It can be a lot to handle. I'm guessing after a couple of weeks adjustment I'll be fully grounded in the new routine

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Yeah it's crazy how much a

Yeah it's crazy how much a lot of what we take into our body is designed to pacify ourselves. 

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Jack.Ruby wrote: Me: I have

Jack.Ruby wrote:
Me: I have damn good stories. Sometimes I make them up on the spot and people don't know 'cuz.. well, most people are retarded. So are you coming over or what 'cuz my fingers are starting to cramp

her: Not coming over.finger strength is a really nice asset. Just saying

her: RetarTed.very PC

me: my PC strength is a really nice asset

me: and I wouldn't say you're retarted. just differently abled

Several days go by and I decide to change my approach a bit. Kind of fucking around actually. There are some subtleties of this convo that might not be immediately apparent not knowing this girl. She can be shy, anxious and nervous. Knowing her, fact that she is re engaging me, and looking at the time of day, is unlike her.

 

Wed 7:45am (lol)

 

me: There's something I want to tell you

 

her: Fine. I'm ready. Please don't be pregnant 

 

me: LOL

 

me: No, nevermind it's fine.

 

her: You've moved on from the recorder to master the oboe?!

 

me: nailed it

 

her: Congrats.super talented hands and mouth

 

her: What's troubling you young Padawan?

 

me: Why is it like this with us?

 

her 8:30am: I've got the magic in me?!

 

I didn't respond to this at all. The following evening (last night) at around 7pm she phones me. I missed her call and called her back, no answer. So

 

me: Sorry, I never answer when I'm practicing my oboe

 

A couple of hours go by.. 9:15pm:

 

me: That's stupid.. Sorry

 

me: I'm just a little out of my element

 

her: tell me about it.I'm a moron.I was tread climbing Mount Kilimanjaro at the rec centre when you called.can't multi task.now trying to hang stupid bath accessories. The towel bar is particularly perplexing.my brain is embarrassing me

 

I don't reply.. Then at midnight:

 

her: are you still an insomniac?

 

Again I don't reply.

 

Today at 11 

 

me: Theres an art walk in town tonight at 7ish. Up for a walk later?

 

her: sorry.date night with my wife. Then x birthday party