Text convo: Hottest chick at my school

Def not my A-game, but I think I got the job done. It's crazy how my limited belief system is trying to tell me that I can't have this girl, because ive established myself as a pussy once before. damn nonsense

With my fat brother was pretty irrelevant. A lot of "game" in general is not what you do but rather what you don't do. 

Edit: Did you send your last text rapid fire? I feel like it was unnecessary. The I'll send you home text was more polarizing and would have warranted a better response IMO. Other than that, MUCH BETTER conversation than the blowjob one lol

yeah It was just rapid fire, me bein a goof kinda thing. I think I alway struggle with ending my convo's in a smooth manner lol. I really did have to go and get some shit done!

are u suggesting that I use the "ill send you home" text last, and then just not respond to her next reply?

No I'm saying that the MW text should have been the last one you sent. It would have altered her response. 

Just ageneral rule of thumb, when you're searching for things to say, don't text back at all. Give it some time and come back to it later. You lose no points for not responding. However, you can fuck it up by texting too much. Rapid fire texting works when the conversation is ramping up and you know which buttons to push.

The only exception to my rule of thumb above is when you're sexting. You wanna keep ramping it up since she is so invested.

yeah  that makes a lot of sense. I didnt realize that at first. Thanks brotha!

This is a pretty clear example of overgaming lol. Running crazy text game on high schoolers is like taking a bazooka to a hummingbird. She tripped you at high school, this girl is already done. You just need to be cool and casual and invite her out with a set plan. You didn't even get a meetup here 

Lol at high school texts though. Girls are getting very good at this because guys are coming onto them from an increasingly younger age. 

I dunno man, I know guys in the community are VERY fond of talking shit on girls saying how dumb they are, yada yada, etc., but from my experience they are HILARIOUS. Once you break through and just start talking shit with girls, especially when you get two or more together, they get so funny it's almost frightening. The shit they talk about... 

Community group think: "They're all dumb whores until they fuck ME."

Wow, I didn't realize that, thanks. it's difficult because I used to undergame the fuck outta everything, and it was really tough for girls to actually understand that I was into them. So yeah I gotta find my happy medium.

What do you suggest I do from here? maybe i'll invite her out with a group

I'd rather overgame a girl like this any day than hide in a corner and ask her how her fuckin day went

Under gaming is just having a friendly conversation lol

No just invite her over tell her to bring an apron. Say you're going to cook something 

UPDATE: I think I got this shit back on track

Chick approached me and my buddy at the gym today, everything went well..then i started texting her

Me: I hope you didn't die on your way home..      <--- it was snowing out

Her: I made it home safe (fist bump emoji)

Me: Fantastic, you proved the whole women's drivers no surviviors thing wrong

Her: hahaha damn right I did

Me: It was probably cuz I wished you good luck :)

Me: Do you watch Hemlock Grove. It is the most fucked up show I've seen in a while

Her: no I have never seen that show.. what's it about?

Me: Its about vampire like people and wolverines.. it's like twilight but not gay

Her: haha oh those shows freak me out

Me: Your such a baby.. how can you be afraid of a tv show

Her: idkkk it makes me nervous

Me: oh. talking to girls makes me nervous

Her: So did you get nervous when I came over to talk to you guys at the gym?

Me: Yeah. jizzed my pants

Her: ohh so funny

Me: How could I not? U were looking almost twice as good as nate

Me: (kissy face emoji)

Her: hahaha I was pretty upset that you didn't come say hi to me..

Me: I was upset that you didn't respond to my text message. very upset       <--- she stopped texting me outta nowhere last night

Her: I forgot (embarrased monkey emoji)

Me: God damn you {name} :p

Her: Im sorrry :p

Me: hmm not nice at all. Lets hangout this weekend

Her: okaayy letsss

Me: We will go on an adventure and get into gang fights. it'll be fun

Her: hahahaha okay that sounds like fun

Me: Sweet. will you come out of your cave mid day saturday?

Her: haha I hate youu..yes I will!

Me: Okay cool fag :) I'll text ya bout it later

Her: Soundss goood :)

I think imma text her friday

That was bawws Meow... good shit.

This was absolutely masterful.

ME: oh.talking to girls makes me nervous

Is this text only good because you were obviously not nervous when she approached you at the gym?

ME: I was upset when you didnt respond to my txt message. very upset.

Is this only fine and doesnt count as sooking because its very obvious that you really dont give a fuck?

Exactly. I was somewhat aloof with her at the gym, so it was clear that I was poking fun at her

I wasn't too sure with this. I think the way I phrased it was obvious that I was being sarcastic, also I plowed through her shit test

Reengagement for the date went well, and it's on for today. This chick is a super hottie, so imma have to be ruthless with everything I do. I possess the skills, no worries.

Just get your dick in her mouth the rest will sort itself out.

Somehow this chick managed to flake on me

friday:

Me: I'll pick you up around 2 tomorrow in my spaceship

Her: What are we doing?

Me: I gotta plan..

Her: Whats your plan?

Me: Its top secret and probably involves ice cream..depends on the weather and how im feelin

Me: does that sound up to your standard :)

Her: Yess that sounds good!

Me: Okay. ill text ya tomorrow when im leaving or if im runnin late. I dont know which house is yours so your gonna have to help me out :)

Her: Okaay its easy my house is the second to last house on th right its gray!

Saturday:

Me: I'm running a lil late but ill get over by 2:15. ill text when im nearby

Her: Im coming back from soccer and the highway is like shut down could we do this next weekend because I most likely don't have soccer?

Me: hmm what time do you think you'll be home today?

Her: umm maybe towards 3 cause normally takes is an hour and half but there is traffic haha :( (gun emoji)

Me: lol just text me when your ready to do somethin. I don't have anywhere to be till later anyways   <-------- not the best text, misleading as well

Her: will dooo

Me: your home?     <----- this is at like 3:45 after recieving no text

Her: My brother has his senior night for hockey tonight and i have to go so i dont think I can! sorry!! :(

Me: Okay. looks like im goin to the gym then, girls suck anyways :)

Me: YOUR buying ME icecream next weekend lol

Her: Deaaal!

Yes, this kinda sucked, and yes my state absolutely crashed after but It was important lesson. I quickly set somethin else up with another girl, we went to a party, and she blew me in the bathroom. Actually this was some fuckin excellent game because it was really tough to get back into a good mindset. Best part of the night is when the chick says, " You won't just whip your dick out"... LOL GOOD ONE. Whipped my dick out and slapped her in the face with it for being so mean. We woulda fucked too, but she was on her period :(

Fuck so that's what text game looks like! 

I'd be lying if I wasnt getting a little turned on reading that. Just by the sheer skill level. 

Definitely taking notes on this! 

PS. I noticed you say shit like fag and faggot. Where I am from that is like extremely distatsteful. Is there a method to the maddness or is it different where you're from. 

No Patrick that's what I've been saying to you. You're too whitewashed and "nice".

No it's definitely not acceptable where I'm from.. but It's reallly not as harsh as it seems. It is the same thing as calling her "loser". I use those kinds of words because it show's that I can lower the bar and that I don't feel forced to stay all clean and reputable because that's what every other guy is doing. This goes along with MW's "douchebag" article, seems like girls really respond to a guy that playfully trash talks but is really working towards something sweet like bringing her out on a date.

It all might seem very playerish and scummy but I am the farthest from that.

any idea how I should reengage?

Fuck you're right. Going to step up the edginess and be more politically uncorrect and polarizing.  

^^It's funny because your screenname is Patrick Bateman. How many hookers are in your trunk right now?

Dick pic

so yeah I just set up ANOTHER date with this chick for the weekend. Didn't even mention i'm single again, she just agreed to go out.

I was thnkin about saying "Try to be nice saturday, I just broke up with my girlfriend and i'm extremely weak and vulnerable at the moment".... but things were going so smoothly it wasn't needed

I would advise you not to say that 

Meow are you fucking serious of all the pussy ass shit you would say that. 

woah i meant that in the most sarcastic way possible, i'm not weak,a and she knows that lol

but okay wont say it

No dude. Remember how you already fucked it up the first time you brought up your girlfriend in this convo. She has NO idea how you mean it, she's only going to go off what she knows. What she knows is that you acted hella fucking weird the last time the gf thing got brought up LOL 

It's best not to leave the guesswork up to her, and instead just display your true thoughts in these kind of situations. Ie none of this 'weak and vunerable' shit  

I'm glad you recognized that was unnecessary. You definitely don't wanna create objections or doubts in her mind by doing stuff like that.

alright I get this now. thanks boys

Ok I went out with her, and things didn't go as planned, but I'd like to write about it because some pretty odd things happened.

To start, there wasn't a moment of awkwardness and my game was defintely on point from the second I picked her up. On the way to get ice cream, we somehow got into a conversation about prom. This was my first mistake because my ex-girlfriend got mentioned and I explain that we broke up but i'm bringing her to prom still. She preceded to talk about how she cried one year because some dude "tryed to hook up with her". Wether she was doing this conciously or not, it was meant to discourage me. However, this was no big deal to me, so I just plowed through it and moved on. Once we got to the ice cream shop, she said she was paying for me because I drove us two there. To me, this appeared to be some tactic of establishing a "Friend" dynamic. Fuck it though, I let her pay. We sat in my car and ate our ice cream, everything was going smoothly. On our way home I told her that I could chill for a bit longer, and that we will go hang at my place. She has no issue, and we end up in my basement and I throw on some netflix.

Nothing was super physical when we first got to my house, but everything was okay. Somehow we start talking about lip gloss, I tell her I'm secretly wearing lip gloss and that she needs to taste it. I lean in and kiss her, she starts to kiss me and then stops. She then says "I feel bad aren't you kinda still with {ex-girll}". She thinks this because like I said to her earlier i'm still goin to prom with my ex-girl. Anways, I look into her eyes and say "worry about this right now, nothing else" and kiss her again. Yet again, same old bullshit, she claims that she "doesn't think its right". At this point its clear that this isn't token resistance, because I tried to kiss her maybe 3-4 times. I'm not gonna argue with her though, logical won't work, I told her in a playful tone "I'm not gonna argue with you, i'm super dissapointed, and your gay". I then playfully tell her to move to the other side of the couch, and isolate myself and watch tv for a few minutes without talking to her. This has worked for me before, and the chick ended up blowing me minutes later. I move back towards her, and kiss her again. Yet again nothing from her! She's not getting angry or physically moving, but she's just not engaging in the kiss. She keeps on saying that she can't kiss me, and I tell her that I know she wants to, and she did no deny that. I'm dissapointed but my attitude isn't phased. Therefore things stayed super relaxed, she practically rejected me but everything is still cool. I try to switch things up, and I talk about her belly button ring and start feelin her body and her boobs. She is cool with it, but still denies my kisses. I put my hand on her thighs and push  my elbow into her vagina, yet again she's cool with it but nothing is really "heating up". I touch her vagina over her jeans and she giggles and squirms away. A few minutes later I put her hand on my cock over my jeans, and she giggles and pulls away a few times. It was very clear that I was comfortable with anything sexual and that the interaction was comfortable. Things just weren't heating up, so we chilled some more laughed and still had a good time. i drove her home and told her to kiss me, she still does comply. Its whatever, i giave her a fist bump, thanked her for the ice cream, and she told me she's gonna bake me cookies soon.

This has never happended to me before, but I think i handled it the best I could. It was clear to her that i'm a chill and fun guy, that is completely comfortable with anything sexual. I'm very sure that she will be down to chill again.

Sparknotes: She refuses to kiss me time after time because she thinks i'm still with my ex girlfriend. Im still super sexual and things are comfortable and fun, but things just don't heat up. My esclation was shameless and she understands that. i would be surpised if she didn't wanna chill again.

you have the same problem i had. look at my lmr tinder beb thread. its clear why you didnt lay her then. its not lost obviously you just gotta play again. maybe read my thread and then see if you can picture this going down in your head more favourably.

yes, very similar situations my friend. Thank you I just read your post and it was helpful

I just realized that I was a bit too playful with the whole "get away from me your gay" thing.  So I did need to set up some better push and pull. Shit. I normally lack playfulness and overcompensated I guess

I just realized that I was a bit too playful with the whole "get away from me your gay" thing.  So I did need to set up some better push and pull. Shit. I normally lack playfulness and overcompensated I guess

you read this one? http://manwhore.org/forum/content/more-lmr-same-tinder-beb

and i misread that the first time. i thought you did that and she started blowing you lol. didnt see you were referring to another encounter.

id wait for someone more experienced to chime in but i still think its the same problem i had with that girl. think deeper. it wasnt your playfulness that is the issue but rather you didnt pass the test she gave you

i am double posting all over this bitch today

OmG you're so gay. I tell everyone over and over again not to do what you did and you did it repeatedly. And yeah you didn't handle a single turd as far as shit tests go

Here's more for you Meow:

http://manwhore.org/forum/content/tinder-party-girl#comment-78421

yeah okay i was on track, meow its the shit test she gave you.

mw.. what dafaq does that comment have to do with this. just the overall humph of how it went down or what

or hahah it relates just cause i applied your advice hahah

Yeah both. It's a mirror situation. I don't expect Meow to understand 'cuz he's 17, but he got flamboozled. Derp 

High value girls will act almost masculine when it comes time to sex. You have to force them out of it. 

http://manwhore.org/howtodatea10/

welll fuck me boys! guess I fucked up lil bit.

This was very new to me. I'm glad I at least kept my cool

yo meow, that is sick being where your at here with us at your age. im jelly

and mw that makes a lot of sense. that post i just made in the thread about  "lmr tinder beb" would help here too. that chick is really masculine in her world. from the rich part of town, runs the show over some employees, etc. i was banging my head against the wall cause she was in charge until i stopped caring, flipped the switch and set me as the prize and was an asshole.

this is good stuff happening here