Hey! Ask me your text game questions, and post up your convos.. I'm HERE TO HELP!

ME: Sounds good, ive got wine at home. Come meet me out the front of beergarden now.

You should have just said..'Come meet me out front of beergarden now.'  And left out the begining part.

This is one of those situations that happens to everybody and always sucks balls.

A girl goes from totally being down to hang out, wants to hang out now, and calls you baby.. then goes cold. 

You want to blame her, blame women, get pissed off, you can't. This is just one more area where guys have to take responsibility. Text Game FTW

That text right after she invites herself over to your place was just so not sexy mang. Shorten it, make it more succinct, don't be so long-winded. You kinda qualified yourself with the wine thing and it was a bit "nerdy", e.g. sexually inexperienced. 

Yeah Im kicking myself over that txt now that I think about it. Not gangster at all....

She hasnt replied to my re-engagement txt today. Would you go for a double txt? 

Her: "I'm at our hotel"

Call her.

I hope you called her. 

I dont have a phone plan so i had only had text credit....she wasnt responding to my txts the next couple of days so i just let her go. 

How do I get girls to like me?

become a real doctor.

Lol yeah I thought it was funny but I suppose yes it doesn't warrant enough of a response, OR, more likely she just didn't know how to respond haha. 

What was the convo like? Did you guys have a flirty time? What was the man to woman dynamic like. Did you seed a meetup when you were talking to her and/or got the number? 

I would just hit her up with some nonsense, banter a bit then invite her out.

Yeah it was flirty but it was more of a physical vibe than talking, so theres not a huge amount of callback reference other than the jealousy plotline. I went in direct so the man to woman was there, and in the physical vibe, but softened by the fact we were using one another to make someone else jealous.

I'd hit her up with something like "Hey, I may be in need of your services again. What kind of stunt driver are you?" 

Then go with some kind of, "There's a shipment of twinkies coming in on a truck", etc. 

So i added this HB9 through fb, then she sent me a message saying do i know you, anyways i handled it and she just stop replying couple days later, we spoke in french since we live in Montreal but ill try to translate it and make it as accurate as possible

Her: Do i know you :)

Me: Not really facebook just put you under the do i know you section lol, wow you were awake during at 6am during a saturday??

Her: oh ok ahahaha well i fell asleep right after

Me: wow xD what did you do to stay awake so long??

her: i was with friends till like 4h and after that i just fell asleep haha

me: Yeah me and my friends went to rob a hello kitty store at 4am too

her: wow why

Me: cause hello kitty is just so cute, do you have any house pets?

Her: wow wtff thats weird, and yeah why ahah

me: lol i was kidding xD You really thought id rob a doll store

her: yo i dont really know you so i thought you were serious ahah

me:  because most people i know who have house pets are usually very kind like you haha

her: aahh sweet hahah, yeah i got a dog :)

me: i always wanted a dog as a kid but my mom was scared of them so i bought a cat but he died last year :( what school you go to?

her: awwww :(, i go to x ahah you?

me: dont worry know i dont have to always clean everywhere, i go to x school, heard of it? i have many friends at your school though

her: oh yeah who?

Me: *names friends* you might know them, hey wanna play 21 questions?

her: Yeah i know them, and whats that?

me: I ask you a question then you ask me one, it serves to get to know someone better and i find you pretty interesting :) haha

-her: alright im down

Me:  21- what job do you want to do in the future?

her: rights

me- what do you mean xD

her: like a lawyer

me: Wow youll be making a lot of money ;) your turn (asks me same question)

me: i want to become like a movie producer or actor, i always had a thing for films

her- thats sick :)

me- 20 - whats your ideal guy?

her- someone i love haha

me- wow so much details xD

her- i knoww (asks me same question)

me - someone thats funny, has respect and honour and doesnt take things to seriously :p

*anyways the game continue for a short while till i ask her her hobbies then she asks mine then i say dancing and i send her a video of me doing a hip hop dance at my dancing school*

me- btw send me your tumblr! *she said she had one*

then she didnt reply but saw the msg, im pretty sure it wasnt because of my dancing skills lol, i didnt talk to her till the next day, though it lasted very shortly.

ONE DAY LATER me: I wanted to visit you today but the guard said the zoo was closed :(

her: ahah (not the reaction i expected)

me: We should finish 21 questions, i got a really interesting one

her- hurry up cause im working on this huuge project for tmr ( i knew what she was talking about my friends there had it too)

me- 16- if you could change one thing about yourself what would it be?

her: Nothing, not physically or mentally, i love myself the way i am

me: alriiight nothing better than a girl with lots of confidence :)

her: id really like to continue to talk to you but i rlly gotta finish this project so ill talk to you at a later time

me: alright i had to go anyways soon, good night, hope you wont get nightmares ;)

her: awww ur cute u thing id really go to sleep? not with this long ass project

me: youre so fucking lazy why did u start it so late xD any i gtg, tell me if it goes well

her: yoo i started like 40h ago this project is just long as hell! and ok :)

well she never told me how it went so the next day i sent her this msg

ONE DAY LATER me:  Did you finally make it in time?

her: yeah but i didnt sleep

me: wow i noticed u have some very unique qualities!

her: wow :) like what?

me: I admire how u are organized and can handle yourself well under stress, all the other girls that i talk too would have crumbled (a technique i got from jeffy and alex)

her: thats nice :) yeaah thats so me! i always do that aahah i also get good grades

me: well now i know ur very smart too ;) ask me a good question now

her: ahahahaha well i rlly like working i guess *doesnt ask question so i ask one instead*

me: alright i got a good one, 16- most embarassing  moment of ur life?

now its been nearly 2 days and she hasnt responded, how should i proceed? btw sorry for the long ass post just wanted u guys to get the full scoop, also how can i add more value to my txt's? remember this is a popular girl so she has lots of options and shes considered a diva.

Holmes this is one of the weirdest convos I've read in awhile. When it comes to game you're somewhere else. Another school of thought. Good luck 

Hahaha MW your reply had me cracking up. Another school of thought lmao

Dude your 'game' reminds me a little of how I talked to this girl I liked when I was 16 - we had some interesting conversations like this but she ended up dating my best mate lol (and still is).

What I'm saying is it's not authentic. You're saying 'I like a girl with lots of confidence' because you think she'll respond well to that, when in reality you don't give a shit. I used to do all these question games, but you're literally like a shiny cartoon penguin on her computer screen she's probably already bored of. You need to drop this whole paradigm completely.

Start by expressing yourself more, the retarded "question game" structure you're imposing on the interaction is simply a safety net so that you don't have to lead the conversation properly

me: Hey, I may be in need of your services again. What kind of stunt driver are you?

her: Haha umm I'm not sure...I can drive a stick! Lol

me: Good, there's a shipment of twinkies coming in on a truck later.. I'll distract them while you pull up in the getaway car

I'm sure you'll get a response. But here and there you want to relate things back down to earth, and when she gives you "content", you fucking take it and run with it. Her "I can drive a stick! Lol" text was LOADED with all kinds of innuendos you could have taken off with 

She didn't respond, so I responded

me: Yo, where were u Ms. badass?

and right after

me: ...Guess you're just a normal girl

I was thinking i would ping her with that and she would respond with something qualifying, but looking back it was probly too weak. Should have gone with my classic "I guess you cant handle a 21 yr old boy. U saw me sipping that beer and peed yourself"

No man, that's pouting you can't do that stuff. That's the sort of thing girls SCREEN for when they stop replying to a guy.. to see if he responds like that. 

This is a girl i breifly met at a bar 1 month ago. I had tried to organise a day 2 with her but she flaked on the day. Its been about 2 weeks since she flaked so i decided to re engage...It didnt go well lol

I have my own thoughts on what happened here but would love some analysis on this convo. The txts where getting pretty rapid fire towards the end which I think may have hurt me. I should have took my time more as i think i needed to be real in some texts rather than funny/stupid.  Also I have no idea why she was being so rude and aggressive in some texts? Maybe its just her personality?

ME: Hey beb, did santa bring you all the presents you wanted this year or did he put you on his naughty list?

HER: I asked him to give all my gifts to people who actually needed them.

ME: Wow, that hair straightener and sportsgirl gift voucher is certainly going to make some starving childs day :P

HER: Haha they can sell them and buy food

HER: I didnt really get anything for christmas...just some body lotion perfume and jewellery...pretty pointless stuff really.

HER: Did you get spoilt?

ME: Nah, santa stopped spoiling me once I turned to the dark side. He did pay my phone bill tho so props to him for that!

HER: Haha oh the modern christmas spirit is magical isnt it

ME: Say goodbye to knitted socks and sweaters. Id actually kill for a pair of good socks tbh

HER: haha i went to a girls house last night and she was returning like 3 gifts..Who the fuck complains when someone gives them a gift?

HER: She made me hate christmas lol

ME: Yeah i have a few like that in my family. I just give them a card with money every year. Its the safest play lol

HER: So trickassmark

HER: I dont really know who you are...

HER: Age/name/occupation

ME: 24/trickassmark/online poker(She didnt reply, maybe she thought I was lying about my profession?)

ME: And you?

HER: 23/********/life coach (Ive seen her FB & she lied about everything here. I think she thinks im fos about playing poker hence "life coach")

ME: Thats perfect, can i get a discount on my first life coaching session? I need advice on how to become even more awesome.

HER: Your ego needs attention

HER: Ok you can have a session for just $50

HER: But im all booked out for at least a week

ME: Thats all good we can just do an after hours session.

HER: Haha

ME: Your office or mine?

HER: Are you smart?

HER: Clearly not

HER: No

ME: I have been called a special boy me entire life so im clearly quite intelligent

HER: haha

HER: Ok well i'm a very busy person and im quite selective with the types of people I associate with

HER: What have you got going for you brody?

HER: Other than dashing good looks?

ME: I have rugged chest hair that would make a wild grizzly bear jealous.( Is this text bad?Its kind of about looks despite her saying "other than looks")(I dont see how i can be real with her when she tries to force me to qualify myself so i think i have to be funny/smartass)

HER: ...

ME: Im also selective about who i hang out with. You could be a crazy person for all I know. What more do you have to offer? Can you make sandwhiches?

HER: You are about to be blocked

HER: Sorry mate

ME: I like how assertive you are!

So im pretty sure shes blocked me but i tried one last angle with her before i give up

30minutes later

ME: Ok ill quit it with the funny/stupid texts lol. Im originally from ******* and lived there all my life. I moved here 6 months ago and am loving it up here. Its definitely a nice change!

Yore falling into a trap a lot of guys make, which is qualifying yourself too much via text. She would ask a question, you would answer logically. Banter was decent but you needed to be WAY more aloof and drop some innuendos or sexual stuff throughout.

This was the worst text you sent out by far. It's like you subconsciously caught on that you were qualifying yourself so you start trying to qualify her way too much. The first sentence is copying exactly what she said, and the next three are trying to qualify. One would have been fine but so you expect her to answer two or three in succession? Is this making sense  

Interesting, i thought i avoided qualifying myself for the most part. Saying i have rugged chest hair counts as qualifying? I thought that would be taken in a lighthearted sense. 

lol holy shit yah, thats big time overkill now that you point it out. 

I Knew what I was trying to do but i didnt pull it off. I realised she was trying to make me qualify myself so i felt like i needed to flip the frame and make her qualify herself to me. She had taken on the buyer role and i wanted it back.

Wow, you don't see these that often. Female ego to the max 

You made this happen in a very straight-forward yet bizarre way. You entered the "customer frame". Much like the friend zone, but this one you usually see only with strippers and hookers. Not life coaches haha! 

You also inadvertently made it a competition. You never want to engage a girl at her point of "ego". You asked her if you could get a discount on your first life coach lesson, ended it pretty decently with the "more awesome" line, then fucked it up with the after hours remark haha. It became a matter of girl code for her. I'm not making this shit up I can literally see where this girl's mental track was going with all of this. 

What you have to do now is just straight appease her, without handing her your balls. That is if you're not already blocked lol 

Oh shit I just saw the sandwich line. A bit miscalibrated kemosabe. 

You can see how from the beginning she's in some kind of try-hard self-righteous girlie phase.. trying to be a life coach and concerned about people in need. Which is great 'n all if she sticks with it. But probably not. Anyways I'd be like.. "Actually that's really cool you're into helping others. I volunteer a couple times a month and refuse to eat any animal that's ever starred in a disney movie. You should really watch the documentary "blackfish" " 

Yeah man, i was totally thrown off by her attitude, Ive never experienced that before. She had me sweating a little bit lol

So youre saying i slipped into the customer frame when i asked her if i could get a discount on my session. By saying that she now feels superior to me and has started asking me to qualify myself because shes a busy woman and is choosy with her friends. 

 

Also, do you think my after hours remark triggered asd? Is that what you meant when you said "It became a matter of girl code for her" 

Yeah those are some pretty decent breakdowns on what went down. But don't take it too seriously they're can't stop you if you don't follow along ;) 

Think about it this way. A girl is texting 10 guys who all want her. Each guy has a different text style. She asks them all the same qualifying question. I would venture that 8/10 guys will answer logically and qualify themselves. Think about the 2 guys who inject humor, sexuality, and even might DISQUALIFY themselves (on purpose, in a self deprecating fashion). What's the difference in mindset here? Who do you think the girl responds to more often? 

Im im not saying be a clown but don't be a text robot either.

17yr old I breifly met last night

What should i do when she doesnt reply to my last text? How long should i wait to double text her or should i just re engage the next day? She was replying to the rest within 5 mintes and its been 40mins now. I was trying not to ask too many quetions

ME: Hey beb, did you end up fidnding a house party to crash last night?

HER: Whos this?

ME: Its ricky martins backup dancer, youre audition is tomorrow at 10am lol. jk its trickassmark, I met you early last night.

HER:  Oh right sorry i have so many unknown numbers in my inbox I forget whos who heh. That gave me such a fright I was like omg what audition I have an imposter hahahah. Well sarah and I had tampered with our IDs and tried to change the 1996 to a 5 and I got in with it but she didnt :( so we ended up leaving with some friends. How was your night?

ME:  You got in? Damn girl youve got some street smarts. If I was in prison id want you as my celly. Youd dig us outta there in no time. What club let you in?

Her:  Hell yeah baby! I also managed to buy us alcs and they didnt check for ID heh. I cant remember by this time i was pretty shitfaced. Ima try it again with some legit 18yr olds

ME: Just dont try it at club x because they use a scanner to try and bust ur ass!

That last text didn't warrant a response

Thought i could get away with it because the last 2 texts were charismatic. But yeh it may have been a little too flat. Anyway I'm going to re engage today with " I just saw you on tv!" lol

No mang that's too much of a "chasing for a reaction" type of text. You want to display some value while also goading her to respond. Overall you want to subtly be shifting the focus from her to you, or at least back and forth. As of now you're just chasing her. You're not the prize here. 

What will you do once she responds to the t.v. text? What's the plan here. After a certain amount of texts you'll just invite her out?

I'm trying to fix your understanding here because otherwise if I just keep feeding you texts to send her it's not actually going to fix anything. 

Yeah i see what youre saying. Ill post the tv text convo underneath. 

Next day

ME: I just saw you on tv

HER: Wat

ME: Animal planet

HER: :0 u slut

ME: hehe what have you been up to today beb?

HER: Loungin about, you?

ME: Just been workin. About to make a green smoothie. Im going to be bouncin off the walls after i drink that shit, you might need to come and sedate me!

HER: Where you work? I love green smoothies mmmm heh maybe! Where abouts do you even stay?

ME: I live in the ******* and i work from home. That smoothie was delicious. you should come watch a movie and eat some icecream with me today!

HER: Ahh that is a pretty legit place to stay! Haha i can imagine Ooo tempting tempting I hardly know you tho, how do i know youre not a secret murderer or rapist? ;)

ME: Just bring some mace spray and a taser gun, that should give you a pretty solid advantage.

HER: Hahaha aw man how old are you? I was thinking of going to a theme park with my friend you met in ******* because shes going home soon. If we flag that idea ill come see ya

ME: Im 24. Think im going to have a power nap for 20mins. Lemme know when you ditch the theme park and ill shoot you some directions :P

Obv she never got back to me lol

Ok you ignored/blasted past a very obvious sign from her. You had a solid line with her coming to sedate you then when she expressed interest what.the.fuck.were.you.thinking after that? You switched it up again and then boom she had to regress back to qualifying you. You didn't even believe in your own game enough to take her seriously when she expressed interest

Yeah I definitely seen that she was interested in coming over. In my mind I needed to actually make a plan now. Could you give me an example of how i could phrase the meet up better after she gives the hint? I get it now that I NEED to stick with the sedate me theme but I just dont have a solid idea of how I would do it. 

Sure I'd be like, "ok but you better bring something strong! Cuz I'm practically a lion after a smoothie. Rawr. When are you coming!"

Thanks, I WILL NOT fuck that up next time.

Same girl, I re engaged today HOLY SHIT 

ME: Hello kitty

8hrs later

HER: My stupid messages arent sending it keeps saying not delivered!!! Are you not telstra?

HER: La la la

HER: Stupid messages wont send

HER: FUCKING SEND

HER:  OMG they sent!!!! Hi sorry I havnt been ignoring you my texts arent sending

Same girl from above. Re-engaged today. Dont really know what to do from here? Shes kinda ducking the meetup but isnt blatantly rejecting it either. I feel like im in a situation where Im forced to put the ball in her court and say something along the lines of "lemme know when you know what ur doing"

ME: Whats up pumpkinbutt. Was your weekend as crazy as mine?

HER: Did you just call me pumpkinbutt ya slut! ha everyday seems like the weekend cause im on hols but probably not cause i didnt go to beach fest :( how was it?!?

ME: Yah it was fucking awesome. Theres so much sand in my house tho. Im suprised theres not crabs and mermaids running around fucking shit up. What are you up to 2morro?

HER: Hahahahahahahahhah "mermaids" theyre such sketchy bitches these days, hard to tame them. Not much exepct i get around places cause i dont have a car yet :/

ME: Well you should get yer butt into beach city tomorrow for a swim. We can try to spot some mermaids aswell if its not too dangerous.

HER: Did ya know since ive been living here i havnt been to the beach haha. What if im a mermaid? Shh

ME:  Well shit beb, looks like im taking you for your first beach city swim. What time can you get here? Oh and dont be a mermaid or ill be mad!

HER: Haha not really a beach person lolol. Not sure yet cause i might be going car shopping heh. Oh is that so?

So why don't you just go pick her up? You don't drive?

I dunno man, she lives 30minutes out of town. Shes trying to get her parents car as we speak. If she cant get it I will probably do the damn drive. 

Driving thirty minutes and blasting some tunes to go meet with a hot chick. I can think of worse ways to spend my time. 

If my car had the ability to blast tunes I would be a little more excited about the idea haha. But yeh either way I need to stop being such a lazy bastard. Sometimes you can forget how good the pussy actualy is and what its worth.

EDIT: Its probably more the fact that I may go to all the trouble and still not get the pussy. Thats definitely it and I know thats a suckers attitude.

So you've got the balls to ask me to use my world class skill set, developed after years of training/practice.. and you can't even drive to go get this girl.

I will pick her up If i need to. The idea never actually crossed my mind until you brought it up. 

Ok so heres my text convo with her today where i push for a meetup and even offer to PICK HER UP ha. She does something HILARIOUS at the end and warns me about her bad phone service right before quits texting me. Pretty easy way out for her.

ME: Hey beb im going to have to cancel the mermaid watching today, got some friends over. Did you end up getting some wheels?

HER: Hahaha thats ok i went for a beach swim this morning heh. Im seeing an art gallery soon anyway. No ;(

ME: Have fun at the art gallery. Dont get stuck looking at too many nudes!

HER: Are you kidding? 0.o

ME: Yah ofcourse im joking. Youre allowed to look at all the nudes you want :P

HER: Hahaha woo! Seems a lot more wild than the galleries in nz lol

ME: Oh shit, it might be a bit too much for your innocent eyes then.

HER: Did u just call me innocent u slut

HER: Just cause ur old ;)

ME: Old and wise...and wrinkly

HER: Just what evry girl loves in a guy

ME: Haha yerp. What are you doing this arvo? Come watch a movie with me!

HER: THE GALLERY CURATOR THOUGHT MY DAD AND I WERE A MARRIED COUPLE

HER: Hmm what movie?

ME: lol your dads a pimp. The movie is totally a suprise. What time can you get here?

HER: Im mentally scarred. Depends if i get the car or not!

ME: Well im busy for then next 45min so ill hit you up then and see how stealing the car is working out! Where do you live anyway?

HER: Sweet, I can try that! I live in ******

1hour later

ME: Hows the gta goin beb? Have you stolen it yet?

HER: hahaahhah no ;( dads gone out, wahh buy me a car heh

ME: Want me to come grab you?

HER: All the way to my place?? Dont be silly thats such a burden, ill try organise something.

​HER: P.s if my texts are late its because this stupid network is glitching

ME: how far out is ur place? you can by the icecream so were even

Did i fuck up somewhere or is this chick just not ready to hang out with me? Should I cool off this girl for a couple of days? 

Definitely could have been smoother when I asked her to come watch a movie with me. I think the timing was good but the text lacked excitement and didnt seem natural.

Alright Guys. I always use the following as my opener.

Me: You are touble

Girl. Lol How?/ Why do you think that? (something along these lines)

Me: I tell them something like their eyes make it pretty clear.

It is what we call a blame game with a lighter side to it.

I pretty much opene 97% of the time but it fades pretty quickly. I borrowed it from this other guy I used to know and he'd opened and closed successfully on a consistent basis using this.

My Plan: Open>Comfort>Number>Meet

Of course, it has only worked once but it failed terribly because I was clueless as to what to do on a date. I am still a noob. Haha

My question is where do I take the conversation from there so I can get them chasing before we number close as it'd reduce the chances of them flaking.

This morning:

Me: Same opener and follow up and She goes "You will not find out unless you meet me ;)" Is this a shit test cuz we've literally only exchanged two messages. Where do I take this conversation to get her number and eventually a date?

Thanks!

Hey holmes you're already there. SHE mentioned the meetup lol.

What do you want to do with this chick? Take her to a bar? What's your plan for dates

I post was not entirely correct. I don't know what I was thinking. Anyway, here's what happened

Me: Oh boy...you seem like trouble

She: Lol how :(

She: Oops I meant :)

Me: There's a flint in your eyes :p I knew as soon as I looked at them haha

She: Well you won't know unless you get to know me ;)

Me: Before that I wanna get to know one thing: Is it safe outside? I need to walk my dog!

She: I'm pretty sure y?

Me: Well I'm only gonna step out if you're stayin in :p haha

She: Lol

Me: Oh so you are out and about. Backyard it is for Spongy and I then ;)

She: I was now it's safe lol (8 hours later this morning)

I was taking my time last night to reply but she was replying pretty quickly. As I said that's how I usually open chicks online and most convos will lead here^^ Where can I take this from here? I do wanna get serious and jump out of this joker mode but when I have tried it in the past, most conversations went dull.

I usually follow up with:

Me: What brings you here? (like what made you make an account here)

She: Boredom/looking to meet new people/friends made me do it etc etc

...and the convo never reallt takes off after this point

What's my sticking point and any help will be appreciated!

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