Third Date is the Charm

Yeeeeeaa! The legend is back!!

Hey Mpgamer55 what was that post I put up detailing certain lmr tactics? 

Hey man, nice to see you're posting again. I learned a lot from your stuff. Thanks.

Your post reminds me of how my dealings with LMR are changing.

I used to think that LMR was there to be destroyed on the spot. Like if a girl started pulling LMR, I would think that I need to bust through that shit on the same night and if I don't I will lose her / I will be a chode.

Then I'd proceed to do all kinds of LMR tactics I learned from the pickup community.

Lately as I have become relatively more abundant in my dating life, I go about LMR a little differently. I'm not desperate to fuck her THAT night and am happy to let her do her resistance thing because I know I have built up enough attraction for her to want to see me again

and ultimately it is a matter of time before she lowers those barriers herself. So in cases where I think she will see me again, I will often not push it to the max to get laid -- which as you guys know paradoxically makes it easier to bust LMR.

This does not mean I back out, or pussy out of escalating when the chance is open -- cos more often than not, I will push it pretty damn hard. Lots of nights where I kept at it, recycling, repeating, waiting for hours, prizing my body etc. before she finally let her guard down.

It just means that I am happy to wait if  that makes her more emotionally/physically comfortable to open up to me. In my experience, these cases actually led to awesome sex because there was less insecurity/ thoughts of judgment   when we finally went at it.

Of course different girls and different contexts call for different LMR tactics (for instance in Vegas, you probably have to bust that shit right there) but allowing yourself to wait, I think, can actually be a good long-term LMR tactic. Kinda like how a lion waits for that moment when her prey is weakest.

@Manwhore, which one? You've had several. You probably mean An Advanced Introduction to Sexual Escalation: Endgame Mindset and Tactics http://manwhore.org/forum/howtofuckagirl

No the one with the "emotional logics"

That's a wonderful post Kierkedashian ^. That's exactly right you don't need to push it so hardcore the first night if you can clearly see a woman just wants a little bit of time with you first before she allows herself to give in to it. A mature independent women already knows she can give in to sexual chemistry. But why not wait a bit and go for something more as well? 

And invariably yes this leads to amazing experiences.

BUT.. it's very fucking advanced for both sexes. To be able as a man to discern this you have to really know women well, be able to feel and recognize the emotions going on, respond accordingly. And it's got to be natural because that's the whole fucking point. 

BUT.. logistics is a killer. Even these women recognize this simple hard fact and if they're visiting town or think it unlikely to be able to see you again they'll go with the fling. Especially when you make it so natural for them ;) 

And you can use "emotional logics" to supersede/override her resistances many MANY times. But with the girls you see that they recognize the sexual chemistry happening, in fact are enjoying it, you can definitely hold off. Why not? You should be slowing down to enjoy everything more intricately as well. 

Now it's true, some guys WILL fall off and not pursue if a girl doesn't put out very quickly, sometimes these are ones the girl was actually interested in. But she can clearly understand in hindsight it probably wouldn't have been as fulfilling an experience as she may have hoped. BUT.. if a man's smart enough, he won't blow her off, because even if they don't go any deeper together emotionally or what not, the woman will more than likely sleep with him.. because the experience of it is still worthy enough for her. Screw HD and technocolor. Intimacy is hot, and real as fuck. 

Now in defense of our side, to be honest a LOT of women ARE emotionally and sexually underdeveloped. Now I'm going to assume PROBABLY because most men are dumbasses and so yeah it's probably our fault for not being cacapable of more most of the time, because in some ways they definitely mature faster than men do. But regardless most women are just not ready for intimacy with a man even though they constantly post on Facebook how much they're looking for a boyfriend and "men are dogs" etc., subtly proclaiming it's not her fault she's single when in actuality she's probably a try-hard dumb ass. Doesn't matter how good looking they are. Most women have a retarded idea of what's "cool". Lmao. I say that with affection. I still can't help being attracted to these kinds of women at times. So yeah I'll seduce the FUCK out of them. Spread them all over the place and penetrate them till they can't walk or talk right. The kind of experiences and sexual intimacy we create together is still absolutely fucking awesome and I explore all sorts of things with these women. And I'm still honing my craft, honing my skills, becoming a better leader a greater man. 

Last note: Not sure the need for the predator rhetoric at the end there lol. With certain women I've just found it's "better" for them, and that's good enough for me. And this definitely represented "a" path I needed to take for my own self-growth. Also there's no guarantee anything will come of these experiences. You can have the best of intentions with a girl and it still goes to absolute shit. Which is not cool sometimes, lol. And notwithstanding the fact that some of the best relationships of my life came from a same night scenario. 

Yeah pushing it too far is just going to lead to anti-slut defense anyway. Had that happen a few times a couple years ago before I knew anything. Did you mean LMR Series Part III: Emotional Dominance...

http://www.rsdnation.com/node/165192

Nope. That's a good one tho lol 

Money, money, money.

Loving this shit. Those articles are fucking great as well.

Welcome back, PB. 

i love it when two dudes help each other explode, but is 3-4 rounds of training a thing? like mw takes you to super sayain in your first few months. then you go back in a year and he takes you to super sayain 2 over another few months? then... eventually.. golden oozaru...

Shiki I LOVE YOU.

And i didn't even know doing more than 1 ROUND of training was a thing....

There's a level beyond....that I.....the PRINCE OF ALL WHORES didn't know of....

AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

*fart

Lol! Yeah we did three rounds. We called them seasons haha. His first and second rounds were fantastic. I thought our third season was not quite up to par as we seemed to have different obectives in mind.

He didn't "need" three rounds, he just wanted it, lool. Remember he's loaded so throwing down on more training was cake for him.

As far as achieving massive success during my training, blowing the top off someone's reality during, etc, I've got an 80% success rate. That's multiple lays, if not a shit ton, massive increases in charisma and communication skills, personal levels of happiness increased, and the ability to move freely through the social world with empowerment. That is definitely the norm. Most guys, especially ones that have taken training with another dating company before, are completely blown away by what we're capable of achieving during training.  Even if I get a guy that's a lot more difficult to work with, e.g. a hardcase, he still experiences a big jump in his charisma and communication skills. This curriculum and training protocol represents the most direct straight-line path from newb with no skills or knowledge with women, to being able to successfully meet and sleep with multiple women a week if that's what you desire. You two alumni in this thread know what I'm talking about. If you do your drills every day, they're done in private for those that don't know, and go out at least twice a week and do some approaches, you'll get the crazy results, guaranteed. 

But yeah every once in awhile I get a guy that simply refuses to do his drills, won't go out, and stubbornly holds onto bullshit beliefs that do him harm. 

As a comparison an Rsd bootcamp or similar program has about a 20% success rate, e.g. the guy got laid, had epiphanies and experienced permanent transformation. And to be honest I think 20% is probably a little too high. But newbs and "hardcases" have zero chance of coming away from a bootcamp with any sort of change. 

But yeah just to reiterate, Bateman did three rounds 'cuz he wanted to. We finished training our first round and I was well satisfied with the results. He on the other hand was blown the fuck away, and that's the way I like it ;)

That cemetary BJ story is fuckin awesome MW. I will be doing that as soon as it warms up outside :P