Keeping the fire going

Dude you think you had a good vibe with this girl already you OBVIOUSLY didn't. Geezez 

Yeah I did. Send me a pic I've got alzheimers  

maybe lol  I want to see if you are music video material 

@MW What about that text makes you say that my vibe with her must have sucked? 

Because in general girls are more than willing to send a guy pics if they have anything even remotely resembling interest in him. You're fixing it now 

Ok she hasn't responded yet I'll post when she does 

I'm really curious to know though what you guys think about my texting with her when I was getting advice from my natural friend... If there was anything good about it, if you think it's total shit, just what you're guys' opinions on it are because IMO she was liking it, but according to MW I am SUPER far off base. So just wondering 

(I'm talking about my Overall vibe here, I know the first text is gay as fuck-- Sent it b/c my friend told me to but after I did we both agreed it was supergay

me: Had fun kissing you tonight

next day

her: Hey haha yeah that party was fun let me know when you have parties at *my building :)

me: Come turn up with me at *my building tonight! There's a party at my friend place. :)

her: Okay cool ill see if my friends are down to go

me: Hey, the party's not starting till later tonight, I'll hit you up when it's a good time to come through

her: Ok sounds good

me: Hey where you at?

her: What room number is the party at?

her: We are on our way

me: Room #

her: K be there soon

me: Cool

her: How

her: Sorry didn't mean to send that lol can you have someone come get us at the elevator

me: Which one?

next day

me: Hey I'm grabbing a movie and we might watch in the theater tonight, want to join?

her: Who's all going

me: Me and my friend Trevor. If u wana bring Alexa or one of your friends that'd be cool

her: What movie are you guys gonna watch?

me: Fast and Furious 6

her: I asked everyone has homework :/ maybe another day

3 days later

me: Hey what you up to

her: Hey nothing much what bout you?

me: Drinkin, wana join?

her: I have a work meeting early tomorrow :/

me: Oh common we all have stuff to do in the morning lets have fun!

her: Haha my boss knows when Im hung over he'd kill me!!

me: Ok pussy:p

her: Ok be like that:P

3 days

me: Yoooo, want to watch a movie tomorrow night?

her: What movie?

me: Fast and Furious 6 never got to watch it since I didn't reserve the theatre last time

her: Oh I'm sorry yeah I'm free tomorrow

me: Alright it's reserved for 8 so you should come by around 7

me: Actually we're going to have a BBQ on the roof before the movie, first for my buddies last day in town

me: Are you coming tonight?

her: Yeah should I bring Alexa?

me: Yeah sure

me: We're starting at 7

her: Ok cool is your friend still going to the movies?

her: Alexa cant go until 8 for the bbq is it okay if we go at 8?

me: That's cool

after BBQ

her: Sorry I had to leave early but it was nice seeing you again :)

me: You too :)

next day

me: Still down for pool later?

her: Yeah :)

me: Cool u should come over around 7 or after you have dinner

at 6:30

me: You coming at 7?

her: I just got off work :/ imm a grab something to eat then head over is that cool?

me: Yeah I'm still doing laundry and stuff anyway

me: Just let me know when you're on your way

her: Okay

her: Im on my way :)

me: K

her: Hey im here

me: Circle drive?

her: Yep

me: Coming down

after we hungout

her: Have fun back home :)

how many times have you hungout and what has gone down?

4 times.

1st I met her at her party, madeout, got her #'

2nd my friends party 

3rd at my BBQ 

4th she came over we played pool and madeout on my bed while I had a movie on

Tried to go from more but realized after talking w MW that my escalation was off

you are friendzone

Trail of friendzone are highlighted

She always asks who are you going with, who she is bringing

This has gone on long enough and has become a habit for her, doesnt matter if you kiss her, that emotion is gone

yeah. and thats normal. dont stress on this chick too much it might be done already but fuck it 

So she didn't respond

Should I hit her with another text?

What didn't she respond to I'm not following. 

This is where it left off on Thursday

Her: Omg haha rocking them nikes!

me: Yeah nikes are good gerbil bait apparently. What are you rockin currently

her: That's so sad lol did you kill them? And I'm rockin a white t haha

me: Hell no I don't kill gerbils! I train them to be guard dogs

me: Send me a pic

her: Did you forget what I look like already haha

me: Yeah I did. Send me a pic I've got alzheimers

Oh if she didn't respond to that you were still supposed to keep going. You got to get this concept out of your head that you have to wait till she responds back. That's complete and utter horseshit and it's permission-boy on top of that. 

Ok here you are not supposed to wait you are supposed to keep on going you've put yourself into another weird spot. Now instead of being able to go with the "aggressive" hard-driving attitude we were developing, we've got to go into "reengagement"/recovery mode. 

"Yup. Definitely alzheimers" 

damn,duude! I do all the same shit! And especially this. just read this and I see like the zillion times in front of my eyes, when  I wrote something that I thought 'deserved' an answer, and if it didn't come, I'd kind of wait it out, like a sullen litte permission boy. I always thought: "bah, girls..  whatever,.. well its done for now. Might try in few weeks again."  If worth at all. damn.damn damn.

 thread could also be about me, lol. lots of eye-openers here. But this one just hit home!

Following this closely.

Word I've been told I send too many texts so I've been trying to keep it more minimal

I sent "Yup. Definitely alzheimers" 3+ hrs ago she hasn't responded

So what would the proper procudeure be from here

 At this point you might as well send her a pic of the Buddha. Only he can help 

Lol what's "the buddah"

VADER IS THE TRUTH, VADER IS THE WAY

send this pic with: (optional: "doing whatever" join me)...  together we shall/can rule the galaxy.

if she say some negative shit, you say: I find your lack of faith disturbing, young grasshopper.

If she's positive about it, you say: welcome to the dark side, young grasshopper.

Then carry on... have faith... the force is strong in yooooou.

I used this today. lol

me: Hey fashion bug. Saw some plush towels at target today, reminded me of you ;)

her: Haha why did plush towels remind you of me ? How was back home? :)

me: Cuz of your towel shirt! I'm still here it's been great tho, I'll be back Monday

her: Ohh haha I totally forgot about that!!! How's your video coming along?

me: Awesome, I'll show you some behind the scenes footage when I get back

her: Sounds good
6 days
me: Come over later feed me grapes and I'll show you these scenes
her: Feed you grapes? What am I your slave?  Haha
me: I don't really have slaves I prefer concubines. Just kidding are you free today otherwise I'm gonna go do something else
her: You can do whatever you have to do we can hangout some other time
me: Well what's so scary about grapes lol. Come over later I'm relaxing from getting back still
me: *Funny pic of me on golfcart w friend "Best day of gerbil hunting I've had in awhile
her: Omg haha rocking them nikes!
me: Yeah nikes are good gerbil bait apparently. What are you currently rockin
her: Thats so sad lol did you kil them?  And I'm rockin a white t haha
me: Hell no I don't kill gerbils! I train them to be guard dogs
me: Send me a pic
her: Did you forget what I look like already haha
me: Yeah I did. Send me a pic I've got alzheimers
3 days
me: Yup. Definitely alzheimers
3 days
me: :)
her: Hey :)
me: What are you up to punkin I'm doing some editing
her: Just doing some graphic crao for work and ohh nice
me: Pretty good I'm trying to take a break in a sec. What kind of graphic stuff you doing
her: Just some graphic t designs and how long have you been editing
me: Since dinosaur times. I'm gonna go kidnap some bar's jukebox and play nsync want to come with?
her: Haha very funny and what bar? Hahaha
me: 901 bar. It's for winners
me: You have an ID
her: Ya of course
me: I mean one u can get into bars with
her: Yeahh I use my sisters passport silly
me: That would suck to lose tho
her: True
me: I know
2 days
me: Hey sunshine thinking about pre partying here then rolling to xClub. If you don't have anything going on you're formally ordered to join ;)
her: Helllo :) okay sounds good ill see if any of the girls want to go out tonight
me: K I got us 6 free passes
me: We should be in line by 10:45 tho
couple hrs go by I call her it goes to voicemail
me: Lol whys your vm spanish
her: Haha everyone says that sorey I was showering but all the girls are flaking I dont think I can go babe
me: It's cool I don't like your haircut anyway
her: Like I give a dam what you think haha bye

Anyone have any ideas on what to do here? Just to reiterate I hung out with this chick before I left for 2.5 weeks, so this convo starts with a text i sent her while I was still gone

Like does she just have other dudes shes fucking with so she doesn't give a fuck about me anymore? Like I've said before she really liked hanging out with me when she was over here, said I was giving her chills and was kissing me while we were watching the movie, her voice sounded all submissive, I just didn't/couldnt escalate it to sex cuz she kept stopping me and kept going back to the edge of my bed

her: Like I give a dam what you think haha bye
me: I love the way you lie beb haha
me: All good, you just missed a hangover meets project x night.. no biggie
me: What's your schedule like this week Lo ?
her: Lo?

hahaha I picked the shortest nickname I could think of

Any ideas?

She just told you "I don't care what you think haha bye" 

I know what she said,

what are you saying though, that there is no recourse here?

I feel like I might as well try, I mean why is she still texting me back if she hates me that much?

Actually your response to it was pretty damn good lol. 

But asking her schedule after she's trying to diss you is just.. BAD. You're chasing her after she mocked you. It's ridiculous 

WTF dude, was only for you to pick a name,

I left one thing for you to do and you f*cked that sh*t up, the f*ck is wrong with you man! Geeezz... I got to do everything up in this motherf*cker!

lol I'm kidding... sort of.

Is a joke were you're pretending she's a girl you met yesterday and don't remember her name.

here a convo where I did that from last week:

me: how for parties this week?

her: Only friday and saturday

me: cool, what was your name again?

her: Hãn???

me: your name...

her: You kidding me right?

me: Aline? (her name is Julia)

her: Fuck you

me: Wait I know your name iiiis... Natalha  (kiss emoticon)

her: Fuck off idiot

me: LMFAO

me: just kidding juju

her: lol

me: juju or bibi? lol

me: choose wisely

her: You better! haha

me: what's gonna be

her: juju lol

me: wise choice young grasshopper lol

her: Young grasshopper hahah

me: are you on class Aline?

her: Yes peter                 (that's not my name)

me: lol

me: send a kiss to mary jane

me: ok... one for you too

me: I don't want jealousy in my webharem

her: Yeh I'll send to her lol

her: Where are you?

me: waiting for you..

me: on your room

her: What a good life han? hahah

me: bet ya ass hah

her: hahah

me: I'll be playing with your barbies, UFC style

me: they'll be fighting in bikinis for me

her: Are you okay? how much did you smoke today? lol

me: not as much as I would like lol

me: where do you hide your stach?

her: On my secreat vault

her: The key is with me though

me: dam woman!

me: meet me at starbucks

me: now

her: okay

We were both at campus easy logistics, I wasn't at her home, we don't smoke weed, all roleplay.

But with your girl you got to have her re engaged, I think you'll only be able to do that in person to have a more strong impact on her.

That joke of the name was supposed to get her reacting to you, but she wasn't even invested enough for it lol

To have her re engage through text  you would need to go stronger like "I hate you, or fuck you bitch" like drama shit, but if you don't know how to sculpt to something positive later then the fire can get out of hand. (one frame to have is that the drama is also a roleplay).

Or you could get her amused with some fun shit.

What I would do is back off a bit, if you found her in some party then go shoot the shit with her and remember her of your awesomeness.

But go get other girls.

LOL my bad I sent that alternative to him, shoot me.

But the context was to get her to react by messing up her name.

This thread is cool dude but I feel like you are very afraid to lose this chick.  Like just go for it.  Another thing is that you should totally have like more girls to talk to in the meantime so your not so choosey on wth to say to her.

Hey guys, so I last left things off with this chick on Thursday when I talked to her on the phone and made plans to hang out tomorrow (Tuesday)

What kind of text you guys think I should hit her with?

Hit her with the "traffic" text 

Her: Haha yes personal freeways for Alex

Ok answer it dude. 

her: Haha yes personal freeways for Alex

me: That's right boo

me: I mayyy let you ride shotty if u promise to be good :)

me: Bonnie 'n Clyde style

her: Lmfao ill try to be good then hahaha

me: Good :)

me: I'm driving now sleep tight

me: I expect you to be on your A game tomorrow

her: Goodnight :)

me: Soo you should pull up in the getaway car at 7

call her no response

me: Yo are you gonna be ready by 8 are we even doing this. I'm warning you I'll eat these cheesy curly fries by myself

her: Haha hey sorry got outta work late :/ just got home

me: Ok the batmobile will be by at 8:00 be ready boo. Youre at the mcdookie apt building right

her: ** apt haha

me: Alright I'll be outside ravioli bldg at 8

me: Wear something sleek and revealing so we match

her: Uhhh no lol

me: It's cool, Ill look good either way. See you at 8

her: Ill be the judege of that

Ride on. 

Soooo, not really sure what happened here

We went to this lookout point but it was gated off so it was a bust, then I took her back to my place which is close

I was being pretty physical with her off the bat which made her freaked out I guess?

So she basically just shut me down I was like ok... So I started doing my laundry on the bed while the movie was on. When I got done doing it she gets off and starts putting her sandals on like shes leaving.

Im like whats up.... She says shes going. I ask her what's wrong. Then we have a kind of serious convo and I keep trying to find out whats wrong here. She says I was being so touchy all over her and we havent seen each other in a really long time. Im like yeah i know I was trying to hang with you sooner and I ended up staying home for 2.5 weeks instead of 10 days which is what it was going to be originally. So I get her to stay for awhile, and finally she opens up a bit more, and were making out on my bed but shes still being such a fag. I try flipping the script on her a few times telling her Im not that easy and keep her hands to herself and stuff, and shes laughing and whatnot, at one point when shes on top of me she starts breathing heavy and stops resisting my holding her against me and grabbing her ass, and that was the peak of the interaction. but pretty much right after that she kept repeating that she had to go

Once again I didn't just pull my dick out bc i feel like she would have gotten super freaked out based on her behavior this whole time. I honestly feel like I backpeddled here and things were more on after the first time we hungout

As she leaves I go out the door and say "yo are you still feeling weird" (probly a bad move I should have just gone out and kissed her bye) and shes like "yeah a little bit" IM like "why?" shes like "youre a *name of my apt bldg* guy (she knows other guys that live here and thinks their sleezey I guess) and Im like "wtf does that even mean" and get a little pissed since she keeps bringing that up. Then she just leaves to go to her friends who lives in the same buidling, who she had been texting like the whole time we were at my spot

Not really sure what happened here I feel like things were more on after the first time we hungout than now I feel like its a super up-hill battle with this chick

When you got into your apartment were you physical with her before that?  At least a makeout?

While it could have been the whole going physical as soon as you got into the apartment I think the big thing here is you doing your laundry while your watching a movie.   Its basically saying "fuck watching this movie with you, cuz you dont wanna fuck me".    When she initially freaked out cuz you plowed her when you got into your apartment you shoulda just changed the subject away from sex but made it more engaging between the both of you.  Sit down, watch the movie with her,  talk about something, then build it up slowly.  

Im no expert but thats what I woulda done.

Sounds like there needed to be way more comfort here. Typically, when I see a girl through my "pickup pension" I am genuinely interested in what they've been doing. So I ask them and have that real conversation. It gets them more comfortable and reminds them why they hooked up with you in the first place. There's some more serious issues going on here if you haven't see her in only two weeks though. Or maybe she was on her period. 

Would it have been a newbie mistake to dry hump her when you both were making out? Wouldn't she get horny that way?

I started texting her again Wednesday

me: Hey how's it going

her: Pretty good and you??

me: Good I'm about to have the best sandwhich ever. Seriously this place kills the sandwhich gme...

her: What place??

Saturday

me: Nah you'll need an official escort. if you bring quarters for arcades I may be down ;)

her: Haha ill be sure to save up on quarters lol

what happened with the club thingy? you just stopped texting her 

Yeah i was out talking to other girls and it was like 1am so she was basically saying she woudlnt make it in time

Anyway

me: Hey loser

me: How's work

her: Great loser hows ur day

me: Pretty good I'm making a steak. Ever made one?

her: Nooope lol

me: It's pretty easy I should teach you. You can still make stuff that's healthy AND tastes good ya know

her: I doubt that haha but ill give it a try if u teach me

So im thinking of saying: "Cool that'll be fun, I'm down. Can u promise me 1 thing tho?

And when she asks what, say

"Please don't label me as a "medici guy" or think of me as some cog in an arbitrary wheel. I know thats what everybody does but I like spending time with *her name*, not some "piero girl". I'd appreciate the same in return

Last time she kept calling me a "medici guy" (name of apt building) when I was escalating on her, almost as her reason to not be more physical.  so I'm hoping to shape this so she can't pull that shit again

What do u guys think about this?

No just go for the meetup. Quit being gay and letting her know that shit is still spinning around in your head. You care too much. Get this girl alone again and make something happen but be more natural. Don't go hog wild with the escalation. Maybe make out and feel her up a bit. Then pull back hard and be like "Hey! I'm teaching you how to make steak so you can be nice and domesticated in the future, remember?" 

Literally, I hope you're fucking kidding but I know you're not. This is such a newbie mistake. A girl gives you a perfect window, she literally is beepgging for you to set something up and you wanna self sabotage yourself. 

G-Money thanks for telling me that was going to suck

Heres the rest from last night

me: Cool thatll be fun, I'm down

me: Can u promise me 1 thing tho?

her: Sureee lol

me: I may need u to bring a baking sheet ;)

me: If we do steak that is

her: btw do u have ig??

me: Ya whats ur name

her: *name

her: Okay noo problemm lol *blush emoji

me: soo lets hit Ralph's tomorrow

me: Once ur off work

her: Ya ill try :))

me: Lol try?

me: We can do a diff day, just let me know

Guess I messed up saying "lets hit Ralph's tomorrow" I probly should have said "what day is good for u" or "Im free wednesday is that cool"

What do u guys think, should I wait awhile to see if she makes a decision? 

Text her halfway into work:

"Just did (something cool. Closed a sale. Deal. Whatever). Forget the steak, meet me for drinks at 8"

Honestly, the steak is a badass idea but you wanna get her more invested first. That's a very tall task for a girl to come to your place and learn how to make steak. Like, it's borderline mysogynistic lol. Teach her that after you fuck her then she can cook for you

Hmm. I feel like you had something really good, she even seemed kind of uniquely excited for it, then you pooped on it with the baking sheet thing plus that next text. Always be flexible and receptive. I mean I could be wrong but I kinda thought she was all over that steak idea. That'd be a sexy date, lol. "Ok girl.. this is how you handle meat. Make sure it's a nice thick steak, and juicy. So that when you bite in it's still suculent.. 

Anyway. Um I forget the rest

Thanks for the help guys.

I texted her after she got off work yesterday as a "feeler" to see if she might be down to hang

me: I just made a new way to get stains out of white t's

me: Wyd

1hr

her: Oh nice how?? and i had to wait for my new bed

me: I'll tell ya later

her: ??? Haha okay

Not really sure how to bring up the steak again. I'm going to this Market which apparently has great meat selection for awesome prices

So I could text her a picture of a steak or something, but I want to bring it up in a way where she can't give me a "hard no" or try to push it off by saying "she'll try" or "maybe" or whatever