Alex's FR's

@Alex123:

LOVE the report dude.

That sht in the beginning about just being super nervous, I totally know where you're coming from but all I can say is that when you're in the mode... just get at least one approach in. The next day do one more... that's what I've been doing and it really does get to the point where you start to have less and less anxiety.

Didn't know you were doing MW coaching.. that's AWESOME. Did he have you meditating on the beach? Cause if that's what you did- fucking awesome man. I ABSOLUTELY LOVE meditating on the beach... I used to live like 15 minute drive to the beach and it's just so fucking calming.

Anyway- I also liked how after the drills... you're mindset was TOTALLY different. You were approaching, you were hooking, things were going well.

That girl who you went into the garage with TOTALLY wanted you to make a move. She could just as easily been like, "Go to the garage" and have given you directions. Lesson learned.

I'm in the same boat as you. Still got some of that anxiety etc... but it really DOES go away.. like this isn't bullshit or only for SOME people... it really DOES go away.

Like my first night out (didn't post what I wrote up because it was pretty personal) I was SO FUCKING nervous. I approached group of 3 girls and they literally SCREAMED at me. It was gnarly. I had to like go home and write down everything I know to be true and give myself tons of affirmations and shit lmao, it was shitty. So I totally know where you're coming from... that being said- just get those approaches in homie...

Also- I LOVE how you're approaching at camp.. honestly man, your camp area sounds REALLY REALLY fucking fun. Where is it?

I may just stop by ; )

@Alex123:
First of all, I Respect the hell out of you for trying to go out sober. I've done it a couple times and its tough. You had great details in the report. All the chode like thoughts, you had at the beginning, the more that I read FRs is completely normal and no big deal for people starting out going out sober. It sounds like everyone goes through it.

Yea you were isolated with that hottie at the end there, but hey you live you and you learn.

Cool that you did the MW drills, mid- night and your whole night seemed to shift towards the better. I'm real pumped to be starting up this week.=) Legggooo

You sound like a cool kid man and I wouldn't be surprised to hear you killing it reall sooon. Solid FR Brotha.

@buddhagames:

Haha thanks bro, I appreciate the feedback and encouragement.

Yeah the MW drills combined with the single beer I drank is what gave me the confidence boost. Hopefully I'll get to a point where i won't need that beer.

Just to clarify, this beach we were at is actually across the lake from the camp I work at. It's walking distance, but you have to go across a path on the lake and takes about 30 mins to get there. So, I cant just instantly leave camp and be there. And i didn't bring my car here like a fool so im limited to going out when my coworkers go but they go out pretty often.

That being said it is a cool place. There's definitely certain events though that draw people out like those fireworks, races, or carshows. It's not usually like that every weekend.

I'll pm you the name of the lake/town.

@ItsMario:

Thanks man and yeah the MW coaching has definitely helped me with my vocal projection which is SO HUGE not only in this, but fucking life. You'll definitely be glad you did it man.

@Alex123:

Saturday our camp crew decides to go to the Milwaukee brewers game. The only thing of note here is after I have 3 beers in me I go up to this big group of guys/girls and am like "HEY, IVE GOT A QUESTION FOR YOU GUYS" I address the guys and im like "Do you guys have cups? Cuz Ive got a case of beer and ive been WAITING to play some beerpong"

They are down with this because my voice and attitude is just right. I am that guy "bringing the party". I go grab like 4 beers and another buddy from camp joins us and i just start introducing myself to people in the group. The guys are cool, and after talking to like 3 of them and talking bout where they're from and the usual shit, i notice a couple girlies standing back and just watching me smiling like whispering to each other. So im like "Are you guys from Madison too?" (most of them were saying they were.

And milwuakee girl is like ":) Noo, im actually from Milwaukeee. What about youu???"
I get in really close and giving her lots of eye contact "Im from Indiana girl" and start making fun of her wisconsin accent. She asks what im doing here and i tell her i work at a camp in xxxx, shes like "ohh! i go to xxxx my friends live there!" im like "you ever been to xxlake" shes like "yea!!! theres like a private part of the lake that is just the best :)!" Im like "you;ll have to show me sometime" *backturn into flip cup game

She completely follows me on my heels and is like "yeah I totally will!" and i think is asking me more questions but im now zoned in on this flipcup game and am like already talking to the dudes. I did this on purpose because im trying out this "you gota earn daddy's attention girl" thing, (seems to be working pretty well lol) and then look at a girl on my right whose got a bailey's shirt on. She gives me a big smile and im like "baileys like the drink. u made that shit didnt you." shes like "yeahhh i totally didd bla bla" we talk and shes from madison i tell her im always go there for halloween and mifflin because one of my good friends lives there. at some point she asks me about my heritage and I tell her to guess. I forget what she says but its something really stupid. And then she asks again. I backturn and tell her "no, that was a stupid guess." she immediately gets closer to me and is like "are you from uzbekistan??"
me: "no"
her: "is that close???"
me: "kinda
her: "where are you from??!!!"
me: "my dad's from xxxx"
her: oh so that was close!!!! bla bla

We play the game and im high fivin everywhere and sparking convo with other guys I havent talked to yet. I feel like this is important because when you join a mixed group like this who is already friends you cant just be focused on their girls unless you are pimp enough to just snatch the girl away from the group, which i dont feel like im on that level yet. Anyway we're all having fun and their group has really warmed up to me and we're all being physical with each other and stuff.

I get in some pictures w milwaukee girl and madison girl and am being physical with them about their bracelets and whatnot.

Milwaukee's girlfriend actually GIVES me one of her bracelets that she made cuz im talking about being jealous of em.. haha

I realize at this point that my group is gone they must have just seen me having a great time w these ppl so just left. I tell milwaukee girl and her friend that im hanging with them. theyre like '"okk!!"

a girl from the group who i havent talked to is like "do you get your boxers from macy's"
i get all up in her grill and im like "yeah girl how did you KNOW that..." i was honestly surprised lol.
her: "well theyre perry ellis and I work at macys so I know :)"
me: "Shit well im glad you know. A lot of ppl dont know this but perry ellis is actually some high end shit even tho its at macys. Cuz i only buy the best shit;)
her: *looks at my hat "yeahh :) that hat loooks pretty clean
me: "clean? hell yeah it does
her: "i said plain haha
me: "no you said clean girl and yeah thank you" i explain to her that i want to get it airbrushed with a design of my nickname which she asks me about
her: "thats pretty cool :)
me: *get really fucking close to her face "yeah it is pretty awesome girl just try not to get too hot n bothered by it" *asshole smirk on my face
her: *cracks up

I easily could have escalated here but chose not to b.c once again, i dont want to make it blatantly obvious to these guys (or even the other girls in the group) that im just trying to hook up with them. I would appreciate some feedback on this because I feel like there is something wrong with that analysis. and that maybe if I would have been more physical with each girl some jealousy plotlines would have ensued. I mean everything i had done up until this point had gotten me good reactions so why not push the envelople right?

I go talk to other people in the group and were talking bout heading inside to the game.
Madison girl opens me up again
her: "ok, so, I feel like you ask girls this all the time, bc.... i just feel like that's something you do, soooo... how close did I get when I guessed uzbekistan?"
me: "idk i'd have to look at a map"
her: "well what do other people usually guess?"
me: list off a bunch of things
her: ok youre DEFINITELY not mexican bla bla

i dont remember where the conversation went here but i grab her hand and shes like
her: "WHOaa ! dont grab my handd ! " like semi jokingly but takes it away. A shit test none the less. So i move up in the group and talk to the guys.

I need to find a ticket everyone else has one but me. I ask one guy on the street "5 bucks?? you got one for 5?" He's like "10" im like, "nope, 5." he's like "WAIT, 7."
me: "nope, 5"

theres a guy literally right before the gate with a bunch of tickets and i get his attention from like 20 feet away. "Ay bruh you got one for 5?" *holding out $5 bill. he starts saying something i cut him off "5 bucks pimp thats all i got." *and keep moving. he shuffles through tickets quickly and pulls one out. "ok cool" he's like "yeah buddy."

So we all go in everyone else paid like $15 for their tickets and mine is in the same section as theirs anyway.

We're on the escalator and i put my hand on boxer girls arm

me: what was your name again?
her: jamie
me: oh, i dont think you told em that before
her: i didnt
me: whats my name
her: idk

......... cool interaction bro. NOT. lol the thing is with the girls in this set is that I hit them all hard from the beginning. So any sort of normal interaction with them was like backtracking... Like I said before though I wasn't exactly sure of what to do. Like the only way to take things forward would be to just start dancing with them in the lobby and basically groping these girls cuz they had all given me signals that they would want me to do this. But somehow I doubt that this would have either A) been cool with them given the fact that all their guy friends were there and B) been cool with the guy friends because it would have kind of put it out there that i was obviously looking to hookup with one of their girls and not just the "cool social fun guy" that they thought. or something...

I guess this is a fine line/distinction here as to what is and isnt okay in situations like these that i will just have to learn thru experimentation. Honestly i just should have pushed it more without fearing getting blown out of their friendgroup.

So i chill with them and watch the game for awhile. Im sitting next to a guy and eat some chicken fingers. Eventually i go over to my camp group who are like "yoo!! where did you come from!"
i go and sit down by one of my coworkers and apparently knock his cup over which is on the ground by my feet.

I could not BELIEVE how much of a female this guy was being over this. He was all shaking his head, turning his back from me, complaining to the guy next to me, huffing and puffing and shit. He's like "that was a large beer and a full cup man that was 8 dollars" shaking his head and shit repeating himself. He takes out his hearing aid so i wait til he puts it back in and im like, "you want another beer man? ill go get you another beer".

him: yeah, just get me whatevers cheapest for you.
me: ok

so i go ask the guy for the cheapest beer they have, which is $6 anyway. I come back and this motherfucker is shaking his head at me im thinking "the FUCK is this guys problem. He's like "this is a small. i told you to get a large."
me: you said just get the cheapest beer they had
him: no i said get a large *shaking his head
me: *puts hand on back "look man, i didnt spill your beer on purpose."
hime: its cool its cool *still ultra bothered

I could never imagine myself being so petty like this. Like if i had been him I would have just been like "shit man its cool accidents happen, i probly shouldnt have left it on the ground anyway" and that would've been that. Keep in mind this guy had been drinking on my beers earlier before we went in. I had bought a whole case.

Anyway i probably should have handled it better, as in this guy was obviously just already in an emotionally fragile state when that happened.

I should have been like, "look, Todd, what is this really about. It was an accident that I spilled your beer. You told me to get a cheap beer and so I did, and youre still upset. If you feel like there's something going on between us that is a larger issue here please tell me. Because there is obviously something else that's bothering you that I am unaware of."

Once again i let my emotions get to me and after he was so ungrateful for the beer I just left. Had i taken my time, tried to dig past the emotions that i was having of why this guy is being so lame and negative toward me, I could have mustered up something like that, which would have been better for our relationship. Ive got to learn to do things that are good for people and not act on whims of being frustrated in situations like these.

Anyway im feeling strange at this point and go back to the milwaukee friend group. Theyre like "long time no see man," im like "yeah" and just grab a seat and watch. Milwaukee girl is sitting one seat down from me (theres a guy between us) and he leans forward and we lock eyes and shes like "hey :))" i say hey back
eventually this guy leaves so i scoot next to her.

At this point i still feel strange because of the interaction earlier. I say something about how my bracelet that the friend made for me fit strange (why the fuck i would say something retarded like this after she gave me a gift i dont know). then the friend was playing with something and i was like"let me see that" and she did but was immediately like "i need it back though its mine." So im already losing tons of rapport lmao. all i know is i was THINKING about what i should say to milwaukee girl, when the interaction was clearly beyond that point. It's like, i would look in her direction and she would be all smiley. or she would look in my direction after talking to her friends to see if i was looking her way. The level of receptivity this chick had with me at this point was like, all i had to do was be like "whats up" with some sick nasty eye contact and she wouldve started yapping my face off. instead i asked her fucking dumb questions that dont take the conversation anywhere good cus im in my damn head and i allowed that woman of a man from earlier to rub his troubled state off on me. What i need to realize in these situations is that i did NOTHING wrong. i bought this guy a beer which i didn't have to do. I was generous in this situation and he just didn't appreciate it. This is HIS fault, not mine, and therefor has NOTHING to do with me.

And aside from that i need to learn how to subtly escalate when girls friends are around, and how to continue the interaction instead of taking it backwards by having "normal" conversation. Although i think in this case it was mostly due to the fact i felt so strange after the spilled cup interaction, which is just a bigger problem i need to focus on of not allowing my state to be swayed by people that try to make me feel guilty and bullshit.

Anyway since i cant think straight I say something about her showing me that private part of the lake again then break eye contact. again she says "i will." but the tension that was there from earlier is just gone by this point. They're group is talking about leaving because the game is almost over, so I just get up and begin walking down. I kind of wait around for the group but its clear theyre taking their time and i just feel like i fucked the interaction up w my girl so i just bounce.

Meet camp group back at car. I was going to try to go downtown with one of the guys who was visiting his brother but when i asked him if it was cool if i came he hesitated for a long time so i was like "if not its cool too". and just went back to camp.

When i got home i called up Cart girl.

Gona text milwaukee girl later.

@Alex123:
There's a lot in here mang. You're coming along that's for sure. You were making me pull my hair out and I don't even have hair. Good good shit.

Yes girls like to be molested if someone follows you (who was this coworker) then IMMEDIATELY take her somewhere else. Literally have her follow you into another little cubbyhole, OR, just start getting loud and slightly boisterous with her pushing her against the wall WITH your coworker there. They will be like.. oh, and leave.

Your turdbag coworker made you go into your head that's when you go into your body and flush it out. Release that tension and go back to normal. We'll discuss this more later but it's an easy fix. ALSO, you need to look into his eyes and let him know you wouldn't have a problem smashing his face in. Some guys just need it.

This report is like.. bonkers to me. You're taking a lot more control here. You're also losing control, but that's BECAUSE you took more control. And that's the point. You go out and do it, see where you lose it, learn from it, come back stronger. I'm very stoked about this progress I'm going to write up some notes.

@Alex123:

July 6-

So tonight some of the camp crew and I went up to Milwaukee for Summerfest music festival. They all wanted to see some band; I wanted to get off camp and approach.

So we get there & I buy my ticket off some guy for $10, everyone else buys them for $16. I go in first and wait for the crew. We start walking toward the stage they all want to go to and stop for some reason. I notice a cutie looking at me, and we lock eyes for a couple seconds. I go up to her
her/me: "Hey" *same time
me: "is that a mexican shirt?" (i am noticing that I tend to blurt things out, instead of taking my time like a smooth relaxed sex panther. I could have just allowed tension to build here by maintaining eye contact but i just started moving my mouth…. to avoid awkwardness? or maybe thats just what I am used to. But in any case this is something that needs to be dealt with its like I have add or something)

her: uhh no are u mexican?
me: "no, just wondering if your shirt was"
her: * keeps guessing where im from

don't remember specifics here but we talk about what she's going to see/ who she's here with I tell her I work in xxx like an hour away. She is receptive but then some friend comes up and asks me to take a pic of them, so i do, and my camp crew is lingering in the background watching me talk to this girl/commenting on it. One of the girls from camp asks me to call her since "it looks like we might get separated." Between this and mexican girl's friends coming up to her and dragging her off- while my friends decide to also leave, I just roll with my crew.

Important to note here- I think to myself: "ok its cool. It doesn't matter that you didn't follow up on that set since these are just warmup sets. it doesn't matter what happens with these they're just to get the juices flowing.

VERY soon after I see 2 cute girls walking past us.
me: "Hey" - sexpanther voice
girls: "Heyyy :) * they prolong it extra long and one of them like skips/jumps while she says it like she got all excited.

Ok, totally WASN'T expecting such a positive reaction from a simple "Hey," so I turn as they move past and they both are looking back at me and we maintain eye contact for like at least 3 good seconds and im now like 10 feet away from them. In my head i think the same thought I JUST had which was "its cool bro these are warmup sets they don't matter." Which was WRONG because those girls were super down and I should have just gone after them. By the time I regained consciousness and became present & in the NOW they were too far away. If i had gone after them then it would have put me into super "buyer frame." Wack.

We get up to the stage my crew wants. Tell em Im going to the bathroom and will be back (sike). So I go #2 and come out. Theres 2 cute girls sitting on a bench taking a picture of themselves. I slowly walk up to them, and say matter of factly
me: "I can take that if you want"
girls: Really?
me: Yeah I mean you guys are just so cute :)
girls: :)) ok!

so i take the picture
me: awe its supa cute :)
girls: "thank you! :)" *take camera back
me: yeah, so what are you girls up to
girls: oh were just waiting to see ____ band (same ones my friends are at). what about you?
me: yeah, thats cool. my friends are over there actually.

… silence…. there is tension I see the girls both eye coding each other to make sure they're on the same page and it looks like they are in agreement that they think im cool.

so they are both just standing there smiling at me and I cant think of what to say. Like I think I am just rusty on flirting in general because ive been at this damn camp for the past 6 weeks.

They're both really fucking cute and all i can think of to say is give them compliments but i don't want to qualify them out the ass since i already told them they were cute like 3 times lol. So im like,

me: well---
hotter girl: are you- (I could tell she was going to ask me something, like seek some sort of rapport or see what i was doing and then possibly even invite me to chill with them, but i am in stupid ramble mode where if there are moments of silence i feel the need to make some kind of move. I should have STOPPED right there and asked her "what were you saying?" but I continued with my "I hate pussy monologue"-

me: well, i hope you girls have a fun night :) .. What were you about to say?
hotter girl: oh I was going to say the same thing! (no she wasn't.)
me: Ok :) maybe ill see you in there later

they both are like: "yeah you too! …. thanks for taking our picture!!" (after i'm already walking away.)

Im like FUCK man what am I DOING. Like i went in to this night just thinking I want to get a bunch of approaches in, but just because I go in and don't know what to say--- that is NO FUCING EXCUSE to just bounce out of a set like that that was obviously invested. God damn.

So I walk away and miss a couple approaches that I want. I have this crazy fear of mixed sets for some reason like its fucking annoying I miss so many sets bc of that. I go to where they're selling beer and figure that Ill get one and sit down and do my MW drills since last time I felt shitty/missed approaches at the fireworks carnival this helped me. So I do drills for 15 minutes sitting at a table sipping my beer. People can hear me but I dont care.

So. Im still feeling really apprehensive about approaching girls here. Its like… similar environment as that fireworks shindig the girls here are young and its not a club/bar scene.. its a concert scene and im just not used to these environments/ approaching much period out here since im always at camp. These are lame excuses.

I go up to a 3 set w a girl w a fat ass in some daisydukes after some hesitation. (this ALWAYS fucks me up). and im like
me: "hey… *lightly grab her wrist, all 3 looking at me "I just wanted to say…. that you guys… are really cute"

I say this without vocal projection and before i even open my mouth i can tell its going fail. Its the damn hesitation. needless to say after a completely unenthusiastic and probably creeped out "thank you" I leave lol

Another thing about this was I gently put my hand on her wrist while saying this. Because Ive been reading buddha's club FRs and I know from personal experience that contact on approach can lay some of the groundwork down ahead of time/show confidence. But idk if thats the right way to go about it at concerts. I mean i feel like the best responses I got were when I approached this place like it was daygame. And in daygame you don't just go up grabbing girls hands/wrists. (or do you??) lol

I walk up behind a couple girls and she's holding her phone out to the music
me: "you taking a video?" i think i have to ask her this like 3x before she pays attention to me. What i SHOULD have done, considering I thought she was taking a video, is get up in the camera and start doing silly dance moves. Be value GIVING. worst thing that would've happened is she would've been pissed i ruined her video haha.
Turned out she was recording a vm for her friend. I don't remember any specifics about this interaction but basically this girl was annoyed that i was asking her questions and the two of them left.
(*something im noticing as I write this up is I am totally coming from a "value taking" frame.)

I just think to myself "Ok, we're not gona allow this to get you in your head, this is practice and you're doing fine, you just need to keep going"

So I walk and spot this SEXY ass girl moving past me fast with her friend. Im like i CANT let this one escape so i do something kind of like what i remember reading on here about daygame.

I run up in front of them and stop with my hands out

me: "STOP." *to my surprise my sexy girl in the dress is just as gorgeous in the face
girlies: *stop
me: *grinning "You guys…. are super cute, *I USE my words here, like prolonging every part of every word to draw it out
girlies: *brightening up slightly
me: like SO cute, that I HAD to come up and tell you :) * part of why i think this worked is bc they WERE fucking cute.
girlies: *good reaction and they have now accepted this reality
girlies: * looking at each other/me/smiling/giggling
me: Yeah so what are you guys up to
my girl: :) we're just walking around *like opens her legs wider and leans into "we're chilling here talking to you" way of standing. She like put her hands on her hips and her head tilted to the side like she was curious/ had this "show me something cool" sort of attitude. but was super smiley w the anime eyes at the same time.

me: Oh k me too. Well we should all hang out. *come in to both of them and sort of hug them/ put my arm around they're shoulders. This was NOT as good as it should have been i needed to take more control and really bring their bodies into mine like I wanted to instead of this half-hearted "is it okay if i do this? hug. This shit is so all or nothing.

my girl: *backs away "oh reallyyyy :)" *hands on hips again. She is giving me some great eye contact though
me: yeah im not from around here so you should gime the tour
her: Where are you from?
me: Indiana
her: oh i knew you weren't from here let me hear your accent oh your accents cute!! *She is leaning into me listening to my voice

At some point i kind of grab her hand and she moves it away but then i immediately ask her about her bracelet so she gives it back but i just look at it briefly.

we banter a iittle about wisconsin accents. I ask them if they're 21 bc im trying to figure out if I can take them to get beers.
my girl: Noo, we're 18
friend: we're 18
me: oh cuz i was gona say i could get some beers if u guys throw me some money
her(interrupts): We're 18 though

Lol like they made it a POINT to let me know that they were 18.
me: Ok, I'm down with that :)
girls: laughing pretty hard. my girl like bends at the waist/puts her head down as she laughs

So we start walking in the direction of the beerstand and at this point im walking next to my girl and her friend is walking by her, so my girl is in the middle. Im thinking in my head that I should be in the middle, just to mitigate their girl code, or to play off/remind them of the fact that they BOTH think im cool. and so they wouldn't decide to just leave or whatever.. After all i did open them both at the same time.

im like "yeah if u guys wana give me like $10 bucks ill go grab us a couple beers."

the friend looks at my girl for her response. my girl is laughing/bending down again and is like "no! hahaha"
and im kind a confused and she's like "this is my song." and kinda starts dancing
me: oh so you had to have your moment there.
her: yeah

So then she's like "Thats them Lets go!" and she starts running off in the direction of the band and the friend follows. Of course i follow them cuz we had all just been vibing. So i follow and they meet these dudes and are hugging them and stuff. They both look back to see if i followed and see that i did. the friend hugs one guy once while my girl hugs like multiple guys and is kind of all over them. so i turn to the friend.
me: are you guys hanging out with these guys
friend: I don't know…. Ask her..
so i wait till she doesn't have both arms wrapped around this guys neck and then just lightly grab her arm
me: "are you hanging out with these guys"
her: these are our BOYS…. *shes like acting drunk now when she wasn't just a minute before…
me: Okay.

one guy is like "hey what are you doing man" after i grab her arm and ask her that and im like "just talking to her man" and leave.

Looking back on this i probably should have stayed in the set with the friend. Who at least wasn't playing the same type of whatever game my girl was. She seemed pretty straight up with me like she wasn't trying to douche me over.

anyway i instantly go into another set which fizzles. I go approach some more sets nothing really stands out. Theres some girl with an american indian looking bag and i approach her from behind telling her i like it. we talk about how she needs to get closer to the stage and i tell her she can do it by pretending she can tell peoples futures with her native american powers. The spark/ physicality just isn't there. she tells me to have a good night before she leaves.

I approach some other girls that just straight up ignore me. But my game/intent is lame so it doesn't surprise me.
Stall on a couple sets who notice me so don't approach.

Girl w red hair walks by me.
me: is that natural red hair?
her: yeah it is
me: I love it. *rubs her head* I could just play with it all day

her friend starts laughing and i turn to her

me: "what about you are you a natural blonde bombshell"
her: "haha yeah"

I keep saying something but they scamper off.
I find this cool spot overlooking the lake and Im pretty sure i see two girls smoking (weed possibly?)
I head that way and realize its my two girls from before. They see me and instantly my girl looks back at friend and obviously they are talking about me. I go over to them.

HERE is where shit gets weird. Like i kind of surprise myself on how I handled this. Looking back on it I feel like I handled it like a complete gayboy, but at the time it's what my gut instinct was telling me to do. So I can tell she's all like apprehensive about me coming back over cuz she wont even make eye contact. also theres no way she's going to be straight up and honest w me about whats going on cuz she's all on some girl code shit w her friend. So i go up and put my hands on my knees like

me: "If you want me to leave just tell me. if you want me to go away I will"
her: *not looking at me. "no, we were just with our friends.
me: "ok" *i sit on the rocks with them
they are chatting about their logistics and mention a guy named dylan a couple times.
my girl is kind of ignoring me or is texting or something so i turn to her friend and comment on how its a beautiful spot they are at. she tells me they were there yesterday. there is some silence and i can feel that there is awkwardness (mainly on my girls end) and im trying to just figure out what is going on so i ask the friend
me: so are those guys ur boyfriends.
friend: "no, we met them on the bus"
me: "the bus?"
friend: "yeah we like took a bus to come up here with people"
me: "oh.. i see. "
they talk about logistics more and about meeting up w people
me: "so you're meeting back up w you're friends? *i address my girl now. she doesn't hear me so I scoot up by her and re-ask the question.
when I scoot by her she seems to kind of open up and be receptive to me again i think she smiles at me. my arm is kind of resting against her knees and I ask her again.

like i just thought these girls were pretty cool in all honesty and i wasn't trying to mess things up for their plans or whatever so i was just trying to figure out what was going on, cuz she obviously chose to ditch me earlier for those guys. anyway when they're talking about meeting up with those guys again im ilke

"i understand. i mean theres two of them, and one of me" and i kind of smile.

This is not something i would normally do but like i said i felt like my girl didn't really want me to be there even though they kept saying those guys weren't their boyfriends, the whole time we were on the rocks my girl was making plans to go meet them. I also felt that by me saying this I kind of acknowledged to the 3 of us that im cool and they knew it, but logistics wise it made more sense for them to meet with a group of guys who they knew from before, and actually have real logistics with. I mean i don't even have a car and have to be back at camp later that night.

Anyway i still have my arm resting against my girls knees on these rocks but i sense they are about to leave so im like,

me: "ok well, let me get ur # and maybe we can hangout sometime" I sense her hesitation
me: "if you want to-- like do you ever go up to sheboygan?
her: sometimes. I have cousins there
me: cool have u ever been to lakexxx?
her: no
me: well maybe you could come visit me sometime there where i work its really beautiful out ther

I hand her my phone and she puts her # in but looks like she doesn't want to lol.

We all get up and I tell them to have a good night and they say you too and like speedwalk away lol.

I approach more sets but theres only one more that stands out.

Toward the end of the night theres two girls that I walk by. Shes wearing nikes and im like "are those dunks?
her: no,, im not sure what they are
me: ok cool was just wondering cuz ima nike enthusiast bla bla.

Dont remember all the details but we end up chatting for a while. We talk about their friends/my friends since we are by the exit looking for them. Make normal conversation about life. They're juniors in h.s. and live in Milwaukee. The one i approached works at mcdonalds and some place called cousins. Im like, "im gona visit you at Mcdonalds and order the 20 nuggets for $5."
theyre laughing and say ok. I tell her to look up my song on youtube which is about nikes and adidas. It doesn't load i try to add her on fb and that doesn't work either so im like "give me ur # and well grab chicken nuggets when im in milwaukee.
*laughs/ gives me #

I give them a 3 way hug and leave
------------------------------------------------------------------------

@Alex123:

"By the time I regained consciousness and became present & in the NOW they were too far away. If i had gone after them then it would have put me into super "buyer frame." Wack."
-If you were having this thought process... you were NOT present. In fact, this is the exact thought process that being in the present PREVENTS!... When people say stuff like, "You have to be willing to fail"... THIS is what they are talking about.You didn't push the approach because you didn't want to *possibly* be in the buyer frame... BRO BRO BRO... next time- RUN THE FUCK AFTER THEM... it's not the buyer frame if you're being awesome. By NOT running after them, you showed a lack of confidence in who you are. The confident guy would have run after them, not caring about what happened next, just knowing that in that moment, he wants to meet them and the only way to do that is to run after them.

Like let's be real here- You didn't run after them becuase you didn't want to feel discomfort... THATS what this really comes down to. You didn't want to have to break out of the comfortable mold you have for yourself. You didn't want to risk FAILURE. How do I know this? Because I am right there with you dude! We all are. But this is what the process is. You do the approach anyway, and then IF you fail, you realize that doing it the other way may have been better, so next time, you don't wait so long.

This shit is a process dude. Failure is a part of the process so if you are, in any way, trying to avoid failure, you are avoiding the process and, thus, what you are really doing is avoiding success.

@Alex123:

So my lessons from last night are:

1) Learn to take my time and BREATH in set. Otherwise I'll run my mouth nonstop and this is often a hindrance rather than a help

2) Its okay to "Warm up" and call it that, but dont allow yourself to overlook ANY interaction's worth or value just because you have categorized it as a "warmup set." Those first few sets could have been the strongest sets of my entire night and could have turned out AMAZING- like, I could have potentially learned a lot from those sets-- instead of running around most of the night like a headless chicken---- IF I hadn't convinced myself that they "didn't matter" because they were "warmups".

3) Act QUICKLY, DO NOT STALL, and DO NOT be afraid of getting BLOWNOUT HARD. DUHHH. If i would have gone for some more ballsy shit I could have learned more. Like at venues like this I should be doing the spin-move shit on approach just to see what the f happens

- another point with this, is that like if the girls were nervous or apprehensive- like if it didnt look like they were slightly receptive i let it affect me. I'm better than this.

4) More physicality. this goes along w #3 of not being afraid of getting blown out. If i stick w the same level of physicality as ive done in the past my results are not going to change.

5) And my last lesson is more of a question. Obviously w the set that i stopped w the girl in the dress I should have taken more control- aka been more physical, direct with more intent, but i figured i would have an opportunity to do this since i thought we were grabbing beers. So the lesson is that i need to do this shit quicker i guess? and just be better.

But my question would be how should I have handled all this once they ran over to those other guys? Should I have stayed in the set with the friend? And what about when I saw them later at the rocks? Obviously the way I handled it wasn't good. I started acting like she was the prize. I mean i literally chased these girls over to the band and then went up to them on the rocks and was like "if u want me to leave just tell me". But what should I have done instead? cuz I KNOW this girl was attracted to me AND her friend was too but for some reason they ran away from me.

Should I have called this girl out to her friend like "yo your friends a fucking dick. We were all hanging earlier and then she just dipped without saying anything. fucking rude"

or what? I know this is a long report and nothing spectacular happened. But if I could get some feedback on what was going on in this situation that would be cool. I feel like there maybe there was something going on that I wasn't seeing...

I texted her right after i got her #:

me: Hey, didn't mean to interrupt your plans. Just thought u guys were genuinely cool esp. considering how I randomly stopped u lol. Enjoy ur night beb- Alex

this is also a wack text I dont know what the fuck i was on last night. it should have just been.

me: Have fun w "your boys" beb. Sry you couldn't get a chance w me tonight. Its proly for the best tho- little girls should play with nice boys not supervillains ;p

or something but that wouldn't have been consistent w how i was acting in person.

@buddhagames:

Lmao buddha you are so fucking right dude. Thanks for posting this. I can't believe that after coming back and evaluating stuff I was STILL looking at it wrong. You're totally right I need to be willing and happy to look like a lameass if I want to become better. Fuckkkk lol.

Next time. I WILL run the fuck after them... and be confident in that shit. Cuz i wanted to meet them. and thats all there is to it. Thanks for setting me straight man. That's why I post my shit in here.

Geezus.

@Alex123:
Yo man you have conversational DRILLS you can do infield that are awesome. Wtf

@Manwhore:


Saturday’s FR-- It took me awhile to analyze this. Like I’ve said before I’m not good at this yet & this night I sucked balls. Whatever, not going to beat myself up, just do better next time; that’s why I’m here.
I wrote this out then came back and re-evaluated it. Maybe I’m still not even right about some stuff, but here it goes:

We go out to xxbar after coming back from the Wisconsin Dells. I leave Cartgirl a voicemail.

Im at the bar drinking w my buddys & some girl throws ice at us from across the bar. I go around to approach.

I tap her on the shoulder and im like “DId u throw ice at us?”. She’s super high energy & starts telling me how she’s a road scholar... I ask her what this has to do with ice. She starts yapping about random stuff. It’s like she wasn’t hammered- just super giddy or something. She’s with 2 girls. Her friend hands me a shot. The other friend didn’t want it. So icegirl starts talking about interfeurons & I’m like you need to speak in laymans english I don’t understand what you’re talking about. She starts bragging about how her friend is super smart and graduated college at 18 & introduces me. I talk to smartgirl. Icegirl turns to a guy theyre with. (I figure I’ll learn something from interacting with either of them so I dont mind switching.) Now ice/shotgirl are talking to guyfriend at the bar but keep turning back like checking on us. I tell my girl lets go downstairs so i can show her a song i made. (We were talking about music etc. it just made sense). She tells me to play it right there, I tell her she won’t be able to hear it. I tell her to come with me several times but she wants to stay with her friends.

(^^I know this is wack. I need to be more forceful/physical/authoritative so following my lead becomes *desirable* & the socially “cool” thing to do. I need to work on getting compliance, and be able to read how much of it I have. If I didn’t have that much then then I could have made a more innocent request like “show me your necklace” or “do you like this bar” and built a “yes” ladder.)


Shotgirl is watching my interaction with smartgirl & says she “hates” me, sort of jokingly. -Shittest-. I tell her “nahh you love me thats why you gave me that shot bla bla...” As I talk icegirl chimes in agreeing with shotgirl. As I continue to talk they start providing more & more resistance to what I say. I don’t know how I could have passed this shittest. Obviously what I did didnt work.

During this I turn back to interact with my girl who has no problem with me. At some point icegirl turns into a SUPER bitch. She starts putting her hands on me telling me I need to leave. I move her hand away from me im like “DONT touch me.” Honestly, i wanted to cuss her out and leave bc this was totally unwarranted, but I didn’t want to get into it with their guy friend.

So i go chat with my buddy several feet away. This area of the bar is packed or I would have totally left the area. I open a girl calling her snooki’s sister/hilary duff. The set opens well but then smartgirl comes over & is hovering behind me trying to talk to me- I tell snooki to hold on for one second & turn around expecting her to apologize for her friends, bc the last thing she had said was she told the guy that “im fine” & was telling me her friends were “really drunk.” Instead she’s like “just so you know when you call my friend a dike thats not ok”
im like “i never said that.”
shes like “well my friend told me you said that”.

I’m thinking these girls are retarded I should have ignored her. By the time i turn back snooki’s given me the backturn. I go for a reopen & snooki’s friend in a blue dress walks by me googley eyed. Maybe she saw friendgirl trying to get my attention & thought I had “social proof”... Or maybe she just knew im awesome (ha ha). Anyway I forget the details but i pull her in close to me and game to the best of my ability while her friends are right there. At one point she says something about you can ride my tail so i pull her ass into me and move my fingers across her pantyline. She likes this. Her friend drags her away from me. I don’t feel like chasing her- I figure I’ll see her later.

I tell my buddys lets go to the next bar and we do. At this bar I go mack some girl sitting on the bar. She likes it. She goes behind the bar (she’s an employee) i dont follow once again i figure ill get to talk w her when she comes back from behind the bar. I walk into the next room and its the 3 bitchgirls sitting there. They’re like “ewww” when I walk through. I go to the restroom. I tell guys in there not to talk to those girls. They ask me about it & I tell them theyre “retarded ass bitches” or somethng like that & sort of explain why. The guys are like cool man thanks for the heads up.

→ What’s interesting is I see these guys later and he tells me he walked up to them and was like “Hey I heard you guys were bitches and WHORES!!” and that the girls were like “hey!! who told you that? who are you?? Lets take a picture omg!!!” like loving it. He said he just walked away. He told me, “youre right those bitches are dumb as fuck.”

I thought this was interesting and kind of strange. Like my rationalization for this originally was that these girls are just messed up in the head. But then I thought about it & decided the way he did it probably displayed a lot of confidence, “idgaf attitude”. Maybe it worked in this context because they KNEW they were bitches, or maybe the explanation is actually (and i think this makes the most sense) that they WANTED to get told the fuck off..... Like they were being bitches as a fucking shittest. They wanted to get called the fuck out (atleast shotgirl did) and shit on. And I didn’t pass their shit test. The thing is though is that icegirl was getting all up in my shit and I want NO part of a girl putting her hands on me, telling me to leave. Which is why I left. So idk this situation was strange. Maybe if I had just COMPLETELY ignored her and dealt with her friends it could have been better. Something else that ran thru my mind was that maybe icegirl got jealous that I switched to her friend, because like I said at the beginning she was just talking my damn head off & I was just like.. idk what you’re talking about. And she just kept going. I think it is more likely though that they didn’t like my physicality with smartgirl. I could sense them judging it. Which actually is frustrating bc I dont know what I did that was “wrong.” ugh...

I really wish I could read situations like this better. I notice that sometimes I “dont want to fuck things up” so I stick w the girl that’s handed to me. I felt like that’s what icegirl did for me in the beginning: we were talking, she thought I was cool, so introduced me to her friend and then turned back to her guy friend. Im like ok, she’s talking to this guy so she probably wants me to talk to her friend. But now i think about it and it’s like the way she got so shitty with me doesn’t make sense. I mean I know she was agreeing with shotgirl, but the only “crime” I had committed was that I was engaged in an interaction with their friend... Unless my physicality was just THAT off... but smartgirl herself didnt seem to mind it. I am seriously confused about this.. Maybe one of you could give me some input.

What I do know is if I had acted freely & with an “abundance” mindset, I would have just gone shotgirl. She was the cutest.

I would have trailed off conversation with smartgirl & just switched. Or somehow gotten her involved in our convo I guess but she was kind of standoffish the whole time. LIke during this I imagined in my head going for her and then getting weird looks from shotgirl and having them all girlcode/ridicule me & get blown out lol........ But even imagining that shows I was way too in my head. And who cares if I wouldve gotten blown out? It’s like I’m operating from this scarcity mindset bc im in a small town and I dont even get to go out that much over here.

But fuck outcome dependency it fucks me over. I went along w smartgirl in order to avoid drama but they made a bunch of drama anyway. So i should just do exactly what I want and learn to deal with WHATEVER happens.

Geeez. --Back where I left off.

I see the girl that was sitting on the bar on it again and go. problem is shes sitting up there and im below her looking up at her and shit. The vibe just completely fizzles and i leave. I should have taken her hand and told her to hop down so we could be face to face. Or taken her to the jukebox machine. Moving girls should be second nature by now, especially when the dynamic isn’t working in my favor.

I see bluedress girl. I am going to lay out my thought process for why I didn’t approach her. I know it’s fucked- but it’s how I felt:

I see her and she’s with her friends- snooki & the one that already dragged her away from me, and I just think “I don’t feel like getting blown out.” Like as soon as I lock eyes with her or any of her friends they just look away/turn away from me. So im just like... fuuuuk. I guess I was expecting the same dynamic as the 3 bitchgirls where the friends like “protect” her from me. Because bluedress girl’s friend was pretty vigilant about dragging her away from me twice at the other bar.

Like... it just felt like work. I know this is the wrong attitude to have with this stuff but when I’m at the bar just trying to liven up some girl’s night, and then her friends just get super bitchy on me im like.. well fuck i would rather just not do this. I am completely guilty of picking the easy way out.

This is how I rationalized it in my head-

“If I was at a club in a city I would push myself and have no problem going back to sets or going ALL out escalation wise, and on every level. But in this town I am in right now, I see the same people out when I’m out. I don’t want to go in for some crazy escalation tactic that gets a super bad reaction, and then be ostracised from an entire social group here, when I have half my summer left at this place”.

Like HONESTLY that’s just how I felt. And it sucks because I know it’s completely chode and wrong, but like I know that shit is going to go thru my head every time i go out here. Like I literally just need to get myself OUT of my head so I do things that I’m not used to/comfortable doing: i.e. dragging girls out/carrying them away from their friends/ more hardcore physical escalation.


I do some unmemorable appraoches and at the end of the night & its lame.

So. Like I said I am not proud of this report. Actually I’m embarrassed. But i still took the time to write it and actually came back a couple times to re-evaluate things because of said situations that really confused me. If I could get any feedback on those that would be sweet. I have a feeling that it goes back to me feeling and therefore displaying permission seeking characteristics, & not having an abundance mindset. Like i gave WAY too much of a fuck this night.. It was all just off for me. It’s funny because Ive been working on my voice and focusing on that which has actually gotten better, but maybe the focus and attention that I am paying to that has actually made me go more inside my head. Ive got to be able to seperate these things out in my mind so I can still be aware of how I sound without being “aware” of if what I’m doing is “okay” with my logical mind.

I NEED TO BE A MORE ACTIVE PARTICIPANT IN MY ENVIRONMENT. If things arent working in my favor I need to MAKE them work in my favor.

@Alex123:

Lmao ok August 7th

I do productive shit most of the day, workout with my hometown homie, chill, decide we'd hit the bars later. We used to live together & produce music.

He has a girlfriend but she isn't in town now and she is studying abroad this semester. Anyway he picks me up about 10pm, and we go out. It's $2 tuesdays at a couple bars so we go to one of them there isnt really anyone in there, but one of our homies from high school. He says we should meet up and collab on music since he just made a studio at his new place etc. We're like ya for sure. This guy(FJ) is pretty cool, socially independent, and he's always got a different girlfriend it seems like. And theyre all fine. Anyway we go inside and get some goose shots, i talk to FJ's old roommate/bartender who knew we wanted pineapple chase. He's pretty cool too. So we then make our way into the next bar, which is also $2 tuesdays, but theres people in this one ;)

We pay $2 cover. I walk thru, getting my bearings in an environment i havent been in months. We go to the back patio, Beerpongs being played on a table. I armtap one of the girls and ask "who's got next game", she is being distant giving me vague answers, then she says idk, so im like "well guess what im gona do! make a sign up sheet" and go to the bartender. I ask bartender for a piece of paper & pen she's like "u better give it back :)" im like "i will im not even going anywhere" *smirk
i turn around and this blonde girl is super receptive when i ask if shes playing bp. I have her sign the paper and we talk for briefly, talking about how we both havent played in forever then she turns to face the group of ppl she's with.

My homie is like "lets hold it down" in the area of patio we're at, which isnt a bad spot so im down. We're people watching and I tell him "just point out girls for me to go talk to and ill go," he points out a blonde hottie who's standing by a table of boys talking to them. I puss out/decide I could have a better chance later if I wait til she's in a different situation. I get a tad frustrated that I didn't just go in with that "IDGAF" attitude, so I start projecting my voice loud and telling my friend about how I made breakfast this morning. Then BAM I go into a 2set right by us.

"Yo girl you wana know what I had for breakfast this morning?? Potato pancakes, yeah thats some exotic shit."

I laugh to myself after this opener. Its like my subconscious reaction so that girls dont think im crazy or something. But it think shit like this would work better if I kept a stronger frame and didn't laugh at myself. Idk. Anyway we talk and find out these girls are 25/28 or something, which is totally cool, but theyre treating the interaction like we're little boys or something/ there isnt much attraction/chemistry between the 4 of us anyway. I tell them it was nice meeting them and we'll see them at the beerpong table. I try my best to do a "patronizing pat on the back" that girls do to guys on them lol.

We go to the beerpong table and im just being social with the people there saying im rooting for the blonde girl from earlier's team. Im talking with her male partner just as much tho just trying to get in a social groove. I head back to the bar and flirt with the bartender a little bit asking if she just started working there shes like "ppl ask me that all the time" but i guess she HAS been working there for a year. im like i never saw you girl. at any point in the night i could have gone for the # but i feel like it wouldnt have been solid. my game with bartenders isn't that great right now and id rather just make friends with all of them.

So we're chilling at the bar and an old h.s. friend comes up to us. we chat and i recommend we go find his girlfriend/friends. We do a lap around the bar there is a stunner in a blue top that i point out to my homie. She's at a table with guys and I dont go in.

We walk more, I see a couple girls I think I like but cant really see their faces. The next one i do and likey so I go in instantly.

"Hey, *walks up to their table, rest my elbows on it "I like your flower ornament, *point out the flowery ruffle stuff she has going on on her blouse "You look like a christmas tree. A sexy christmas tree"

The group of 3 girls kind of light up when i say this and so i start talking with my girl. She's watching the olympics and i look at the screen and kind of allow her to say something first. I think i need to do this a hellofalot more. It's like the way i opened that set ive already shown im a valuable guy, so now its her turn to do something. I notice a lot of the time ill "plow" or overgame sets that dont need it. I think even after she asks me something i go into a word vomity rant about high school and sports ('cuz i asked if she played sports in high school). At some point I realize that I already know this girl. I already have her # and I've hit on her before at the bars. So when we realize that weve met before and know who each other are i put my arm around her ribs and pull her in and tell her that she misses me and how she's been sexually frustrated that i havent been texting her or something. She laughs but isn't super into it either though. At some point it comes up that this is my 1st night back in town and shes like why dont you go mingle with your friends (not in a mean way). Im like "you know what I will, I'll text you" and kiss her hand as I leave.

I keep walking down the bar and ask a brunette what kind of drink she's got. (lame opener)
her: its a water long island
me: *get all up in her grill "Yeah, i make those the best girl, i make em SO GOOD
her: *smiles/giggle
me: so youre here with your friends (stating the obvious idk why i do this)
her: yeah, bla bla
me: whats up guys *addressing friends but they dont even hear me lol i wasnt that loud
me: they dont even hear me i just dont exist to them, its just you and me <--- in my mind i was trying to create some roleplay of US, & then her friends just watching the olympics, separated from us, not really being social. But the way it came out it was more like i was excluding MYSELF out of her group or something.

Anyway the spark/convo quickly trail off and I get her name and tell her nice meeting her.

We go find my friend's girlfriend and me and Original Homie start talking with some girls. Not much noteworthy here but I'm not doing as much physical escalation here as I should be. I try doing the "extend hand for shake then pull back to haircomb" but it doesnt come off smooth cuz im wearing a hat. I point this out the girls laugh. These girls are just nervous I feel like any blatant physical escalation and theyd freak out. I need more subtlety.

It's one cup til we're up so I grab my homie who's talking to some chick. We get up there and are waiting for our game. Theres a hot little blonde playing at the table that I had seen before and she was staring at me and I told my homie about it. My homie (lets just call him J) says man smokings bad for you. 'Cuz we smell it pretty strong. I turn to the girl and im like "Yeah smoking's bad for you"
her: "Im not smoking"
me: "I know, just giving you some advice, some life advice"
her: :)
I start talking with the guys about who's got next game and whatnot when she budges in
her: So youre name's alex?
me: yeah..
her: bla bla did you work at xxxcamp this summer?
me: Yeah, what the fuck, how do you know that?
her: My grandma bla bla

Basically she tells her perspective of this story: How at camp I was really cool with her grandma and her whole family. Her grandma had told me that her granddaughter went to school here and was studying for her BAR exam for lawschool. I asked for her # and she was like let me make sure, so I took a picture with grams and she sent it to 25yrold granddaughter (hb25). And i guess she had sent grams a picture to send to me. Anyway she shows me the picture of me and her grandma lol.

her: so are you gona ask me out now? :)
me: Yeah. Fuck no im not gona ask you out. Im gona tell you we're goin out.
her: haha ok! all my grandma could talk about when she got back was how there was this really awesome guy at camp and how I need to go out with him!"
me: oh yeah babe? *I pull her in real close and start dancing with her "did she say she wanted us to dance, just like this" *pressing her body against mine

her: hahahaha, i bet you were like who is this girl and why is she staring at me
me: yeah I was kinda like ok i got a new stalker
her: hahahaha

she keeps saying stuff about how al her family could talk about after camp was how cool i was. Im like yeah ur g-ma said you were fun too so you better live up to it.
i grab her around her waist and pull her in more, just do physical stuff like that. i tell her we should take a picture to send to her grandma and she says no shes having a bad hair day, and that we'll take one tomorrow. 'cuz at one point im like lets get icecream tomorrow cuz she asks what im doing tomorrow i think.

at one point she brings shots for her boys i grab her hand like
me: i dont get one?
her: its their last night in town
me: aww hb 25555 :( ;)

she comes next to me and kind of apologizes for not getting me a shot earlier im like "its cool"

She keeps saying, "are you gona text me?"

I keep telling her yes, but she keeps asking, so i say alright ill text you now, shes like no do it when you want to. im like i want to now.
I say something like "ill do it to alleviate your distress"
her: oh 'cuz im so distressed ;)
me: yeah you are...
her: ..no im not
this wasnt the highest point of the interaction so i was kinda miffed that i had to play pong on this endnote but i thought whatever life's not perfect.
one small bump in the interaction isnt going to ruin all the good vibes we had before.

I buy some beers and get the table set up. I text her as we play

me: Hey beb guess who

she looks at me and giggles as she sends this text
her: You...

shes standing at the table on the other side by her guy friends, who i guess knew about this whole story about her grandma.

Anyway we play, lose by one cup. She's up next to play so i just tell her ill see her later.

The rest of the night gets foggier 'cuz i get drunker. I do remember seeing the stunner in the blue top again, in a set with some guys. I dont go in.
We go to the bar nextdoor. It's pretty packed. Outside we make conversation with some of my homie's friends, and run into a couple girls we know. Kinda. One of them ive definitely hung out with before, & she just liked my profile picture on fbook yesterday. the other one is new and supercute. One of the hottest girls of the whole night. We chat about how theyre almost 21 but were like going for a stroll outsdie im like "whhy didnt you invite us" i bring em all in for a group hug and tell them we're all getting icecream tomorrow. I grab my hottie's # and we go inside. I feel like its decently solid especially since there's that friend connection there.
I'll call her BlondeHottie.

***CONTINUED

We go inside and not much of note, I just practice.

There's a girl who I can't tell if I recognize or not. Turns out I do- she used to break into my house sophomore year and be there when I got home. Always calling me and like literally stalking me. She was obsessed with me but I think I was just too much of a jerk to her for her to feel comfortable being intimate with me. The most physical we ever got was me wrestling with her on my bed trying to make out with her and her like laughing hysterically.

Anyway, im talking to her and her friends. Looking back on this set I realize i looked at it like a "practice set" where I could just try different physical moves or just have fun with. But in reality the last few times ive seen this girl she had been all over me and I could have/should have just played it absolutely cool in this set. She would have done the work for me and her friends would have been all intrigued since she was into me. At any rate im dragging her other friend in and grabbing her by her forearms saying ridiculous shit in her ear. She's liking it but I don't pursue it it's just a strange situation 'cuz ol stalker girl who had a boner when i came over is now being like distant and protective of her friends and shit. They weren't very attractive anyway it's really whatever. I just want to point this out to myself:

I should not always be in "Supergame mode." In situations where its people from my past, or certain scenarios, I should recognize these AHEAD of time, and then act appropriately. If i would have been more chill in this situation I could have gotten all 3 of those girls to invest more.

I go downstairs and grab two girls dancing. I dont remember what i say but one laughs and the other blows me out. Go back upstairs and we go talk to this smokin hot bartender. She's taking our order asking what we want to chase tequila with and im like "You."

She like fidgets and blushes and looks down and says "Thanks" and I look down and laugh. We're talking to her and a bit later Im like "seriously youre fuckin pretty." she says thanks again and my homie asks her to have a drink with us. She says she cant unless its a $25 shot. My homie's like thats straight.
Im like "lmao, hold on, you should just chill with us sometime so we can buy you a drink thats not $25". Shes like "Ok thats cool"
then i tell my homie to do what he wants tho (i just didnt want him to make a decision he was gona regret) and he buys the shot.

Haha so she buys us a couple shots after that. Good times. I grab her # and ask "so when we gona kickit" she says hit her up tomorrow 'cuz shes proly going out.

Good deal. So after this, I go outside and theres this crew that comes through to my dad's bar. They're chilling there. It's one girl and two guys. One my last night in town before leaving I had been chilling with them at my dad's bar and then out at other bars for a bit. This girl was showing me MAD attraction that night, but i was like super out of it I dont even know what was wrong with me, and I couldnt even carry on a conversation with her. I wasnt nervous I was just super out of it and probably acting super weird. Anyway she's here now so I give em a group hug. Chat with homie and then ask her how shes doing, she says she has 4 jobs now,
me: WHAT?! 4 Jobs!! Tell me about em *I grab her hand and pull her into me so her hips against mine side by side. I do this pretty fast and she's like shocked
She moves back away, looks at her male friend, who doesnt meet her eyes, and then looks back at me,
her:.. its just.. a lot.
me: its a lot huh *i just look away now and wait for her to leave, chat a little more with the guy and then leave.

I think this is another example of some over-game shit. Like if i had done that the night before I left she would have fucking loved it. But i need to be able to read situations much better and precisely, and act accordingly to the specific vibe at the time.

This could also have to do with me being drunk.

You can ALSO come over the top and ignore all other social cues and paint your own. You're becoming good enough for this to be an option. Once she looked at homeboy and he puss'd out you OWNED that interaction, it was now yours. You could have dictated everything and just lead her even more into a funner and even more strange interaction. I do it constantly. I'm constantly having to just dismantle what's already there and start fresh.

@Manwhore:

8/8/12

I was reading shit online and my buddy called me. We had talked about going out but he decided he was just going over to his coworkers apt to chill. I'm down 'cuz I feel like being social. I get immediately the dude offers me tequila shots, they teach me to play euchre and we're just vibing having a good time. They're all cool and the girl who's apt it was was like come over 'anytime'. So thats cool.

8/9/12

My boy comes to pick me up to grab food. We go to the local health food place and when we walk in this cute girl who works there smiles at us super big and then looks away akwardly. Im like "did u just see that" he's like "yeah". So we get our food and eat. She's in the checkout line and I DONT talk to her as we leave. As we're walking out im like "Man, I need to step my game up. I should have just been yelling at that girl like 'yo girl lets get some donuts.'" He points out that i can still go back in im like FUCK yeah, hadn't even considered that lol. So I go back in, she's facing away and theres no customers in her line.

me: *clears throat "excuse me" *she doesnt notice im behind her
me: HEY
*turns around
her: Hey
me: Hey, do you like donuts?
her: yeah, i love donuts
me: you wana go get some later?
her: *laughing "are you asking me out?? :)"
me: NO, im not asking you out, just asking if you wana get some donuts. Maybe some bearclaws.
her: *laughs, customers are in line "let me answer you in a second
So i wait for her to check them out and she's like
her: Well I get off work at 8, and then bla bla

Basically she said she was gona hang out with friends later, we shot the shit a little and I got her #. There was some SLIGHT hesitation on giving me her #, which was because I didnt just give her my phone, which is what I usually do. But good to note. One thing I also noticed was that, when we were talking, it definitely felt RUSHED. Like i need to fucking CHILL and speak with proper pacing, and take my time like I do on my MW drills, voicemails, phonecalls etc. For some reason when you're face to face in the moment with a cutie I just wana like spill my fucking heart out lmao. But yeah, DEFINITELY a HUGE thing I need to work on.

Anyway we go to target and as I get out Im like ok the new rule is if there's a hot girl I have to talk to her (thanks Katalyst/Buddha I forget which one of yall I was reading about doing this).

So as we're walking in these 3 girls walk in front of us. Im like "Yo, I like that tie dye." She very meekly turns around to make eye contact. Her gf's look back too.
me: Yeah so did you make it?
her: Yeahh
me: Well its tight I like it. I just made some this summer with blue, purple, green, yellow... All the BEST colors
them: *giggling like looking back a tiny bit but kind of avoiding eye contact with me

I swear to god girls are so effing cute. Totally little scared rabbits that I want to fuck the shit out of.

I instantly start talking more
me: So did you make that at home, or at a camp?
her: Uhm I think I made it at home...

At this point we're in the store and they start to like slow down and group huddle together. I just let the set die.

Once we're out of earshot my boy tells me that it was awesome, he said they were "cheesing hard" after I told them about what colors I use, and then I just kept going and it was just too much. I was like THANK YOU for pointing that out my man. 'Cuz i really feel like this is my biggest problem right now. We talked about it and its like I need to let them FEEL that emotion that Ive just given them. Its like if I come out with more shit they dont even have time to process those good emotions they're having. And aside from that I probably come across like a psycho lol. I need to give them that space. APPRECIATE the silence. And besides that be aware of my pacing in person. It's a lot easier to be aware of on the phone, than when you're worrying about logistics, body language, dealing with the environment and all other types of shit in person. Anyway though I was really glad he brought this to my attention. He's not in to "game" like I am but he's got a good eye when it comes to this stuff. Pretty natural dude.

So we keep walking and see the tennis balls. Some are in bags some are in cans and Im telling him I dont get why they do that, since I thought they were in cans to prevent deflation. I see a girl walking by our isle making a phone call and i walk up to her with the bag.

me: Hey, I need your opinion real quick. What do you think is better, balls in bags, or balls in the can.
her: *stunned for a second but actually takes her phone away from her ear "....Uhmmm I dont know i actually never really played tennis...
me: *im looking at her basket cuz i thought i had seen some sports shit in there which i was going to bring up but i guess not
her: Sorry!

So we go toward the checkout line and this girl in a striped shirt is walking toward us with her phone up to her ear. I dont open her like a bitch. She smiles at us. My boy calls me out HARD on it which is awesome. He's like "why didn't you talk to her bro she was FINEE!!!" im like "man i know, when i get in my head and wonder what to say it fucks me up. I just need to be like "STRIPES ARE MY FAVORITE!" *pointing at her.

Yeah that would have been sick.

So we're in the checkout line theres 2 girls with their dad behind us and I see a TV in their cart.
me: Thats a PURCHASE right there ;)
girls and their dad laugh, but the dad smiles at me and he's like "Yeah, it is"
me:... Is that for like.. your dorm room? *I adress the girl closer to me
her: Yeah, actually :)
me: Oh thats cool, where are you staying? *I assume she's going to go here since we live in a bigten college town
her: Im actually going to Purdue
me: Oh.... Well then what're you doing here! haha
her: I'm actually from here

Since im from here too we discuss which high school we went to. She asks when I graduated I say a few years ago. She's like "I'm sure it hasn't changed much :)"

^Thats an IOI right there boys ;)

im like "yeah probably not :)"

The dad is like smiling at me super big, and so is the girl. As my boy and I leave I'm like, "Well, enjoy your.. College experience!"
My back is turned to them at this point but I can hear them laughing like a lot more than that was even funny. They obviously thought I was cool...

Not trying to toot my own horn here but HONESTLY that dad probably would have been happy if I had gotten one of his daughter's phone #'s. It's just crazy for me though 'cuz im not used to hitting on girls when their parents are around.

I dont know what the best way would have been to do it. Maybe like, "well hey I tell you what, if you're in town for a bit longer maybe we could get some Jiffy treat, one last time before you leave. Share some stories one panther to another :)"

That probably would have worked.

As we're opening the car a cutie walks by im like "YOOOOOO" shes like "Hey" but I dont pursue.

For her I coulda been like "GIRL, you're cute. Let's go get a gatorade later"

ANYTHING the point is, I'm definitely glad I took action today. But missing out on opportunities is for pussies. This shit is about to get real when I literally don't let a hot girl pass by without communicating in some form or another that I think she's fucking hot and I want to put my dick inside her.

And for the tiedye girls, what I should have done was let them breath after I got them giggling, walked in and then been like "Well, lets make some tie dyes this week. Ive got dye at my house, itll be awesome"

etc. If I had made it SO convenient, it would be MORE akward for them to say no, than to say yes. Like "C'mon girl it'll be fun! All of you can come and we'll all make tie dye. What's really cool too is making pants. Some of my friends did that this summer and they turn out AMAZINGG!

literally just sending that shit home.

But cool, main thing i need to work on is PACING, and allowing SPACE in the interaction. ALLOWING SILENCE. Not plowing futilely like a maniac

You are now a player in the game

Fuck yeah.

Alex- you are becoming a man. You are welcome to come hit it with me when you're in NY. I never got back to you but I remember you PM'ing me something about coming out... wait for me to get back out there.

...

I will warn you though, I do NOT expect "Results"... BUT- I do expect action. You will have the time of your life and get to fuck the girls you deserve. Keep it up dude. Love your progress.

Just remember- ALWAYS ALWAYS ALWAYS hit up the HOTTEST girls... You literally deserve NOTHING less.

@buddhagames:

Thanks that's awesome to hear. Youre an inspiration man, I would love to hit it up with yall.

8/9/12 cont.

So I go to my dad's bar downtown to eat dinner. I have a drink there and text Nerdybutt girl. A girl who I met before I left. Her response is super down and shes at a bar I was going to anyway. On the way theres a couple girls and im trying to analyze if its a daughter/mother or what but by the time i realize its two fairly attractive females I just dont open them. What I need to do is NOT think and be like "HEY!" from farther away like Todd says in his videos.

Anyway theres also a semi-cute indian girl thats with a bunch of indians that I walk past. I still have issues approaching groups like this and going direct. I could have gone less direct and been like 'hey what part of the world are you from" or some shit. This girl wasnt stunning but still a chink in my armor that i need to polish..

Im like wtf to myself that I didnt approach those sets so I start clapping my hands and yelling shit. Getting my "WOO!" on. I just chat with anyone else I see on the way there. I get in and walk right up to a girl im friends with who is with a girl and a guy. I ask her if she wants a drink and then turn to look at the other girl who she introduces me to. I totally ignore the guy. She asks who im here with bla bla. Im like ok thats cool ill see you later she says shell text me tomorrow she'll be out.

I get a water long island and walk up to two girls. "Is that a water long island?"
her: yeah it is
me: cool i have the same shit

Turns out they know my dad 'cuz they're his tenants. Im like cool we're all one big family and go in to hug both of them. My drink spills a little down one of their backs lol im like sorryy and i wipe the back of her arm off with my hand.

We chat and one of their friends comes up and im like "Who're YOU" giving her some attitude. Its funny she likes it and plays along. They were on their way out and I grab one of their #s saying they should come to my dads bar while im working

Go out to back patio. Im looking for my nerdybooty. walk up to these two girls

me: "Is your name nerdbutt?"
her: *laughing "noo"
me: ok im looking for my friend bla bla

I run into a female acquaintance who opens me. Im like not trying to talk to her and leave. I do a lap.

See another high school acquaintance. A guy. We talk a bit I tell him how I was out of town and whatnot. He's sitting with a fucking STUNNER and got his hand on her leg, kind of sitting in a postition where hes got ownership over her body like Manwhore talks about (almost like the seatbelt). Ive met this girl before and pulled her and her friends into bottle service. Imo she's one of the hottest girls thats FROM around the area we live. (tons of college kids come in from everywhere).

We talk about shit besides how hot his girl is but we're both smiling and he knows exactly what im thinking.

I walk some more. I dont remember everything I feel like I opened tons of girls tonight. Im outside and I open a set using the line i made earlier

me: Yo girl, stripes are my favorite color
her: *looks down at her striped dress

its 3 girls and a guy and its akward so I just vomit english all over them about me being at target and using that line and colors and bullshit. They open up more. I do the haircomb move on one of the girls. I feel like something about the way im doing it isnt completely on. Like i need to make eye contact WHILE im doing it and theres a certain douchey look i need to plaster on my face. Anyway im talking to one of the girls and accidentally touch her boob when im trying to grab her hand

her: WOWW.... *laughing
me: my fault, damn
her: *turning away from me w the vibe like "that was too much buddy"
me: I mean if i was going to really grab a feel i wouldnt have done it with my fucking FINGERNAIL

she starts laughing a bunch. Idk i feel like I kind of suck at building on my physical escalation. Like im definitely doing kino, but, idk it just doesnt come off SUPER smooth.

I leave the set for whatever reason. See hbGrandma and we give each other sort of lukewarm hello i hug her with one arm. I talk with her and friend shes telling the story about me and her grandma. Some people join theyre group she announces theyre going inside cuz its raining i tell her ill see her later. Open some other sets, one of the girls in one is actually married to another dude in the set. She's the one i wanted.

I go to the front patio and theres a girl at a 2 person table with the chair across from her empty. I asked if her date ditched her. She said her boyfriend was getting their drinks. She was lame anyway and I see 2 girls that I had talked to earlier. Im like "HEY I STILL HAVENT FOUND MY FRIEND" theyre laughing and one of them says i must not be very good friends with her. Im like "I only met her once fuck her im comin over to meet you guys ;) "

Theyre laughing and I pull up a chair. Im between them and theyre making fun of me for this girl not being real. I tell em yeah i just do that same routine every night so I can talk to girls. Theyre like really im like of course not. Somehow we're talking about friendship and i grab both their hands and kiss them at the same time saying we can all be really good friends. One of the girls is like losing it and the other one is like "your so weird!" giggling uncontrollably. Im like if by weird you mean fuckin gangster then yah.

We keep talking she doesnt believe im from this town she thinks im from the east coast. I find out they both have boyfriends. I tell em we should go get drinks at the bar but they want to just stay. Eventually I leave. One of their boyfriends is coming over and it just didnt look promising.

The only escalation i did was like poking one of them in the side and grabbing their hands at different points and stuff. Shit definitely needs improvement.

Theres a couple girls standing at a table, I go up like
me: OMGOSHhh whatre you so excited about?!
her: Im not excited
me: Yeah, you were I saw you just now. C'mon I want the good vibes too
her: bla bla

I see a hot girl coming this way and stop talking to them and stand in her way. I just stare her down and she looks at me and I realize ive met her before. I talk to her and her friend and take em to the bar to get drinks. We're vibing and we keep talking about dance parties 'cuz last time i saw them we had one. So theyre like lets go do the touchtunes. They take way too long doing it and I leave/tell em ill be back. See Grandma again and grab her hand. I dont even remember what context this was in but she turns to her friend and is laughing, then looks back up at me smiling. I dont even remember what I said but I leave again. She's like in her little lawschool group and im not trying to join into that.

I do some random shit, texting Nerdybutt and she says shes at the next bar so I go there. Theres like no one there & i dont see her. Talk to some bartenders in there tho. Good shit I want to become friends with all of them. So i leave, & head to another bar. On the way FJ pulls up right in front of me. He gets out and we're both wearing crisp white tees that we just opened. It was funny cuz u could see the creases on em. He comes upstairs with me, its shit so we go back to the original bar. We walk in and see hbAbby, the sister of FJ's ex girlfriend. What is FUCKED up right here is that hbAbby is fucking smoking. Easily a 9 by the standards of the girls that go to school here. But ive flirted with her pretty hard before and she was digging it. But for some reason because FJ was here, and I know he fucks lots of hot girls and is somehow like connected with this girl ('cuz she's his ex's sister) I acted like a fucking PUSSYYYYY and broke eye contact with her instantly, looking at her shoulders to see if SHE was going to go for the hug. When in reality. Its like FUCK THAT SHIT im hugging your ass cuz I want to feel your fine ass titties all over me and that's that. Geezus

So I was thinking about it and that's fucked up. Because I dont want to overstep some boundary that I made up in my head & doesnt make sense, while FJ is around, I basically fucked my chances with this girl because I acted like a huge pussy instead of just acting on my desires. GAY SHIT.

hahaha, not going to beat myself up about it tho I should just do more eye contact drills and be more of a man.

gona add more to this later its too long

Bro that's your dad's bar. You need to act like you have the biggest fucking dick in the place. You own it. You walk up to girls like "Why hello.. welcome to my establishment. What the fuck do you think you're doing here?"

@Manwhore:

Ok so I'm still gona add shit to my post from the other night.

But before I do here's today's

8/11/2012

I go to grab food after the gym at the same healthfood spot as the other day.

I walk in and see this cutie at the cashier who camped at my camp this summer.

me: Hey!! youre from xxcamp!
her: Yeah! bla bla are you glad to be back
me: Haha yeah... It was an amazing experience but my boss's were kinda.. *yikes face
her: yeah...

So i chat with her and find out that she goes to the high school I went to, this is her senior year. She wants to be an international business & marketing major and said she would end up going to my University if she doesnt get into whatever school she's applying to. The convo kind of lulls so im like "So what're you doing tonight?"
her: Umm, I have to go home for dinner
me: Is your mom cooking something delicious?
her: Yeah my stepmom is
me: Thats cool, what about after dinner, what are you doing?
her: Uhmm just having some friends over
me: Cool. WELL, do you wana hangout sometime?

^Ok this is probably the worst question to ever ask girls and I already know this. It's like engrained in me for some reason to ask rather than say, "cool, well lets hangout sometime"

so she noticeably got colder here after I said that. I just interrupt her and im like "Yeah, we should hangout sometime. Go get icecream or something" I whip out my phone and give it to her. She puts her # in. I get her last name and she's like "..Ok... cya.." SUPER fucking lukewarm/not invested at all lmao. im like "Yeah ill text you"

So i go to get food. I ask the people there where they get their meat from and they go to find out. While im waiting this CUTE girl in a pink dress wanders over. She's with her dad. If she hadnt been with him I would have opened 100%. But it just made me in my head the fact he was there. I dont want to come off super disrespectful and shit in front of parents.... and all i could think of was direct openers.

So I go to eat. I eat my food and after I go find my girl who is bagging groceries and she actually smiles at me this time

her: Byee!
me: Hey, has school started for you yet?
her: It starts on monday
me: Ok, cuz *I look around making sure her bosses arent like right next to me, bc some girls have freaked out before when I invite them to parties, or say anything about drinking in this kind of situation. Also im not projecting here b/c like i said i dont want her bosses to hear me.
me: Ok, cuz my friend's throwing a party on tuesday--
her: *before i even finish my sentence she just starts shaking her head
me: It's during the day though
her: *still shaking her head "I cant"
me: You could come after school or something
her: I cant
me: Why not?
her: Because im studying for the SAT's and stuff
me: Oh, are you taking a class for it?
her: No, just studying
me: Oh. Ok well good stuff, keep it up!

I should have given her a patronizing pat on the back as I said this and added "kiddo" or "champ" at the end to make her feel like a loser.

Anyway lately I've been getting at the very least semi-positive responses from girls, so when she got all cold after I was like we should hangout I was kind of like, "huh?"

It didn't effect my state. I wasnt in "state" to begin with but it didnt bring me down. It's just like.... ok......

I don't know what to text her now 'cuz she was basically like "No" to my invitation. She didnt even let me finish the invitation lmao.

So if you guys have any input here that would be tight.

ALSO, how do you guys approach girls who are with their mom/dad? <---THIS is something I NEED to improve I find myself running into these situations on a regular basis.

@Alex123:

For the cashier girl, Im thinking bout waiting til maybe 8pm or so and texting:

(Btw Larry was the chef at camp and "bugjuice" is what we call the fruitpunch there)

me: I'd love to see a chef-off between your stepmom & Larry. If you don't clean yer plate tonight I'm telling...Lol don't worry it's not a fair battle, he puts crack in the bugjuice ;b

Fucker do your drills what the hell was that # close haha.

And yes if a girl can't show up to a party you can subtly show in your vibe that she doesn't make the cut but are willing to work with her, haha

I'd love to see a chef-off between your stepmom & Larry the chef. If you don't clean yer plate tonight I'm telling...

@Manwhore:

8/11/2012 night report

So these are getting way too detailed and there's way too much stuff to write everything that happened. Im just writing up what I feel were the most important interactions or parts that will further growth by reflecting on.

Im chilling at a friends' downtown we roll to the bars. Say whatup to my dude who's a bartender but isnt working. We're talking about shit and we dap up I'm leaving and he grabs me and asks me if I want a drink. We go to the bar, meet his friends, we're chilling/vibing.

Its money getting better friendships with guys who have presence in these places, 'cuz basically, there's 3 main bars in this town that everyone goes to. 2 of them are right next to each other and you'll see the same people all the time 'cuz its all college students. It feels like houseparties.

So we're kicking it and take a lap around the place just having a good time amping each other up and stuff. I go in and see hbAbby. The 9 I wrote about in my last report.

She immediately smiles big and opens her arms out wide. I just want to say here that when I saw how happy she was to see me, it made me super fucking happy. Lmao, I know thats lame and "reactive," but wanted to make note of it because I DONT have the control over my emotions that I want to have. And when a girl that is basically a 10 in my eyes throws herself into my arms with big eyes like that ya it kind of made my day. God im gay

Anyway it's clear im too invested in this chick from the following:

We have a gigantic hug and then let go and like keep hugging more 'cuz it just feels good lmao, we hugged like 3 or 4 times within 30 seconds, anyway she goes somewhere with her sister. Im chillin doing my thing saying whatup to people, and I wander over and see her talking with a friend of mine and her sister. I just walk up and listen to what they're talking about for a second but realize i dont give a fuck and talking is gay. I turn to her

Me: Hey
Her: Hey
me: *lean into her ear like im bout to tell her something "...I dunno"
her: Hahaha, great secret
me: Haha I know...... I wana tell you something, but.. Idk how you'll feel if I do ----->The beginning of the gayness/placing her on a pedastal/treating her different from other girls bc I "know" her and we have friends in common and shit
her: *weird look on face
me: Yeah, bla bla <--- fuck i dont remember what was said here but it probably wasnt too important, all i can remember is wanting to tell her "you have, very, very nice curves" and like accentuate what im talking bout with my hands. but i pussed out

"i didnt want to fuck things up" (sound familiar?) because we share the same friends and stuff. Gayness

So I save the conversation and focus really hard on speaking to her in a way that she KNOWS i want to fuck her badly. Like projecting and using authority and through my, intent? Idk it's kind of abstract and i dont remember this part of the conversation, just how I carried myself, but I basically blocked off the other two and it was just us in our little bubble close to each other. Call Me Maybe comes on & I grab her by her forearms like Manwhore :D and tell her about how me and my boys dressed up like girls this summer and danced around to this song and how all i could think about was how i wished she was there so she could see how i was sexy as fuck in a dress. She like bends her head down and is laughing super hard while im doing this, but, I let go when im done talking and I think back away slightly (another symptom of me not wanting to get a bad reaction infront of her sister? idk proly)

So there were a couple MAJOR problems here:

instead of keeping her with me, and then moving my hands to cup her elbows, and then bring her even closer into me like manwhore talks about in his video, I let go, and backed away slightly.
These was also a symptom of the fact that I barely made eye contact with her throughout this exchange... Lmfao.

Like because I was focusing so much on my voice and physicality, and Im apparently intimidated by this girls' hotness and the fact that shes in my social circle, I didnt make eye contact at CRITICAL points. I also need to do my eye contact drills i havent been doing them at all.

What's funny is that if I HAD been making eye contact, I wouldn't have even had to worry as much about the content of what i was saying, bc my eyes would have been doing the work for me.

Anyway I had horrible eye contact and I didn't control her body/vibe enough in the interaction. We stop talking for a second and I listen to what the other 2 are saying again. I turn back to her

me: Theyre talking about school. Thats lame as FUCK
her: I know. Do you wana go take a shot?
me: Yeah

So i follow her to the outside bar and she stands against it and calls the bartender over. I ask her what she likes to drink i forget what she says we get tequila.

I have both of my arms on either side of her as I stand sort of behind her/to her right. But her body is right infront of me. I take one of my hands off the bar tho bc "i dont want to make her feel uncomfortable." Geezus

So we're waiting for the liquor and all i can think about is how hot she is. He brings me the bill, and for some reason i thought she had invited me so i didnt know if she thought i was paying or what so i said
me: are you getting it or am i
her:...
me: if you get it ill take you out for icecream
her: I dont want icecream
me: Yeah you do, haha, Ill get it

So i pay and im in my head and i start telling her about how Im gona take her to McDonalds
her: McDONalds..... *like wtf really
me: Yeah, and im gona get like 5 Mcflurries, and Im gona smash em ALL before your even done eating yer chicken nuggets girl
her: *laughs a little
me: And ima be like girl, you need to get a bigmac too 'cuz i wana see you put some meat on those bones girl
her: *silence

I talk to some guys right by us that I semi blew off earlier and one of her friends comes and like takes her away while im talking to them. I woulda been like "wait, where are you going babe we just took a shot" but i felt like i had already killed the interaction by not making eye contact with her and not even projecting my voice enough during the McDonalds story

I figure ill get another chance later. But yeah this was the primary interaction that I remember this night,

the rest is fuzzy I should have wrote this earlier and I drank a lot.

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One last thing: when a girl is standing against a bar and looking at it and you're like behind her, is the correct thing to do just turn her around?

There's probly no one answer to this i just dont think she would have been cool with my rubbing my dick on her ass just yet

She invited you for shots then made you pay for it? And why did the bartender hand you the bill and if he did why did you TAKE the bill. You handled that not like a boss. And not good eye contact? C'mon sex panda.

@Alex123:

8/12/12 Daytime

Me and my homie go to the campus gym. We get up to two girls at the cardscanners and i realize i dont have my card.

I tell the girls I dont have my card, they ask if im a student,
me: Yeah I go to class everyday like a good ass student
them: kinda giggling
me: Are you going to be wonderfully sweet girls and let me through
them: giggling
me: Ill tell youre boss you guys are amazing ;)
them: We're sorryyyyy we canttt we turned other people down today and that wouldnt be faiirr

So go back to my house to get my card. Otw back im like, "i should have just been like "THANK YOU, ladies ;) You guys are AWESOME" and walked in on a high point in the interaction. They wouldn't have done shit

Anyway as we're walking up to the building when we get back theres a hottie lying down on a bench, cant really see her face so im about to not talk to her and my buddy gives me a little push toward her, so i go:

me: Hey :)
her: Heey :)
me: How is your day going, today

(Im noticing these daytime convo's are starting to sound/flow more naturally. I wrote the other day that the convo felt rushed. Well this one didnt today

her: Goood, what about yours? :)
me: Man you wouldnt believe we just had to go all the way back home 'cuz i didnt have my card. * i kinda act out what i should have done i.e. just walking through
her: noo, they wouldnt have let you they're so strict I work here bla bla (they totally would have tho)


Me: Yeah? Would they like call the cops on me.
Me: You.. You wouldve arrested me woudnt you.. And you wouldve searched me..
Her: ;) searched your body (playing along with the sexual undertones of the conversation that ive created
me: yeah you wouldve ;)

she starts asking questions.

her: So who are you guys?
her: Where do you guys live?
her: DO you guys go to school here?
her: What year are you in school?

This was really cool, I feel like my vibe was so chill here, that I just came off as a confident guy that just wanted to talk to her cos shes hot. So she wanted to know more about me

when she asks about my new apt im like
me: You're gona love it when you come over
her: So you know im coming over huh? :)*naughty eyes
me: yeah
She asks where it is and i tell her and shes like "thats far!"
me: no, its not that far, we'll get there super fast in my car
her: Oh we will huh? :) *same sexy eyes
me: yeah

blabla bla
me: so where do you live at
her: *points to sorority thats right by us and her tshirt shes wearing lmao facepalm
me: oh haha duh.
her: Yeah you can come by any time!
me: yeah, do you guys have an icecream machine?
her: Yeah but theres never any icecream in it :(
me: ok, ill bring over the ingredients
her: Youll bring over the ingredients??
me: Yeah
her: Ok!!
me: Do you guys have hbo?
her: Yeah!
me: Ok good.

We keep talking and i take out my phone in the middle of it and give it to her
her: are you asking me for my num?
me: Well i need your number so we can make icecream
her: Idk if this is a good idea.. I have a boyfriend, I dont want to like, be getting texts from you while im with him... *shes kind looking at me for encouragement to do so but still putting her # in
me: Tell him to shut up
her: No!! I love him.
me: He can bring us our icecream ;)
her: Haha, noo

I go in for a hug and shes like
her:.Im not gona hug you,
me: *slowly put my arms down
her: Well ok its a friendly gesture
*hug
Im like later but shes like "Ill walk you guys in"

We start walking in and i ask her what class she teaches in the gym. She says cpr and i tell her i had to do that this summer, and she says thats too bad she couldve taught me and im like yeah we couldve done mouth to mouth.
her: yeah

we go inside and i get my card scanned but my boy is like waiting for her idk she went behind a corner for a second so i chill. They come back thru the scanners and i ask her where her class is she teaches she says its downstairs by the boys lockerroom

me: you like hanging by the boys lockerroom huh ;)
her: yeah so i can look at you ;).... *i think she like gets confused here in her head
her: but wait this was just a friendly gesture..
me: yeah i dont wana take things any further with you than theyve already gone ;)
her: Ohhwww :) *in this kinda coy voice

I head toward my direction and tell her goodluck in her class


hahaha she played along with every sexual thing i said. She was actually like hanging on to my every word, way more invested than i've been getting girls to be during the day recently. and she wanted to keep talking to us after we hugged and i was like cya.

This was definitely cool and i feel like a little step-up in my daytime stuff.

I havent texted this girl yet. i asked my friend to give me feedback on the interaction and he thought I should wait til i see her there next time and go from there, and become friends with her so I can invite her and her friends to parties/out. Not a bad idea bc she probably has cute friends (shes hot) and she has a boyfriend.

What do you guys think? And if you DO think I should text her, what should i text?

@Manwhore:

yeah, MW, she totally invited me to get a shot. Would you have just been like, "youre buying this babe you invited me"

like wtf. yeah the bartender totally just handed me the bill and the social pressure was on for me to buy the shot when i had absolutely no intention of doing that

Corecto

That's not social pressure bro. That's child's play

Imagine being all "big" about it. WHOA man! She invited ME! Why you giving me the bill, bro!? We gotta stick together! *wink* C'mon buttercup these shots are all you!

@Manwhore:

So I just got done doing laundry 'cuz these girls were covered in pudding.
Im drunkish/high right now but here goes
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Wakeup and go to get my dad a new phone 'cuz he bought one that sucks. I work with him today from 11 something til 5pm. He's really stressed out all day. We're taking shit that old tenants left out of houses, trying to get ready for the new tenants etc. That is what he does he's a self-employed property manager. Most of the houses are occupied by students attending the same school as me.

So he's fucking stressed out 'cuz its the most stressful time of year and people are BLOWING him up about shit and we have over a ton of shit in his trailer.
It made me kinda stressed out but i tried to not let it effect me.

I go to eat in the middle of the day. And don't approach 2 different girls that i wanted to- they were both with their parents. Then otw to my dad's bar theres a cutie w headphones on walking oposite direction from me that i dont see til im in the middle of the street, and i miss her too. Im like whatever- i find excuses like the fact that im looking raggedy- it was in the middle of the street so i couldnt have stopped her, theres certain time for game, and times not for game (i was otw to meet this pest control guy at my dad's bar & i had to be there to open the bar.) Gay.

We finally get done at 5- thats when pudding wrestling started so im like goddammit 'cuz i wanted to be there earlier, but i go home, shower, do mw drills, eat, grab drank(bottle), and tell my friend J to meet me outside xdorm nearby where the party is 'cuz i forgot where it was exactly and i wanted to try and recruit some girls to come to it

So i roll there.
***
I walk upstairs in the courtyard, cutie walking w maybe 4 ppl.

me: Yo-oooo (downward tonation *During this i was having thoughts in my head about how i didnt approach girls earlier in the day

Her: *turns to me "Hey" *keeps walking in her set past me, but slows down to respond
Me: How's your day going
Her: Its good, how about yours? *walkng away frm me with group
Me: Good, did you just move in today?
her: yeah i did, but I actually dont live here
me: Oh yeah, where'd you move into?
her: xdorm
me: Oh thats cool, couple of my real good buddies used to live there.
Her: Cool
*we're at the door that her set was heading to now and she's walkng in with her group*
Her: *asks group logistical questions-who theyre meeting/where
Me: Hey *taps on arm
Her: *ignore
Me: Hey *taps arm
Her: *ignore, goes in

I walk thru to the other end of Courtyard, 2 girls come out one's wearing our school sweater.

Me: Hey, Nice sweater :) *from like 20+ feet away as theyre heading in another direction
Her: *looks* :)) Thannks!

I dont pursue they go in the building. Head up to street, to a bunch of girls, few guys, but they go seperate ways, I dont chase either group

Theres a girl who I noticed on the way in thats really cute waiting outside w a Uhaul

Me: *wait til i get maybe 5 ft away from her as im walking* "You need a Uhaul for your dorm room :)?
Her: ..Ha yeah
Me: :) What do you have like BUNKbeds and stuff in there.
Her: Yeahhh, we have a lot of stuff bla bla bla
*theres a girl sitting on a right by us*
Me: Oh her?
Her: Oh no, my brother's inside. *i thought that was weird she said her brother 'cuz i thot she was talking bout her roommate but they must just be twins and staying in different rms or something
Me: *puzzled look "Oh yeah? Where are you guys from
Her: Chicago * Her mom comes up addresses her and is like "Heyyyy" to me, and they start talking about who's grabbing what to take inside.

I could tell she was like embarrassed when her parents came over/wanted to keep talking cuz she gave her mom a lot of attitude. Unless she's always like that but I read like she was annoyed w her mom for interrupting. Positivity mang

So basically, I wander off like a feyg, Pretend im talking on my cellphone to see if her parents leave but they all end up going inside.

I call J and tell him to meet me in the back. Heading there Theres 2 girls standing by a doorway waiting for someone to let them on

Me: *20 ft away right as i notice their bout to look my direction "I KNEW you guys didn't live here :)"
Girls: *Silence
Me: I KNEWww you guys were imposters ;)
Her: Why do u not live here?
Me: No

They ask what im doing i just cut to the chase 'cuz i know theyre bout to be let in real soon *right girls makin moves on phone
Me: Whater you guys doing tonight
Her: We have a soccer game
Me: Wait you guys are in it or going to it??
Her: *laughs "No we're going to it
Me: 'Cuz i was gona say you guys dont look like ur dressed for SOCCER *smile look both of them upn down
Girls: *weak laughs

She asks what im doing i tell them im going to a pudding wrestling party, theyre kind of surprised/stunned by this, and ask where it is a few times

Me: Yeah do you guys wana come? *the friend found out where theyre going so she starts leaving telling my girl to follow
Her: Yeah, maybe.
Me: Well, you should like text me later.
*eyecontact*
Her: Here ill just give you my number
*whip out phone/eye contact broken, give her phone, she enters digis*
Me: What was your name?
Her: x. Yours?
Me: *takes hand "cool, Alex"

tell her ill txt her later shes like ok n heads off with friend. Didn't feel like it was solid after i got it (no investment)

I meet my dude in back and we roll out to pudding party.
***
Walk up there say whatup to some wrestlers I havent seen in a while. Theyre all naturals and throw the sickest house parties iv been to. (frat parties r unfair since theyre castles/ cant get busted etc.

So I post up in the back kind of and introduce myself to some people, pull out my jim beam/redbull at a table where im out of the way of pudding getting all over me.
Mingle, my buddy arrives, mingle, go up to porch. Cute girl in black next to me,

Me: *turn toward her, hand of god
Her: :) Hey, whats your name?
Me: Alex, :)whats your name ?

I cant understand her name like the first 3x she says it and give up. Shes like its ok im japanese. Im like lightly touching her arm, waist, back, at various points as i come into her to try and understand what shes saying.

I break from her to watch these chicks wrestling in thongs trying to take each others tops off. I whip out my iphone and record it

Turn back to her and speak alil Japanese to her

*In japanese:
Her: Ohh you speak Japanese
Me: A lil Japanese :)
Her: Ohhh
Me: Im fluent :)
*Engish

Her: Oh really??? :)
Me: Haha no im just fucking around. I did a study abroad program over there *I get too excited talking to girls sometimes and forget to pay attention to my pacing. I feel like if i talked to her in a hypnotic way like i do in my drills, i could have had her hypnotized, but its like im in a rush sometimes to get out what i want to say*

^good to note

She asks what part i tell her, shes like omg! my mom bla bla (i forget her story
Me: Thats really cool :)
her: :))

We talk about her dorm which is a hippie/alternative dorm with weird kids (no offense), shes like yeahh i dont like the ppl in there that much.
I vibe with her on this cuz i dont really like the kids from there ive met much either theyre mostly burnouts imo with do real drive to excel.

Me: Well atleast ur not like "IM FROM XDORMM!!!" *like its a good thing
Her: Hahaha yeahh, i dont really like the ppl there.
me: kinda remidns me of hogwarts,
her: yeahh bla bla its like the cheapest dorm too
me: oh i didnt know that bla bla

We talk a lil more about who she knows here etc. I guess she only knows one guy here, wrestler she went to prom with. Shes a freshman.

I break from convo again. Watch. I basically get drunk here and finish my redbull.
Since i was taking pulls on the bottle i probly drank more than i thought i did in that amount of time.

I basically chill with J and we're talking about how awesome this pudding wrestling is. Lmao, everyone is its the first time these guys have done it. So I talk to more people take a shot with a couple wrestlers I know, find the dude that invited me he's like its really good to see you man. He doesnt want shots and 'cuz hes been wrestling and hes already really drunk. I take shots with acouple girls. Theyre like wearing thongs, covered in pudding and their asses are hanging out and im grabbing the hotter ones ass a lil but not too much(more like hips area) lol 'cuz her boyfriends nearby.

but she gave me no resistance to having my hands on her hips/thong

I get her pudding all over my shirt. The picures with em im making retarded faces wtvr theyre hot

I text the girl i met outside the dorm earlier:

Me: Bet ur soccer game cant beat puddng extravaganza *im looking at the pic now- not the one i meant to send its not an action shot- wtvr
Her: Bet it can
Me: Yeah right
-no response
I shoulda said "wtvr"

I go into the kitchen and stand by the bathroom 'cuz i need to piss theres 2 girls inthere im like

"C'mon girls HURRY UP i know you guys r makin out in there!
girls: Sorry were coming out *2 hotties come out
Me: Hey :)) *grab hotter ones arm
Her: Heyy! >:o *like dont grab me

haha i go inside and piss i hear a girl outside being like "Whos in theree"

Me: IM COMING OUT GIRL DONT WORRY GIRLL
Me: *come out lean in doorway like a sex object "I heard you were lookin for me girl ;)"
Her: Can I just USE the bathroom *pissed

I move out of the way
Me: Yeahh, JEEZEE, have a sense of humor *as she goes in

Shit kinda put me in my head not gona lie

Another sexygirl comes in.

Theyre talking bout sports i ask if she plays sports, they make me guess then tell me ping pong and i beleive it, then she's like no i actually play softball. She was friendly
Me: Yeah, *steps real close to her "Softballs kinds sexy :)
*her friend like girlcodes her and immediately drags her into the bathroom. She's like "im going to the bathroom!

I basically go outside after this and just post up outside in lawnchairs with my homie and watch these girls wrestling each other in thongs/pudding. Idk how i dont even get a boner but its fucking cool

I kind of feel like fag after this because I didnt "push myself as hard as I could have" tonight/day.

But realizing as I'm writing this out(i looked at buddha's phone interview thread earlier)- I am fucking happy either way.

I feel like partying with these guys, I shouldn't necessarily be PUSHING my game anyway. I mean if I really went ham and all i cared about at these things was hooking up with girls i could/would fuck myself over bc i would get blown TOO hard by some girl, or whatever. I want to actually bring hot girls to these guys' events 'cuz I want to ADD value for them, and be boys with them. Not beast HARD on their girls uncalibrated, and get blown out and kicked out and shit... ill save that for girls at the bars/random girls.

Basically, in reiteration of what Buddhagames said in his thread, I feel like i am on the path to success in this. Before I started MW drills, I would have been way too pussy to go outside a dormitory and holler at girls by myself. I would not have had the confidence to implement the rule "talk to every hot girl i see"

(obviously i havent been sticking to this 100% but c'mon i just started and still make excuses sometimes (parents being one of the major ones)

Also at the bars, and other places like this gathering, I'm having high-value guys come up to me and be like "You're a cool dude, I want you to come to my party" and shit like that. I mean this isnt to say that that never happened to me before, but like, I feel like I've genuinely earned it now, i feel like my coolness is more consistent, and like buddhagames said, that I can really express who I truly am more easily. Rather than having to only rely on times when im "in state" or whatever.

I'm not the most experienced guy with girls, definitely wasnt a natural and I had issues with self esteem for various reasons growing up-wtvr.
I know if I keep consistently taking action like I've been recently, I KNOW I will not be in the same place a year from now.

I can already see how getting better at this is giving me more confidence all around, and that I am going to reap what I sew in other aspects of my life.

Ive been making the kale/banana/broccoli/almond butter/blueberry shakes too ;)


I know drinking and smoking are vices but I'll ditch those later-
after i've reached a certain level of proficiency, i wont want to smoke. I'll "kill" the drinking by doing sober challenges.

Anyway point is go me.

@Alex123:

Wow I'm at this party right now it's a bunch of hot girls in sPandex dancing around, and the ones I've talks to are receptiv for sure, but for some reason I feel like a total chose right now: maybe I'm intimidated cuz these girls r hot, and I don't want to see them again and be "embarassed"... Idk tho I haven't had this happen to me in over a month if I was in state I'd be in heaven right now.

Wtf how do I snap myself Out of this.. I even did drills before I went out which usually bumps the kinks out. Going to go back in

@Hand76:

8/15/2012

Thanks man.

Your right that's part of my problem i still seek some validation thru girls/guys reactions to me. Less than I used to for sure but its still there..

So I went back in and just instantly grabbed the 1st girl i saw

me: Are you just like in standby mode??
her: What?
me: Yeah I saw u earlier just chillin, and it sux but i feel the SAME WAY
her: Oh yeah im just looking for my friends, im driving tonight :/
me: yeah, are u always DD looking out like that?
her: no not always, and sometimes we walk..

She gets distracted starts calling for someone so i leave and approach a girl i dont know THAT well, but went to my highschool,

I go for hi-5 she hugs me, i do a really pussy version of the forearm grab on her as we talk a lil

I go to the bar, see this girl from earlier (she's fine, one of the 2 hottest girls pudding wrestling yesterday) I had asked her earlier if her piercing hurt, she was like, yea but it wasnt that bad..

She bumped into me a couple times and was like "oh im sorry :)" kind of reaching out to touch my arm but not making contact. I was like "ur good."
I could have been like "areee you? ;)" and actually engaged the woman in some conversation but tonight it's not just that I wasn't in state, I was like suffering from a legit lack of confidence in myself that I havent experienced in a WHILE.

I was comparing myself to other dudes at the place, just basically in my head the ENTIRE time. Totally spectator mode.

I like approached a couple girls but it wasnt even man to woman. There was a girl wearing a San Francisco Giants tank so i started talking to her cuz i used to live there. She was SUPER down to talk to me and was talking about how she just arrived YESTERDAY and had like no friends except some waterpolo girls she met tonight or something... And I STILL somehow managed to not continue this interaction solidly at all. Like totally the chodest of chode convo with this girl. I was like "we should hangout then" and she was like "yeah" and then.... nothing

I dont know why i was sapped of all confidence tonight. Its like i felt all the opposite emotions of what ive been working on. i felt like i just "wasnt" enough.

In my head i was having thoughts of my "pain body" , totally looking at the glass half empty.

I think what im going thru maybe is like ive had a certain amount of success recently as far as reactions from girls and whatnot, so i dont want to fuck it up or something by putting myself out there?

Another thing thats big that ive noticed is I feel like im either like "GIRL UR FUCKIN SEXY GET OVER HERE" like grabbing her everywhere and shit. Or like "hi my names alex its nice to meet you i have no penis". Like I have no in between. I have no idea how to escalate on girls in a chill way. Its either one or the otehr, and if im not feeling like the fucking man, then i just end up being the complete opposite.

Idk hopefully my next session with the MW will get this shit sorted out . Fuck.

@Alex123:

Oh and there was this stupid girl there that hates me for some reason... and was like standing next to me and pointed at me

I was like whats up and put my hand out

she was like "eww im not shaking hands with you your creepy!"

me: Im creepy huh
her: Your CREEPY *leaves

i didnt make any eye contact with er in this interaction not sure if that had an impact. Probably cuz she was pointing at me and i clearly didnt want to talk to her cuz i didnt even look at her and like put my hand out instead

Yeah, so, looking back i dont care about this dumb girl, but when this happened i was like wtfffff and it totally affected me in the moment tbh.

I need to get WAY better control over my emotions.

@Alex123:

o ya and if tonight couldnt get any gayer, there was also a guy that come out on the street and started talking to me, then the girl he was with came over and started getting in my personal space. The dude leaves and apoligizes for talking to me....??? and leaves me with the girl

I confirm the fact that he wasnt her boyfriend and tht she doesnt have a boyfriend. and proceed to do NOTHING

@Alex123:

I appreciate your comments, Hand. I guess I should not get down on myself because I did what i could in the moment the way i was feeling and with my current skill level. like i said i feel like retarded when it comes to amping up sexual vibes with girls in subtle ways or in a "chilled out" manner. but yeah, i could have just not gone out tonight so i suppose i am atleast doing that much right.

i still have this icky feeling though. i need to learn how to meditate so i can get rid of all the internal bullshit going on.

@Alex123:

8/16/2012


So I get out a little after midnight tonight. Did some drills and then hit the usual spot.

Im hungry even tho I already ate a bunch earlier 'cuz ive been hitting heavy cardio/weight.

After my session with MW we talked about outcome dependency and shit, so i was like fuckit im wearing a wrinkly ass t-shirt at the bottom of my luggage, and the dirtiest pair of shoes I own just to cement the fact that i dont give a shit tonight and Im going sober. Just working on my fucking eye contact and not giving a fuck.

I approach a blondie outside on my way in "Has anyone ever told you you look good in pink"

bla bla convo i sit down with her, joking around, DEADLY eye contact thats really all i care about.
We talk about childrens toothepaste and poms. I dont care I # close this girl while staring at her the whole time i only look at my phone to put the passcode in and hand it to her.

I smack her ass at one point and she reacts negatively but I keep talking like nothing happened and she's cool.

I walk up to the line like "IM SOO HUNGRYYY" to the 2 girls at the back of the line

I start telling em how im gona be up in the club eating a juicy ass burger and acting it out and stuff and they just start laughing. i get more intense grabbing em pretending to give em bites of my imaginary burger. lol

They think this shit is hilarious. Time goes by superquick cuz im fucking with em, but the cuter one is engaged. The other one is visiting from minnesota and this bar is PACKEd with girls. Engaged girl says she'll pay for me to get in cus i dont have cash i tell her ill get her a drink inside. I get in without paying and ditch those girls

Im walking thru the venue, just like damn, there are so many hot girls in here. Like honestly, its like being at a club in a city but these girls are all 21-22, and youre competing with frat guys for these girls. Whatever

So i walk outside open a couple girls just to get in the swing of things, see an old acquaintance yata yata. I've noticed that the stunners are almost always in set/have a bunch of guys/girls around them. So theyre harder to open

I do a lap. Im by the bar and see a hottie approaching it making a face im like "Is that your 'i need a shot' face, shes like "YEAHHH bla bla" she turns to the guys buying them drinks. I take her hand ask her if anyone ever told her she looks like miley. She's like NO WAY thats the 3rd time someones said that to me tnight. Im like must be the hair i run my hand along her ponytail by her chest. She's all wrapped up in taking a shot w these dudes i start talking to her friend who tells me "DONT call her miley, shes way hotter than miley". i get my girls attention again and say "hey, your way prettier than miley" my girl girl-codes the friend like that was weird and goes back to talking to her shot slaves. Im like ok wtvr and bounce

Go up to a girl in a set with a gy n girl. Tell her she looks like a sexy "where is waldo" and shes super confused and is like idk if thats a compliment or what im like , yeah it was sposed to be. I can tell its not on so i tell her im sry i just get nervous and my heart beats really fast when im talking to pretty girls. She's like oh yeah is ur heart beating fast? :) i put her hand on my chest and she kind of melts and is like "STOPPP! ur so sweet!" i tell her i like being touched (giving her some sicknasty eye contact) and put both her hands on my chest she like bends over laughing and is like "STOPPPP :))" and then points out that her boyfriend is right there. Im like oh awesome well have a great night guys.

Go up to a girl at the bar like whats up. Shes responsive. I talk to her for a bit she says shes getting vegas bombs im like what a coincidence im going there in a week shes like why didnt u invite me!! im like shit girl, MAYBE i will, if ur lucky ;) . Shes like im going to say maybe ill come if YOUR lucky ;)
im like u cant turn that around girl, she says why not

me: cuz im too fuckin gangster ;)

I noticed there was a window where I should have gone for the kiss she definitely wanted it, i went for it a bit later but she turned her cheek and smiled.

So this OTHER dude steps in and is putting his hands on her and stuff, i just introduce myself to the dude super confidently. She like doesnt know what to do its kinda funny but I just keep chilling there with them. I was going to see how it panned out and if i could tool the dude out, but a buddy of mine from camp walks up and im like shit i havent seen this dude so I roll with him. We walk to another bar, on the way in the girl gives us free drink coupons. We meet with my dudes boys and take the free shot. I tell em ill see em later and go upstairs. I open a few sets, some react well but then like run off with friends. I see this cute lil blonde walking my direction w a budlight, im like "how's that budlight? Is it LOW calorie? can u feel the BURN??" super nasty eye contact. She tells me that its good and the fact that its free makes it taste better. I give the interaction space and she kind of fills it up by repeating herself which was cool

I wander off,

I open budlight girl again and basically just stare deeply into her eyes idont remember what i said. Her friend pulls on her, and i kind of just help the friend by guiding her toward the friend, even tho she was like looking up at me and resisted leaving me and was apologizing. I go downstairs

Theres a group of girls and a dude sitting at a table with bottle service. the girl that catches my attention is wearing a minnie mouse headband

me: "WHATS WITH THE MINNIE MOUSE EARS??"

this girl lights up, takes the ears off, and tells me she doesnt know they put them on her, she asks me if I want a shot im like sure. So she hands me over and is like giving me all of her attention, and starts asking me who I am and a BUNCH of questions. She even points it out and is smiling like "Iknow its 20 questions :)" im like yeah i feel like im being interviewed, she gives me this weirdish look for a SPLIT second, but then realizes im smiling and dont mean any harm by that comment and goes back to being smiley. She starts asking me where I live and I tell her and she starts asking how far away that is. I tell her. Im just standing there over her and im not even super consciously aware of whats happening cuz its all happening so fast, but im like "hey i feel weird just standing here" and she tells me to sit down, but the seat is on the other side of the table. I go sit down and Im PRETTY sure this girl says to the guy she's next to, "We're leaving, we're going to ALex's house" and im like what the hell am i hearing things or what. I try to listen for a second to see if I can find out what this girl is really aiming at or talking about, i thought maybe one of her friends' names was alex but she introduced me to all her girlfreinds and none of them were named alex. Anyway i sit there for a little and then i get back up and im like hey. Shes like hey :). The guy next to her is telling her they should go to his house to smoke.

I fuck up here and ask if she's going to his house, but then interrupt myself to ask what she's doing tonight

She tells me she doesnt know, im like ok, well.... I see a dog on her phone i sit down next to her cuz her friend moves finally. I have her show me pics of her dog and its clear theyre all leaving so I #close her.

She's like "call me later :)" and then is like "haha im just kidding" and turns to her friends.

I should have persisted here but I was in that I dont give a fuck mode. I DID call her later but she didnt answer. I also texted her she didnt answer. I think what she needed was some physical touching, some physcial assurance that if we met up later she would be taken care of. That she was dealing with a bossdaddy who knew how he wanted his girl.

I should have atleast said I WILL call u later. whatever

I see a girl in pink pants

me: NO PINK PANTS ALLOWED HERE GIRl, thats my new rule!
her: Bla bla bla bla!!!
dude next to her: bla bla bla bla!!

I literally dont remember anything that was said here, but that im grabbing this girl talking to her about something completely random all up on her shit, and then later find out that the dude next to her was her boyfriend. lol he did nothin except when i told her to stop wearing boys underwear he was like "UR wearin boys underwear! im like "U WANA SEE MANN!!" pull my shit out and his girlfriend is all telling me shes not wearing any panties. Im grabbing her lil girlfriend now but her boyfriend comes over and is like "WHOA man bla bla bla" im like "sry dude didnt know" and hes cool

I go back upstairs and see my budlight girl again, she gets doe eyed when she sees me. I come in and take her hand and tell her i realize shes with her friends she starts apologizing im just like its cool. ask her if she likes icecream. Yeah. #close

I tell her we're getting some tomorrow she's like ok i tell her nice meeting her give her a hug and she grabs my hand as I leave. the fucking eye contact did the work for me here

I go downstairs and get a txt from her.

Theres not much more girls in there that im trying to hit up. One CUTIE at a booth by the exit, shes sitting with a dude. I go up like HEY *devastating eye contact

her: Hey

me: we need to talk *she breaks eye contact as i get close to her ear, i dont
me: but now's not the -

The dude shes sitting with starts yelling: "HEY YOU FUCKING ASSHOLE DONT COME UP HERE AND WHISPER IN MY GIRLFRIENDS EAR"

me: Ok man, i didnt know she was your girlfriend
him: OF COURSE SHE IS IM SITTING HERE WITH HER

basically the dude keeps cussing me out furious im just like ok man

I leave. Feel good. Its funny how the only way to snap myself out of that shitty state i was in yesterday/part of today was just to go out and prove to myself all over again that I am on the right path, and I CAN and AM doing this. And its like the less fucks given= more fun (& eyecontact)

budlight girl texted me

her: Hi
me: Hey punkn
her: Sorry my friend is too drunk
me: All good beb I've seen worse
her: Have a good night

Sweeeeeeet

@Manwhore:

I went to eat today and there was this beautiful girl with her mom and brother that walked in as I did.

I was like "ok bro this is your day" your'e going to conquer this shit. So take tolle out of my headphones and order my food after they do. So im like ok im just going to get my food and get a table and come back and grab her #. So i get my food and get a table and go back there and shes talking to her brother and her mom and i puss out.

Go back to my food, and try to get myself pepped up and ready to do this, and now shes in the checkout line, so i go outside.... Put my food in my car.

I walk back and practice having laser eye contact on a tractor outside, when i look up and realize shes sitting at a table outside like across from me and im like behind the tractos. Im like shit, she probably saw me standing here now if i go over this is going to be akward, so i go back to my car.....

This goes on for like 20 mins i even do jumping jacks outside my car to get myself hyped and old ladies are passing by watching me

Im just thinking in my head, "youre going to regret this so hard if you dont do it, DO IT" I literally cant bring myself to move, my heart is in fucking knots. I call my friend to tell him to tell me that i HAVE to do this, or im a fucking faggot. he doesnt answer. I realize i am the only person that will make my life the way i want it to be. I imagine myself going up and talking to her, and TRY imagining it going well, but i imagine it being a total mess of a situation, by now theres even more people sitting around the area that they are in.

As i write this now, I realize this must be part of my problem. I have never approached a girl Direct with her family and therefor am not seeing what it should properly look like in my head. I have to use positive visualizations for myself to be able to do this, my current visualizations are self-sabotaging

I decide im going to eat my sandwhich and then go, bc my nerves are thru the roof.

I eat it quickly, but theyre gone now.

I felt terrible. Like all the effort ive been putting in was squashed my a middle aged woman and some kid. I dont know why but that situation terrified me. Its the same approach anxiety that i used to feel for girls by themselves before i started doing this. My heart was racing and nothing had even happened

I must have built a habit of approval seeking from authority/older people throughout my life, and so I am terrified of approaching their daughters for sex. In my subconscious mind somewhere, this is "unacceptable". I have to get PAST this and move on with my life. I cant even consider myself as having game if I cant do this.

This is a completely irrational fear. The brothers presence also added to my discomfort bc in my mind he would somehow "hate" me for doing this

Realistically however:

1. This girl wants to get fucked
2. Someone's going to fuck the shit out of her
3. That person should be me


"A warrior chooses a path with heart, any path with heart, and follows it. And then he rejoices, and laughs. He knows because he sees that his life will be over, altogether too soon, he sees that nothing is more important than anything else. Nothing being more important than anything else, a warrior chooses to act, and acts it out as if it mattered to him.

His controlled folly makes him say that what he does matters, and makes him act as if it did. And yet he knows that it doesnt. So when he fulfills his acts, he retreats in peace, and whether his acts were good or bad, or worked or didnt, it is in no way a part of his concern"

@Alex123:
Yo don't be too hard on yourself man. Your a boss and you're taking a lot of action. Daygame is fucking tough by yourself. I tried to do some today, when I was at the mall, and I just couldn't do it. Reaction time was ultra slow, and I was in my head a ton as well. The reasons were stupid, but in the moment, all the irrational dumb thoughts got the best of me.

Holmes don't trip over not approaching a girl in front of her mom and brother. It's coo. ;)

If you can do it without making her family trip balls.. COOL.. if not.. don't worry about it. She's with her family you can respect that. Not saying it can't be done because it CAN.. but there are SO many ways of making it happen smooth and it going WELL. Concentrate on THAT instead.

@Alex123:

8/17/2012

Quick write-up

Im eating and get a text from a dude I met in spring. He's invites me over for a drink so I go over. It's me and his boy, we have a couple drinks, his roommate comes thru. He tells us theres a RAGER going on at x address. And that he's talking to the DJ there. We're all like ok cool lets roll there.

We roll in my car and they want to get cigs so we stop at a gas station. These girls roll up with some dudes who clearly aren't fucking them. The girls are mugging us hard.
I ask them what they're doing tonight out of my car window. They're like "we dunooo" im tell em were going to a party at so and so spot. They're like maybeee we'll come. I make fun of girl's accent a little and then im like its kinda cute i like it. So they're giggling and at this point the car full of dudes im with is like lmaoing in the back.

I grab the girls # and call it as she's leaving smiling at me. tell her lll text her the address of the party. I text

Me: Babe call me if u wana party with some rockstars instead of fags

Proly not the best text, it was funny at the time

We try to find this party and it becomes more and more apparent that dude doesn't actually know anyone thats there right now…. He had told us he knew the DJ but I guess he didn't and his friend who wasn't actually there had told him bout it…. Were like wtf dude

We roll into this apt building, theres girls outside i start talking to one of them. We enter the lobby she's saying its hot im like "..yeah i get that a lot"
*laughs
Im like "STOP it girll ;) " like pushing her away
the guys im with are cracking up, the girls start talking to our group more asking us which party were goin to, im like thanking them for opening doors for me and calling em sweethearts and stuff.

Us guys go upstairs cuz we hear music and just see if its the thing it isn't, girls left, we go across to other building.

Yata yata basically theres this really drunk guy there… serious alcohol poisoning foaming at the mouth cant move by himself at all. Some guy comes up telling me he needs water. Im like go knock on one of these doors and get him some water. The guys like "come with me!" im like are u fuckin serious dude go get the dude water

He like disappears so I end up getting water from some girls, they tell us we should call an ambulance.
This dude's "friends" are trying to get him to "walk it off"…… completely impossible for that to work we call an ambulance and tell these children to leave.

NOBODY was calling anyone, i don't know how long this had been going on but if we hadn't called that kid might have died. Really.

Basically we split up cuz i decide to hit the bars but the lines are RIDICULOUS so i say fuckit and go chill with those guys.

It was a fun night not to much gaming tho

8/18/2012

I roll up into Detroit Airport and theres these 2 SMOKING hot girls doing standing splits like spreading their legs open while Mom/Dad take pics of them infront of this crazy fountain.

I walk up to the fountain just to look better and holy fuck, fit dance/sporty girls turn me on like no other. Ive been obsessed with cheerleaders since elementary school.

So i basically jizz my pants standing there, and im like whatever dude im at the airport there would not even be any point approaching these girls right now, and im in no condition to do so because i know i would make a total fool of myself cuz i would be fucking trembling since i haven't even conquered the parents thing yet. (at the same time i think that forcing myself into these painful situations is the way to go tho, especially when I have nothing to lose i.e. at an airport)

So I walk to my terminal and get a sandwich. Im ordering and low and behold, these 2 girls come walking my way, past my terminal/area. Im like holy fuck there is no option now these women are getting a serving of WHATEVER comes out

So I walk over and see them sitting there. I don't give myself anytime to calm my nerves and I just go straight in, i figure if i waited around it would be a rerun of yesterday's episode of "Pussing Out"

So I go in and am Super fuckin nervous

me: Hey *nervous
lefty: Hey… (averts gaze)
me: *looks at righty "Who aree you guys?
*look at each other like what*

*nervous, shaky, beta approach style

me: Well, I just, saw you guys modeling in front of the waterfountain earlier, and I was like, well, you guys are supercute so I figured I would come over and meet you guys :)
*I was SUPER nervous during this, which is funny because my pausing/pacing was actually pretty $ cuz i was trying to think of what to say without sounding retarded,
But my voice was shaking and my eye contact was that of a shy child


Even after this BUTCHERED approach they are actually pretty friendly. Especially the one on the right she has an amazing smile.

They tell me that they're dancers thats why they were modeling in from of the fountain, and im like thats awesome. They're going to LA for a weeklong dance camp. And they want to be professional dancers. I cant even help anything coming out of my mouth besides "thats awesome" Hahaha

What's funny is that if I hadn't seen them doing splits earlier AND being with their parents, I probably would've gone in James Bond style. Sat down right next to the cute one and started getting physical.

Instead I sit down across from them. And open my book to "read" instead of continue engaging them in conversation.
At some point I realize their parents are actually right there lol. I didn't even notice cuz i was so honed in on just approaching. So technically, this is my first set where the parents were right there listening that i did direct approach on, even tho i didn't know. Im still going to count it just cuz i had seen their parents earlier and whatever i was nervous as fuck and im really glad i stepped up and just made my feet move.
They open a video and are giggling I ask if its a dance vid and they're like yeah. I don't go try to see it. I have already placed myself as beta and not sexworthy in their book. Im just happy i made the approach

I just read my book there. I actually make some conversation with their mom while they're getting food about how theres so many japanese people in detroit (never knew this) thats why the signs are written in japanese instead of spanish.

When they're grabbing their stuff to board I ask the hot one if she has a Facebook. She says no. Im ilke "Yeahh you do, haha, I wanted to send you a hip hop song I made (they told me they do hip hop dance)

Her: I don't have a Facebook, sorry

#LIES, Haha. Well Im proud of myself for doing this. But theres other hot girls in the airport right now even as Im writing this that Im not approaching. I feel gay when compared to guys like buddhagames who would probably be running around this airport chatting up every hot girl in here. Idk man, I think one thing that Im realizing, is I need to ALWAYS hold myself to a certain standard- like Im leaving my house to fuck.

Because there's times, like right now when i know im going to be at the airport-- im wearing a shirt thats too small for me, and with approaching being hard enough already, theres no reason that I shouldnt give myself the edge of knowing that i look good. Im going to start making that a priority to always look/feel like a fucking pimp when i leave my house


8/19/2012

Shotgirl calls me in my hotel room, like who's this, I tell her she gave me a shot the other night. She's like sry, wrong # and hangs up

I shoulda been ilke WHOS THIS?? YOUR WORST NIGHTMARE GIRL. Im the boy your mom told you to stay away from

@Alex123:

Sunday 8/19/2012

I go up the elevator to my hotel rm, theres 2 girls in there that obviously just got there so i point this out, then find out the cute one goes to my rival university im like fuck her mascot she laughs. I get her # like "well u guys r gona be here this week, so we should meetup at a club or something'" It wasn't strong I didn't hold her eye contact at a critical point.

I text her: Have fun at lavo

no response

I change in my room and on the way down in the elevator theres 2 cuties, i ask em what they're doing casually while looking at my phone. When they tell me they're seeing a chipendales show im like "ILL SHOW U A CHIPENDALES SHOW" and start dancing in the elevator. The hot one is laughing on the way out of the elevator I #close her. Once again she looked back at me but I was looking at my phone/away idk I feel maybe it was a critical time I should have looked at her but she had already started walking off w her friends so i thought the interaction was over…
I text her

me: Girl I'm telling magic mike about you. Don't be surprised if he sings us a song onstage ; )

no response

Im going to print out a ticket to XS in the computer lab and I see this cutie rolling luggage with her mom. I'm like snap and roll up on her as soon as her mom walks away

me: Hey
her: Hey
me: Do you like ice-cream?
Her: …..why :)
me: ….Cuz were goin to go get some :)

she laughs and tells me no, she's leaving. wtf. i find out she's not from a city nearby me at all so i dip. She thanked me twice tho and seemed like she would've been down. Supercute.

I roll back thru the casino area and im like "What're you girls doin!" behind a 2 set of blondes

I chat w them while walking behind them for a bit then they slow down and i start talking about chihuahas and malteses. They're like we like malteses and shitsus not chihuahas. Im like girl thats perfect im taking you out for ice-cream. She says she's lactose intolerant im like awesome frozen yogurt it is. They're laughing and stuff but they just leave

Get a cab over to XS w a dude who's staying in the same hotel

Otw in im like "nice heels" to this girl walking she's like "thanks!" then i like look up at her face and check it out, saying "oh i was checking to see if ur eyes were green" (her heels were green thought her eyes were brown tho) she's like "They are!!" im like "Are you fuckin serious??" turn to check em again. She gets pulled away to get in a photo. We roll to the line.

These fuckers tell me im not allowed to wear gym shorts at the pool party, only swim shorts. So i leave. See heel girl on the way out and just point at her and walk over. Tell her bout the bs shorts issue she's giving me some NICE eye contact and asks me what my name is sipping out of her straw seductively I tell her and im like ill see u inside later. She's like ok. As i leave im like fuck should've grabbed her #. I almost do but then make eye contact with a guy she's with who's staring at me and just leave… Dumb, I never see her inside.

Get back to the club and approach so many girls its kind of fuzzy. One girl named sara is walking past me i grab her hand bring her in tell her she's "sexy as FUCK"

she likes it and stops, and Im making good eye contact. thats what im focusing on right now b.c thats what ive been lacking recently. So were talking and her friend that was leading her actually asks ME if its ok if she goes to the bathroom.. im like yeah and its just me my girl. I step in like "of course its ok this is what vie been waiting for ;). She is giggling I keep saying shit. i notice that I'M the one who stepped into her, and didn't bring her into me… something vie noticed that i should start doing more. like commanding her to come to me. ANyway im doing manwhore physical escalation stuff and it progresses into me holding her there with me, im like all she can see. I go for the kiss she slowly turns her cheek and says sry. She lives in vegas. we were talking about something being ok and she was like, "would it be ok if I kissed you :)" im like "It'll be ok no matter what babe, its up to u if u wana kiss me" she laughs and we makeout a lil. We're still standing like this and then she's like ok im going to go to the bathroom.

I walk with her for a sec with my arm around her waist and her hip kinda tucked in against mine, then let go, we kiss again at the bathroom and i get her #. Im like text me if im not out here she's like ok :)

Soo.. I text her maybe 30 min later "Come to the jacuzzi" and she never responds. I know i needed a more pinging text, like with an emotional spike but im still not sure what

Im walkin around opening lots of girls. Its mostly positive in the beginning because vie amped myself up. I go in to one girl in a set of girls and grab her arm covered in bangles
me: Thats quite the bracelet collection
her:*stunned, gathers herself "Thank you"
me: And you're quite the girl.
*my eye contact was fucking DEADLY here, which i am really happy about bc thats something i was fucking up with earlier this week
I chat with her for a second but she says something about a fiancee, i pull her in for a kiss on the cheek but she resists then her friend eyecodes her and is like "ewww" and its over.

I grab some cute mixed girl in and tell her she's cute (physical opener) she's responsive but says her boyfriend is right behind me. Introduces me.

See an RSD guy with 2 girls, so i go in for the other one. He leaves pretty quickly and the girls are like "THANK GODD" i ask her why. The conversation is too logical. My girl is smoking cigarettes and Im not initiating enough physicality, although i do tell her she's hot and she turns me on and im in her physical space and she laughs.. Its just not there for some reason. Probably a lack of eye contact

I open some giril in a flowery dress like "i love flowery dresses" and get in her way. She's hesitant at first but i keep talking shit. She hooks more. Tells me im a gentleman when i kiss her hand. its kind of fizzling. I don't have enough push. She turns to talk to her friends, I grab her bra strap and snap it, she turns around im like that was rude and leaves with her friends.

Smoking hot blonde in red dress:

me: Hey :)
her: Hey :))
spit some bullshit like your so fucking hot bla bla, grab her arms go into her like im gona take you to build a bear and its gona be named caitlyn with ribbons and bows all over and its goon say with alex on it bla bla" basically she's loving it but tells me her boyfriend is right behind me. This happens a lot tonight

Grab a girl in a pink dress tell her she's a fuckin hottie. she's like "Thanks! :)" her friend is pulling her away i follow for a second telling her i wana take her to the mall, she's like the mall?? im like chipotle her friend keeps tugging her away i don't want to follow her it'd seem desperate. Idk maybe i should follow in these situations. but like, i could feel her interest die after the mall comment, it was projected enough and wasn't specific enough. wouldve been an uphill battle for sure

im doing laps around this place. Open a girl on balcony who i find out is 35 (looks no older than 24, srs) i like cant even believe it. she's with her friend and has a fiancee and.. yeah

I open these girls by the dancefloor/pool area right after some dude gets all up in their shit and they clearly didn't like it, i talk w them about this and im getting up in my girls physical space she's like "Im sorry! theres this 42 yr old guy friend of ours and he's paying for everything! i cant dance with you!" this is such a load of bullshit. I mean its true i saw them with this older guy later but wtf. I persist telling her to dance with me She's like "im sorry! Your so hot! i totally would but i cant!!" i get her # and leave, she doesn't have her phone on her.

I do random approaches honestly lots of these women seem like they're taken or with they're boyfriends. Some of em just totally blow me out. I think a lot of my approaches just weren't STRONG enough. Like usually i go for the hand, there was this HOTTIE passing by me in a bikini and i move a little too late. (proly should do lumosity didn't see her quick enough) so i go for grabbing her hand but she like slinks it around mine and i don't catch onto anything so i kind of walk backwards with her talking to her she just waves me off. Another HOTTIE dancing in the water i grab her hand she's just like "Please don't touch me." im like ok. Ur fuckin hot.

^I shouldn't do that shit. When a girl gives me shit i shouldn't validate her like that. totally wack lol. I guess its 'cuz im not sure what else to say and so i just say what im thinking in ANY hope to continue the interaction. But i should be more like "i hate u" and give her push i guess… not sure how to recover from shit like that.

Theres a girl i thought i opened earlier i go in tell her she's a fuckin stunner. She's like thank you its lukewarm. She's at a bottleservice table and theres a guy adjacent to me. I need to get better at placing myself/her in positions advantageous. For instance, in this set the guy from the table was like creeping behind us just staring at me. I could see him in my peripheral and she could completely see him. I even glance at him at a point, when i should have just COMPLETELY ignored his ass. He's like "U ALRIGHT MAN??" i can just feel his negative energy sapping mine I just eject from the set its lame.

Theres some girl i approach who just WONT stop dancing, and moving. Like i followed her over to an area, she wouldn't stop dancing but is talking to me smiling and stuff, and her friends are staring at me and move her again… IN these situations im just not sure what to do. I tried to get her to stop but she was like "i don't wana lose my friends!" so, i know i could keep following her, but then im going to have to deal with the shit the friends are going to give me about following them and whatnot….. I guess this is retarded and I should totally fucking pursue. The thing is, im still at a point where i get stuck on what to say. Especially if girls are giving me shit. Julien gave a speech today about how it DOESNT matter what you say, just the underlying vibe. But i still get stuck on what im saying. I mean i know theres definitely a difference between good/bad verbals. Idk that my vibe necessarily could save me from getting shit on my a girls friends. Especially when she wont stop dancing. I guess i should have twirled her around and MADE her come into my PHYSICAL reality. She was too much in her own reality.

This definitely wasn't all the girls i opened but i just opened a lot. At a certain point my body is like drained. I think mentally/emotionally drained from getting rejected so many times. I kind of just chill out and watch Julien spit game, and send his bootcamp guys into sets. From here on my game gets lazy, i stop approach machining and just pass by lots of hot girls. I still open but its like this lazy approach

I see a girl smoking a cig im ilke "You know thats bad habit" She's like "I know but im so fucking stressed!!
I get all up in her space and pull her in to me kind of but lazily, not with massive intent, more like, *im gona hold u like this i hope thats ok* type vibe
Were chatting a bunch, its cool i have my hands on her back and on her ass at times and she doesn't tell me to stop, and laughs sometimes at stuff im saying, but i can simultaneously tell that she doesn't really give a shit about me. It was just my vibe like i was kind of clinging onto her cuz i liked touching her lmao. I had a boner which was a good sign, but her purse was between me and her i should've moved it to make her hornier. She kept saying that she was stressed cuz her friend did drugs and they're leaving in the morning i kept telling her to chill and tried to bring her attention back to me but she wasn't. I should've lifted her up and turned her around to face me away from her friends. Eventually shit just gets more and more lame. She has her back to me and I say something to her and she doesn't turn around/acknowledge it. Then she sits down. I sit down next to her like "danceeee with me" she's like "no" this guy comes up asks me if i know anyone at the table she's like no and he says he's gona call security and have me kicked out so i get up and leave.

Im dragging. I can tell its because im not used to being rejected so many times in one night. Its an emotional thing that I will eventually get past. I do some more lazy opens nothing worth mentioning.

Im not going to be too hard on myself for my 1st night in vegas.

Im proud of:

MY EYE CONTACT IS GETTING MUCH BETTER
My awareness to the situation, i.e. what the girl is paying attention to, how SHE's feeling feels more attuned
The 1st part of the night I was in approach machine mode for sure
Ability to just open girls in elevators that i think are cute before ive gone out
Ability to just swoop in on a girl in the lobby when her mom walks away for a bit, without being SUPER NERVOUS, like i was at the airport yesterday

Needs work:

funny enough, although its improving, my eye contact STILL NEEDS WORK, lol.
LIVING COMPLETELY IN THE MOMENT, i.e., should have got the green eyed girls # in the lobby when i had the chance
Not allowing other's negativity to affect me, (chide guy at bottle service/negative friends)
Not becoming emotionally downtrodden by so much rejection
I need MORE PUSH…. this is like some advanced concept to me. I realize i have never fully quite gotten how to push effectively. I know its something i have done in the past with measures of success, but unconsciously. I do not yet have the ability to actively create push and thereby create more attraction it seems like.. idk ill probably ask about this at the seminar today
MORE WAYS OF BEING PHYSICAL AND MORE EXPERIMENTATION IN GENERAL. experiment with lifting girls up, twirling them, other physical moves even if i get blown out by it. Im too stuck in, hand grabs, arm grabs and such I just need more versatility i feel like, maybe. I still don't even really get what the "claw" is
I need girls to be more invested, make them ask questions, make them tell me what my name is…. not QUITE sure how to do this. Give them shittests

@Alex123:

yeah, yesterday I got the # of a french girl in front of her dad and sister.

Just be cool about it, it's really not a big deal. If it's a mom- even better... she'll think you are "SO CUTE"

Yep pretty GAY.

@Manwhore:

8/20/2012

So I roll out of my hotel with my crew, we're all feeling really good- like amping each other up and stuff its cool. My boys are approaching girls on the street which is cool. Im just feeling kind of chill so I roll with that. My guys open this 2 set on the way into Cosmopolitan. One of em is real cute, doesn't work out since they aren't rolling into Marquee and we are.

We're on the guestlist, but we need to roll up there with girls which is why homes were doing street approaches. Once inside he's approaching girls like a madman asking them if they wana be on the guestlist. Im like bro thats not working these hot girls ur talking to are already on the guestlist. So I spot two cute portugese girls and clap my hands and point "YOU"
*bitch shield semi-broken
I ask them if they wana roll into Marquee with us and be on the guestlist and they're down. So I grab homie out of a like 10 set where he's trying to negotiate and bring him to the girls and we roll into the guestline.

These girls are being standoffish im making conversation with them and they're laughing smiling a bit but its like nothing is hooking them. I eventually turn to the girls infront of us inline and open them. Talk to em bout bootyshaking, keep calling one of the girls 16 and im like yeah i like 16 yr old girls and the vibe of the whole time we are in line is just awesome. Like all of us are being loud obnoxious and totally self amusing, while grabbing girls and fucking with them. This 2 set of blondes just rolls into line with us also. They tell us they're newly engaged- they're wearing some crazy engagement gear, like half brided out. So i start fucking with them telling one of them how im gona bench press her when we get up to the club on the bar after im done taking my preworkout shots. I give an example by lifting her friend off the ground who is hotter and closer to me.

The 4 of us are just being cool and its like all these girls gravitate toward us… somehow it ends up being us 4 guys plus like 6 girls that get in on our guestlist. We get in for free. Boss shit.

We clown on one of the portugese girls for being in her head and were telling her were going to get her out of it and they're all fucking with her. These girls were seriously being lame. they kept saying that they hadnt had anything to drink.
So we're all feeling good as fuck and we huddle up and start yelling shit. Were chanting stupid shit and im doing an Australian accent.
We get in the elevator with the girls and are going ham, and go out the doors yelling shit.

I go walk past the dance floor and outside where I say whatup to these british guys. Go in to the main area. Im like where did my boys go so I find em. Walk by a bar my homie asks me if he should approach this girl im like fuck yeah. i approach a girl standing opposite her on the ramp. My girl opens all smiling. The security guy tells her to move, I go with her. I talk to her she gives me nice smiles but she's playing with her phone then is like im going outside to meet my friends and just leaves. I grab him from a weird girl and we go out.

I had decided I was going to have fun tonight and just "chat up" girls, instead of approaching like a madman and escalating shit as quick as possible. So we walk around by the white bar, I see homie sat down w a 2set on ledge so I go in with the friend. Sit down next to her. I just practice being able to talk for LONG amounts of time. She smiles a lot at what im saying but doesn't make MUCH eye contact, and her body is facing slightly more towards the pool than to me. I point this out at one point and she's like "Oh no I was just adjusting my dress".. or something. I stand up and am engaging her and her friend, storytelling and being completely self amused. At one point I ask her what her deal is, and her friend goes "Yeah! He's telling us stories he's funny!!" to her friend cuz she's just… not having fun. She tells me she's really tired and only had 2 hrs sleep lastnight.

We branch off from them shortly after. O at one point one of the girls asks me Really politely if i could grab her a water. The water dispenser is only like 10 feet away so I go grab some. While i go over there I open a girl from michigan. She's semi hooked but as I keep talking her RAS is more and more all over the place. So when I go back after leaving the 2set i open her again-same shit. So i open her friend. She's like instantly laughing like shy to look at me and keeps looking down while im talking to her but loving it. So homie comes in. Some black dudes turn my girl around to ask a question, but they also apologize like "sry to interrupt". I thought this was cool cuz it made me way more cool with it. As in i could use that when im taking a girl aside it kind of legitimizes it. Anyway, i think we chat with some buddies that we see for a little bit, open a couple more sets in the area and then go back to our Michigan girls. I open a new one of their friends while homie talks to the other one. This girl is legitimately cool. She's instantly hooked and laughing at everything im saying, with a few normal things thrown in so i don't seem insane. Im playing with that line of how much is over the line, and pulling back, and stuff like that. So we're talking about their friendship and how they've been friends forever, and im like "so do u guys have lingerie pillow fights" she's cracking up like "nooo, girls don't do that" im like "ya they do" she's like "thats for me to know" im like "and for me to watch" and she cracks up, i evaluate her reaction it looks like i didn't cross the line she says "ur hilarious" but averts her gaze for a while, as soon as she does im looking at her and im just like "YOUR funny :), stop making me laugh so much." im like "No really, you're cool, you can take a joke" She's like "YEAH i can!!" and it feels like we go into some like new level of rapport based on that. I tell her she's not like other girls and make hilarious depictions of other girls waddling away like penguins. We start interacting with my wing and her friend. We're all talking and giving each other hi fives its just an all around fun time. Then his girl goes over to talk to her other friends. I can tell my girl doesn't want to leave me but shell look like a slut i guess if she doesnt/she probably felt more comfortable about hanging out with us while her friend was hanging too. Alex had said today not to stress if your girl leaves. I don't we just go to the bathroom. Come back on the way back in I see a girl talking on her phone she makes eye contact. I DONT BREAK IT, walk over to her, whisper in her ear that she's cute, she's like "Thank you :)" I tell her now's not the place, but we should talk. She repeats what i say as if trying to internalize it and stops listening to whoever she's talking to. "Give me your number" I say. She like apologizes to the person on the phone cuz she's just listening to me now and hangs up on them. My wing comes in to watch while this is happening cuz this girl is smoking hot. My RAS goes to him…… Lame… in order for this to have worked it NEEDED to be just me and the girl. We talk SUPER briefly and then she's like i have to go to my friends. Theres still this twinkle in her eye tho and she loves me. My wing points this out after I leave her too and he's like how the fuck did u do that I tell him.

Lesson learned i suppose. I broke eye contact with her when my wing came in when I needed to be EVERYTHING that was her RAS and straight up take over her world. Instead I gave her a gap to assess the situation logically and "go back to her friends" at the table she was at. Even AFTER that had happened. I STILL could have just bear hugged her and pulled her away somewhere, or facing away from her friends so her attention was back on me. Oh well. I was trying to focus on having fun and not "gaming" at all costs since thats what Alex had spoken about today. With time I will develop a right mixture of both.

We go back to the white bar area we were chilling before and just relax. Definitely open some sets. Talk to one of our 4 OG crew and he tells us something thats been working for him with girls in set already- grabbing a girl by her bicep and being like "Come here for 2 seconds," and the girls complying. So our little group is trying this out with girls around us. With mixed levels of success.

I go on a lap around the pool I tell a girl who's smoking to stop its bad for her. She takes a while to react and then is like "Thank you, you're right" or something i grab her arm tell her im lookingout for her welfare. We talk like this with me standing over her for a while. She's semi hooked laughing at stuff im saying but no anime eyes. While we're talking at a point where i can sense its getting boring/logical i force myself to interrupt her and say "you have really nice tits" She's shocked and i think i sort of crossed the line here, so im like, "is that kind of obnoxious" she's like "a little bit" and im like im sorry im kidding", she laughs. so then i decide to play with it a little more - this is where i kind of messed up i think by bringing it back to the same topic. i should've cut thread, but im like "actually im not," so we continue talking bout her tits for a little i can tell she doesn't really like it. I also think the MAIN problem here was that i was coming from this "experimental frame" like thinking in my head, "ok im going to try this and see what happens"- which was too logical of a frame to be coming from. If i had just honestly blurted that out, then apologized, then been like no but really they're nice ;) i think she would have liked that. but the whole thing seemed forced, because it was.

So we keep talking she still laughs occasionally at things im saying but i play with the line more and fuck up more and basically it goes downhill. At one point she asks me if i have a big penis which makes me think its still on then were talking about my dick but then she gets up. oh also she asks how tall i am, lol i feel like these are screening questions for a girl i tell her 5'8 she says she's 5'9 im like perfect my face will be right at ur boob level. She laughs and stands up. Her RAS is scattered. Im losing her. I need more verbal vomit with less fucking up. I ask her why she hates me, she says she doesn't, her RAS is everywhere. I lose it. She backturns to talk to her friend, i grab her arm "2 seconds" she's like "…ok….." not very pleased I ask her if she likes penis, she's like "what?" im like "u were talking about my penis earlier" she's like "yeah, cuz u made an obnoxious comment about my tits" im like ok and just leave she wasn't having it. At this last point i should've just taken shit to the bitter end by asking her if she wants to touch it with sick eye contact. I could tell that when she originally asked me about my dick it was still semi-on, even tho i was saying weird shit. So definitely, i think i need to experiment more and get that whole thing more smooth, that will be a nice tool to spice up otherwise "chide" conversation, and get some sexual tension going. I just need to come at it from a more playful frame and be more aware of that line. with practice this will naturally happen

i open some irish girls on a couch. Its going ok then some high energy asian guys come over giving them drinks. He even gives me his drink too. We cheers em. They get up and leave.

I open more sets not much noteworthy. Was cool experimenting with Alex's "method" of game. I know its all really the same shit but thats the paradox. You can go around like a crazy gaming girls and fuck them, or be relaxed and game them that way, and probably either way these guys are relaxed. Relaxation = arousal.

Anyway

Stuff from tonight to improve-

Realizing when more physicality is needed- like with the phone girl, should have picked her up and carried her away
Riding the LINE, but in a more playful rather than logical way. Being more calibrated and pulling back more when its needed.

Other than that ive been happy with my eye contact and I was DEFINITELY self-ammused the entire night besides maybe the finance great tits girl
I just need more time in the field


EDIT:

One of my boys in my crew, *Philly*, pulled an 8.5 Hottie last night and got a blowjob in his room. fucking sick he said it was the hottest girl hes ever hooked up with.

@Alex123:

8/21/2012

quick report-

We leave hotel and head to Pure. Outside we mess with these girlys with balloons. Take their balloon hats. One of them is a penis with balls. We're self amusing having a good time in the line. Shorties come, shorties go. We roll up in there the guy makes me take off my hat like a fun-hater. I go in, upstairs. Just take a lap approach a few bitties. One that i approach ends up being on my dick HARD. I cant get her to leave.. Im not attracted to her, she was a warmup. She just broke up with her boyfriend and we went to the same college so its like this shit she has to latch onto that "make sense" that we should fuck. I see how guys "expecting to fuck" is such a turnoff. i suggest we go to her friends and her brother is like "so u like my sister man? take her dancing have fun with her" im like ewww. I am actually having an internal battle within because on the one hand i could go for the pull and gain "pull" experience but it wouldn't be fun for me at all. Ive done this before with girls im not attracted to its a miserable experience so I tell her im going to the bathroom and don't come back.

I approach a girl in a red dress. She's cool we chit chat. I approach one girl that tells me i was overbearing. I find out from manwhore later that its cuz my eyes were too wide while i was talking to her, which is a deal closer… its funny cuz i was working on my eye contact thats probably why they were so wide. Lol

At one point my state CRASHES hard im not approaching anything wafering around aimlessly. So i exit the club and chill. Im trying to fix my contact when a door guy asks im ok. I tell him im trying to fix my contact and he gives me free drink pass. I immediately open two girls at the bar when i go back inside and im back baby. I chill and sip my amf.
Its awesome when i feel like shit i can turn it around. Used to not be able to.

I approach more girls theres a cute german girl and we actually kind of hit it off. She tells me she can understand me because i speak clearly (thanks MW ;)

She ends up going into a different set. I befriend the two brothers that are in set with their friends. I can see later that its on with one of them and one of her friends. And i see my chick with his bro. For some reason im like oh thats cool i "should" let them do their thing.

Not gangster I totally should have gone back in and snagged my girl. She wasn't even being physical with the bro. Gayness
Its like after i had built rapport with those guys, it made me stop

oh well its all good cuz tomorrow i have a breakthrough...

Im digging the "2 seconds" thing, that shit works.


8/22/2012

Me and my summit crew head to Surrender. Im feeling good as hell, just pumping my own/each others state. We're singing, dancing and being little fairy boys on the way there. We exit Palazzo and theres a girl with her parents im like "HEY" she's anime eyes. We were talking about which direction the club was and i start asking her, "is this the direction, do u think THIS is the right way" and she's just giggling like she doesn't know whats going on we start interacting with the parents too i twirl her around and she's just loving it. we keep walking with them but realize we're waiting for our buddy so we stop. A blonde girl comes our way my friend just opens his arms and she just gravitates into him and hugs him back. We were being so fucking self amusing it was just bound to happen. I grab her from behind and am hugging her from behind while homie has her from the front and he's like halfway joking like "NO, ALEX, SHES MINE" It was fucking awesome- like shit i see when I watch pickup videos, so this blonde girl ends up chilling with us and thinking we're the shit. She's on her way to the same club so she rolls with us. Two of the guys im rolling with have been going out literally every night over summer, and they're serious about this shit, so, one of them especially, literally approaches EVERYTHING. He like pushes me into this dudes girlfriend, and i back away then he goes in just extending his hand lmao… she didn't take it and the dude is like did u really expect her to take ur hand?? PROPS to this guy tho that is definitely how you get fucking sick at this.

So we enter the club, he opens a group of foreign girls + guy, theres a language barrier they cant understand everything he's saying. I can tell when i enter too that they're weirded out that we came in to their group. He's asking them where they are staying. They have trouble understanding and are making weird faces. Instead of shying away homie is like "WHERE ARE U STAYING" up in the dudes face lmao. The dude actually breaks down his defenses and is like "ohhh, shah, were staying bla bla bla" it was cool to see bc he was being SO nonchalant about it, even tho at first they were weirded out like who is this guy/what does he want, it ended up being like, oh, this is actually just natural conversation it would be weird for US not to respond to this guy(basically buy into his frame)

I roll up on an asian bitty and start dancing, she's like stunned, then "Yes?"
I ask her if she's rolling into club she says later. Once again were trying to find girls to go in with so we don't have to pay. I see a SMOKING hot brunette in the line. I drool when I see her and im like "Hey" she looks at me and smiles then looks away, im like "yo" she doesn't look back, so i take her wrist look her dead in the eye "That dress, is FLY" she's like "Haha thanks!" *anime eyes. From here i fucked it up like *ohh she likes me now yayyyy im gayyyyy* so i started stuttering like asking her a question that i didn't even give a fuckabout, and then just leaving cuz i didn't know what the fuck i was doing. Im sure this confused the fuck out of her. I should have just held onto her wrist, kept that sexy eye contact, and even made things a little akward by just standing her to allow her to speak, and gone in and hugged her.

So even the guestlist line is abysmally long, we go to the back of it. A few shorties enter behind us, but not directly behind us, so I walk over the rope, go over to them and start dancing. They have NO CHOICE but to crack up. Especially the girl im staring at. So im like "hey do u guys wana skip ahead in line with us, we'll go in together" before they can even react same GAY door guy is like "Sir you cannot go over the ropes we will have to kick you out bla bla," im like thanks for being a cockblock fuck and go back to my place in line.

We wait in line for a while. Finally get in an end up having to pay. Whatever we didn't pay last 2 nights.

I roll up in there feeling only half thug after that long wait. Say whatup to a few guys. Some of the guys here are BEASTS. Straight approach machines. This gets me in a better mood just watching these guys. So i begin my mini rampage. Whats funny is as I get more into this I feel like i remember less and less. Less details and such. I feel its because im thinking less and just doing, so my brain isn't working hard and capturing every memory or something. Whatever

I approach a few girls don't remember, one of my first approaches tho is some blonde girl walking my direction i take both her hands put them on my chest and she's anime eyed out asks me who i am and i pull her in for the 5 second kiss. We're about to chat but then her friend escorts her away from me. I don't really care. All i know is im feeling so fucking good it doesn't bother me at all. I roll up into a set of a bunch of girls, tap tap on shoulder "2 seconds" turn her around, hold her in my arms "Hey, I wanted to say hi" anime eyes starts asking me questions about me. This girl is HOT too. I chat with her, talk to a friend who's birthday it is, take a picture of them, then grab my girl again. Put her hand on me again and tell her to dance with me. She's like I cant I have a bf. Im like ok wtvr and ride out

Yeah, i could have stuck in set, tried for some, "i don't care if u have a boyfriend, actually what a relief finally a girl i can really talk to thats not just trying to get in my pants or dump her boyfriend bla bla" but i want to get this shit in my head while i can that its OK TO DRAG HOT GIRLS OUT OF CONVERSATIONS AND AWAY FROM GUYS/GIRLS cuz ive literally never done this before with success and this shit is clicking tonight for me, since im just having fun with it.

So i roll in on more bishes. Grab some girl and start dancing with her without saying anything. i think she initiates convo, but its more sparse. She's trying to come up with reasons why she shouldn't dance with me. Like she's enjoying it but she's also shaking her finger at me and trying to tool me. She tells me i have soft hands. I joke around that she has man hands what does she do construction? I start freestyle rapping to her for my own self amusement she's like i don't date eminem im like wtf girl check urself im no eminem. At one point she is giving me QUITE a bit of resistance, so my brain just fires off into "What to you want me to do? Just GIVE UP and not be a real man? That would be some pussy ass shit and im not going to do that she starts laughing and her defenses go down. But still she's being gay she may have said she has a bf i don't remember so I leave tell her to have a good night.

Im grabbing girls hugging them and stuff getting some blowouts but i literally don't care.

Theres a CUTE ass blonde dancing with guys and girls and i literally just walk in the middle of their group and twirl her around and then grab her by her waist hips and start dancing with her. Then i start talking to her which i kind of wish i wouldn't have bc its a really good exercise to state pump while not talking. its easier that way cuz u cant TRY to make the girl like you when u cant talk. Cool shit. Anyway a guy in her group grabs her and i go BACK in and take her again. She's laughing and she's like "Thats my boyfriend!" im like "seriously" and the dude is like yeah this is my girlfriend. I believe them

Go in on some Cute little blonde girl in a mixed set and take her hand but she instantly pulls it away. She's still friendly but just not receptive to my touch. She's from las vegas and probably does not want to look like a slut with her social circle being right there. Its cool that im actually putting pieces together like this. Im cool with it and bounce out after meeting one of her guy friends.

Im walking thru the club i SWEAR i see Rick Ross. Dude looked EXACTLY like him, but it didn't look like there were many bodyguards- there was one big guy with him but thats it. Should have gone up and found out, I like the guys music could have taken a pic with him or something, but im completely focused on grabbing chicks. Theres a girl sitting and i just take her hand so she gets up, I get all up on her dancing with her she loves it but leaves. Could have pursued but whateva im having too much fun

Roll up on a group of girls grab her right above shoulder the girl freaks out. Im standing there keep engaging her in conversation she starts saying stuff like why are you being werid this is akward im like "YOURE being weird and akward and just start shimmying. She asks why im shimmying i tell her bc i ilke to. She's being gay im like "your not a nice girl are you, you're parents didn't raise you to be a nice girl. You're mom didn't tell you to talk to nice boys did she" her friends actually are smiling I can tell they think im cool but this girl wasn't having it. she leaves her friends are like "i don't know whats up with her" - whatevs

I keep romping but start losing energy. This whole idea of "state" hit me on another level tonight. I feel like it used to be some abstract thing that I had no control over. But now I realize its fucking easy if you are ALWAYS you're own source of validation. Constantly be receiving your own energy and vitality for life from within yourself. This is what people respond well to.

And you have a fucking blast. But for me, right now, its hard to keep this "woo" up, as Tim from RSD would call it. It will take practice but i definitely had a breakthrough tonight. I was just plainly and simply doing crazier things than ive ever done before. Like grabbing girls away from guys they're dancing with. Its not so bad when you feel like GOD. hahahaha

what makes it weird is when you're all nervous about it like "is this okay????" of course its not okay, according to societal norms that are in place. The thing is, is it really ok? YES. this actually made their night MORE INTERESTING. The girl was cracking up. The guy wasn't even mad. Im sure he was also laughing on the inside when i did this.

In Owen's speech today he told us about how he and a friend of his had this epiphany one night at XS, and were grabbing girls from their boyfriends and making out with the girls IN FRONT of their boyfriends. But the social pressure was so strong because they were SO SELF AMUSED and didn't give a FUCK that the boyfriends didnt even stop them and were actually like "this is the most amazing shit ive ever seen in my life"

Damn.

Oh yeah i also roll up on some chick in the middle of the night at some point who is the owner of her own jewelry company and this chick was DECKED out in crazy jewelry that she all hand makes herself. The company is literally her and her friend she was with. We chill they tell me that im cool and we smoke a spliff in the middle of Surrender. G shit

Like i said i get low energy later on, its funny compared to how i was earlier, im just NOT having fun, and i can tell even before i go in to approach that its NOT going to work. I definitely get some blowouts, and even more girls that i just don't approach.

in the middle of all this too i see my leopard girl grab her # and text her.

I roll out of there meetup with some homies and shoot the shit a little. Im fucking tired and actually starting to feel sick. I AM sick now as im currently writing this. Whatever its nothing to a pimp.

@Alex123:

8/23/2012

We go to Tryst tonight my homies are ON POINT on the way to the clup approaching everything. I feel gay 'cuz im comparing myself against them.

Me and one of my homies go appraoch these girls watching fireworks at Treasure Island. Id remember the approach. but the girls end up LOVING us, telling us we are SO FUNNY. at one point the hot one looks at me and is like "I like you a lot," I grab her in to hug/molest her and then she starts giggling pushing me away telling me i remind her of her *little brother*....

I get SUPER reactive to this. Lmao right after Owen had made a point today about how to remain as *ice* when girls give you shit. Just so happens she pressed one of my buttons and I basically flipped out internally. I started calling her an old grandma and making fun of how old she was. Which was actually pretty funny and she was laughing but it was NOT coming from the right place. I was actually resentful of this chick now. This is a personal issue that i need to work out for myself because over the course of my life ive taken a lot of shit from girls about being really nice and cute but not being fuckable. This is why I love when girls think im an asshole/douchebag.

Anyway that shit was actually getting to me all the way til we got to Tryst. One of the french girls actually said "wow he must really be 15 hes so sensitive about it"... Yeah i got fucking worked up about it and left all pissy. Whatever.

We get to Tryst and get in after waiting in line. This club is unlike anything ive seen in Vegas. its almost exclusively dancefloor game. Since im not feeling high energy and actually feeling like crap this is not good for me I walk around awhile like a chode. I finally go outside to the waterfall area and talk to this Wife. She's hot and actually loves me. Im petting her arms like Todd talks about while talking about mundane shit, but her sister/friends blow me out. Theyre like "Can you BACK OFF??" I look at my girl and she's giving them a dirty look like wtf. Then I tell her "If you want me to leave I'll go" and shes like "Youre SO Sweet, its just that were on our bachelorette party and its supposed to be a girls' night....." I can tell this was genuine so wtvr I leave. Chode around more. Open some sets half assed. One tells me to leave. IM like "what if i dont." they leave.

I grab this girl on the dancefloor and im talking in her ear i think she likes it okk, but then tells me shes married and to "go find some hot young babe and bone her. Take her to your room and bone her." i try with her a little more but its not happening so I leave.

I talk to this super cutie by the waterfall, shes 35, a teacher, her sister's getting married so its another bachelorette party. She tells me shes 12 yrs older than her sis im like wtf u guys look the same age. Shes got the anime eyes but idk man.... its like the same *youre such a sweet guy* type vibe. I just want to put my dick in her no strings attached. Idk how to let girls know this better without stating it explicitly and have them leave in disgust. I grab her # before she leaves turns out its a fake #.

I should have just pulled her in for the makeout i was being a pussy bc i wasnt "in state" but thats bullshit. Fucking bullshit I know better to execute the program no matter what.

I chode more. Go to the bathroom 'cuz i feel like shit emotionally and it helped me to take a break the other night at Pure. Turns out the energy of the entire club is just above mine im not having luck breaking into sets making that good impression. Theres a girl dancing like she took WAY too much mali. Im watching her for awhile, along with like 10 other guys this girl is going HAM. I grab her and pull her in and talk to her then put my hand on her ass shes like "Dont touch my bum!" and moves my hand away. I leave. At SOME point im feeling like such a pussy i get a sudden boost of "IM TIRED OF THIS BULLSHIT" and approach machine several sets. Appraoching everything. This lasts about 10 minutes where i grab a cigarette off a girl and start smoking it, then open this tall brunette and she bumps into my cigarette it burns her and she tells me to "get the fuck away from her" i stop machine approaching.

I meet up with a cool dude from my crew who LITERALLY approached everything, during the day in between seminars ALWAYS he pushes me into a few sets. A hot blonde who i sit down with and tell her im taking her for icecream when she says her and her friend are leaving. She gives me her # its also fake. I just wasnt bringing the fun tonight.

Overall a pretty shitty night for me. One of my dudes i rolled in there with got 15 makeouts and one with a hot milf as soon as we had entered the club. I just couldnt relate at all.

I leave the club like 20min before close and sit and text my Surrender leopard.
Im sitting at the slot machines and see my beastly bros beasting. I walk with them. *Texas* i will call him goes up to a 3 set and picks a girl up and starts throwing her around she is LOVING it. *Philly* goes in and macks the other 2 while i kinda just watch. *Texas* is tossing his girl around dancing with her like a fucking G and we end up leaving the hotel with the 3 of them. We're walking trying to get a cab to go somewhere to eat, Texas is alternating between the girls dancing with them to keep the others entertained since he wants to fuck his chick. His girl actually trys to build rapport with me being SUPER friendly with me even tho im not saying shit, just bc of how awesome Texas is being.

It ends up not working out cabs wont pick us up on the main strip and the girls leave to go to a stripclub....

we keep walking Philly goes "IM THE KISSING BANDIT YOU MAY NOT PASS WITHOUT KISSING ME" to girls on the street and is making out with girls on the street. My mind is just being blown right now. We all 3 grab 3 girls on the street the two of them hoist them up and molest them i dont have as much luck with mine. I ask Philly about it later he tells me "Its that split second you have like *is this ok?- I dont have that, I just grab them putting my arm around them acting drunk and they cant resist 'cuz they would be resisting fun" im like fuck yeah.

We keep walking they grab 2 more girls up and start making out with them im just like...... I cant keep up right now thats all im thinking but I am having the time of my life watching these guys. I follow them into Harahhs for a bit and watch them game, its late as fuck I go back to my hotel.

Fucking eye opening. These guys i was with tonight havent been gaming that long but they look like Tyler and Julien do in their videos that they show... If i had recorded them we could have broken down what they were doing in seminar tomorrow just like the guys that have been doing this for years. Fucking crazy

@Alex123:

8/24/2012

So I forgot to mention this but I had started to feel a bit sick by the end of the night at surrender, and I WAS sick at Tryst last night, maybe that contributed to my poor performance/low energy. If Tryst wasnt bad enough tonight i literally had NO energy. So after walking to the club with my boys and their girls they had met earlier in the day to bring into the club. and after chugging a redbull and realizing it did NOTHING. i decided to just go home and get some sleep. People were giving me shit for this but i think it was a good decision. INstead of paying $40 to kick myself in the club for not approaching and feeling like shit. Felt way better in the morning.

8/25/2012

Last day of summit.

Determined to give it my all tonight. Which I did. Lumpy and I wait in line and he is *tetris-ing* the shit out of this asian couple and they are loving it. Just running his mouth saying strange obscure things but then saying more shit so they dont focus on the weird as much. Jeffy had just talked about this today and he was doing well with it.

So we get in and im like ok lets do the *punch each other if we dont approach* drill. Which we do and its awesome. I open some 30 something yr old and she likes it so im like lets go get a drink. (I wanted to practice leading its my sticking point right now). So we go to the bar and i ask her what she wants. I go for the makeout and shes like "wtf" im like "what" shes looking at me all weird i proceed to explain to her "im not going to just stand here talking to you friend to friend all night, im going to go for what i want cus im a fucking man" or something and shes like "well THAT wasnt the time" im thinking in my head *whatever bitch anytimes the time* so I end up buying this woman a drink and its $30 for our drinks. Im thinking wtf did i do that. I could have just bought myself a drink. She gives me a kiss on the cheek "thats all you get for now" and laughs evily. Lmao. So i tell her lets go find your friends but the bitch ends up leading ME, doing a lap around the club with me following her. Wasnt sure how to correct this. Needless to say when we get back im on her shit shes like "stop being on my shit, we can hang out but i dont want u all over me all night" im like WHAT THE FUCK EVER and leave. Lumpy and I proceed to hit it HARD.

I open a BUNCH of girls. Whats funny is as i do this more i remember less and less of what i say. and just less in general. But i open one blonde girl and talk with her a bit. open more girls then go back to her, i turn her around tell her "im not done with you", isolate her from her friends but not far away at all tell her "were going to start a family in LA, were going to do some progressive shit like open a videogame shop. Or actually were going to grow the dankest weed ever together and make millions" shes laughing but then tells me she has an 18yr old boyfriend and only likes guys that are younger than her.... WTF???? Her friends tell me they want to have her back and so i give her to them but dude... never heard that one before.

Lumpy and I are on a rampage. I open some girl whos bf is right there but shes digging it and then points out her bf im like "oh ok man" and hes actually happy, compliments me on my *balls* and tells me he needs to be doing that shit more. Haha. Im like thanks bro.

We keep hitting shit hard and thats when I run into my half asian girl Erica who i made another post on here about. I open her by asking if shes half asian and telling her those are my favorite type of girls ;), lifting her up from her seat and twirling her. I fucking loved this girl but whatever man. She liked me a lot too but i guess im just not enough of a pimp yet to have bagged her. My arms around her the second time i saw her was miscalibrated- it wouldnt have been if i had forced the attraction we had for each other earlier but i was unsuccessful in doing this and i was distracted. She was my perfect type of girl too shes a cheerleading coach.

I find Lumpy again after losing Erica and we hit shit hard again. Eventually me, him, and Philly 2.0 leave to go to XS. I thought it was free after 3am but i guess apparently not. On the way there we hit up EVERYTHING in Encore. Literally burned that hotel lobby to the fucking ground. One set that stood out to me was this set of like 7 or 8 asian girls standing around in a circle. Ozzie had said earlier in the week that one of his HI INtensity Training *challenges* was to walk in the middle of a group of girls like this and stare around akwardly. Philly 2.0 told me to do this and i did... Lmao and the girls LOVED it!! Hahaha they were like "Youre so creepy! like out of a scary movie!" giggling and shit and im like "yeah i know" and start telling them I want to get orange chicken with them. Theyre all laughing im like "CHICKEN W BROCCOLI GIRL!!! RAMEN NOODLE SOUPP!" hahahahahaahah

Philly 2.0 tells me i looked like a boss in there. Asian guys nearby give us props.

I open more hotties one girl I stop her tell her "you look like u just got out of a broadway musical" she LOVES it her bf is like "DONT FUCKING TOUCH HER" she like "did u hear what he said!!?!? he said i look!"$#*(&#$() he's like "HE LOOKS LIKE A FUCKING DIPSHIT"

Lumpy goes "UR MOM LOOKS LIKE A DIPSHIT" HAHAHAAHA

hilarious times.

After opening like fucking crazymen we head home. I eat steak and eggs w Philly 2.0 we talk shit about our night the dude is crazy grabbing food from tables that just left the hostess is giving us so much shit. Fun times

We talk about how, no matter what kinds of results were getting right now, we're happier than we've ever been. Because we are taking action.

There is so much more to be gained from this than getting girls. This does crazy things to our emotions after being rejected so many times. I can already feel how am less and less phased by bullshit.

Giving myself to this journey.


EDIT:

Forgot to mention this but at one point a SMOKING hot blonde is giving me some great eye contact so I go in without breaking it, tell her she's fucking adorable and spin hug her. She says thank you, laughing and is like "Alex!" i put her down and look over to see who she's talking to. Turns out its Alex from RSD LMAO.

I had picked up his girlfriend. Hahaha. He looks over and doesnt care at all. I actually end up talking with him for awhile he's really cool. She's awesome too. Its crazy how these girls are just completely cool with their boyfriends' jobs being to fuck chicks. Completely reverse of social conditioning. And this girl was freaking beautiful. Anyway just thought that was funny

@Alex123:

I missed the move-in period to my new apt since I was in Vegas. So my dad helped me move a couch in there today.

My electronic key thing isnt working at the door so I get a girl to open it for me. Talk to her briefly. I get her name, shes giving me anime eyes. For some reason I assume Im going to see her again- I dont grab her #. This was a stupid assumption. I should have asked her what she was up to tonight- wtvr

Move that shit in there im super pumped to have my own place its going to be awesome.

Get home and im watching Tyler's video on meditation and literally cant stay awake. I guess the fact i was on a plane most of the day monday and all night. My sleeps fucked.

I lay in bed considering not going out but im like FUCK I HAVE COMMITED MYSELF TO THIS GAME THERE IS NO OPTION. I get out of bed rinse off and roll out.

So Ive made the decision to go out every TuThuFriSat. No exceptions. Also to do daygame 2x per week havent decided the days yet.

Anyway i get out and im just trying to pump my own state some dude daps me. I make a face at this blonde girl cuz shes acting confused and she laughs. I think it is apparent as i continue to talk with her and her fat friend that i want something from her (sex). lmao. I can FEEL myself projecting this shit cuz im so fucking scarcity mode right now I even annoy myself with this shit. Idk how to get over it besides simply executing the program. Anyone have tips?

So i go in there, miss some approaches im just trying to amp myself up i hate feeling like the "let me into your party" guy and it doesnt fucking work. So i pump myself up walk upstairs. Cute blonde i open immediately I spin her around she is receptive. Im talking with her and her friend who is hot too is all smiles and introduces herself to me asking me how i know blondie im like we just met. I quit leading. I give the interaction too much space. This is all a game of calibration folks. Either im not giving the girl enough space or im giving her too much. Fuck.

So I ask them (seems like theyre discussing leaving) if she is leaving my girl tells me theyre going to another bar.

So i do icecream #close and she's like "right now?" in fact both of them say this. I am on autopilot to just get her # so im like no, not right now.

Looking back this was retarded, I could have stayed in set with these girls they were like the cutest girls I saw all night. Especially considering my texting sucks ass it would have been a smarter move.

You know whats so fucked up? I just realized as im writing this. I feel so fucking desperate for girls.. Its like... pathetic. I think one of the reasons i eject from sets is like.. i feel like she will realize im desperate for pussy, and then back away from me. And i feel like, If i grab the #, I can hide behind it or something and get the girl to hang out with me and get a day 2, and trick her into thinking Im not desperate. Wow. That is so backwards. I need to get over the feeling of scarcity i have inside I should start doing my affirmations which i have neglected to do all summer. This miserable attitude is probably like 50% of the reason that I fucking suck at this right now.

Anyway its good i write these up- i notice shit like that.

So I get her #, she squeezes my hand and is smiling at me I should have just led them out of the bar to the other bar. But like I said I felt incapable of handling the situation. Leading two hot girls around and being that cool guy that they love hanging out with. I CANT HELP my subconscious mind from thinking "they wont really like me, im really a loser who cant get girls and theyll realize this if i go hang out with them. theyll realize that im just good at opening because i practice stupid moves like the retarded waltz dance"

THIS IS THE SHIT MY SUBCONSCIOUS MIND IS TELLING ME. FUCKKK dude. I HAVE to get over this. Going out is not enough if my subconscious brain is sabotaging me the whole time. Its like what Tyler was saying in his video earlier about "focusing on what you dont want" i need to focus on what I DO want.

I went in tonight expecting to get blown out a whole bunch. But you know what? EVERY SINGLE GIRL I talked to responded positively to me tonight. Not a SINGLE one didnt smile at me, or give me some sort of IOI. I dont even know when the last time thats happened was.... Ever?? Lol.

And guess what? Every single set I BLEW MYSELF OUT. Because i was expecting it to *NOT* work. Thats how idiotic I am. I have to realize my own worth, even though I am not seeing results right now. I have to realize on a much deeper level, that it's not anything * intrinsically* wrong with me, rather due to problems growing up, social conditioning, things I was taught when I was younger... I have to truly realize that its NOT my fault that I have not been able to have sex with girls up until this point. I have to UNFUCK my head up because to be real I am very fucked up in the head.

I feel like the only way I can really save myself from myself is to be completely honest here. So I will be. I have only had sex with 4 girls in my life- one of them was a prostitute. The other 3 were one night stands. And out of those NONE of them even should count as real sex. I couldnt get fully hard for any of those. Ive never given a girl an orgasm. I guess for this reason, my subconscious brain KEEPS looking at the past. At my pain body. and keeps telling me the same shit over and over- that i am not enough. If i could just reverse this cycle. I know my results would improve dramatically. My outer game is better than its ever been. I am more calibrated than ever. If i can just get rid of these fucking demons in my head.....

Anyway I probably sound like a total headcase. Whatever. I have to be honest with myself and put this all out there or I feel like I will never get over this.

So I get that girls # and text her. All I really had to go off of was that she wasnt 21 yet, she likes icecream altho she doesnt have an icecream machine in her sorority, and she is in DZ

me: Hey xx it was good meeting you. U strike me as someone spontaneous you'll make the perfect accomplice for my icecream truck robbery ; )

-nothing

I walk a girl opens me. She hangs out with the wrestlers at my school a lot and recognizes me. We have a reintroduction shes trying to show me pics of naked girls at pudding wrestling the other week when an old friend of mine comes into our set. I joke around with him, and he talks to some girl i push him aside like "Dont talk to him talk to me;) to this girl she loves it. I can tell he is super embarassed the dude has no game. He proceeds to try to make excuses for my behavior i fall into his frame kind of and tell the girl i just like fucking around and back off. I dont want to tool this guy cuz hes an old friend and hes hanging with his younger brother who is a good friend, and this girl works at chilis and thats social circle shit wtvr

I hang with them for a bit i can tell the girl is attracted to me but i plainly am not giving myself enough self worth to take her from him.

I open a girl in a blue dress put her hands on my chest. Talk to her and im like leaning up into her ear, so theres not as much eye contact as there should have been as I narrate to her what she is feeling. I tell her "ur like who is this guy im going to just go back to my friends now bla bla" and I narrate her into going back to her friends. She looks back at me with a confused look, and I dont grab her and bring her back to me. I know i for sure would have in Vegas. For some reason here im like scared to be bold bc i know i will see these people again. But I also know that if i continue to play it like i did tonight im never going to get laid.

I open another girl our conversation is kind of weird. She introduces her friend and then they have this thing going on where theyre like making shit up and telling me shit. I think i wasnt man to woman enough with her or something. Idk. It was a lame set i leave.

Another girl is making a face as she walks by i tap her and make that face at her. She asks me if we know each other im like "no lets get to know each other" she says "later," and walks off

I am a total pussy I only open easy sets, and even miss some. before going to vegas I would have thought i did alright, but in vegas i was opening mixed sets galore, which had previously been a sticking point and tonight i didnt open any mixed sets. Like i said im like afraid to fuck things up for people when i know i will see them again.

Writing this up right now is embarrassing. I actually care more about the views of people on this forum than people that go to school here. So just by knowing i will be writing about my nights on here and being completely honest, that will make me step my game up.

Go to another bar see another old friend. Im not approaching enough- theres not that many people there- and im used to vegas where theres 3 smokeshows per fatty. I should approach more of the less attractive girls here just for practice.

I head out, talk to a girl as im walking to my car make her laugh. Go to another bar theres almost no one in there. Shoot the shit briefly with the door man, probably should have talked to him longer. Get a burrito. Stand outside looking at a cute girl in set with a bunch of lames. Dont open her bc im being lame.

As im driving I actually see a super cute blonde girl walking. I park my car nearby to get out and talk to her 'cuz i thought she was going into the restaurant there. Turns out its closed and I dont find her. Go into another bar theres no one there. Go home.

Phew. On one hand props to me for committing to going out, and for being completely and utterly honest with myself. On the other hand...

I need to not "play it safe." there is no "half a gangster."

I realize I am all fucked up in the head right now. Probably almost more importantly than going out right now I need to do positive affirmations for myself. And stop allowing myself to judge myself based on past performance.

I need to hit the gym that ALWAYS makes me feel better. Do things outside of game that will build my inner confidence back up. I am severely lacking in confidence right now.

Sorry if this FR had too much personal information in it. I felt like i just had to get it off my chest or it would fucking linger. I actually feel better. I know I am truly worthwhile, its just so many years of me thinking that I wasnt that I have to overcome.

@Alex123:

I shouldn't be so hard on myself. Thinking back to even a few weeks ago- I would not have done what I just did- and what ive been doing- without atleast having a few drinks in me, or being in some uber state, which I wasn't.

Today and all week in Vegas- I've been completely sober.

Small victories. Thank you Katalyst.