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I and a mate met these two 21yo swedish birds at a bar on thursday, my wing was escalating hard on his girl and blew himself out.. I had more chill convo with mine, i tought her how to roll a cigarette we joked about how we could start a cigarette rolling business and I and her would be 80-20 partnets etc.. she told me i remind her of her ex-boyfriend.. i tell her she reminds me of my ex.. we keep it light.. got her FB then I left early coz i had work the next morning.. Few days later she sends me this message on Facebook.

 

Facebook - she initiates

 

her: So i think, you just took my Facebook because you DONT have that much friend and that story about "deleted the one I don't know" was just something you said! If not, why did you took my face and yeah, don't say anything or idk:)

me: hey.. I took your facebook because i didnt want to miss out on the 20% of our cigarette rolling business  .. how've you been?

her: Ohh.. Right! Fuck haha forgot about that! My cigarette business! Hah.. Here is everything good, moved in to our apartment and yeah, all good  and you? How was the gym?

me: congratulations on the move to your apartment.. watch out for the midnight McDonalds cravings  gym was fucking hard after 2 months but worth it!

her: Thx!! It's a awesome apartment so I think I will like it here!! Haha I know, steff just fall in to that yesterday.. But I won't!! Nice, good for you! Looking forward to my first run..

me: Can't believe you already forgot our brilliant business idea tho! i thouht this partnership was going make us both rich 

me: jokes aside, i added you coz i thought you were funny & interesting.. we should hang out soon 

her: Hahah  it was funny! Yes off course! Go out and have a beer, or you can show me your music !

me: I'll be finishing my new track in a couple of days, you can be the first one to hear it.. but, you'll need a ticket 

her: And we're can I find this tickets?

me: bottle shop, the ticket comes in a bottle 

her: Ohh, i thought they come in u chocolate or something, you know willey vonka or what his name, so then I can stop by chocolate and start by beer :)) thanks!!

me: lets make it red wine instead.. i still haven't finished the song.. you'll to wait until sunday.. good things come to those who wait 

her: deal! hahha thats true! okeey then i'll wait! sorry for the "long time" answer but we dont have wifi in our apartment so, hehe much sitting on wifi cafes!  lucky that australiens got the best coffe!!

me: Yes we do have the best coffee but only in Melbourne  .. do u have a   local phone number yet? her: only melbourne really?? good that i moved here then! hehe yes i do got a number! finally!

me: Yes, thats why Melbourne's called the Europe of Australia  .. so what are your digits?

her: 0*****4, I think that's it 

 

Texts:

 

me: Yo this is Zach.. how's the weekend so far?

her: So far so good! Having sushi in the park :) how's your weekend so far?

me: The weekend was pretty chill, hung out with my hommies last might.. smokes, drinks and good music, cant complain :) i'll be home around 9pm.. did you buy your ticket yet?

her: Sounds like a good weekend :) little bit rough yesterday for me and crew. But I'm doing okey today :)) noo I haven't.. but they're not sold out right? Got some more hours ;)

me (7pm): time's running out, show starts at 9

her: I knooooow, i hate myself i'm a fucking wreck, you know when the hangover hits you very late, so have been sleeping on the sofa after more sushi, Soo, what's up? show starts in 45 or is it delayed? having a slow day..

me: Thas alright.. the show can wait for you.. what time can u get to the beach across from luna park?

her: Like on the beach? on the sand? not a place or anything? A meeting point? give me 30? :)

me: yep on the sand, i have a sand castle! nah i live across the road from the beach.. 30s fine.. text me when you get here [address]

her: do you want me to bring something drinks, food, bodyguard?

me: Bodyguard.. haha dont worry i have drinks.. you can pay for the ticket later.

her (9:30pm): I'm outside your house.

 

I go out and get her, wasn't physical at all on meeting her.. no hug no kiss.. no holding hands.. we just walk back.. At this point i had music going in my room and drinks on the table (which might have seemed a bit too presumtuous?).. I sit on my bed, she sits on the chair next to the bed, we play music from each others playlists.. her body language seems very closed and every time i try to escalate she backs away.. we hang out until midnight and she says hope i'm not giving you the wrong signals, i'm not going to sleep with you tonight, this really threw me off.. Then she was playing songs like "Think like a man" and "Bitch don't kill my vibe".. i try to escalate again, she backs off closes her arms.. at this point i'm pretty frustrated, and she can sense it.. She was like why are you so quiet, hope you're not disappointed.. we fluff around for a bit then she says i've gotto get going.. i see her out.. kiss on the cheek.. and thats the end of the night..

So facts are:

1. She chased me, i pushed back on 2 meets then finally organise to see her on Sunday

2. She comes to my house for drinks at 9:30pm on a sunday night

3. She doesn't even go for the make out

 

What the fuck happened here!?

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I believe you're struggling

I believe you're struggling with something I sometimes struggle with. I think you need to push harder with the escalation. Obviously you're not trying to push her into something she doesn't want but some women just want to be taken and overcome by masculine authority, dominance and desire. To achieve that, a guy has to risk going too far. A girl likes a guy who isn't afraid to go for what he wants, remember you can always back off and tell her that you just like her and it feels right to express yourself that way

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Sounds like you didn't really



Sounds like you didn't really set up a dynamic that was conducive to proper escalation if that makes sense. If a girl walks into your room and sees drinks out and music playing she def gets the picture but she may not be fully comfortable yet.

My advice would be:

1. Escalate immediately when you see her (hug and kiss on the cheek)

2. Set up a better hang out (pool, video games, something more "interactive')

3. Don't get butthurt or do some gay ass Mystery freeze out if she rejects your advances. Just be like "Yo, lets go on a walk" or "Anyway, blah blah blah."


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I feel like it's clear from

I feel like it's clear from your texting, that you kept everything a bit too boring and lacked masculine polarity. Try to be a bit more bold, tell her what to do in a playful way, that push-pull homie! Like the guys were saying above you just didn't set up the right dynamic, you set up your average "chode" date.

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Really, Meow. Meow meow 

Really, Meow. Meow meow 

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oh fuck me im sorry. Stupid

oh fuck me im sorry. Stupid internet connection made me angry so I clicked too much :P

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I like what G-money suggested

I like what G-money suggested about doing video games instead of setting up some elaborate "date." That's something I used to do back in college. N64 is the SHIT. Put on some Mario Kart and get some drinks going. You can escalate like a motherfucker.

What I did one time (before I got into pickup) was I played it with this sexy blonde in her apartment. We played two races, she won the 2nd (which made her a little cocky). So I told her that on a loss we had to take an article of clothing off. I was escalating on her the whole time IE cheating and throwing her controller, or pinching her. When I got her down to bra and panties I started trying to pull her panties down while she's trying to win the race. We were drinking at the time too, but now that I'm thinking back, I don't think she even realized consciously what was going on. It got to the point where we just kinda looked at each other in our underwear ... AND it just went down.

So yeah , try some of that out next time :)

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I don't have an N64 anymore.

I don't have an N64 anymore. Gonna have to fix that problem soon.

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Infinity wrote: I like what

Infinity wrote:
I like what G-money suggested about doing video games instead of setting up some elaborate "date." That's something I used to do back in college. N64 is the SHIT. Put on some Mario Kart and get some drinks going. You can escalate like a motherfucker.

What I did one time (before I got into pickup) was I played it with this sexy blonde in her apartment. We played two races, she won the 2nd (which made her a little cocky). So I told her that on a loss we had to take an article of clothing off. I was escalating on her the whole time IE cheating and throwing her controller, or pinching her. When I got her down to bra and panties I started trying to pull her panties down while she's trying to win the race. We were drinking at the time too, but now that I'm thinking back, I don't think she even realized consciously what was going on. It got to the point where we just kinda looked at each other in our underwear ... AND it just went down.

So yeah , try some of that out next time :)

Hell yeah, this is perfect.